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Birther ballot challenges: big loss in Virginia

Judges across the country are weighing in on the the question of Presidential eligibility in the wake of a bevy of birther challenges to the 2012 candidates.

In Virginia, Charles Tisdale filed such a challenge in federal court against not only Barack Obama, but also Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. The results were embarrassing for the birthers, as Judge John A. Gibney, Jr., United States District Judge for the Eastern District for Virginia wrote, dismissing the case that alleged the candidates were ineligible because of their parents’ citizenship:

It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.

The judicial comments are piling up (with similar decisions in Illinois and Georgia) and they are not friendly to the likes of Donofrio,  Taitz, Hatfield, Irion and Apuzzo.

 

Tisdale v Obama et al

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10 Responses to Birther ballot challenges: big loss in Virginia

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    Reality Check February 6, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    Before I saw this article I commented on the GA thread that this would be the perfect case for Mario to represent Charles Tisdale on and appeal (pro bono). I left a comment at Mario’s blog suggesting that. Maybe he could team up with Leo Donofrio to form Dream Team II (Dream Team I was Leo and the Pidge). I predict it will not happen. Mario is not up to the ridicule that would follow the inevitable loss.

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    Lupin February 6, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    Reality Check:
    Before I saw this article I commented on the GA thread that this would be the perfect case for Mario to represent Charles Tisdale on and appeal (pro bono). I left a comment at Mario’s blog suggesting that. Maybe he could team up with Leo Donofrio to form Dream Team II (Dream Team I was Leo and the Pidge). I predict it will not happen. Mario is not up to the ridicule that would follow the inevitable loss.

    Mario is being paid as a propagandist, not to fight doomed court battles.

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    DP February 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    Just one more traitorous judge succumbing to Chicago style politics in the bizarre fantasy land that is Birtherstan (with apologies to all those former Soviet Republics).

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    Paul Pieniezny February 6, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    Lupin, you missed something great.

    At the end of the big paragraph on page 2: “are not eligible to be President due to THEIR”, wait for it: “nationalitIES”.

    Don’t you get it? Two Vattellite plurals!

    Judge John Gibeney is conceding that at least two of the three defendants have more than one nationality. As the birfers would say, they are “duel” citizens.

    This is great news for the birfers. Yes, Mario should go and represent Mr Tisdale, and prove that duel citizens cannot be NBC.

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    G February 6, 2012 at 1:29 pm #

    Exactly. Those hacks know that they are DOA in any real world legal situation. All they can do is pretend they are somebody by playing hack propagandist on the internet and preaching to the already converted.

    Too bad they lack the self-awareness to realize that, in the big picture, they are simply just more irrelevant than ever. By simply hiding in their comfy little virtual Cult grounds, surrounded with their already brainwashed gullible flock to fluff them, they are nothing more than the blind leading the already blind over a cliff of insignificance…

    Lupin: Mario is being paid as a propagandist, not to fight doomed court battles.

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    Tomas February 6, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    Someone sent me this article and I thought Doc and all his friends might enjoy it..

    http://libertylegalfoundation.org/1725/georgia-court-ignored-basic-rules-of-interpretation/

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    Daniel February 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

    Tomas:
    Someone sent me this article and I thought Doc and all his friends might enjoy it..

    http://libertylegalfoundation.org/1725/georgia-court-ignored-basic-rules-of-interpretation/

    yes quite funny indeed

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    G February 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm #

    Yeah, that article is from one of the organizations behind this whole Birther legal effort in GA in the first place.

    From their very first paragraph, you can see some of where their true “issues” lie:

    By now many of you have probably heard that the Georgia court ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen. More importantly it ruled that any person born on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen. According to the Georgia court, a woman from any country can visit the U.S. for one day, give birth, take the baby back to any country to be raised under any culture, and that baby can return as an adult, live here for 14 years and run for President.

    Which should simply register as *DUH* to most folks. If that wasn’t always true, the whole contentious issue of some folks being upset about “anchor babies” wouldn’t have existed in the first place. If anything, that very issue, which has been a source of ire for many, is proof that the default position has always been born on US soil = NBC all along. All this parent citizen requirement nonsense is a myth created by Birthers in response to Obama’s election…but also as a revisionist way for them to push xenophobia.

    Sorry folks, regardless of your positions on “anchor babies”, they have always been NBC. There is nothing new here in GA’s ruling that changes the status quo. It only reaffirms it.

    Folks need to learn the difference between simply not liking how our existing laws work and childishly trying to pretend they don’t exist. For those who don’t like it, then push for a Constitutional Amendment. That’s the only legitmate avenue if you want to change the law to add restrictions that simply are not and have not been there.

    Tomas: Someone sent me this article and I thought Doc and all his friends might enjoy it..http://libertylegalfoundation.org/1725/georgia-court-ignored-basic-rules-of-interpretation/

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    Bob February 7, 2012 at 7:49 am #

    Interview at noon Eastern time with author:

    Fear and Loathing on the Populist Right

    ?From “Birthers” who claim that President Obama was not born in the United States to those who believe that the Constitution is in danger of being replaced with Sharia law, conspiratorial beliefs have become increasingly common in our public discourse. Arthur Goldwag explores the ideas and rhetoric that have animated extreme, mostly right-wing movements throughout American history. His new book is The New Hate: A History of Fear and Loathing on the Populist Right.?

    For those unfamiliar with this program it is not a political talk show. The interview will last about a half hour and will be archived.

    ?LINK

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    Bob February 7, 2012 at 7:50 am #

    ^I don’t know where the “?” came from^ That’s the correct link.