As just one more proof that Birthers have no respect for the Constitution or the American government, a birther screaming birther nonsense from the House gallery interrupted the reading of the US Constitution today.
Republicans in the House insisted that the Constitution be read line by line before the House began its business. Even though I think this public reading is largely a publicity stunt, still the Constitution deserves respect.
According to the Los Angeles Times
As the reading of the amended version went on for several hours, there was at least one outburst from the gallery as a person interrupted to say Obama wasn’t born in the United States, hence was constitutionally barred from being president. No effort, including the release of his birth certificate, by President Obama has dispelled the false rumors of his birth that continue to have traction with the so-called birther movement.
The birther is elsewhere reported to have screamed as the Presidential eligibility clause was read: “Except Obama, except Obama, help us Jesus!” The actual words are not discernible in the video clip following:
An interesting Tweet from Rep. Jim Himes from the House floor after the outburst: “First interruption of the reading from the Gallery. By a birther, screaming about Obama. Unintended consequences.”
Unintended consequences indeed. Birthers are the albatross around the neck of the Republican Party.
I particularly enjoyed the description in TPMMuckraker of her as a “feral birther”….. 😎
Oh for those who are not aware the screecher was Theresa Cao, WND poster, long time White House protester, attended the Lakin court martial etc….all around nutter
Honestly, it’s just sad to someone so lost in delusion, so convinced that the personal issues they can’t work through constitute some grand commitment to principle.
I’m pleased to see that the Congress quickly and appropriately handled the disturbance, as they should.
Hey, nuts will appear places from time to time and display their lack of decorum. When that happens, procedures like what we just saw are how they should be dealt with -and business simply moves on.
I guess the same can be said about the dozens of Democrats that didn’t show up to the Constitution reading?
What about the eight years of interruptions by the traitors at Code Pink?
It was a stunt. Plus the Republicans censored the document, so I wouldn’t blame anyone who bowed out.
They were escorted out as the birther was, both when Republicans were in control and when Democrats were. What is your point?
And this, folks, is why Reagan closed down the mental institutions. The Republican party needed those voters!
Poor pathetic little lady, lost in her own delusions, really sad. What a sad way to live.
You basically described the entire birther movement….Especially nutters like BZ and Ms. Tickly….
I’m more concerned over the fact that Speaker Boehner scheduled his weekly press conference for the middle of the reading. Also, how do you know that only Democrats did not attend?
I wanted to appropriately move the discussion here instead of under the Abercrombie thread.
I thought these statements from the article, by the congressman who read the passage, bear repeating:
Yeah, Weigel just posted an update on her, at the TPM article, which mentions some of her other birther activities, inlcuding blogs & Facebook page:
I keeping with how all the dastardley Republicans are “in on it”
Boehner: The state of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there. That’s good enough for me.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/06/5778682-boehner-reacts-to-birther-outburst
Yeah, based on that link, she’s not just a nutty religious fanatic but also a Tea Party Teabagger.
Here was her quote from the 12/16/10 WND article, in which they interviewed her, as one of the Birther observers that showed up at Lakin’s trial:
Sounds like she was really, really unhappy at the results of the trial and at Lakin and his attorney.
From some of the rantings on her blog site, I’d expect we’ll be hearing a lot of “End Times” nonsense from her, moving forward. I guess she’s from DC, as she sometimes signs her posts as “TC from DC”.
She also has posted over at the P&E:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/12/25/january-1-2011-lt-col-lakin-day/
So she’s a total NWO conspiracy nut as well.
(First Post)
This event was like kicking the birther bees nest .
The comment section of the blogs reporting this story are full of the same old lies, same old song and dance and they are out in force.
No blood for foil!
And the birthers are recycling the same nonsense and digging up this article to support their contention that the President should “release” his BC….
“There is a bizarre intellectual dance taking place around the topic of Barack Obama’s birthplace.
The world has been artificially divided into “Birthers” and
“anti-Birthers” when in fact I suspect a large percentage or even
majority of the population is neither and simply wants all the evidence
released so that we can move beyond the issue. For most people, who
have had to show their own birth certificates at various points in their
lives, the notion that a presidential candidate should release his or
her birth certificate to prove qualification for office reflects neither
pro- nor anti-Obama sentiment, but a “what’s the big deal?” attitude.
It also seems that the supposed intellectual poles have been reversed.
People who supposedly are irrational and driven by hatred demand to see
the evidence. People who supposedly are rational and driven by
dispassionate intellect demand that the evidence not be seen.
Isn’t this the exact opposite of what should take place? Or have the labels been misapplied?
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/12/bizarre-birther-intellectual-dance.html
I can’t wait to see the birthers contort themselves to attempt to spin that one away.
So far it looks like they simply ignored Boehner’s statement in freeperville.
Is it really a surprise that the birthers manage to ignore inconvenient statements and facts?
On her Facebook page it says that she is interested in men and her status is single. I can’t imagine why men aren’t falling all over themselves to hook up with someone who spends her days camped out in front of the White House and her nights blathering incoherently on her blogs.
I’m giving this comment a “Like.”
Hey guys – Orly has posted the application, etc. of the person that she says actually has the SSN that President Obama currently uses. However, the way I’m seeing it – it clearly has a completely different number assigned to this person. One issued in Iowa, where the woman was from, not CT. Am I missing something here or did she just blow herself out of the water, (I mean even more than usual??)
In addition to the Connecticut Social Security number verified as belonging to President Obama, Orly Taitz has gleaned a number of other Social Security numbers from error-riddled databases belonging to people named Obama. Orly has apparently tracked one of these spurious numbers to a deceased person from Iowa.
Orly’s article is so poorly written as to make no sense.
I agree that it makes no sense. She seems to be saying that the SSN she has been posting as President Obama’s belongs to the woman whose SSN app she has posted. However, the application and subsequent document clearly show a completely different SSN that was issued from the state of Iowa. I use those databases on a regular basis and they are only a jumping off place – completely full of inaccuracies. Orly’s followers are so blind that while they are chasing birthdates, application dates, obscure numbers, (this is in the comments section), they are completely oblivious to the different SSN.
Insane birther rantings of Dr Kate regarding this issue…
“Just when the media and Congress think they’re ‘handling’ the Birther aka Constitutionalists’ factual assertion that Obama does not meet Article II qualifications, up pops a Patriot, a woman not afraid to tell the truth, and takes them all by surprise. Shouting clearly, Theresa poured out all our cries after the reading of the natural born citizen portion of Article II, saying
Except Obama! Except Obama! Help us Jesus! My Name is Theresa!
I hear her saying this and know the song; we all do–this is what we are singing. Millions of people heard this today, it was a great day for America!!!
And how perfect: Obama is the exception to natural born citizen, we all know it including Congress, it is deeply, spiritually serious, and adding her name proudly to those who have taken a stand in front of the world. That is real, that is the truth.”
And she and the insane former Cmmdr. Kerchner see some sort of conspiracy with MSNBC….
“MSNBC engages in disinformation and misinformation by factual omissions in reporting the disruption point of the reading of the U.S. Constitution in order to convey a false reading of the Constitution to be implied to their readers.
Notice in this story by MSNBC that they incorrectly report the point of interruption of the reading of the Constitution today in such a way to make it sound like the Constitution only says right after the phrase “natural born Citizen, that to be President a person only has to be a Citizen.
That is where MSNBC stopped quoting (improperly and falsely in the MSNBC story) what happened and what the House Rep was reading verbatim from the Constitution and had read and what he actuall got read and said prior to the interruption from the gallery. The Constitution says that you must be either a “natural born Citizen” or a “Citizen of the United States at the time of adoption of this Constitution”. Both those Citizenship status requirement options were read by the House Rep prior to the interruption. But that is not what NBC reported. They truncated off many words in the Constitution in their report.”
http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/inside-the-gate/#more-5118
And of course John Boehner does not escape the birther wrath….
“thinkwell
January 7, 2011 at 3:07 am
Regarding Speaker Boehner’s very disappointing lame comments on this issue:
When it comes to the Constitution’s Article II eligibility clause, if after twenty years in the House, John Boehner doesn’t know to distinguish between Citizen and natural born Citizen then he is an incompetent fool and has no business collecting a Representative’s paycheck, let alone holding the Speakership. That may be a horrible thought and sorry a commentary on the ignorance of the average politician, but if he actually does know better (which is likely, but not certain), then the implications are far worse, for then he is either a coward, a self-serving sell-out, or a tool of the global elite.
Some might say that he has no choice but to tread lightly on this issue because, as first in the line of succession if Obama and his complicit regime (Biden too) were to be unseated, then Boehner seeking the ouster of the usurper would be an unacceptable conflict of interest. I suppose if he were to give a direct, blunt response like any of us here would, he would risk being endlessly roasted by the main regime/stream media, but that is no excuse for essentially lying about the Constitution.
Speaker Boehner, you took a solemn oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. From what I’ve seen so far you are an abject failure to that oath. The voter has a right to expect better. Please do your duty or be replaced by someone who will. Fortunately for you, you still have time to correct your course. We are watching.”
And the Post and Fail gets in on this issue but to throw Boehner under the bus for agreeing that President Obama was born in the US and is eligible….I guess the birther wet dreams of Congress challenging the President are going up in flames…
“Dear Speaker Boehner,
I could not rest after seeing your NBC interview with Brian Williams tonight until I had contacted you. John, Brian asked you about Obama’s American citizenship in reference to that brave woman in the chambers who yelled out in protest against Obama while Rep. Frank Pallone read Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of our Constitution. For all your talk about our Constitution, have you really read it? Have you read the presidential eligibility section that Rep. Pallone recited today? When Brian asked you what your opinion was on Obama’s American citizenship, you lost an opportunity that millions across this country have been waiting more than two years for, and said if Hawaii officials said he was born there, that was good enough for you.
Brian Williams led you down the primrose path with his question about American citizenship, circumventing on purpose no doubt, the Constitutional requirement to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Only a natural born citizen is eligible to be a U.S. president and Obama fails that test with an African father!! You need two American citizen parents to be natural born. It just does not matter where the usurper Obama was born. He was born with allegiance to the British crown with his British/Kenyan heritage through his father!! Wrap your head around that, John, and do your job by settling this issue once and for all through congressional hearings. Obama is not eligible to be president because he does not meet the Constitutional requirement to be a natural born American citizen. Do you get it? If you do and ignore it, you don’t deserve to be Speaker of the House of Representatives. If you have not been apprised until now about the severe gravity of this issue, then you need to act on this and do it now. We have been waiting for more than two years for this issue to be adjudicated either in Congress or the courts and both have turned a deaf ear. E’ tu, John? If so, you have already lost the confidence of Americans all across this country who have been suffering deeply over this issue. I know. I marched on Washington, D.C. in 9/09, attended tea parties and conventions and have rubbed elbows with those millions in the march and all those in attendance at the tea parties and conventions. We are mad as hell because our so-called representatives are deaf, dumb, and in denial about the “Obama issue”. John, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN; HE HAD ALLEGIANCE TO GREAT BRITAIN AND NOT AMERICA WHEN HE WAS BORN! HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND IS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THESE UNITED STATES!”
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/06/will-the-new-speaker-please-speak-up/
And in the comments….
Stock says:
Thursday, January 6, 2011 at 9:45 PM
I sent an e-mail to this a–clown. This is amazing-we have to really press the other ones who may have a little backbone-to educate this wimp. This guy is more hopeless than I thought. Unreal-
It’s already happening. (A.) Boehner has a conflict of interest and (B.) He doesn’t know about the “two-citizen-parent requirement.”
And of course the Freeper spin….Some claim it was a brilliant move by Boehner because the evil MSM reporter Williams was trying to trap Boehner and he was too smart….Interesting….
Boehner: “The State Of Hawaii Has Said President Obama Was Born There. That’s Good Enough For Me”
mediaite.com ^ | Jan.6, 2011 | Mark Joyella
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:00:50 PM by Free ThinkerNY
In his first interview since being sworn in as Speaker of the House, John Boehner makes it clear he has no questions about President Obama’s birth, saying “the State of Hawaii has said President Obama was born there. That’s good enough for me.”
In the exclusive interview with NBC’s Brian Williams–set to air tonight on NBC Nightly News–Boehner does not say he’ll tell members of Congress to simply put the matter of the president’s birth aside:
WILLIAMS: I’m curious as to how much responsibility you feel specifically because of something that happened this morning. During the reading of the Constitution, Congressman Frank Pallone of New Jersey was reading a portion of the document, interrupted by someone who heckled from within the chamber. It was to express doubt over the President’s American citizenship. Provided you believe the President is an American citizen, you’ve got 12 members co-sponsoring legislation that does about the same thing, it expresses doubt. Would you be willing to say, “This is a distraction, I’ve looked at it to my satisfaction. Let’s move on.”
BOEHNER: The state of Hawaii has said that President Obama was born there. That’s good enough for me
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2652632/posts
And in the comments, the usual racial tinged commentary….
To: Starboard
. . and the media is complicit in it; they refused to vet him because they didn’t want to appear racist. You’re right, most of his past is a closed book. Pelosi didn’t bother all that much when it was her job to bother. If all he’s hiding is the facts about his socialist/communist/leftist connections, it’s enough that he shouldn’t have become President. Now, he’s set for life, and we’ll pay through the nose for the next two years. Obama’s personally collecting a lot of reparations on behalf of all we “owe” to the blacks for slavery. It’s pretty funny since he’s only half black with a lot of baggage. . but, he was elected . . so there you have it. That’ll learn us white people, dern us!
23 posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:23:24 PM by Twinkie
And the crazy BZ makes her usual appearance…
Anybody who calls Boehner needs to tell him that the HDOH has indirectly confirmed that the “vital records” Fukino referred to in her statement were amended in 2006, which means they are not legally valid.
IOW, Fukino said that she has personally seen the LEGALLY INVALID vital records verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Boehner needs to know that, because legally invalid records don’t prove anything. They have no probative value, and the State of Hawaii does not vouch for any claims on them. So Fukino CANNOT say where Obama was born. According to HRS 338-17 Obama’s BC only ever have any legal value if it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. And in that case, the evidentiary standards would have to be met to determine whether the claims were considered valid.
So – long story short – Boehner needs to know that the HDOH has admitted that what they have for Obama is legally invalid – that the “vital records” on which Fukino based her statement are legally invalid records.
By failing to clarify that when she knew people misunderstood her, she deceived Boehner and other federal officials on a matter of federal jurisdiction, which is a violation of the Federal General False Statement Act.
49 posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:49:44 PM by butterdezillion
And finally the rantings of ORYR…
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/birther-arrested-during-constitution.html
“An individual who believes President Obama wasn’t born in the United States [Did the Hill interview her? How do they know what she believes, not all ‘Birthers’ believe he was foreign born.] interrupted a House reading Thursday of the U.S. Constitution.
Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.) tweeted from the House floor that a “birther” had interrupted the Constitution reading that’s been taking place.
Himes tweeted:
First interruption of the reading from the Gallery. By a birther, screaming about Obama. Unintended consequences… ”
What I find hilarious is that ORYR still cites discredited hacks like Jay McKinnon and others as evidence that the President’s COLB is a forgery….Amazing epic fail….
Now at World Net Daily
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=248117
At The Hill, which also reported on the outburst, commenters came down solidly on the side of those “birthers,” who contend Obama, if he is eligible constitutionally, at least has yet to document it. Among the comments:
* Oh, those “birthers.” They’re just like the people, the right wing conspiracy people, that claimed Bill Clinton was unfaithful to Hillary and had a history of unwanted sexual advances on women. Or those people that claimed john Edwards had gotten an ugly blond pregnant when his wife was dying of cancer…
* I invite you to cite the location of Obama’s birth certificate for review. You won’t find it. I think you’re confused between Hawaii’s notice of birth, and an actual birth cert. The actual birth certificate is required – not what Obama provided.
* Obama is definitely a citizen. The question is: of what country?
* Instead of the label “birthers’ why not just call them “constitutionalists” or “Americans”?
* Anybody with half a brain knows that Obama is not a natural born citizen.
* IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
* I’m more interested in his mentor, communist Frank Marshall Davis, and his FBI file that details his anti-American activity as a communist. Obama was probably surveilled and written up right along with “Uncle Frank” as he was being tailed by FBI agents.
* Regardless if he was born in Hawaii … BOTH parents have to be citizens of American for a person to be president. Obama’s dad … whoever he was … was NOT an American citizen!! End of story … we have a usurper in the WH.
“* Anybody with half a brain knows that Obama is not a natural born citizen.”
….. and anybody with a full brain knows he is.
And the half that is present is not left or right, but bottom.
> and his FBI file that details his anti-American activity as a communist
Birthers are so funny. They whine for days on end about “I have seen no birth certificate”, but they take only a microsecond to firmly believe in the existence of an FBI file about Obama’s “communist activity” which they have also never seen in their life.
Logically, they could also flip that and firmly believe that there exists an “original” birth certificate but no such FBI file. That they chose the absurd option shows their strong confirmation bias again.
another post&fail comment (partial) that must be seen to believe:
LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.He took the stand and did not back down from the Fraud ! over one million FRAUD paid attorneys compared to $15.00$20.00 for a vital long form birth certificate so, tell me he isn’t a fraud ask his grandma as she said siting by Mayo his 1/2 sister that she was in the delively room and watched her grandson Barack being born in mosbasso Kenya and she named the hospital. I saw the tape ! it was pulled fast at that……1/2 sister said “Grandma stop, Grandma said “No I will not stop his roots are here..1/2 said ” Grandma please stop America will find out and Barack will be imilegalible.. Grandma said. I don’t care ,I am proud of my grandson Barack..Grandma stop……….now grandma is dead ! well so said she was sick.Maybe, really dies before her time ,huh ?
Wow…The fail is so strong in that comment…I love how the birthers will claim that they saw some tape that has “now been scrubbed” that supports their wild accusations….Not to mention they can never get any of the names straight…”Mayo”? Is that the month of May or short for a condiment for a sandwich….When one reads comments so ridiculous like this you have to wonder if such stupidity is contageous…
You are so right…FBI files…Claims by people with no evidence….Anything that is negative regarding the President is to be believed and anything positive is to be checked and rechecked until a reason to not believe it can be established…
“Begin snark tag” When are we going to require intelligence tests prior to gaining access to a computer? Remember that during the early days of automobiles & airplanes there were no licensing requirements. “End snark tag”
Not to mention that the grandmother they speak of Sarah Obama who they claim supposedly said she was there in the hospital when he was born (she didn’t) is still alive.
These comments are even more hilarious…Instead of the possibility that the state of HI is correct it is more about how to respond when faced with this actual fact….
Joe Maine says:
Friday, January 7, 2011 at 2:34 AM
Just to take a step back guys, what is your immediate response to someone who says, “The Hawai’i DOH director said on record he was born in Hawai’i” (7.29.10)???
Do you say that the statement “born in Hawaii” may possibly NOT mean born in Hawai’i? Just wondering. I think that’s would be what Boehner would ask you, in reply. Then he would say, “How would that be possible?”
Best wishes
GMScott says:
Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM
By what authority did the DOH make this declaration? What authority was given to the DOH to inspect bo’s private & sealed records? And unless I am mistaken, did not the DOH declare bo a “natural born” citizen by virtue of his “supposed” Hawaiian birth? Where do they derive the authority to make such a claim?
> I saw the tape
Well then this person must be the birthers’ Holy Grail in person as the known tape of Grandma Obama contains no such things as her naming a Kenyan hospital or someone saying “Barack will be imilegalible” (whatever that may be, “being able to legally immigrate”?).
> TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT
Don’t you just love people who are willing to follow anyone who trumpets the same horn, regardless of other qualifications? And you wonder why many of the most terrible mass murderer dictators had a strong devout followship…
If they dug up something that alleges Charles Manson demanded his President’s birth certificate, they would retroactively proclaim him a saint and award him the Medal of Honor, I presume.
More fail by the Post and Fail….I guess they are going for the title of “what article can contain the most lies”…This one contains no truth whatsoever….It is amazing how some will lie and make stuff up just to undermine someone they don’t like…
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/07/speaker-boehner-why-not-ask-for-the-truth/
Dear Speaker Boehner:
In referrence to your interview with Brian Williams about the birth place of Obama: No evidence has been discovered that he was born in Hawaii. ALL evidence shows that he was born in Kenya, son of a British citizen. His Kenyan grandmother says that she was present at his birth in Mombasa.
When Obama was a teen living in Hawaii, he made the statement to a soldier that he was born in Kenya. His wife Michelle, has said that Kenya is his home place. A member of Kenyan parliament said that he is one of their own, and there are plans to put up a marker at his birth place.
His mother was too young to give him citizenship. He was adopted by his stepfather and was an Indonesian citizen.
If the Constitution is important to you, then you MUST face this issue.
The first, and most important issue facing this country is the eligibility of the person holding the highest office of our land, the president.
As a natural born citizen of the United States, I am asking you to uphold the Constitution which you have sworn to uphold, and launch an investigation into the eligibility of Obama to occupy the highest office in our country, the presidency.
Sincerely,
Lorene B Randolph
More on Theresa Cao:
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/07/theresa-cao-5-facts-about-the-obama-birther-protester/
And a direct link to the video with this birther lunatic rambling on about the New World Order and wearing a tallis with a shofar wrapped around her arm while chanting and eventually passing out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_5zZZfvZk&feature=player_embedded
More P&E hilarity….
John1970 says:
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 at 1:04 PM
Today, I have heard a rumour that Hawaii Governor Neil AberCommie is currently faking Obama’s long form BC in order for Obama to run for another term of Presidency.
And the response to this “rumor”?
Norman says:
Thursday, January 6, 2011 at 5:07 AM
> I have heard a rumor
> supposedly
Rumors and suppositions are of no use to us.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: While readers of the site can comment on rumors as long as the comments follow our policy, The Post & Email does not report on “rumors” and other things which cannot be substantiated, as we are a news site, not a blog.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/03/citizen-requests-congressional-investigation-of-lt-col-lakin-court-martial/#comments
And of course the usual call for sedition….
One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet says:
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 at 3:55 AM
Think about this: what judge Lind did in her courtroom hurt America a lot more than the attacks on 9-11. By her one treasonable ruling she made all the lives given and lost in the fight for freedom worthless. Judge Lind has extinguished the beacon for the free world. What happened in that courtroom was the most devastating blow to America than at any time since the Civil War. 9-11, as on Dec. 7, 1941, cost America lives and property yet the Constitution survived intact. Not so with Judge Lind: she trashed our most sacred document, a document so honored that oaths to protect it untill death have been spoken out loud by millions of Americans, including Audie Murphy.
Judge Lind did not uphold her oath to the Constitution, an act that will follow her with a shame that can never be erased. We wait for the outcome of Allen West and the 112th Congress to right a most terrible wrong done to our Constitution; nothing is more important. What is at stake is whether or not the United States of America will stand or fall.
We have been hit, and hit hard. The media has supported those who wish to overthrow the Constitution, people like Bill O’Rielly of FOX news, and all the other “reporters”, and all the secretaries of individual states who put Obama’s name on the ballot without the vetting process. We, as a nation, are bleeding and it’s serious. It is so serious that there is a good chance that we will not make it, that the United States Constitution will be null and void, to be replaced with rules and regulations that forever ends freedom of speech and the 2nd Amendment.
We, as a people, have one choice: do we do what is right, or do we do nothing? Do we put up or shut up? Do we lay down and give up, as Judge Lind did, or do we stand proud and say enough is enough and we’re not going to take it anymore?
I’m a Vietnam Vet. I have had the best training, I have been in combat, I took the Oath and I’m not going to let Judge Lind or anyone else, including my Secretary of State, or my congressman, destroy my country.
I will take up arms against this government, be it local, state, or federal, who supports this administration that is doing its best to destroy America.
Any law enforcement officer, any F.B.I. agent reading this, you also took the Oath. The question is, are you going to follow through, or are you going to became despised as a coward, cheater, and traitor? Time has run out; you are either an American who supports the United States Constitution, or you just put yourself on the wrong side of life.
I’ll look forward to reading reports of this guy’s suicide by cop.
I really would love a copy of The Birfoon Constitution….it seems like such a fascinating read
Unfortunately you would have to lower your IQ about 100 points to actually understand it…
I think the best part is how it’s an infinitely mutable document that reads your mind and adjusts itself to your personal prejudices.
It’s MAGICAL
Fox’s So-Called Legal Expert Implores Viewers to “Look At The Dissent” Of 14th Amendment Case To Suggest Birthright Citizenship Unconstitutional
January 07, 2011 12:33 pm ET by Julie Millican
Fox’s so-called legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr. has been on a bit of a tear lately, relentlessly attacking the 14th Amendment and suggesting that his “hard look at” 14th Amendment Supreme Court cases shows that it was never meant to apply to children of foreign citizens. Yesterday, Johnson announced that we should “begin to discuss” ideas like giving a second class of citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, “meaning that if your parents are illegal in this country, then you would not be conferred the same type of citizenship that others” whose parents are citizens would get.
Later, he and Fox News host Megyn Kelly (both lawyers) continued to twist facts and ignored history on birthright citizenship, dismissing Supreme Court rulings on the 14th Amendment as being “political” rather than “constitutional.”
Today on Fox & Friends, Johnson continued his assault on the 14th Amendment by imploring Fox News viewers to “look at the dissent” in the 1898 Supreme Court case U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, which he said showed that the 14th Amendment wasn’t meant to apply to children of illegal immigrants. He rather emphatically declared: “The dissent in that case said that the Chinese immigrant should NOT be a citizen based on the 14th Amendment.” Why would Johnson be demanding viewers to “look at the dissent” of that case? Why, because the Supreme Court actually ruled that a child born in the U.S. to foreigners was a U.S. citizen, of course.
As the Congressional Research Service noted, the Supreme Court ruled in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark that “where birth in the United States was clear, a child of Chinese parents was, in the Court’s opinion, definitely a citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment, even though Chinese aliens were ineligible to naturalize under then-existing law.” The Court further stated:
The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes.
Johnson also ignored that Senate debate at the time clearly shows that Congress recognized the impact this would have on children of “aliens,” and as James C. Ho. — who worked for Justice Clarence Thomas, George W. Bush, and Sen. John Cornyn — wrote, the “plain meaning of” the 14th Amendment’s “language is clear”: It was meant to apply to anyone who was born in the U.S. whose parents were “subject to the jurisdiction” of U.S. laws. Ho stated:
A foreign national living in the United States is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” because he is legally required to obey U.S. law. (By contrast, a foreign diplomat who travels here on behalf of a foreign sovereign enjoys diplomatic immunity from–and thus is not subject to the jurisdiction of–U.S. law.)
And, indeed, the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld this interpretation. But rather than tell you all that, Peter Johnson Jr. would prefer that you look at dissenting opinions that confirm his worldview.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101070016
The Arizona Legislature is considering a law that will not give children of illegal aliens citizenship. So far I have heard nothing on this story from anyone, Democrat or Republican lawmaker or Governor Brewer or anyone else, that indicates an understanding that a state law cannot override the 14th Amendment. (Some of the discussion and reporting has been framed in terms of the 14th Amendment, but seems to represent the 14th Amendment as some sort of guideline where the state has the authority to make a different rule about citizenship.)
Or something. Some of the commentary makes Pearce’s proposal out to be “a proposal to change the 14th Amendment” without any indication of the concept of needing a full Constitutional Amendment in order to do that.
There’s a real contradiction here. The Tea Partiers claim to believe that everything should be exactly as it was under the Founders. Yet, under the Founders, the borders were wide open and anyone could come here from anywhere in the world, establish residence and after a decent interval become a citizen. I also am pretty certain that if a couple came here from England or Germany or Ireland in the Founder’s time, their kids would automatically be US citizens even if they were born 15 minutes after their parents got off the boat.
Taitz has made an amusing comment about this on her blog, in response to a question about whether she will be representing Theresa Cao:
Her dad?! Apparently Taitz thinks Cao is incapable of taking care of herself.
James M.,
Those state laws that are being considered (contrary to the Fourteenth Amendment) are being created with the intent that they be challenged and ultimately end up at the Supreme Court.
Isn’t that assuming the Supreme Court decides to accept the case?
They will run into the same problem as Lakin. A state’s violation of the 14th amendment will be ruled unconstitutional. It will not give them access to Obama’s records.
These “laws” are going to go off the road at the District or State Supreme Court level in exactly the same way as Ankeny v Indiana.
If the politicians are still willing, in a time of withered state revenues and massive budget deficits, to attempt to appeal past that point their opponents in politics will use it as a club come election time.
The sums of legal monies spent whilst, relatively small in comparison to overall state budgets, are more than big enough for headlines like…
“Buttkiss school district had to cut free lunches for poor chidren but THEY spent 2.5 million dollars on an anti Constitutuional lawsuit THEY KNEW WOULD FAIL! Would you trust Boss Hogg not to do it AGAIN…Vote Cletus for financial stability and support of the law” 😎
Bovril, ftw! 😀
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Well, I for one vote for giving the money to lawyers rather than to the kids. Too many fat kids today anyway.
I second that emotion.
I must admit that I had not heard of this bill until you mentioned it. I have Googled it and read this article.
As I understand it, the Arizona proposal would not re-define US citizenship as such. Rather, it would forbid state and local governments from issuing birth certificates to those born to undocumented immigrants.
This proposal would violate the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment. People born in Arizona to parents without diplomatic citizenship are automatically US citizens by virtue of the 14th Amendment and 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a). The bill would prevent some citizens from obtaining evidence of their citizenship and exercising their rights as most citizens born in the state can do. As the sole reason for the bill is to discriminate against US citizens and deprive them of the benefits of their citizenship based on the conduct of their parents, it would be very unlikely to even survive rational basis review.
How about the unintended consequence of creating a whole generation of people who are “not subject to the jursidiction thereof?”
🙂
Could someone please explain to me why non-lawyers who frequent this site understand Constitutional Law better than elected Legislators?
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Haven’t think tanks and various wing-nut groups have been working on this strategy for years? The whole idea is to draft a law that violates the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, have a court throw it out and then hope the supreme court will re-visit the issue. But I agree that under an equal protection analysis, it is not clear a court would ever have to address the citizenship definition as both aliens and citizens are covered under the equal protection class and children of illegal aliens wouldn’t be a suspect class in either case. Perhaps, they are hoping that a court would determine that there might be a rationale basis to discriminate against aliens, but not citizens. I think Plylor v. Doe applied somewhat an intermediate standard, but think such was pretty controversial and doubt the current court would follow that.
Legislators like these, are, more than ever, pandering to the lowest of the low. They know this won’t fly, most of them. But they also know if they make it into theatre, the pond scum will credit them with being ‘tough on illegal immigration’ and part of the movement to ‘take back the country’ and ‘restore the Constitution’.
Opponents of that view are on a hiding to none, and the smoke and mirrors hides any legitimate chance of dealing with real problems in an effective way. Some politicians think that is a vote winner, and in some circles they are right. Some of those politicians are connected at the hip to the wallets of vested interests who have no interest in legitimate immigration reform.
Thanks, Keith, for your comments. So, so true. I had meant the question to be rhetorical.
Never mind the Democrats that were not there, what about all the Republicans that were absent, there were only 3 of them on the floor!
Code Pink NEVER interrupted House proceedings!
Code Pink only demonstrates at Committee hearings.
Go back to your dank mother’s basement!
More WND nonsense….
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249709
BORN IN THE USA?
Ineligible president cited as reason to kill Obamacare
Lawsuit says it’s not law because the one’ is only statutory citizen’
Posted: January 11, 2011
8:33 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
A lot of court cases have been filed alleging that Barack Obama never qualified to become president, and therefore is occupying the Oval Office as a matter of fact, but not of law. Now there’s a new case that argues since Obama is not legally president, his Obamacare takeover of the nation’s health-care industry should be voided.
“It is indisputable and not denied that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama Jr.’s father was a citizen of the British Commonwealth,” says the lawsuit, now pending before a federal judge who is awaiting word from the Justice Department on how its lawyers want to defend against the claims.
What idiots… Under what statute did President Obama become a citizen of the United States?
Hint: the 14th Amendment is neither a ‘statute’ nor did it define citizenship in a statutory fashion, it merely declared what was already the situation under our Constitution and Common Law.
> Now there’s a new case that argues since Obama is not legally president, his Obamacare takeover of the nation’s health-care industry should be voided.
I really really wonder how the plaintiff is going to pass the “standing” test.
Abstract injury (“this legislation might affect me one day”) is not enough.
Besides, not being an expert in US law, I doubt that even if, arguendo, Obama were not the legitimate President and the de facto officer doctrine did not apply, the laws he signed would be void.
The Presentment Clause of the Constitution says: “If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.”
Wouldn’t this apply to most laws that Obama has signed (in the hypothetical situation the birthers were correct)?
Purpura v. Sebelius: Birthers And Baggers
Tea Party Birthers in New Jersey filed this claim in the U.S. District Court in Trenton, hoping to halt implementation of the Affordable Care Act, last September. According to the NJ Tea Party Coalition web site, pro se plaintiffs, Nicholas E. Purpura and Donald Laster, are joined in the suit by Jersey Shore Tea Party Patriots, Ocean County Citizens for Freedom, and the Colts Neck Tea Party.
Typical of Birther cases, and this is a Birther case, in between the claim and the current summary judgment motion and reply, there have been multiple filings (see docket below), requests for restraining orders, demands that the judge be recused, charges of corruption and conspiracy, along with the usual false Birther claims.
This video shows a Tea Party meeting where the case is being explained to attendees and the point is made clear as a bell, it’s all about getting the usurpin’ mofo out of the White House. There is the usual one black face at the tea party. He is also the only person to talk any sense, practically begging Purpura and Laster to remove the Birther count from the complaint. It was already done and filed, so he was wasting his breath, and they shouted him down, anyway. With the argument degenerating–instigated by nothing I could tell but the man’s race–into an argument about race, with the black man instructed by a white man, on all the white people who voted for a “colored” candidate. But do watch. It’s amusing, if totally pathetic.
On January 11, World Net Daily summarized:
“Plaintiffs are not arguing whether Mr. Obama was or was not born in Hawaii, though it is incumbent for this honorable court to also address that question,” the plaintiffs wrote. “The question that mandates an answer, why is Mr. Obama above the law, when by law you need a birth certificate to obtain a driver’s license, Social Security card and/or passports,” the pleading said.
Of course, President Obama has a driver’s license, Social Security card and passport, so then how did he get them if he has no birth certificate? The State of Hawaii has certified the President’s natural born citizenship. What’s the question again? Oh, well there are other questions, and other Social Security numbers, (just like Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. will tell you if you are stupid enough to listen to her).
“There are other questions that demand answers: why does Mr. Obama have scores of Social Security numbers, and those numbers it has been discovered were issued by the state of Connecticut. If a fraud was perpetrated upon the American people it is a crime.
Where are these scores of Social Security numbers? On those error-ridden public lists you find on the Internet “discovered” by the loony Orly Taitz, who makes no connection of those numbers to President Obama, just as Purpura and Laster make no connection.
“Regardless, based upon the Constitution and the British citizenship of Mr. Obama’s father, he, Mr. Barack Obama Jr., is constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of the president.
Why do they love foreign law so much they put its authority ahead of United States law? Why would they even entertain the idea that the United States of America gives two hoots about what another country’s citizenship law established? The United States only cares when American citizenship is renounced, which President Obama has never done in his life and which his parents could not have done for him. Rather than rely on 300 years of American jurisprudence, once again we have the Swiss de Vattel and two citizen parents, an argument which was recently denied a writ of certiorari by SCOTUS in a case brought by Mario Apuzzo.
What is with these patriots? Why do they hate America?
In any case, Barack Obama, Sr.’s British citizenship expired on December 12, 1963. Thereafter, his son, President Obama, was obliged to actively choose Kenyan citizenship over US citizenship by the age of 23, which he did not do. He was never a citizen of Indonesia, could not have been, by Indonesian law, above the age of five by adoption, and he was already six when he got there. And he was never adopted. From the State Department in Strunk:
– President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a U.S. “natural born” citizen and is eligible to serve as the United States President, pursuant to the United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5.
– President Obama is not an illegal alien and has never been a citizen of Indonesia.
– President Obama never was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.
As for Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5, they claim:
“Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was a British citizen and gave his son British citizenship, Barack Hussein Obama Jr., does not meet the natural born citizen’ requirement of Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of the contract represented by the U.S. Constitution nor was he … alive and a citizen of the United States of America at the time the U.S. Constitution was adopted. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is a native born or statutory citizen and is therefore ineligible to exercise the authority of the office of president of the United States and cannot sign bills into law,” the case states.
Well, no: Ankeny:
Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
Any country can claim any American as a citizen, if their legal system is set up that way. Taking Nicholas Purpura as an example, he would be a dual citizen of Italy by Italian citizenship law based on ancestry, but if born on US soil, he is a natural born citizen of the United States–unless he is saying he isn’t–anyway.
Nicholas Purpura, by the way, a former partner in Bear Stearns, is rather well-known in the New York City area, where he spent a small fortune and two decades in a property battle with his first wife in the longest running divorce case in the state’s history. Four of the judges died before it was over.
Like Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq., he will probably never give up on this one.
The summary judgment motion will be decided “on the papers” by Judge Freda L. Wolfson on January 18.
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=15602
Over at NBC’ site Borderraven makes an appearance….Unfortunately for him he is confronted with acutal facts and law….
He is so desperate that he makes up a quote from Wikpedia….Amazing…
borderraven says:
January 13, 2011 at 12:13
Presidential Eligibility
See http://www.scribd.com/doc/46145949/US-President-Eligibility
Presidents 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 & 12, were “present at the adoption of the constitution.”
With George Washingto being 55 and Zachary Taylor being the youngest at 3 years old.
The Natural Born Citizens who became US Presidents are: 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 38, 40, 41, 42 & 43.
Both of their parents either became citizens at the adoption of the constitution, or were born of the new citizens, or were naturalized before the future president was born.
Anomallies
#21 Chester A. Arthur
Chester Alan Arthur was born on October 5, 1829, fourteen (14) years before his father William Arthur was naturalized as a US citizen, and therefore Chester A. Arthur was not a Natural Born Citizen, and not eligible to serve as a US president, a secret he kept during his usurpation of office. (wiki)
#44 Barack Hussein Obama
Barack Hussein Obama was born August 4, 1961, at Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii the son of Barack Obama, Sr., in Hawaii on a student visa, under consular jurisdiction of the British embassy and consulate, and his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, age18. (wiki)
Barack Hussein Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen.
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/purpura-v-sibelius-docket/#comments
Do not confuse Borderraven with facts…
NBC, I noticed…He was pretty quiet once confronted with them….It almost wasn’t fair since he was so far out of his league….I guess he will have to slink back to the moderated sites so that he can post his nonsense without being confused by the truth or facts….
> He is so desperate that he makes up a quote from Wikpedia…
Probably something he edited himself into Wikipedia for a short period until it was, in birtherspeak, “scrubbed”. *duh*
I’ve seen cranks this site of the Atlantic do the same. They vandalize a Wikipedia entry, smearing their target, make a screenshot and then post link and screenshot (“in case the censors remove it again”) saying something to the effect of “Even Wikipedia says that X is a convicted criminal”.
How very communist of them. 🙂
Theresa Cao is a HERO and we need more people like her. It’s about time people start paying attention to this issue. Obama is a usurper and we hopefully will be getting to the bottom of this very soon and then hopefully put him behind bars, where he belongs!
If ya all get a chance, go on over to the Fogbow forum and try to have a different view than them. See how butthurt they get and do everything they can to censor you. First they will give you your own thread hidden deep where no one can find it and then when it explodes and takes over the forum, they wine and cry and say you are banned.
WAH WAH WAH
Fogblow sucks!
yessirree, aaaannnnnnnnyyyy day now. just don’t forget to come back and let us know when all that goes down, ok? i’d hate to miss it.
Tut tut KBOA
Making stuff up about your stupendous and epic FAIL over at Fogbow is not going to help your case here.
You guys sure have a very low standard for what a hero is
That is true….They think that the former LtC. Lakin is a hero for disobeying orders and deserting his unit in a time of war….
That’s the type of heroism that can get you summarily executed on the field of battle…
Sometimes I cry when I drink wine. Usually the boxed kind of wine and only when I’ve had too much to drink.
Tracy has been saying any day now for over 660 days. So, Tracy. When is Obama going down?
I was asleep for a while – is Obama still president? 😉
I believe so…As a matter of fact I saw him on TV just the other night….And for some reason everyone kept addressing him as “Mr. President”….That must have driven the birthers crazy…..
Don’t forget that the birfers thought that President Obama would be asked for his papers when he went to Arizona and then arrested when he couldn’t show them. I’m betting they has a big sad. ðŸ™
This was put in moderation before so if this is a duplicate please ignore the previous one…
More commentary from the insanity that is Dr kate…..She is just plain crazy….She is still pushing unsubstantiated nonsense and mad that her hero Theresa Cao has blended into obscurity….
“Did we mention that Obama’s “Justice” Department is suing Arizona making war on the states, aka, treason, and inviting other jurisdictions to join in the lawsuit? Oh yes, what about the announcement of Judge Roll just 72 hours before his assassination that he intended to rule against the Obama administration’s efforts to seize –using FDR’s gold seizure in the 1930′s as precedent- – $330,000–calling it unlawful absent evidence of criminal intent or activity’? Click on the image to see an important film on why it is important to make the narcissist Obama’s symbol a laughing stock of the Nation.
Petty tyrant that he is, Obama covers up the true story with a parade in the middle of a solemn ceremony to honor the dead. He dares us to call him crass or inappropriate…after all, we could be accused of the shooting. This deftly deflects from the heroism of Theresa Cao, and falsely elevates Obama to something other than the common criminal he is.”
http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/without-obama-we-thrive/
And in the comments…
Quantum Le*p
January 13, 2011 at 12:35 pm
She never clapped with the others during reading of prayers. But then again the prayers were staged and read by her commie cronies who do not believe in God so why should she clap…GGGGGooooooooooooo sasquatch..you cute bigfoot you..NOT!
Plus she got rid of the judge that was going to stop her from seizing our bank accounts. She thinks it’s her money because she’s a n-e-g-r-o and needs reparations. gag me.
And the response to our racially challenged poster…
Birth*rLover
January 13, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Oh, I’m sorry, “n-e-g-r-o” isn’t a term used by aging racists any more, forgive me. You should try going into work tomorrow and using the term, if anyone in here is employed. ProTip, Crazy Old Coot, calling someone racist is the current thing to do when someone is being fucking racist.
Also, just a heads up, Michelle Obama is a Princeton and Harvard educated lawyer who has probably made more money in the private sector than this entire comment board clears off of your scratch tickets and bottle returns in your entire lives put together. Reparations? What’s she going to do, come for the carburetor you keep in the bathtub?
Doc, the first attempts to post were put in moderation…Please delete when you get the chance…I see why….
More commentary from the insanity that is Dr kate…..She is just plain crazy….She is still pushing unsubstantiated nonsense and mad that her hero Theresa Cao has blended into obscurity….
“Did we mention that Obama’s “Justice” Department is suing Arizona making war on the states, aka, treason, and inviting other jurisdictions to join in the lawsuit? Oh yes, what about the announcement of Judge Roll just 72 hours before his assassination that he intended to rule against the Obama administration’s efforts to seize –using FDR’s gold seizure in the 1930′s as precedent- – $330,000–calling it unlawful absent evidence of criminal intent or activity’? Click on the image to see an important film on why it is important to make the narcissist Obama’s symbol a laughing stock of the Nation.
Petty tyrant that he is, Obama covers up the true story with a parade in the middle of a solemn ceremony to honor the dead. He dares us to call him crass or inappropriate…after all, we could be accused of the shooting. This deftly deflects from the heroism of Theresa Cao, and falsely elevates Obama to something other than the common criminal he is.”
http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/without-obama-we-thrive/
And in the comments…
Quantum Leap
January 13, 2011 at 12:35 pm
She never clapped with the others during reading of prayers. But then again the prayers were staged and read by her commie cronies who do not believe in God so why should she clap…GGGGGooooooooooooo sasquatch..you cute bigfoot you..NOT!
Plus she got rid of the judge that was going to stop her from seizing our bank accounts. She thinks it’s her money because she’s a negro and needs reparations. gag me.
And the response to our racially challenged poster…
BirtherLover
January 13, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Oh, I’m sorry, “negro” isn’t a term used by aging racists any more, forgive me. You should try going into work tomorrow and using the term, if anyone in here is employed. ProTip, Crazy Old Coot, calling someone racist is the current thing to do when someone is being f**king racist.
Also, just a heads up, Michelle Obama is a Princeton and Harvard educated lawyer who has probably made more money in the private sector than this entire comment board clears off of your scratch tickets and bottle returns in your entire lives put together. Reparations? What’s she going to do, come for the carburetor you keep in the bathtub?
Over at Freeperville they too are excited by the new ridiculous claim regarding some guy from HI….
“I would be very surprised if a doctor remembered the name of very many of his patients 50 years later. If he did the prenatal visits and delivered the child and it was a very strange circumstance, maybe. Or if he delivered multiple children for that family or had a very small practice where it was a community thing. But if the child was delivered by whoever was on call, I doubt they would even think about the name. Even with the name of Stanley Ann, I don’t think a person would remember that necessarily.
I say that because I taught students for 7 hours a day 9 months out of the year 20 years ago and when I look at unlabeled photos of them I might remember their first name but hardly ever their last name. And that’s only after 20 years and I had the same 20 or so kids all year.
So I don’t find anything strange about a doctor not coming forward and remembering the birth. I’m with you on that one.
It’s actually kind of comforting to know that the medical professionals who have delivered my kids probably have an “if you’ve seen one you’ve seen them all” attitude. lol. If you’re still delivering babies I have to say that I envy you though. There’s something so beautiful about birth, in spite of the pain and sometimes problems.
I tried checking to see how long medical records are kept. For some reason 12 or 20 years sticks in my head for a legal requirement of how long they must be kept (can’t remember which). Different people have said in the smaller hospitals they don’t purge the records so there could be records from a very long time ago. So I don’t know what to expect as far as the medical records. But the confidentiality laws would have to be followed on medical records. So it doesn’t bother me that those haven’t been released.
But if Obama was born at Kapiolani as he now claims, there would be a signature of the attending MD or RN on the long-form, as well as whatever prenatal and postnatal records Hawaii required. And if there was a typo or minor mistake Obama would not have been charged a fee to amend the BC.
And if there was a minor amendment there would be no reason to fear a judge looking at it and saying, “Oops. The nurse had a discrepancy in her records and accidentally put Aug 5 instead of Aug 4, when technically the birth was before midnight.” Or something similar.
The reason for Obama to be scared to have a judge look at the genuine documents they have is if there’s something that would definitely seem fishy. Like a birth weight added 45 years after the birth, and no doctor’s signature after he claimed to have been born at Kapiolani.
Obama posting what the HDOH has indirectly confirmed as a forgery is a HUGE tell-tale sign that there is something very definitely wrong with the official records. Since the amendment was in 2006 it was too late to be something with paternity. There isn’t anything on a BC about religion. I can’t think of anything that would be on a COLB that would “embarrass” him to the point that he would rather show a forgery than the real COLB if he had one.
91 posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:01:27 PM by butterdezillion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2656304/posts?q=1&;page=51
I guess it doesn’t go by the name “Squeeky” any more, or maybe there are two of them
I believe this is a different lunatic who haunted the Washington Independent when Weigel exposed birther stupidity there.
So there ARE two of them. Of all the gin joints in all the world…..
You happened to walk into mine!
Private investigators have revealed to Conservative Examiner the details of an investigation into the frantic effort by Obama operatives to stop all questions concerning the Constitutional issue of Presidential eligibility.
Conservative Examiner can now reveal that 2 websites have been devoted to the singular purpose of maligning, disparaging, and threatening conservatives who wish to discover the truth about Obama’s background. Those sites are Politijab and Fogbow. The main players behind the scheme are those with the screen names of ‘Foggy,’ ‘Realist,’ and ‘Justin.’
MORE HERE:
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/exclusive-investigation-frantic-effort-to-stop-questions-on-obama-eligibility?render=print
YOURS? Oh ,no. Doc owns this place. Didn’t you see the sign out front that says “Doc’s Café Américain?” You dames gotta be respectful to Doc now. He’s a world traveler, you know. My Name’s FUTTHESHUCKUP, and I tend bar for Doc here. How about we get off on the right foot and I fix you up with a little something to whet your whistle? It’s on the house.
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad196/FUTTHESHUCKUP/cheers-1.jpg
Really? Someone hired private investigators and the best those investigators could come up with is the Internet handles of people who post on Politijab and Fogbow? That’s pathetic.
In case anyone missed it, KenyanBornObamAcorn was banned from Fogbow for spamming and telling members to “f*ck off” and called one a “ska nk”. But that a victory in her small, diseased mind.
And please, point me to one birther site that will allow me to post over 200 times.
drat. wrong thread
They’re getting really nasty now that they know the jig is up, obsolete. Boehner better watch his back.
The more irrational they are, the longer they’re going to cling to this nonsense, and when all is said and done, you’re left with a core of really, really sick individuals who are capable of doing just about anything.
This seems like a pathetic form of ‘counting coup’ in the birther world – they go to a debunking website and get more and more obnoxious until they are banned, after which they return to their own websites in triumph for their coming-of-age ceremony (or ‘birth-mitzvah’) where they are feted by the other members of their tribe… It’s sad, really.
By the way, I hope you don’t mind that I stole a line from you for my sig on Fogbow (and attributed it to Thomas Jefferson)…
“As of this posting, Barack Obama remains President. What are you going to do about it?” – Thomas Jefferson
Then they invent another handle, move to a different internet cafe or public library and start all over again.
I guess it’s the birther ‘circle of life’… 😉
Great interview from Anderson Cooper regarding this issue…
http://www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/06/acd.01.html
NUGENT: I do not support that. But I do support we, the people, constantly asking questions and demanding evidence. No, I’ve never been a birther but my big question today after all this resistance to the demands for confirmation, why not just come out, show me the damn birth certificate. Show me the proof and let’s —
COOPER: But they prove — they’ve done it.
NUGENT: Let’s get over with it. If you demanded it of me, Anderson, I’d go, all right, already, here’s the damn paperwork. Now let’s get on with our business.
COOPER: Right. But they did that years ago. They got the certificate of a live birth which, if you’re from Hawaii, that’s what you get.
NUGENT: I don’t think that’s conclusive.
COOPER: But if you’re in the passport office and someone from Hawaii comes in with that and shows it to you, they give you a passport. That’s conclusive. Anyone from Hawaii.
NUGENT: You think that documentation is conclusive all around?
COOPER: The Republican governor — then Republican governor of Hawaii has said on the record the guy was born in Hawaii. I have sent my health direct or to the records room and we’ve seen the long form original.
NUGENT: Well, you know, I’ve been busy hunting all year so maybe I missed something.
COOPER: Come on.
NUGENT: But my point would be, if I don’t know that what you just told me already existed and has been offered, and she doesn’t, there’s a whole bunch of people that don’t, then why don’t we just make it as confirmed and as official as possible in a public forum so that we do put it to rest once and for all?
COOPER: But, James, it’s interesting. You know, no amount of — I mean I’ve had a lot of folks who consider themselves birthers on. I had a guy named Leo Burman, a state rep, on recently who had a lot of facts but they were — I mean each of them was just incorrect. And he was a very — he was a lovely gentleman. He’d served his country. And he’s a vet —
NUGENT: And I’m a lovely gentleman.
COOPER: You’re a lovely gentleman. But I mean he was just — he just clung to this belief no matter what facts you presented to him. What do you — have you ever seen anything like this?
CARVILLE: Yes, sure. Look, of course, they had two newspaper articles the day after he was born that said that he was born. There were people in Louisiana that don’t believe anyone landed on the moon. It looks like Arizona to me. I’m not going for this.
And so what — they show pictures. They’ve got people walking around. You’ve got NASA. You got everything. And they’ve got people who don’t believe the earth is round. They’ve got people that believe that tax cuts pay for themselves, which is a sort of economic equivalent of birtherism.
And so at a point, you just — these people — there’s nothing you can do about that lady. There’s an entire country to go and you just move on. I mean they’re just oblivious to anything. And you’re right. The problem is, as you ask (INAUDIBLE), Anderson, if you keep arguing with these people.
COOPER: Debi Mazar joins us now from Los Angeles.
Debi, it’s good to have you on the program. What do you make of the birthers? You’re not a birther, are you?
DEBI MAZAR, HOST, COOKING CHANNEL’S “EXTRA VIRGIN”: Thanks for having me. I’m not a birther. I think like Obama, you know, we’ve already seen the fact that he’s got a birth certificate in 2008 when he ran. We’ve seen the birth certificate and, like, let’s move on. Like he’s the president of the United States and we’ve seen it, and what are we now going to take away his children’s citizenship as well?
COOPER: Because it’s interesting, the people who believe this, who still cling to this say that the birth certificate, the certificate of live birth which was shown, which was presented, which is — has a raised seal, which has the stamp of the guy from Hawaii, that that’s not — that’s not a real birth certificate. That’s not good enough.
NUGENT: Is there a better piece of evidence? You know, again, I’m just a guitar player, so bear with me. But if there’s a better piece of evidence that everybody would accept, let’s see it.
CARVILLE: There is. There is.
MAZAR: I mean you’ve seen his — (CROSSTALK)
COOPER: Go ahead, Ted.
CARVILLE: There’s two newspaper articles the day after he was born.
MAZAR: We’ve seen his birth certificate, Ted. What more do we need to see?
COOPER: James? What was that?
CARVILLE: I said the day after he was born there were two announcements of births in both Honolulu newspapers. How much more conclusive can you get? I mean I’ve never seen my birth certificate.
MAZAR: Yes, unless we’ve seen the birth certificate.
CARVILLE: I’m saying get something from (INAUDIBLE) County where Fort Benning (ph) is. And you know if I’ve got to go get a passport, that’s what I’d give him. I’m a long form, (INAUDIBLE) farmer, the hell it is.
I think it went by “Obamacornlies!” back then
Code Pink has only ever interrupted Committee hearings.
They have NEVER interrupted a session of Congress.
There is no equivalence on the left of the shit you on the right do!
That is because they are so desperate to try and hide the fact that their numbers are actually a lot smaller than what they try to say.
Great article from the Examiner regarding the circus that is Oily Titz….
I think Orly Taitz likes me.
So according to Birther Queen Orly Taitz, I have had some communication with President Obama:
An answer from Obama to my second letter came from his surrogate, political reporter Bill Bowman in “Examiner” I posted a comment below in the Examiner.
Seems Orly has objected to my asking for proof of her allegations that the president (he is the president, Orly, no matter what you think) is using a number of Social Security numbers.
In her response, Orly requests that I read the affidavits submitted in two of her failures, Barnett v Obama and Taitz v Obama, which she has recently re-posted on her Web site. Sure, I have 10 minutes to kill.
So the first one is from an Ohio-based private investigator named Susan Daniels. In her affidavit (filed as part of Barnett v. Obama), Daniels claims to have found eight Social Security numbers for the president and two for the first lady. Looking at the eight-pages of attachments, we see there’s one number that apparently recurs, but we can’t tell because it’s mostly redacted. The only part showing is the last part, 4425.
There are two numbers, which begin with 901 and 799, which are fraudulent.
There’s another number which apparently was issued to a Connecticut woman who died in 1998.
I’ve done searches of people using several different commercial databases, and I can tell you that the information in these aggregators can sometimes be highly suspect. You just can’t take the information and draw conclusions from it, you’ve got to do more footwork and digging to confirm it. That, apparently, is not Orly’s style.
Even Daniels has said that it’s not unusual for a person to have more than one Social Security number pop up for them in searches:
According to Susan Daniels, of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. in Chardon Ohio, when searching through database aggregators such as IRB, it is common to find a subject referenced with two or three Social Security Numbers (SSN). Here are some of the reasons a person may show-up with multiple SSN’s:
a wife’s or child’s SSN could end up with father’s name
a parent’s SSN could show up with a child
the subject bought something with someone else and the SSNs could end up with each other’s name
the database producer is relating several SSN’s to one address
an error by whoever entered the data
The other two affidavits are by John Sampson of Colorado, another PI, who retired from the Department of Homeland Security. Apparently part of his job was chasing illegal aliens. Sampson’s affidavit was filed as part of Taitz v Obama. On a humorous note, Sampson continually refers to Obama as the plaintiff in the suit. Nice job of proofreading, folks.
Anyway, Sampson says in his affidavit that after a request from Orly, he traced the SSN ending in 4425 and found that it had been issued in Connecticut.
He spends the rest of the affidavit complaining that his account at the company through which he did the search was frozen after a company official apparently didn’t believe his explanation for why he was searching for information on Obama.
So basically, what we have are two people giving Orly preliminary information, none of which has been verified, and her running with it as Gospel truth.
Very lazy, Orly. Very lazy. Or is it that you’re afraid your theory goes up in smoke if you dig too deeply?
Taitz claims that this information shows that the president does not have a valid SSN from Hawaii, when it shows nothing of the sort. Even the site where Daniels found her information cautions that it may not be reliable.
Elsewhere in her response, Taitz claims that I “missed” “left wing reporters” Jake Taper (his name is Tapper, Orly) and Chris Matthews, who, she said, have questioned why the president won’t release his long-form birth certificate. That they did. But she’s reading too much into it; they’re not asking the question in a Birther sort of way. Nuance is lost on our Orly, I’m afraid.
Then she really takes a leap over the edge:
Mathews from MSNBC challenged Obama to release those. If your own people de facto call you a fraud and a stinking liar, you are in real trouble Mr. Obama.
This statement is wrong on so many levels. First, Matthews is not one of “Obama’s people.” Second, Matthews did not call him a fraud. Third, Matthews did not call him a “stinking liar.”
With this kind of nonsense, is it any wonder people in the reality based world think Orly is a jackass?
Keep the faith.
http://www.examiner.com/birther-movement-in-national/i-think-orly-taitz-likes-me
From the Post and Fail and Citizen Wells, more letter writing nonsense….I wonder when the birthers will figure out that they were used and now are to be thrown away like trash….They keep thinking that somehow one of the Politicans will commit suicide and join their losing cause…Especially Deal, who backed away from the birther issue as soon as he could….
Below is the so called letter….
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/01/17/robert-h-cipperly-lcdr-letter-to-georgia-elected-officials-obama-eligibility-ga-ballot/
Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR letter to Georgia elected officials, Obama eligibility, GA ballot
“Why has Obama, for over 2 years, employed numerous private and government attorneys to avoid presenting a legitimate birth certificate and college records?”…Citizen Wells and millions of concerned Americans
From the Post & Email January 17, 2011.
“An Open Letter to:
Governor Nathan Deal
Office of the Governor
State of Georgia
203 State Capitol
Atlanta, GA 30334
Dear Georgia elected Officials;
I know it is early days in the present Georgia Administration. However, I am writing to you now because of the importance of the current Constitutional crisis that the United States of America and, by default the State of Georgia now finds itself in. The Georgia Constitution is very specific as to the protections afforded the citizens of Georgia as to their freedoms and liberty. These freedoms are being severely eroded by the overreach of the Federal Government that are in violation of the Tenth amendment to the United States Constitution concerning States sovereignty.
First, a man who calls himself Barak Hussein Obama was put on the ballot in Georgia as a candidate for the office of president of the United States. To date, there has been no validated documentation that has been provided that such a person exists and that such a person has the qualifications under Article II of the United States Constitution that requires the Office of the President of the United States be a “Natural Born Citizen”. The person in question has admitted publicly that he was born as the son of a British subject and, that alone, disqualifies him to reside in the White House. Also, investigations have shown that he has used several different Social Security numbers. The main one that has been used appears to be one that belonged to someone else from the state of Connecticut. The individual in question has never been known to reside in that state. He also claims education that has for all intensive purposes has been proven to be fictitious and he has never disputed the findings, nor have any of the persons involved with the facility ever come forward with proof of such activity. Further, he has traveled to a foreign country when travel to that country was banned by the US Government for US citizens. No such passport has ever been found that supports such travel. For all intensive purposes, we really have no idea of who this person really is. It is requested that an investigation be done to determine if the laws of Georgia were broken when this person was placed on the ballot for the position of President of the United States.”
“Third, the certification that was provided to the State of Georgia was done so by Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Committee. That Certification was not done in accordance with the requirements of the Constitution of the United States of America. A properly worded Certification was submitted to the State of Hawaii. However, the other 49 states received a different letter of Certification. It is requested that this certification be examined to determine if there was voter fraud perpetrated in its submission. Also, if the Certification was attested to under penalty of perjury and it is determined that the person placed on the ballot does not qualify under Article II of the Constitution as a Natural Born Citizen, then charges of perjury be made for those who made the attestation.”
“Respectfully,
Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR (USN Ret.) CIA (Ret.)”
Read more:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/17/georgia-elected-officials-have-been-put-on-notice-about-obamas-ineligibility/
And commentary from alleged lawyer jbjd….
jbjd | January 18, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
Today’s earlier post on this blog about the letter sent in GA eloquently (albeit I am certain, inadvertently) expresses the reason protests against Obama’s Constitutional ineligibility to be POTUS fail to gain legal traction: citizen ignorance about the electoral process, including their own laws.
GA already has a law linking candidate qualification for office, with eligibility to get on the ballot. (I wrote about this on my blog way back in the fall of 2008!) GA already has a law spelling out that citizens can launch protests with the SoS for suspected problems with candidate eligibility. GA already has citizen complaints of election fraud viz a viz the ballot, drafted and posted on my blog, which a handful of citizens have already sent to AG Baker, who preceded AG Olens. (And AG Baker was the only AG in the 13 vote binding states who, when I warned him Obama representatives were coercing Clinton pledged delegates to change their votes before the D Convention, warned Clinton delegates, in GA, the law says, they have to vote for the candidate voters elected them to represent! http://jbjd.org/2010/08/17/a-coup-through-and-through-2-of-3/)
Then, not surprisingly, among other mistakes of fact the writer includes in his letter to officials, is this gem of a lie:
“Third, the certification that was provided to the State of Georgia was done so by Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Committee. That Certification was not done in accordance with the requirements of the Constitution of the United States of America. A properly worded Certification was submitted to the State of Hawaii. However, the other 49 states received a different letter of Certification. It is requested that this certification be examined to determine if there was voter fraud perpetrated in its submission. Also, if the Certification was attested to under penalty of perjury and it is determined that the person placed on the ballot does not qualify under Article II of the Constitution as a Natural Born Citizen, then charges of perjury be made for those who made the attestation.”
This lie that HI produced a unique Certification has haunted the blogosphere ever since JB Williams stole materials from my blog back in September 2009, BEFORE I obtained the Certification documents from SC and updated the article he had already stolen so that my readers would know, the laws of both HI and SC required specific language of eligibility on their Certifications, to get the name of the candidate printed on the ballot. Too bad the writer, evidently unaware he gets his information wrong, didn’t know about SC. He could have pointed out to GA that in neighboring SC, similar words of authentication were used on the ballot application, hand written at the last minute by the D state party Treasurer.
http://jbjd.org/2009/10/10/if-it-looks-like-a-duck/
Birther yeller arrested
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/06/5779455-birther-yeller-arrested#comments
In the comments section (Thu Jan 6, 2011 6:10 PM EST):
KenyanBornObamAcorn Deleted
KenyanBornObamAcorn Deleted
. . . and the usual assortment of birther lunatics.
KBOA’s were the only comments deleted. It must have been some pretty sick stuff.
Theresa Cao will be arraigned tomorrow, January 19, 2011 at 10:30am [ET] at Superior Court [Moultrie Courthouse], Washington, DC.
Following her arraignment, Cao will hold a press conference outside the Courthouse.
I’m sure Bob Unruh or Les Kinsolving will cover this momentous event.
Another birther attention shore? Really?
What’re the odds…..
Now that is great news since it’s an opinion, and opinions are not laws; moreover, opinions are like…..well… you, and everybody has one
Anthony Martin of the fake Examiner seems to be upset with the anti-birthers over at the Fogbow….However you have to read the comments…Anthony doesn’t like to be challenged….
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/the-left-makes-new-violent-threats
“Sources who are following the developing scandal involving the Leftwing websites ‘Fogbow’ and ‘Politijab’ report new violent threats made against persons within the conservative movement.
Since Conservative Examiner broke the story last week that a group of members of the website forums were considering legal action regarding violations of the registration agreement when Politijab decided to share part of its database with Fogbow, without the consent of all members, the forums have descended into chaos over what to do next.
The administrator of one of the groups, who had touted the openness of the forum, even allowing so-called ‘birthers’ to join, was so alarmed by the negative publicity his site had received that he took the group private, making it available only to registered members.
He also stated that if he discovered that a ‘birfer,’ as forums members refer to birthers, had managed to join the group, he would ban them as soon as he discovered their ideological stance.
But sources who follow the forum state that a much darker aspect of the site has emerged in light of recent disclosures. One prominent member of Fogbow issued a direct threat to a conservative who had been targeted by the group. This prompted an alert to be sent to law enforcement.
In addition, another prominent member of the group issued threats of rape and sexual assault against another conservative who had been targeted. The threat contained vile and disgusting language that is usually indicative of a deranged personality, language that is often used by hardened rapists while engaged in their despicable acts of violence.
When Conservative Examiner noted in a previous article that certain Leftwing groups connected to Neal Rauhauser were engaged in a child pornography and pedophilia ring, members of Fogbow howled with protest that the writer had implied their group was guilty of the same behavior. Such a charge was false. The reference to Rauhauser’s groups was intended to provide context to the conservative charge that the Left is regularly engaged in the most despicable activity aimed at causing direct harm to innocent citizens within the Tea Party.
Despite their protests to the contrary, however, at least one of the members of Fogbow engaged in precisely the same behavior as reported concerning the Rauhauser groups.
Threats of rape, bodily harm, disparaging one’s children, sexually assaulting those children, cannot be tolerated in civil society. Conservatives do not engage in such behavior, not even when they respond to attacks by issuing strongly-worded smack-downs against Leftists who engage in such inflammatory vitriol.
The Left, therefore, continues its descent into the sewer of society, demonstrating that they belong on the extremist fringe and not in the mainstream of American politics.
Be sure to catch my blog at The Liberty Sphere.
One good comment…
Tom 23 hours ago
Not a link, quote, image or source showing anything close to actual evidence of anything. Nice work, Anthony. Do you have to go to school to learn how to produce such pitiful rubbish?
The Post and Fail is now in love with soon to be felon Cao…
The title of the article says it all….
The Post & Email Speaks with “New Speaker of the House’” Theresa Cao
The do use the following quote but attempt to almost immedately discredit it…
“”In response to Cao’s interruption in his reading, Pallone reportedly stated, “I mean it’s a fact that he’s a natural born citizen, so I think it’s just inappropriate for people to keep raising it. The problem is the people that keep raising it want to go against the facts…I think that was an example of this phenomenon today. There’s nothing he can do to make it go away because they just don’t want to face the facts.”
“No proof that Obama meets the definition of “natural born Citizen” has been presented, and Obama himself has stated that he was born with dual citizenship, so questions remain about his eligibility. More than a year ago, Obama had reportedly spent close to $2,000,000 to keep his records hidden, and more lawsuits have been filed since then.”
Cao asks that readers, friends, and anyone concerned about the nation and world “pray that God will be glorified in regard to the arraignment and its outcome” tomorrow. She requested that three specific sections of the Bible be studied and shared:
Psalm 2
Acts IV, verses 24-31
Psalm 97, which declares God’s sovereignty
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/18/the-post-email-speaks-with-new-speaker-of-the-house-theresa-cao/
And yet nothing there of substance on the arraignment, her plea and defense, comments from the court, her court date or the alleged press conference afterwards.
The in-fighting among birthers in the comments is pretty funny though. The birther “Jedi” got smacked around.
However, I was right about the “press conference” and Bob Unruh of Whirled Nuts.
Memo to Congress: It’s called freedom of speech
Defense counsel takes on case of woman arrested for gallery comment
By Bob Unruh
The woman who burst out with “except Obama” when New Jersey Democratic Rep. Frank Pallone was reading in Congress the Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born Citizen” was simply exercising her free speech rights, according to a law team representing her.
“This case is not about President Obama’s eligibility for office or Theresa Cao’s affiliation with the birther movement – it’s about free speech in its purest sense,” said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute.
Whitehead told WND he’s helping Cao defend against charges she violated a congressional code against conduct intended to impede, disrupt or disturb sessions of Congress, for which she faces potential fines of up to $500 and/or six months in jail.
“The sad irony here is that Ms. Cao was arrested for exercising her constitutional right to free speech at the very moment that Congress was making a show of reading aloud the Constitution,” Whitehead said.
“One can’t help but wonder whether Congress actually understood anything that they read,” he said.
As WND reported, Cao was arrested Jan. 6 by Capitol police, given a court date and then released. She told WND in a telephone interview after her release, while she was standing in front of the Hart Office Building near the Capitol, that the only hope for the United States is a return to the faith of the Founding Fathers.
And that direction, she said, is opposite from the one Obama is leading the nation. Cao contends Obama is moving America toward “socialism,” citing his health-care plan and the takeover of private banks, insurance companies and car companies.
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She said she had come to the U.S. House chambers to see the launch of the new Congress under the leadership of the Republicans. She was overwhelmed, she said, when the Constitution was being read, which came about as part of an effort by the new GOP majority to return the nation to its founding principles.
Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J., was reading Article II, Section 1, regarding the requirement that the president be a “natural born Citizen,” when she burst out, “Except Obama.”
“Literally if this question of the natural born citizenship, if this question does not get answered, then I am allowing a tyrannical dictator – the spirit of the anti-Christ, the new world order system that has their plans right this second to collapse the U.S. economy, and we know their plan, the new world order system’s plan is to literally destroy humanity,” she told WND at the time.
Whitehead told WND it’s a troubling sign of the times in the U.S. when someone is arrested for saying a couple of words when the response from the House was a much greater disruption.
The Rutherford Institute statement said the House was engaged in the “symbolic gesture” of reading the Constitution “to acknowledge that the United States is a nation of laws, not men.”
Cao told WND she obtained tickets for the House gallery a day before the Jan. 6 event. She was hoping the GOP majority would be dedicated to doing the “will of the people” after California Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s tenure as speaker, which included pushing through Obamacare even though a majority of Americans oppose it.
It was almost a year ago when Cao was profiled in WND as a lone woman evangelist delivering the message that “heaven is offering a ‘bailout’ far greater than dollars.”
At the time, Cao told WND, “I have a standard location literally right in front of the White House” – encouraging people to follow the Bible to see God’s miracles on earth and its companion warning of punishment for those who disobey.”
The message applies not only to individuals but to nations, she believes.
“Most Americans really are asleep concerning what’s taking place,” she said then. “People are willing to hand over their God-given rights and the Constitution to the prevailing wicked forces.”
Cao has her ministry work posted at GotHeavensBailout.blogspot.com.
The reading of the Constitution was described by Dahlia Lithwick of Slate.com as a “fetish” in her article, “Read It and Weep: How the tea party’s fetish for the Constitution as written may get it in trouble.”
“The way some people rub Buddha and they think the magic will come off, I think there’s a longstanding tradition in this country. We’re awfully religious about the Constitution,” she later told MSNBC. “I think there is this sort of fetishization that is of a piece with the sort of need for a religious document that’s immutable and perfect in every way.”
Syndicated columnist and commentator Charles Krauthammer said on Fox News that the objection to reading the Constitution aloud by many on the left “is truly astonishing.”
He said that in the 1960s, “Liberals got in trouble for being on the wrong side of the flag,” and are now in danger of being on the wrong side of the Constitution, which he called “the essence of America.”
For liberals to think there’s an advantage in dismissing the public reading of the document “is real bad politics,” Krauthammer said.
WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”
Some of the challenges question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father. Some assert he was born a dual citizen because he father was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
Obama wrote in his own book that he was born a dual citizen of the U.S. and Great Britain due to the fact his father was a subject of the British crown.
Several of the cases have been appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, but justices have declined even to hear arguments. Among the other cases turned down without a hearing at the high court have been petitions by Mario Apuzzo, Philip Berg, Cort Wrotnowski, Leo Donofrio and Orly Taitz.
Complicating the issue is Obama’s decision to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.
(source: Farah’s Cesspool)
I have no doubt whatsoever that if a “liberal protester” had shouted down a Republican and dsirupted the House, WND would have declared it an outrageous crime of disrespect and political terrorism.
Birther, thy name is hypocrite.
Will, I couldn’t agree with you more….WND would write a great profile and support Lucifer if he was somehow against Obama….That is how far their Obama derangement goes….
As for Orly, below is her newest rant….
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/01/obama_orly_taitz_birther_foggy.php#comments
“Is a crazed former Orly Taitz patient who may be violent, used to be a lawyer, is now a florist, may need boner pills, may or may not be from the Valley, more than likely resides in Lake Forest or Coto de Caza, and goes by the nickname “Foggy” when he is not going by the nickname “Captain Cock” stalking the dentist/lawyer/real-estate saleswoman/birther queen?
The latest chatter at orlytaitzesq.com would indicate “yes” to the stalking claim, cyber- or otherwise.
And, in light of the recent Arizona massacre, Taitz would like her web-savvy followers to help her find this mad man “so he can be referred to a psychiatrist and so that he can get help that he needs.”
​”This man is mentally unstable,” the Aliso Viejo resident writes in her most recent Foggy post. “Look at his ramblings. The name he got for himself ‘Captain Cock.’ This man sounds like he suffers from some type of psychosis, from some sexual mental dysfunction mixed with potential violence. Why would you want to hide this man’s identity? You’ve seen what a crazy man did in Arizona. Do you want something like this on your conscience? Please, disclose this man’s name.”
The comments eviserate her and borderraven, who decided to comment with his usual nonsense….
This was one which was good…
trent1280 1 day ago
This poor woman’s lunacy gets more extreme every day. Now, she claims to have her own personal stalker. Why is it that nut cases so often attract the attention of other nut cases?
The crackpot Taitz has an enviable record. She has lost EVERY court case she has attempted to bring in this matter — most recently at the US Supreme Court, which declined to hear her at all.
Her reaction to her latest defeat? Taitz announced that she was going to ‘appeal’ to some sort of international court. This dunce does not understand our law. In our system, there IS no court superior to the US Supreme Court. It’s the end of the line.
However, her efforts to go “above” that court demonstrate two things: she is incompetent. She is disloyal.
What a very bad lawyer she is, and what a very bad citizen. No wonder she attracts the support of her fellow crackpots and, it would seem, her very own stalker. Keep it up, Orly. You become more and more discreditable every time you open your silly mouth.
Something like . . . He’s (and whoever they decide “he” is for their convenience) only evil as the left hand of the all powerful, or fallen leftist, meaning evil liberal. Once he renounces the evil left and accepts the superiority of the right hand, the conservative, good and peaceful side will prevail and harmony will be restored.
Interesting post over at the Post and Fail….
Hotlanta Mike says:
Thursday, January 20, 2011 at 9:48 AM
Sharon,
Thank you for your ongoing efforts to get to the truth, which journalism is all about and what journalists must strive to achieve.
Related to Hawaii is other but equally important investigative work as to how Obama managed to get on the state’s ballot in 2008 allegedly without having to provide tangible proof of being constitutionally qualified for the office he was seeking.
As a result of his investigation (and others) Pen Johannsen at The Daily Pen had some specific questions for Congress, although a lot of them seem appropriately addressed to the Big Kahuna in Hawaii.
QUESTIONS FOR CONGRESS
QUESTION 1: Why, after including the legally required language for previous Democratic candidates in elections past, did chairperson, Brian Schatz and the Democrat Party of Hawaii, refuse to include the legally required language upon submitting it for the approval of that state party’s 2008 Official Certification of Nomination when they submitted it to Kevin B. Cronin and the Hawaiian Election Commission?
QUESTION 2: Did Kevin Cronin, Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer in 2008, approve the placement of Barack Obama’s name on the presidential ballot for the 2008 federal election, in spite of the fact that explicit language stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to run for president was omitted from the Official Certification of Nomination submitted by the Democrat Party of Hawaii?
QUESTION 3: Did Kevin Cronin, Chief Elections Officer, in coordination with the Hawaiian Election Commission, and HRS 11-113 (1)(d), notify Barack Obama in writing, of his eligibility or disqualification for placement on the Hawaiian presidential ballot and what date did he provide this notification?
QUESTION 4: If a notice of disqualification was sent to Obama, upon receiving this notice from the Hawaiian Elections Commission, did Barack Obama file a request, per HRS 11-113 (1)(e), in writing to Mr. Cronin and what date did he submit this request?
QUESTION 5: Did Cronin schedule Obama to a hearing and what date was this hearing scheduled?
QUESTION 6: Where was Obama between October 20th and 24th, 2008?
QUESTION 7: Was Obama present in Hawaii during the time when a hearing was conducted with the Hawaiian Elections Commission regarding his disqualification from the 2008 Hawaiian Presidential ballot?
QUESTION 8: Why did the Democratic National Committee author two separate Official Certifications of Nomination for Barack Obama, sending one version to Hawaii but not the other 49 states?
QUESTION 9: Did The DNC send two separate versions of its OCON to the Hawaiian Election Commission, and if so, why did it do this?
QUESTION 10: What secret evidence, which was obviously not accessible to the Democrat Party of Hawaii (the very state Obama was born in), did Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Committee acquire to determine Barack Obama’s legal qualifications to serve under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution and, thereby, include such language in its OCON?
QUESTION 11: When it was determined that the state and national party authorities of the Democratic Party did not agree on the status of Barack Obama’s eligibility, did the Chief Elections Officer of Hawaii, Kevin Cronin, determine to include Obama on the Hawaii presidential election ballot with authority provided by HRS 11-113(b).
QUESTION 12: What documented evidence was used by the DNC, which was not available to the Democrat Party of Hawaii, to determine that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution?
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/19/open-letter-to-hawaii-gov-neil-abercrombie/#comments
Well, it looks like it only took a little over two years for the birthers to start fleshing out the details of their fictional version of history. Sven should be jealous…this particular dude is getting closer to penning his fantasy novel and has now succeeded in making up a plot with a rough flow to it…
Definately….You should see the letter Sharon sent to Abercrombie on the vacation thread….It was some delusional stuff….
Oh yeah, I saw it…truly delusional.
BL – Thanks as always for weeding through the cesspool and bringing us these updates. I’ve read all the recent ones you’ve posted on all the threads here.
No problem…Sharon is delusional….
More Post and Fail jumor…
“During the holiday season, we are supposed to hang mistletoe, not U.S. Army officers. But this last Christmas season, the Obama regime sentenced highly-decorated U.S. Army surgeon Col. Terry Lakin to six months in prison and dismissed him from the Army without pay. After 18 years of honorable service to our nation, Lakin was also stripped of all his military benefits. Terry Lakin is now behind bars at Ft. Leavenworth.
Col. Lakin had refused redeployment orders to Afghanistan because of Obama’s inability to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be the President. Col. Lakin stated that he would report for duty immediately upon the release of Obama’s long-form birth certificate.
Didn’t Obama promise us that transparency would be the cornerstone of his administration? Didn’t Obama release top- secret CIA documents that endangered the USA’s national security? But rather than simply release his long-form birth certificate, Barack Obama sent Col. Terry Lakin to Leavenworth Military Prison three days before Christmas.
Col. Lakin is married and has three children ages 3, 8 and 11. Terry’s devastated wife Pili is also a doctor.
America’s Super Bowl Questions for Obama
1.What was the name of the hospital in Hawaii in which Obama was born?
2.What was the name of the doctor who delivered Obama?
3.Why is the “Certification of Live Birth” that Obama has offered for his Constitutional eligibility to be the President of the United States dated August 8, 1961, four days after the day Obama was allegedly born on August 4, 1961?
4.Why has Obama spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to fight the release of his birth certificate?
5.Why did Obama send a decorated US Army officer to prison when he could have been TRANSPARENT, put his birth certificate on C- Span and resolved the matter peacefully?
Merry Christmas from Resident Barack Obama
The Facts
Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” could have been obtained by an “in person” report from his grandparents.
The address given in the Hawaiian newspaper announcement of Obama’s birth was the home of his grandparents, NOT a hospital.
The newly-elected Democratic Governor of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie, announced that he has conducted a thorough investigation and search but, alas, he cannot find Obama’s hospital-generated, long-form birth certificate anywhere on record in the State of Hawaii.
The Emperor has no clothes on and no one in the media will say a word! Where are the journalists?
We Americans need the House of Representatives to launch an immediate and full scale Congressional Investigation in order to answer all these vital national questions. Examine Barack Obama’s legitimacy to be President and make Obama undergo the same intense scrutiny for Presidential eligibility that John McCain underwent. Obama and the Democrats should welcome this investigation after all: “Honest men have nothing to hide.”
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/23/obamas-christmas-lynching/
Mrs. Rondeau replies: If we could get a federal grand jury to hear Lakin’s case, perhaps they would do their constitutional duty…perhaps a grand jury in Kansas?