Not pausing long enough to read what it’s for, Orly Taitz DDS, Esq., the Energizer Bunny of fantasy fraud filers, has fronted yet another frivolous complaint, this time on a form reserved for election process grievances under the Help America Vote Act (HAVA). HAVA deals with election facilities and voting formalities, not candidates for office. Orly, however, filled out a HAVA complaint against Barack Obama, claiming that he is not eligible because he has a fraudulent Connecticut social-security number. Oh, and in addition to the form she forwarded 208 pages of exhibits. (Poor trees.)
I have a fondness for Indiana, and not just because their appeals court rebuffed the Birthers in the Ankeny v. Governor case. I’ve spent some time in Marion County, did some professional work there, enjoyed some good meals and enjoyed a little recreation. So here’s a shout out to the Hoosier State and my offer of sympathy that Orly is bugging you. I offer some advice:
The circular file is on the left.
UPDATE:
Orly Taitz reports that the State of Indiana has told her that she used the wrong form and sent it the wrong place. [Link to Taitz web site]
Orly got the following response from HAVA,
Dear Mz Taitz
Our trash bins were all filled so we had to flush your request in our toilet, thank you for your interest and please don’t come back.
You have to wonder why the Notary went along with this stunt.
He was paid to do it.
Because she paid the $5. Heh. Nah, she probably knows a notary. She is a lawyer …. well, maybe not.
Doc, my circular file is on the right. 😉
Heh. Mine is behind me. On the left.
But when I turn around to use it, its on the right.
What to do? What to do?
It’s $10 in California. That’s the maximum statutory amount that a notary can charge in California for a single signture. And that’s pretty much what they all charge. I tried comparison shopping, and couldn’t find a single notary service that didn’t charge the maximum allowed fee.
I did manage to get something notarized without paying the fee once. A loan officer was also a notary.
Hit the one in the middle 😉
From their perspective, it’s like a maximum wage. Ouch!
What if your notarizations are prettier than everyone else? What’s the incentive?
Socialism! Obama strikes again!
And, after it gets denied, she can ask for reconsideration based on this new evidence:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp
i’m a notary public in ny where the fee is $2 – i have never taken a dime
Maybe Fluffy became a notary.
*sigh* So sad to see such blatent frauds continuing to be perpetrated out there. But then again, Birtherism was always a fraud myth to begin with…
I found this list:
http://www.punny.org/money/maximum-notary-fees-by-state-dont-get-ripped-off-by-big-fat-notary-guys/
Some states don’t have a max fee, but say it should be “reasonable”. In Wisconsin and South Carolina, the max fee is 50 cents. I don’t think many people get into this for the money if the fee is puny. At least in states where it’s $5-10, I can imagine a business actually making some money doing this.
In California the fee is in the California Government Code, and only legislation (or maybe a voter initiative if someone really wanted to put it on the ballot) can change the amount.
I looked up notaries in Victoria Australia: Solicitors have the monopoly on Notary Services.
The (recommended) fees list:
Many trivial things that you might get notarized in the US, don’t need to be notarized in Oz.
A ‘Statutory Declaration’ is something you might prepare to provide testimony about the history of your fence line in a boundary dispute with your neighbor, or other ‘innocuous’ disputes like that. Other things like an application for a ‘Seniors Discount Card’ essentially need a stat dec to ‘swear’ that you are over 60 and not full time employed.
Such Statutory Declarations can be ‘witnessed’ by any of several classes of professionals assumed to be of upright character and good standing in the community. These professionals include Pharmacists, Bank Managers, Police Officers, Veterinarians, Solicitors, and possibly a few others. They can I believe charge just about anything they want for the service, but most charge less than $5.
The pharmacist that I go to for this service, charges ‘a gold coin’ ($1 or $2 coin) donation to the Guide Dogs. Bank Managers just about universally refuse to perform the service, except when preparing loan paperwork through their branch. I expect that Solicitors would charge like a wounded bull for the service.
just had a look at oily’s site (got a good antivirus), and she appears to be in full-blown meltdown.
from some of the comments it would seem her sycophants are going the same way.
`crazy train, now leaving from platform 1 destination birtherstan.’,
In the US, it is not the job of a notary public to check the accuracy or appropriateness of documents. Their job is to make sure that the person executing the document is who they say they are and that any oaths are duly sworn. Notaries in the US are generally not allowed to give legal advice unless they are also qualified lawyers (which most aren’t).
The situation is very different in other countries. In England and Wales, solicitors (ordinary lawyers) are also commissioners for oaths and they handle most affidavits and statutory declarations. The fees charges by notaries for any oaths, attestations, and authentications are much higher than those charged by solicitors. Generally speaking, a notary is used where there is an international dimesnion to the process and specialised advice is needed on the documentation.
Was trying to read her “Nature of Grievance” from the viewpoint of the person at the Indiana Secretary of State’s office who gets to review these. I can’t clearly discern what her grievance is. So I see an automatic REJECT on the complaint. Reading between the lines I can guess, but the complaint is supposed to be clear, not a long-winded rant. Oh, and the 208 pages of attachments are supposed to support your allegation not be needed to establish what your complaint is.
It would be so simple to write: “Barack Obama should not be on the ballot because he doesn’t meet the requirements in the Constitution for the position. Specifically, he is not a Natural Born Citizen.” Then lay out the evidence. BTW, there is no Constitutional requirement for a Social Security number so that argument just muddies the waters.
The notary is only verifying the identity of the person who signed the document. A notary doesn’t care what the document says or what its purpose is.
Taitz reports on her blog today that the Indiana Elections board has informed her that she filed the wrong form.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=31728
Called it. As did everyone else. And this means some other unfortunate piece of paper will be defaced by her scribbles! I still have the typewriter that was anonymously donated, and am willing to make her a deal.
Speaking of screwing up forms, I wonder if her dental goodies bag has tampons and hemorrhoid cream instead of floss and toothpaste samples.