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Secret Services exercises restraint dealing with deranged birthers

In my mind, somebody has to be nutty as a fruitcake to think that they could just waltz up to the President of the United States and arrest him. Nevertheless Kansas birther Neil Jednoralski publicly announced that he was going to do just that.

Is Jednoralski  in jail? After all, threatening the President is a crime. Is he in a FEMA camp? No. The Secret Service just took his guns and handcuffs away, and said they would arrest him if he came close to the President.

This from Dave Edwards at The Raw Story. See this comment for more background on Jednoralski. Local news coverage here.

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35 Responses to Secret Services exercises restraint dealing with deranged birthers

  1. avatar
    Sean December 9, 2011 at 9:55 pm #

    Wait. Let me get this straight. I can’t just simply walk up to a sitting US President and put him under arrest?

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    El Diablo Negro December 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm #

    oh nos!!! Obama took his GUUUUUUUNNNSSS!!!

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    G December 10, 2011 at 12:35 am #

    If you search and find a video of Neil Jednoralski explaining himself… his speech patterns and dull stare in his eyes really come across as someone who is “not too quick on the take”, to put it politely. Ok, let’s be blunt. The term “dimwit” exists for a reason…and he’s a poster boy example of such.

    Further, he’s a walking stereotype of the current RWNJ profile. He’s really got nearly all the boxes checked there. White male senior citizen – check. Tea Partier – check. Tie to Oathkeepers – check. Birther – check. Sells gun equipment for a living – check. Leader of his local chapter of Glen Beck’s 9/12 movement – check….

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    Majority Will December 10, 2011 at 2:29 am #

    In 2012, we’ll see quite a few more idiot birthers end up behind bars where some of them belong.

    Time and again, birther bigots demonstrate zero respect for the law.

    Being slow and dim witted as the birther trolls here so spectacularly demonstrate, is no excuse.

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    mimi December 10, 2011 at 2:53 am #

    Secret Service took his picture. He’ll be watched.

    If you check his twitter timeline, you’ll come across the following tweet from Oct 7:

    “I just bought: ‘Killing Lincoln: The Shocking Assassination that Changed America Forever’ by… via @amazon

    7 Oct”

    https://twitter.com/#!/Jednoralski

    When you’re there, you might want to follow the link to his business site provided in his twitter bio. He sells rifle scopes and ammo. He does not (yet) have a license to sell firearms, though it sounds like he wants one.

    From a story in the salina journal, we learn that he had the handcuffs he bought for the occasion monogrammed.

    http://www.saljournal.com/news/story/Jednoralski-final

    He’s an oathkeeper, the leader of the salina 912 project, a teabagger, and he ran for congress. He would have gone, but he has these husky dogs and was worried about who would care for them if he got arrested.

    In Swensson-like fashion, he was waiting on a group of people he was sure would join him.

    The only reason Secret Service visited him is because he emailed the Kansas Attorney General’s Office and they called the Secret Service.

    I believe they will be keeping an eye on him. Good.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 10, 2011 at 8:40 am #

    Thanks, mimi, for the additional information and links.

    mimi: If you check his twitter timeline, …

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    JD Reed December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am #

    Well, I think the Secret Service’s seecret about threats on the president is that there are so many (at least veiled) threats on the president that to prosecute and then imprison all those convicted would mean the federal criminal justice system would have to shut down for any other business, and the federal prisons would eventually have no room for counterfeiters and bank robbers.

    You may recall one William Mattison of Amarillo, Texas, who emailed his congressman that he was “considering” assassinating Mr. Obama. He was questioned by the feds, but at this date more than a year later, I have not heard a word about any charges or prosecution. And I don’t expect to.

    So, I suspect, these terrorists– fot that’s what they are, by their actions seeking to arouse terror — I conjecture are placed on a watch list. I kinda suspect that they’re also placed on no-fly lists so they can’t radidly make their way across country. I certainly hope so. I’d even place them on a no-ride list so that Greyhound wouldn’t allow them on board.

  8. avatar
    US Citizen December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm #

    mimi: He would have gone, but he has these husky dogs and was worried about who would care for them if he got arrested.

    Because arresting the world’s most powerful leader- a supposed Marxist, socialist, usurper and fraud- finding a dog sitter is more difficult and a higher priority.

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    The Magic M December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm #

    US Citizen: Because arresting the world’s most powerful leader- a supposed Marxist, socialist, usurper and fraud- finding a dog sitter is more difficult and a higher priority.

    My thoughts exactly. They always find an excuse. Like, dunno, they don’t actually believe in the crap they’re talking.
    Then again, let’s be glad they all can just talk the talk and are too scared to walk the walk…

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    y_p_w December 11, 2011 at 2:10 am #

    JD Reed:
    Well, I think the Secret Service’s seecret about threats on the president is that there are so many (at least veiled) threats on the president that to prosecute and then imprison all those convicted would mean the federal criminal justice system would have to shut down for any other business, and the federal prisons would eventually have no room for counterfeiters and bank robbers.

    I remember a few years back when a student reporter at UC Berkeley’s student newspaper got a little carried away with how he imagined the school might celebrate a football victory – to “Show your spirit over (Clinton daughter) Chelsea’s bloodied carcass” along with information on the location of her dorm.

    http://articles.sfgate.com/1997-11-26/news/17761611_1_chelsea-clinton-special-agent-two-agents

    This young man got a nice little visit from a couple of Secret Service field agents. I’m not surprised, but in the end they were just following orders even if they didn’t think it was a serious threat.

  12. avatar
    G December 11, 2011 at 4:14 am #

    As they should! On matters as serious as threatening the lives of the leadership of our nation, it is wise to remind fools that even their words can have serious consequences. Even if only to serve as a very serious reminder to be more careful and think before shooting their mouth off in the future.

    y_p_w: This young man got a nice little visit from a couple of Secret Service field agents. I’m not surprised, but in the end they were just following orders even if they didn’t think it was a serious threat.

  13. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn December 11, 2011 at 5:50 am #

    I hope the SS doesn’t end up believing all these threats lack substance. It would be a way to go under the radar to act like a birther (or even be one), make the claims knowing nothing will happen, so they can do worse behind the scenes. If you have seen it, think of “It’s Your Funeral” from the Prisoner.

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    bovril December 11, 2011 at 9:16 am #

    Lets step back and look at Birfoonistan for a moment…..

    The primary characteristic of ts inhabitants, other than racism, stupidity, cowardice and outright feckwit muppetry, is incompetence.

    How any of them manage to put their shoes on the correct feet in the morning I do not know and strongly suspect they only use said footwear with velcro fafstening as shoelaces will be plainly too intellectually challenging.

    As such, the Secret Service will, as with all putative threats, rate them based on a probable risk matrix.

    99% will get a visit from local law enforcement, half the rest will get an FBI agent and the egregious ones the Secret Service.

    Once they stop wetting themselves in abject fear they will tone down the rhetoric and drop out of sight for a while before convincing themselves that they weren’t actully skeered nd start the cycle again.

    An example of the cycle is Theresa Cao and her outbreak in Congess, arrested, refused to accept the consequences of her actions so gets, charged, tried, convicted and placed in supervised probation. Quiet as the grave until her probation period expired and is now tentatively putting her feet back into Birfing.

    The REAL concerns are not these low IQ, loud mouthed, incompetent fools with their ANY….DAY….NOW moments (see KBOA ad-nauseum), it;s the quiet, ideologically driven, sociopaths fed on the cack provided by their incompetent fellow travelers that are the worry and that the SS will be trying to track.

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy December 11, 2011 at 9:24 am #

    And as we know from studies, lack of competence is a characteristic of those who overrate their competence. I think KBOA is a good example of that with her recent video which she feels exudes quality and competence, when actually just the opposite.

    bovril: The primary characteristic of ts inhabitants, other than racism, stupidity, cowardice and outright feckwit muppetry, is incompetence.

  16. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn December 11, 2011 at 9:36 am #

    Once again, I recommend “It’s Your Funeral.”

  17. avatar
    KenyanBornObama December 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm #

    CENSOR CENSOR CENSOR

    Muuaaahhhhhhhhh
    I’m gonna get U sucka!

    [This blog uses a third party spam filter which normally works very well; however, for some reason it decided to mark a number of your comments as spam. Because there are rarely any legitimate comments flagged as spam, I don’t review them frequently. I just now discovered a large number of comments in the spam queue and I will approve appropriate ones.

    However, some of your comments are threatening. You know that’s against the rules. So I am going to approve all of the non-threatening comments and then I am going to ban you for life for the threats. Don’t bother trying to comment again. You are not welcome here. Doc.]

  18. avatar
    Rob A December 11, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: And as we know from studies, lack of competence is a characteristic of those who overrate their competence

    Here is study illustrating Dr C’s point:

    http://www.aacc.org/publications/cln/2011/january/Pages/The%20Competence-Confidence%20Conundrum.aspx

  19. avatar
    misha December 11, 2011 at 2:45 pm #

    This is a real danger. Orly is trying to incite a lone wolf, and she knows exactly what to say, and whom to say it to.

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    Bran Mak Morn December 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm #

    Exactly, misha – and the lone wolf will look like every other crazy birther until too late.

  21. avatar
    Keith December 11, 2011 at 3:28 pm #

    bovril: How any of them manage to put their shoes on the correct feet in the morning I do not know and strongly suspect they only use said footwear with velcro fafstening as shoelaces will be plainly too intellectually challenging.

    I would say you are giving them too much credit to be able to work Velcro, slip-ons are more their speed. They probably get their bunny ear slippers from Walmart and eschew loafers as to elitist, of course.

    The problem with that argument is that I could be dissing myself. I wore nothing but slip-ons for almost 3 years until I could get time to take a break from work and get my hip fixed. Of course I did wear loafers and sneakers and sandals and occasionally thongs, but never bunny ear slippers 😎

  22. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny December 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm #

    Why are so many birfers of Polish descent? Do they know that the chance that they also have Polish citizenship is rather high?

    On the other hand, this guy should have concentrated on finding his relatives in Poland.

    http://boards.ancestrylibrary.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=4&p=surnames.jednoralski

  23. avatar
    misha December 11, 2011 at 5:57 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Why are so many birfers of Polish descent?

    Vodka.

  24. avatar
    misha December 11, 2011 at 6:04 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Why are so many birfers of Polish descent?

    misha: Vodka.

    My maternal grandmother was from Białystok.

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    Paul Pieniezny December 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm #

    misha:
    My maternal grandmother was from Białystok.

    Historically, Białystok was only 40% Polish, 30% Belarusian and Russian, 20% Jewish and 10% Dontknows.

    How were you able to type that ł, by the way? You know that makes you very suspect in birfers’ eyes …

  26. avatar
    realist December 11, 2011 at 7:14 pm #

    @bovril…

    “An example of the cycle is Theresa Cao and her outbreak in Congess, arrested, refused to accept the consequences of her actions so gets, charged, tried, convicted and placed in supervised probation. Quiet as the grave until her probation period expired and is now tentatively putting her feet back into Birfing.”

    Your point is well taken in your post, but Theresa was never tried, never convicted and was never on probation. She entered a stet program and upon successful completion of whatever the terms were the DA nolle pros’d her.

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    bovril December 11, 2011 at 8:13 pm #

    Realist,

    Thanks for the correction on the detais, with Birfoons the utter number of their screw ups tends to obscure stuff… 😎

    Would I be correct that the EFFECTS were, in their process the same as supervised release.. be good, don’t break the law AGAIN, act like a response adult or go back in front of the judge and receive a more serious slap.

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    misha December 12, 2011 at 2:20 am #

    Paul Pieniezny: Historically, Białystok was only 40% Polish, 30% Belarusian and Russian, 20% Jewish

    I thought you might be interested in this: http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm

  29. avatar
    Keith December 12, 2011 at 3:01 am #

    misha: I thought you might be interested in this: http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm

    Also this: The Producers

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    Paul Pieniezny December 12, 2011 at 8:29 am #

    misha: I thought you might be interested in this: http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm

    To be fair

    1) the figures I quoted were the numbers when the Russian Empire took control of Białystok – because the Russians forbade new Jewish settlement outside of the “pale”, Jewish migration to the cities was concentrated on places such as Białystok, Odessa and Kishinev, which were within the pale, During the first 50 years of Russian rule, the population of Białystok quadrupled, and Jews made up two thirds of the population before WW I, After that war, Belarusians, Russians and Russian-speaking Jews left the town, so that when the nazis came Jews had been reduced to slightly less than half of the population, Today there are no Jews in Białystok, but the town is still rather multicultural for a town in Poland, mainly due to the very large number of Polish-speaking Orthodox Christians, the Dontknows of olden days,

    2) since you know how to type Polish letters, in Polish it is wódka (to be pronounced “voodkah”), And yes, Neil should watch out – I know what I am talking about. And the bad news is, if it does not take you out, it destroys brain cells. However few you still have to lose,

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) December 12, 2011 at 10:17 am #

    misha: Vodka.

    You mean Awesome Water?

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) December 12, 2011 at 10:19 am #

    Paul Pieniezny: Why are so many birfers of Polish descent? Do they know that the chance that they also have Polish citizenship is rather high?On the other hand, this guy should have concentrated on finding his relatives in Poland.http://boards.ancestrylibrary.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=4&p=surnames.jednoralski

    One of my ex’s was polish right after the election she said something about oh he might not really be president because he wasn’t born here. I turned to her and said that’s completely false he was born in Hawaii, he showed his birth certificate and that was pretty much it. Somehow her family had talked about it though so it does make me wonder.

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    J. Potter December 12, 2011 at 1:41 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): You mean Awesome Water?

    That is awesome! new to me, maybe I don’t get out enough. Surprised there isn’t already a product by that name …. is there? I guess the FDA might have something to say about using the word “water” in the brand name of a distilled spirit. Even if it is part distilled water.

    On topic, the threats to guard against are the ones competent enough, disciplined enough, to keep quiet. Very hard to count those.

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    1% Silver Nitrate December 12, 2011 at 2:25 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: .How were you able to type that ł, by the way? You know that makes you very suspect in birfers’ eyes …

    I recommend the website http://www.typeit.org/ , which lets you type with your regular American English keyboard & insert the special characters from 22 different languages (e.g., Polish – …ćęłńóśźż’„”) & then copy & paste the text into another message block – like I’ve just done here. Also available, symbols & currency characters.

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    Thrifty December 14, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny:
    Why are so many birfers of Polish descent? Do they know that the chance that they also have Polish citizenship is rather high?

    On the other hand, this guy should have concentrated on finding his relatives in Poland.

    http://boards.ancestrylibrary.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=4&p=surnames.jednoralski

    There’s a “Poles are stupid” joke in there somewhere.