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Taitz loses badly: Kreep Wins!

With 100% of the California Senate Primary vote tallied, Orly Taitz trails far behind the number two candidate, Republican Elizabeth Emken (3.1% to 12.5%). Democrat Dianne Feinstein has a commanding lead overall at 49.3%. Emken and Feinstein where the only candidates to achieve double-digit numbers. Taitz finished fifth also behind Republicans Dan Hughes (6.7%) and Rick Williams (3.3%). Emken will face Feinstein in the general election, and Taitz will face another loss for statewide office in California.

Taitz appeared on the Rick Amato radio show early this morning and she says:

I would like to take this opportunity to expose 24 corrupt CAGop board members, who sold the endorsement to Emken on the first day of the campaign and prevented me and others from addressing the county central committees. They endorsed Emken, when they had results of 2010 election, where I got 537,000 votes in my race and Emken got only 11,000 in her race. CAGOP board ran a sham endorsement process, where they charged each candidate 500 under false pretenses, when they already made a decision and told several candidates not to bother to even show up at the endorsement meeting, as the decision was already made. I was not even told that I could come to the endorsement meeting and address the board. Dirty politics as usual. a number of candidates are planning to meet and discuss further strategies, as to what to do to end this corruption on the CA GOP board.

These corrupt board members listed this endorsement in 17 million sample ballots that were sent to voters. That did the trick. The voters looked in the sample ballot at the names of party endorsed candidates and marked them. Until and unless we remove all of the corrupt party bosses and go to paper ballots, where votes can be actually counted and verified, we would never have clean elections and we would have the same corrupt puppets in positions of power destroying this country and destroying our lives.

Kreep Wins!

imageAccording to the UT San Diego Web site, birther attorney Gary Kreep in a nail-biting close race, narrowly outran challenger Garland Peed for a seat on the San Diego Superior Court. Throughout the evening, Kreep trailed in the two-man race and when 94.9% of the votes were counted, he was down by 1 full percentage point. However, as the last few votes came in, Kreep inched ahead and narrowly passed his opponent, victorious with a mere 50.01% of the vote. In an election with over a quarter million votes cast, Kreep won by 56.

Birther conspiracy theorist that he is, Gary Kreep doesn’t believe natural born citizens must have US Citizen parents. The San Diego Bar Association gave Kreep its lowest rating: “lacking qualifications;” however, commenters here at Obama Conspiracy Theories gave him the nod as the best of the birther attorneys.

Update:

My understanding is that Kreep, having received over 50% of the vote, is the winner outright and need not complete in the General Election. California Proposition 14 only applies to statewide offices. See the judgepedia.org article on the election.

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105 Responses to Taitz loses badly: Kreep Wins!

  1. avatar
    BatGuano June 6, 2012 at 1:01 am #

    even in her home county of orange, orly trails emken 4.8% to 20.7%.

  2. avatar
    alg June 6, 2012 at 1:19 am #

    Wow…Orly loses worse than anyone expected. Perhaps the Republican Party can yet be saved from eternal damnation.

  3. avatar
    richCares June 6, 2012 at 1:25 am #

    Orly says “Just now I did Rick Amato show. I told Rick that I would like to take this opportunity to expose 24 corrupt CAGop board members, who sold the endorsement to Emken on the first day of the campaign and prevented me and others from addressing the county central committees”
    poor Orly!

  4. avatar
    bgansel9 June 6, 2012 at 1:34 am #

    What are the ramifications if Gary Kreep wins?

    I am thinking that if they can’t get a judge to grant standing, perhaps his plan is to create one? Possible or am I totally wrong? (I hope it’s the latter).

  5. avatar
    Lupin June 6, 2012 at 2:34 am #

    Gary Kreep’s success would appear to mean that the local bar labeling him unqualified was ignored by the voting public. That’s rather sad.

  6. avatar
    The Magic M June 6, 2012 at 4:17 am #

    richCares: expose 24 corrupt CAGop board members, who sold the endorsement to Emken on the first day of the campaign and prevented me and others

    Cue Orly suing world+dog in 3… 2… 1…

  7. avatar
    KDLarsen June 6, 2012 at 5:39 am #

    Kreep by 56 votes.

    A sad day indeed.

  8. avatar
    KDLarsen June 6, 2012 at 5:55 am #

    bgansel9:
    What are the ramifications if Gary Kreep wins?

    I am thinking that if they can’t get a judge to grant standing, perhaps his plan is to create one? Possible or am I totally wrong? (I hope it’s the latter).

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it result in a flood of birther lawsuits, aimed at getting to the superior court and having Kreep on the bench. They want a verdict against Obama of some form, even if it’s overturned on appeal faster than they can blink, and Kreep is the man to give it to them.

  9. avatar
    Keith June 6, 2012 at 6:48 am #

    KDLarsen: I wouldn’t be surprised if it result in a flood of birther lawsuits, aimed at getting to the superior court and having Kreep on the bench. They want a verdict against Obama of some form, even if it’s overturned on appeal faster than they can blink, and Kreep is the man to give it to them.

    Surely he would HAVE to recuse himself from any such case, wouldn’t he?

  10. avatar
    KDLarsen June 6, 2012 at 7:14 am #

    Keith: Surely he would HAVE to recuse himself from any such case, wouldn’t he?

    Well, yes. It’s anyone’s guess if he’s actually going to. For the time being, the birthers will be jumping for joy that they finally have their “One honest judge”, who will read their evidence “properly”.

  11. avatar
    Northland10 June 6, 2012 at 7:15 am #

    And in the Birther Presidential Primary, Edward Noonan (Noonan v. Bowen) defeated Laurie Roth (Taitz v. Mississippi Democratic Party, et al), for the American Independent Party nomination. Roth lost despite announcing the coveted, Orly Taitz endorsement on 30 May.

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    Northland10 June 6, 2012 at 7:20 am #

    KDLarsen: Well, yes. It’s anyone’s guess if he’s actually going to. For the time being, the birthers will be jumping for joy that they finally have their “One honest judge”, who will read their evidence “properly”.

    Well, since he and Orly are not on good terms, there might not be much movement there. If I recall, he is only a BC Birther and not the 2 citizen parent version.

  13. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn June 6, 2012 at 7:25 am #

    Oh, you better believe Kreep, if he wins, will have a birther case and he will NOT recuse himself. Birthers are not ethical, remember. And you better believe he is going to give all kinds of things to birthers while in his jurisdiction; the best thing would be to ignore everything happening in his court when he doesn’t recuse himself and go directly against him.

  14. avatar
    Thrifty June 6, 2012 at 7:31 am #

    Orly loses an election, acts like a whiny child. Big surprise.

    richCares:
    Orly says “Just now I did Rick Amato show. I told Rick that I would like to take this opportunity to expose 24 corrupt CAGop board members, who sold the endorsement to Emken on the first day of the campaign and prevented me and others from addressing the county central committees”
    poor Orly!

  15. avatar
    Scientist June 6, 2012 at 7:58 am #

    Bran Mak Morn: Oh, you better believe Kreep, if he wins, will have a birther case and he will NOT recuse himself. Birthers are not ethical, remember. And you better believe he is going to give all kinds of things to birthers while in his jurisdiction; the best thing would be to ignore everything happening in his court when he doesn’t recuse himself and go directly against him.

    But this was a primary election, no? So he wouldn’t take office until after the November election, probably not until January 2013. The only birther cases that would be in state courts are ballot challenges, which, in Obama’s case would be irrelevant in 2013 (unless he lost and decidied to run again in 2016, which is pretty unlikely).

    Still, I’m not happy about such a creep as a judge.

  16. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn June 6, 2012 at 8:12 am #

    Scientist

    Sure, he is not elected — which is why I said, if he wins. But we know, even if Obama doesn’t win the election, birthers want to keep pressing on their birther cause against him. Look to how many demand Romney do something if elected president. Birthers want revenge — and we all know what that means to them — and they will feel as if they have someone to do it with, no matter when.

  17. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 8:25 am #

    richCares: … county central committees …

    She’s having USSR flashbacks again.

    More confirmation that it isn’t about Obama, it’s all about Orly. The corruption is everywhere, and it’s all against Orly!

    Eaux, the drama.

  18. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 8:27 am #

    bgansel9: What are the ramifications if Gary Kreep wins?

    A darkly entertaining waste of government resources in one form or another.

    Injustice for some.

    More work for the appeals courts.

    Maybe he’ll be fool enough to get himself removed? Surely not. Surely he would realize what a great coup he’s pulled of, and merely abuse it, not screw it up totally. (Hmmmm, still too optimistic, JPotter?)

  19. avatar
    roadburner June 6, 2012 at 8:32 am #

    well, if kreep does hear a birther case without recusing himself (though i can’t see how anyone in the legal system would consider letting him hear one or even near one), the birfoons would have their first win.

    but of course it would then be sent to the supremes, and bitchslapped down with a precedent set.

    be worth letting them have one for that 😀

  20. avatar
    Scientist June 6, 2012 at 8:36 am #

    Bran Mak Morn: But we know, even if Obama doesn’t win the election, birthers want to keep pressing on their birther cause against him. Look to how many demand Romney do something if elected president. Birthers want revenge — and we all know what that means to them — and they will feel as if they have someone to do it with, no matter when.

    I still don’t see what a state court can do against a President or an ex-President, especially one who doesn’t even live in that state.

  21. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn June 6, 2012 at 8:50 am #

    Scientist:

    Once again, birthers will sue, make a stink, do anything to get into court. They claim he is a traitor and so they are after blood, no matter when they can get at it. Who said a state court can do anything? A birther judge can and will rule without concern of ethics, but in the end, the value of the ruling will be null and void. Who has said otherwise? But to the birthers, that will be proof of corruption…

  22. avatar
    Bob June 6, 2012 at 8:55 am #

    bgansel9:
    What are the ramifications if Gary Kreep wins?

    It presents an opportunity for some grifting but other than that, not much.

  23. avatar
    Andrew Vrba June 6, 2012 at 9:13 am #

    Internet slang doesn’t exist to express how amused I am right now! ROTFLMFAO just doesn’t cut it!

  24. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 6, 2012 at 9:22 am #

    With the Kreep win this narrow, I suppose there is a chance for error and a recount. Just have to wait and see.

  25. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 9:23 am #

    “They endorsed Emken, when they had results of 2010 election, where I got 537,000 votes in my race and Emken got only 11,000 in her race.”

    She believes results of past elections are binding? I think Orly might be overlooking other possible considerations, not involving corruption. Just maybe.

    However, she is right, there is a conspiracy against her!

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 6, 2012 at 9:29 am #

    Orly’s campaign talking point: “We have to stop printing worthless money, fiat currency, which devalues our savings” probably didn’t garner much enthusiasm given the historic low inflation rate.

  27. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Orly’s campaign talking point: “We have to stop printing worthless money, fiat currency, which devalues our savings” probably didn’t garner much enthusiasm given the historic low inflation rate.

    It’s taken as gospel in far right cirlces and a cornerstone of the Ron Paul platform.

    At any second, the inflation rate will explode. We’ll all be hauling our pay home in wheelbarrows, Weimar-style. Any day now, any day now …

    So silly. Electronic banking will eliminate the need for wheelbarrows. 😉

  28. avatar
    Jim F June 6, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Just two things.

    1. can you confirm that Mr Creep is not elected and that he must now face another candidate in a run-off election?

    2.I’m pleased that Orly has no more distractions with a senate election and that she can concentrate on what she does best. I felt for a while that her heart wasn’t really in the bither issue and the campaign was lagging a bit. I hope that she will get back into the full swing of things and that we can now look forward to some more cutting edge legal actions which kept so many of us amused.
    .I wonder how the RICO charges are progressing?
    Incidentially, when will the courtS start sanctions againt all of the birther lawyers and plaintiffs/

  29. avatar
    Thrifty June 6, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    Wouldn’t the case have to go through a few levels of apellate courts first, between Kreep and the Supreme Court?

    roadburner:
    well, if kreep does hear a birther case without recusing himself (though i can’t see how anyone in the legal system would consider letting him hear one or even near one), the birfoons would have their first win.

    but of course it would then be sent to the supremes, and bitchslapped down with a precedent set.

    be worth letting them have one for that

  30. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    1. can you confirm that Mr Creep is not elected and that he must now face another candidate in a run-off election?

    from judgepedia

    The California judicial elections will consist of a primary on June 5 and general election on November 6, 2012.

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/California_judicial_elections,_2012_-_Superior_Courts_%28R-Y%29

  31. avatar
    Thrifty June 6, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    Taitz is, predictably, blaming her loss on corruption and faulty voting machines.

    She reminds me of a kid named Jerome in my neighborhood who I use to play with when we were both 9 years old. We’d play informal baseball games whereby one kid would throw the wiffle ball and the other kid would try to hit it. No base running; just a little friendly keeping of a score based on the number of balls you hit.

    Any time any of us threw the ball to Jerome, if he didn’t hit it, he’d throw a fit and yell “I wasn’t ready!!!” or “that was too close!” or some sort of excuse.

    Orly is a lot like that sore lose 9 year old whom even as kids we regarded as immature.

  32. avatar
    The Magic M June 6, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    Bran Mak Morn: Oh, you better believe Kreep, if he wins, will have a birther case and he will NOT recuse himself.

    And you think the defendants would let him get away with that?
    I’m not an expert in US law, but wouldn’t some kind of interlocutory appeal result in a ruling from a higher court that the judge must recuse himself? That’s how it works in my country.

  33. avatar
    Bob June 6, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    Dear god she’s back to state ballot challenges already. She sickens me.

  34. avatar
    Sef June 6, 2012 at 11:15 am #

    Thrifty:
    Wouldn’t the case have to go through a few levels of apellate courts first, between Kreep and the Supreme Court?

    That’s what’s so fun about these cases in NY. You start out in the Supreme Court.

  35. avatar
    gorefan June 6, 2012 at 11:17 am #

    donna: The California judicial elections will consist of a primary on June 5 and general election on November 6, 2012.

    Not if Kreep gets over han 50%.

    “If an incumbent Superior Court judge files for reelection and draws no opponent, that race does not appear on the ballot. If the race is contested, the candidate who wins more than 50% of the vote is elected. ”

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Superior_Court_of_San_Diego_County,_California

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    Vic June 6, 2012 at 11:27 am #

    Today on the judgepedia site (which had the text Donna quoted) is saying that Kreep WAS elected, pending recount, apparently because he received a majority in that two candidate race:

    http://judgepedia.org/index.php/2012_election:_California_primary_results

    San Diego County hosted the race with the closest results yesterday, from which Gary G. Kreep was elected judge. Kreep won just 50.01% of the vote, which is the minimum amount one can receive and still be elected. That means that Peed won 49.99%, making it the closest race in the state so far this year. No word yet on whether a recount will be called.

  37. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 11:29 am #

    In an interview with TPM before the polls closed Tuesday night, Taitz said she had momentum in the race, claiming she gained 800 new followers on Twitter and had 1.2 million visits to her Facebook page in the last three days.

    “According to most reliable polls from start to finish, I’m leading,” Taitz said. “As you know, I’m a grassroots candidate, I’m not an establishment candidate. The Republican Party establishment does not like people who rock the boat, and so they are supporting another candidate, but I do have a lot of support.”

    Taitz is best known for beating the “birther” drum — she’s compared herself to Nelson Mandela and claimed Obama’s long-form birth certificate wasn’t legitimate because it should have said “Negro” — but she’s made presidential eligibility a relatively minor part of her platform (it comes it at No. 12, after rolling back the EPA and holding government officials accountable for the Solyndra and Fast and Furious scandals).

    “People know about the eligibility issue,” Taitz said. “I’ve done over 1,000 interviews on the eligibility issue. So people know about it, and so it was very important for me to talk about the other issues. … In the state of California, we have enormous, enormous joblessness. Particularly, we have enormous joblessness among young people, according to the statistics of the Labor Department.”

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/birther_orly_taitz_dianne_feinstein_ca_senate.php

  38. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn June 6, 2012 at 11:33 am #

    The Magic M

    Notice what I am saying. I am not saying Kreep will “get away with it.” I am saying what he will do. And when he is overridden, birthers will be screaming about the law being violated. It’s easy to predict.

  39. avatar
    MattR June 6, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    I am not sure if the judgepedia article takes into account the new open primary system that went into effect this year. From the California SOS office (http://vig.cdn.sos.ca.gov/2012/primary/pdf/english/info-pages-all.pdf):

    In this new open primary system, this means you can vote for any candidate, regardless of what party preference you indicated on your voter registration form. Only the two candidates receiving the most votes—regardless of party preference—move on to the general election regardless of vote totals. If a candidate receives a majority of the vote (50 percent +1), a general election still must be held. Even if there are only two candidates in the open primary, a general election is still required.

    (EDIT: D’oh. Should have kept reading. The next line of the PDF says “California’s new open primary system does not apply to candidates running for U.S. President, county central committee, or local offices.” Is a judicial race considered a local office?)

  40. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    There are approximately 135000 Absentee / Provisional ballots still to be counted

    http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/voters/results/transform.htm?paramVal1=superior_court.xsl

  41. avatar
    justlw June 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    THANK YOU RUDY DAVIS FOR A GENEROUS $1,000 DONATION, WHICH ENBLED ME TO TRAVEL TO DALLAS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTIONS CONVENTION

    *sigh* How much proactive mental health care could that $1,000 have gotten him? Does anyone (besides the Secret Service) know what ol’ Rudy does for a living, that he’s got that much money to toss Lena’s way?

  42. avatar
    Sef June 6, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    Speaking of money, Orly says she got the $280K from her retirement fund. Might not the IRS have some questions about early withdrawal penalties?

  43. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    Sef: Speaking of money, Orly says she got the $280K from her retirement fund.

    Great, so we can expect her to keep “working” for a few more years.

    Sef: Might not the IRS have some questions about early withdrawal penalties?

    IRS penalizes early withdrawals from husband’s checking account? Oh, maybe it was from his retirement fund. In which case, I’m sure he paid them. Usually, the institution processing the withdrawal does the withholding on that. Saving Orly from a terrible moral dilemma. Heh. And giving her yet another claim of corruption …. “They STOLE 10% of my [husband’s] hard-earned moneeeeeyyyy!!!”

  44. avatar
    Andrew Vrba June 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    When a candidate loses an election, their line of thought usually is “Well, the people have spoken, and I wasn’t the one they wanted.” When Orly loses an election, her line of thought is “I WAS CHEATED BY A CORRUPT SYSTEM OF CORRUPT PEOPLE WHO ARE CORRUPT! OBAMMY DID IT!”.

  45. avatar
    Predicto June 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    I don’t think Kreep will have any opportunity to get a birther case. He is going to be just one of dozens of San Diego Superior Court judges. He will be assigned by the presiding judge to a specific department of the Superior Court, and I highly suspect it will be traffic court.

  46. avatar
    Rickey June 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    Predicto:
    I don’t think Kreep will have any opportunity to get a birther case.He is going to be just one of dozens of San Diego Superior Court judges. He will be assigned by the presiding judge to a specific department of the Superior Court, and I highly suspect it will be traffic court.

    That’s an excellent point. He could be assigned to any of a number of different departments – criminal, juvenile, probate, family court, and traffic court, as well as civil. As the newest judge, he would likely get an assignment that those with seniority don’t want.

    Of course, it remains to be seen if Kreep won. A 56-vote lead isn’t much with absentee ballots yet to be counted.

    As for how he did so well, San Diego County is very conservative and Kreep has name recognition there because of his representation of the Marine who was discharged because of his anti-Obama comments.

  47. avatar
    BillTheCat June 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    He will be relegated to cases involving dog bites, tree trimming offences and small claims. He will never hear a “birther” case.

  48. avatar
    jayHG June 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    So in orly’s world – let me get this straight if at all possible, which I think it’s not, but anyhow – in her world, she only loses ANYTHING because the other folks are somehow bought off, threatened, there’s corruption somewhere, something is rigged, or whatever. There is no reason that has anything to do with HER???!!! If it was a fair race, she would have won?!!?

    I would stop thinking she is a functioning nub job bipolar crazy person if she, just once, said something like “we fought the good fight, etc.” But EVERY SINGLE LOSS is a big old conspiracy.

    I’ve actually stopped bothering with her (and most all birthers, including Trump) except for entertainment value.

  49. avatar
    RetiredLawyer June 6, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    One aspect of actual practice in California state courts is that there is a right to reject a judge for any reason or no reason at all. One has to use this when the case is first assigned and one can only use it once for any case. So, all the defendants have to do in any birther case assigned to Kreep is file the form and the case gets reassigned. Aside from which, Kreep is most likely going to be assigned to hearing pre-trials in criminal court, than hearing civil cases. Since he is coming in with an “unqualified” rating and the only places he is going to be placed is where he can’t do too much damage. (That he won a particular seat does not indicate that he is going to get any particular courtroom or assignment)

  50. avatar
    jayHG June 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm #

    Rickey: That’s an excellent point. He could be assigned to any of a number of different departments – criminal, juvenile, probate, family court, and traffic court, as well as civil. As the newest judge, he would likely get an assignment that those with seniority don’t want. Of course, it remains to be seen if Kreep won. A 56-vote lead isn’t much with absentee ballots yet to be counted.As for how he did so well, San Diego County is very conservative and Kreep has name recognition there because of his representation of the Marine who was discharged because of his anti-Obama comments.

    I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near him no matter where he’s assigned….his judgment is suspect.

  51. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy June 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    Prop 14 only applies to statewide races.

    MattR: I am not sure if the judgepedia article takes into account the new open primary system that went into effect this year. From the California SOS office (http://vig.cdn.sos.ca.gov/2012/primary/pdf/english/info-pages-all.pdf):

  52. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    not only is he a birther but pro-life and anti-gay

    a REAL KREEP!!!!!

    AT LEAST 3 reasons to file a motion for recusal

  53. avatar
    Whatever4 June 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    So would Kreep have to give up his USJF? Would he be ethically (STOP LAUGHING) barred from publicly supporting birthers?

    I’ve been researching his past efforts, and it seems he’s the epicenter for many of the birther memes. Between Kreep, Berg, and Taitz, they’ve started/popularized most of the rumors.

  54. avatar
    BatGuano June 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    jayHG:
    So in orly’s world…..she only loses ANYTHING because the other folks are somehow bought off, threatened,….

    the moles were coerced into unwhackability.

  55. avatar
    Thinker June 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Jim: I couldn’t disagree with you more. Orly’s beef with President Obama is entirely political, whether she will openly admit it or not. Her crazy lawsuits force courts to dedicate scarce resources to birfer nonsense and force innocent defendants to expend resources defending against her delusions. And let’s not forget about all the public officials, attorneys, judges, and court employees who she has caused to be harassed because of her own legal screw-ups and inability to admit that she is wrong about anything. Anyone who runs for office knows that they are opening themselves up to being harassed by losers and wierdos like Orly and consider it part of the price of getting elected. Furthermore, campaigns are funded by donations from people who freely choose to donate to causes important to them. The legal system is taxpayer-funded and the money for defending against this nonsense comes out of the pockets of the agencies, organizations, and individuals who happen to be in Orly line of fire.

    She has a political beef with the President and she should be pursuing it in the political realm.

    Jim F:
    I’m pleased that Orly has no more distractions with a senate election and that she can concentrate on what she does best.I felt for a while that her heart wasn’t really in the bither issue and the campaign was lagging a bit.I hope that she will get back into the full swing of things and that we can now look forward to some more cutting edgelegal actionswhich kept so many of us amused.

  56. avatar
    MattR June 6, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Prop 14 only applies to statewide races.

    Ahh, thanks.

  57. avatar
    Thinker June 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

    I think it is premature to say that Kreep won. There are 135,000 absentee and provisional ballots that have thus far not been reported. This is about 1/3 of total votes cast. I would say Kreep v Peed is still a tossup.

  58. avatar
    Bran Mak Morn June 6, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    donna:
    not only is he a birther but pro-life and anti-gay

    a REAL KREEP!!!!!

    AT LEAST 3 reasons to file a motion for recusal

    Well, being a birther means someone is either intellectually troubled or a liar, and that is enough to question his own ability to be on the stand. And the way many of the “right” are anti-gay, they can’t be pro-life, because being pro-life includes the respect and dignity of the human person in all walks of life throughout their whole life, but the way many attack and discriminate against gays, they really are something else (I say this as someone who is pro-life, but ethically so, finding the so-called political movement vile to the extreme).

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    BillTheCat June 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm #

    Thinker: I think it is premature to say that Kreep won. There are 135,000 absentee and provisional ballots that have thus far not been reported. This is about 1/3 of total votes cast. I would say Kreep v Peed is still a tossup.

    ^^this^^

    That’s a lot of uncounted ballots.

  60. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    Bran Mak Morn :

    the voices always get LOUDER when people realize they’re LOSING

    when you look at the demographics of the gop, they are not a party of the young – the moderates have either become indys or dems leaving the far right religious freaks in the “majority”

    the youth has left them and the church due to conservative politics – read the “american grace” by putnam/campbell

    it’s like skimming milk – once you take the good stuff out, you’re left with WATER

    repeal of dadt, roe, contraception coverage, marriage equality on the way to the supremes as is doma, etc

    what ‘s next? a black guy in the white house?

    what’s a poor white guy to do when MEN are receiving affirmative action in college acceptances because women are OVERPOWERING them based on just the application?

    this from one of those guys, Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson:

    “I think that one of the greatest mistakes America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote. We should’ve never turned this over to women,” Peterson said in a 14-minute sermon in March. “And these women are voting in the wrong people. They’re voting in people who are evil who agrees [sic] with them who’re gonna take us down this pathway of destruction.”

    LOUD VOICES from LOSERS

  61. avatar
    carlos June 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    Seeing Saint Orly’s name on my ballot yesterday was, well, other-worldly. Looking at the results, it astounds me that there were some 113,500 Californians who actually cast their votes for her. I didn’t know there were that many wingnuts left in California. Probably not for long, thank goodness. Upon their departure for say, Texas, the average IQ of the state ought to bounce upward significantly.

  62. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny June 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

    BillTheCat: ^^this^^

    That’s a lot of uncounted ballots.

    Actually, there are three elections there, meaning it is probably 40,000 to 45,000 votes in the Kreep-Peed contest. That still makes it a toss up.

    Problem is who are these 40,000 + people who put in an absentee vote for a seemingly unimportant election. People who are informed about the two candidates? Or is there an abnormally high number of birfers among them? Orly Taitz did score slightly better among absentee voters than among the people who voted on Tuesday.

    If Kreep does get elected (and I say this as one who voted for Kreep as the best birfer lawyer) I know a case that should immediately be transferred to him, and that should keep him very busy for the next four years: Liberi et al versud Taitz et al.

  63. avatar
    bovril June 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

    Tangential but proof of

    a. Orly’s touch converts gold to cack
    b. Competent lawyer she ain’t
    c. The law of unintended consequences.

    I give you…….

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/96200621/2012-06-06-MDEC-Motion-to-Supplement-Response-to-Motion-for-Sanctions-S-D-Miss

    An official, signed and verified document, as part of Orly’s craptastic Mississippi ballot challenge, from Hawai’i stating that ALL the data shown and presented on the BC at the Whitehouse site is the same as the original.

    In other worlds all the garbage in Birferstan and particularly from Orly and them like Bitterdezillion (sic) that the BC is a fake and the HAwai’i DoH has never “verified” the BC is….well cack…..

    And you know how this lovely little document turned up…? Mad Ole Orly tried to say that the opposing council, in her fail whale of a case, were trying to perpetrate a fraud on the court and demanding sanctions. This gave the opposing counsel the justification to request the verification which the nice folks in Hawai’i did.

    Don’t ya just love it when a plan comes together…. 😎 😎

  64. avatar
    Predicto June 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    carlos: Seeing Saint Orly’s name on my ballot yesterday was, well, other-worldly. Looking at the results, it astounds me that there were some 113,500 Californians who actually cast their votes for her. I didn’t know there were that many wingnuts left in California. Probably not for long, thank goodness. Upon their departure for say, Texas, the average IQ of the state ought to bounce upward significantly.

    I was one of them. I voted for Orly. And I am a moderate to liberal appellate attorney.

    I did it for the lulz. I suspect many others did as well.

  65. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 5:14 pm #

    Kreep’s list of endorsements includes former Alaska Senatorial candidate Joe Miller. His platform says that “arrogant judges who overstep their authority are a threat to society” because they can “let criminals go free based on procedural technicalities” and “think nothing of overturning ballot measures approved by millions of voters.”

    Kreep vowed to “follow the law and the Constitution, and to administer justice with a firm but even hand in every case that comes before my court.”

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/birther_gary_kreep_san_diego_california_judge_orly_taitz.php?ref=fpb

  66. avatar
    bovril June 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    Oh and I forgot to say….considering how Arpaio and the rest of the Band O’Seditious have been taking months and months and never ACTUALLY talked to the Hawai’i DoH until they had their little jolly cum extortion attempt.

    Diyda see how long it took to get a verification….didya…..didya…..FIVE yes FIVE days.

  67. avatar
    Sef June 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm #

    It’s a good thing Orly didn’t spend all that “loan” to her “campaign”. She’s gonna need some dough to pay for her sanctions & costs in MS & IN.

  68. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny June 6, 2012 at 5:28 pm #

    Predicto: carlos: Seeing Saint Orly’s name on my ballot yesterday was, well, other-worldly. Looking at the results, it astounds me that there were some 113,500 Californians who actually cast their votes for her. I didn’t know there were that many wingnuts left in California. Probably not for long, thank goodness. Upon their departure for say, Texas, the average IQ of the state ought to bounce upward significantly.

    I was one of them. I voted for Orly. And I am a moderate to liberal appellate attorney.

    I did it for the lulz. I suspect many others did as well.

    The logical conclusion would be that if 113,500 Orly voters leave California for Texas, the average IQ of both states will bounce upward significantly

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    G June 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    I sure hope so. That an unethical creep like Kreep can be elected to Judge…. *sigh*… a very sad and unfortunatel day indeed… *puke*

    Thinker: I think it is premature to say that Kreep won. There are 135,000 absentee and provisional ballots that have thus far not been reported. This is about 1/3 of total votes cast. I would say Kreep v Peed is still a tossup.

  70. avatar
    G June 6, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    I agree. The RWNJ have gone further over the edge, because of desperation. The tide of history and demographics in the long term are against them. All they can hope to do is wreck as much damage as they can in a frenzied furor to forstall the inevitable.

    As the old saying goes, it is always darkest before the dawn. Of course, we can not simply roll over and let these nutters and extremists have their way. They will continue to cling to and grab power and cause damage as long as good folk and naive folk let them get away with their irresponsible behavior. Really bad things can happen when increasingly desperate zealots feel the need to cling to power and ideological surviva by any means they can get away withl.

    We all have to live in the present and deal with the near-term future in front of us. Sadly, the fight for direction of the near-term is quite precarious and dicey and seems to be full of way too much regressive sentiment and action than the dawn of the 21st century deserves.

    donna: Bran Mak Morn : the voices always get LOUDER when people realize they’re LOSING when you look at the demographics of the gop, they are not a party of the young – the moderates have either become indys or dems leaving the far right religious freaks in the “majority” the youth has left them and the church due to conservative politics – read the “american grace” by putnam/campbellit’s like skimming milk – once you take the good stuff out, you’re left with WATERrepeal of dadt, roe, contraception coverage, marriage equality on the way to the supremes as is doma, etc what ‘s next? a black guy in the white house?what’s a poor white guy to do when MEN are receiving affirmative action in college acceptances because women are OVERPOWERING them based on just the application?this from one of those guys, Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson:“I think that one of the greatest mistakes America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote. We should’ve never turned this over to women,” Peterson said in a 14-minute sermon in March. “And these women are voting in the wrong people. They’re voting in people who are evil who agrees [sic] with them who’re gonna take us down this pathway of destruction.”LOUD VOICES from LOSERS

  71. avatar
    G June 6, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

    Actually, he told the secret service what he did on that video –

    He called himself a “network plumber”. In other words, he’s in the IT department and works on the network. Whether he’s a network admin at his job or just one of several network techs is not known. But that seems to be the skillset he is plying in his current profession.

    justlw: *sigh* How much proactive mental health care could that $1,000 have gotten him? Does anyone (besides the Secret Service) know what ol’ Rudy does for a living, that he’s got that much money to toss Lena’s way?

  72. avatar
    Sef June 6, 2012 at 6:44 pm #

    y_p_w: I noticed a different notation next to Onaka’s signature.

    Looks like ATO to me. Probably Alvin, himself.

  73. avatar
    Mr Whoosits June 6, 2012 at 7:06 pm #

    I believe the Mr Kreep will have to wait a decade or so to be in a position to rule on the Presidents eligibility.

    San Diego County Superior Court has about 140 judges at any given time, and different judges hear different kinds of cases. Assignments are made by the presiding judge and seniority is very important. A new judge, regardless of his talents, will be given the less desirable assignments. Such a new judge can expect to be assigned to such things as small claims, traffic, misdemeanors, probation violations, etc. Only very senior judges are assigned to the unlimited civil case department. If presiding judges think that another judge is incapable of handling important matters, then he will be kept doing small less important matters for his entire career.

    On the other hand, the salary is about $150,000 per year.

  74. avatar
    Keith June 6, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    Whatever4:
    So would Kreep have to give up his USJF? Would he be ethically (STOP LAUGHING) barred from publicly supporting birthers?

    I’ve been researching his past efforts, and it seems he’s the epicenter for many of the birther memes. Between Kreep, Berg, and Taitz, they’ve started/popularized most of the rumors.

    Only until he decides to step down or is voted out. Then he can morph into Napolitano.

  75. avatar
    y_p_w June 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    Mr Whoosits: San Diego County Superior Court has about 140 judges at any given time, and different judges hear different kinds of cases.

    I remember the first time I served on jury duty I was sent to a California district court. This was before district an superior courts were consolidated. I think the effect is the same. Although they’re now called “superior court” the smaller courthouses that did the misdemeanor, felony arraignments, traffic, and petty civil cases still do that. The larger courthouses (generally in the county seat) still handle the felonies and large civil trials.

    I suspect they’re not going to give him very choice assignments. Maybe just traffic violations.

  76. avatar
    donna June 6, 2012 at 7:37 pm #

    Mr Whoosits:

    the fact that he will forever more be referred to as “Judge kreep” makes me want to GAG

    judge, can i show you to your table, the restaurant hostess will ask

    YUK!!!!!!

    i want him to be branded with the birther “B”

    i though (half) governor palin was bad

  77. avatar
    OrlyFan June 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm #

    Predicto:

    I did it for the lulz.I suspect many others did as well.

    As did I; I very much wanted her to be the face of the Republicans in the coming election.

  78. avatar
    Joe Acerbic June 6, 2012 at 8:26 pm #

    Mr Whoosits:

    On the other hand, the salary is about $150,000 per year.

    …and it’s not a council seat but a job where common sense would demand some qualifications and competence for it, yet a bunch of nutjobs can just elect any amoral idiot to the job. Is there nothing wrong with this picture?

  79. avatar
    Expelliarmus June 6, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

    Paul Pieniezny: Actually, there are three elections there, meaning it is probably 40,000 to 45,000 votes in the Kreep-Peed contest. That still makes it a toss up.

    I think you misunderstand how judicial elections work. I believe that ALL voters in San Diego county would have had the opportunity to vote for their candidate of choice in ALL 3 judicial races. So 135,000 outstanding ballots means potentially 135,000 more votes to count in each race.

    In any case, Kreep’s current 56 vote lead is statistically insignificant. Even if the absentee votes followed the same pattern of a roughly 50/50 split — at best Kreep’s got a 50/50 chance of being deemed the winner when results are certified in July.

  80. avatar
    JPotter June 6, 2012 at 9:20 pm #

    Joe Acerbic: …and it’s not a council seat but a job where common sense would demand some qualifications and competence for it, yet a bunch of nutjobs can just elect any amoral idiot to the job. Is there nothing wrong with this picture?

    Yes, that not enough citizens educated themselves and voted.

    I suppose it’s possible that the whole district has been radicalized to the point that the nuts are in the majority, but surely not. Surely it’s just a case of apathy losing.

  81. avatar
    G June 6, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    Agreed. *barf*

    Joe Acerbic: …and it’s not a council seat but a job where common sense would demand some qualifications and competence for it, yet a bunch of nutjobs can just elect any amoral idiot to the job. Is there nothing wrong with this picture?

  82. avatar
    Randy June 6, 2012 at 10:56 pm #

    carlos:
    Seeing Saint Orly’s name on my ballot yesterday was, well, other-worldly.Looking at the results, it astounds me that there were some 113,500 Californians who actually cast their votes for her.I didn’t know there were that many wingnuts left in California.Probably not for long, thank goodness.Upon their departure for say, Texas, the average IQ of the state ought to bounce upward significantly.

    Hey I’m in Texas we don’t need any more nuts, we already have Rudy.

  83. avatar
    Lupin June 7, 2012 at 3:22 am #

    The guy in traffic court before Kreep accused of running a red light pleaded that he was so distraught over the Kenyan Usurper that it caused him not to see the red light. According to Judge Kreep (shades of ROGER RABBIT), does he have standing?

    In related news, popcorn manufacturer cheer.

  84. avatar
    Keith June 7, 2012 at 8:07 am #

    JPotter: Yes, that not enough citizens educated themselves and voted.

    I suppose it’s possible that the whole district has been radicalized to the point that the nuts are in the majority, but surely not. Surely it’s just a case of apathy losing.

    Could be. I grew up in Tucson, but I spent 2 years in San Diego before I moved to Australia. It got to the point where I hated my job, the people I hung out with were acquaintances not really friends, the weather, supposedly the best in the USA was repetitive and bor-ring and I just couldn’t see staying there. Truly, the only thing good (IMHO) about SD was Torry Pines Golf Course, Blacks Beach, and the drive over the hills through Rancho Santa Fe (which has more Australian Gum Trees that Australia) out to the desert (OK, “Hotel del Coronado” is kinda cool too; but that’s it.) (and I liked the light rail to the border, but nothing else) (the “Over the Line” tournament at Mission Beach was fun, but everything else was crap).

    The mayor at the time Pete Wilson (dubbed just the other day as “San Diego’s finest politician as a state assemblyman turned mayor turned U.S. senator turned governor.”) was so smart that he fell for a Ponzi scheme and lost several millions, along with a dozen more people who should know better (this guy was being touted as Senator material?!? WTF; geeze he even made it! and Governor!?! you have got to be kidding! This guy couldn’t find his butt with both hands!).

    The crazy in SD runs deep. When my then girl friend, now wife, said come home with me to Aussieland, I said I can’t get there fast enough.

  85. avatar
    JPotter June 7, 2012 at 10:09 am #

    Keith: The crazy in SD runs deep. When my then girl friend, now wife, said come home with me to Aussieland, I said I can’t get there fast enough.

    I had the same impression of the place. Some nice attractions, interesting to visit. But, for me, too near the equator (Not that my current location (Tulsa) is better!) …. and the houses cantilevered off hillsides …. yeesh. it was probably a really beautiful place back when we bought it. Maybe it will be again.

  86. avatar
    Joe Acerbic June 7, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    JPotter: Yes, that not enough citizens educated themselves and voted.

    I suppose it’s possible that the whole district has been radicalized to the point that the nuts are in the majority, but surely not. Surely it’s just a case of apathy losing.

    It was a low importance and low information election, so the majority doesn’t care but the nutjobs do and this is the result. This is why the normal way of doing things is that people elect representatives who then hire the civil servants. Electing judges and sheriffs seems like an obsolete remnant from frontier towns where everybody knew everybody but it looks less functional in modern society.

  87. avatar
    JPotter June 7, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    Joe Acerbic: Electing judges and sheriffs seems like an obsolete remnant from frontier towns where everybody knew everybody but it looks less functional in modern society.

    I absolutely agree! Such postions should be as removed from possible from party politics and not term-limited. Every time I go vote, and see “blues” and “reds” running for “judge”, it sends off alarm bells.

    Perhaps what’s worse is having a local gov’t stuck with a nutwad like Arpaio because the people voted for him. The judiciary and law enforcement functions of gov’t must be isolated from popular passions. The majority cannot rule everyuthing, a primary function of these offices is he protection of minorities and outcasts.

    To point out the extreme: Hey, let’s add the SCOTUS lineup to the Presidential election! Rotate’em like Senators, 3 up every 4 years!

    Right.

    (as soon as I typed that, I realized lots of extremists would love to do just that!)

  88. avatar
    Scientist June 7, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

    Joe Acerbic: Electing judges and sheriffs seems like an obsolete remnant from frontier towns where everybody knew everybody but it looks less functional in modern society.

    According to this article, outside the US, the only place where judges are elected are a few of the smaller Swiss cantons (damn that Vattel!) and Japanese Supreme Court judges, who face an occasional retention vote, which is described as formality. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/us/25exception.html?pagewanted=all

    I would add District Attorneys to the list also. The link between elected DAs and the insane incarceration rate in the US is not coincidental.

  89. avatar
    Sef June 7, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    Orly theoretically (yeah, right!!) could still pull out a second place. As of 2:30 pm PT there are 702,261 ballots uncounted. Plus 31 more counties “pending submission” ( http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2012-elections/june-primary/pdf/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf )

    There are still 135000 ballots in San Diego Co yet to be counted, so Kreep is not a shoo-in.

  90. avatar
    donna June 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm #

    peed has taken the lead 157,796 (50.02%)

    kreep 157,642 (49.98%)

  91. avatar
    Craig June 8, 2012 at 2:23 am #

    Gonna be recounts demanded galore here, I just know it.

  92. avatar
    G June 8, 2012 at 5:04 am #

    YEAY!!! Oh please, let Peed retain the lead!

    Note: The Rachel Maddow show also reported this result update on her show last night. It was quite an entertaining segment.

    donna: peed has taken the lead 157,796 (50.02%)kreep 157,642 (49.98%)

  93. avatar
    donna June 8, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    rachel’s comprehensive segment on taitz & kreep

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#47730646

  94. avatar
    JPotter June 8, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    Orly is rambling on like mad, giving vote count updates on the hour …. and, surprise, urging her ‘supporters’ to harrass the CA SoS.

    Hope springs eternal.

    She’s also mailed a DIY (?) subpoena to Pelosi, for who-knows-whatever.

    Visit her site for laughs, you know the address. Many people allege security risks, I’ve not had a problem with her site.

  95. avatar
    donna June 8, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    i feel i lose brain cells when i go to her site

    a funny article from john avalon with quotes like:

    it’s time to stop the insanity.

    It’s hard to overstate just how bad that would be for the Golden State GOP.

    In other words, nut-balls.

    Orly Taitz as a candidate for U.S. Senate would make Christine O’Donnell look like Henry Clay. She would make Sharron Angle look like Daniel Webster. Donald Trump seems a model of restraint by comparison.

    This is funny, but it’s also sad. This is what happens when you burn down the big tent. The sideshow takes over.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/05/birther-queen-orly-taitz-s-big-comeback-on-california-senate-ballot.html

  96. avatar
    donna June 8, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

    from her website:

    Conmtra Costa Times: at least 800,000 or million ballots haven’t been counted

    “Conmtra”??

    There are still approximately 1.2 million votes, which were not accounted …..

    ” accounted”????

    re mississippi

    MISSISSIPP​I filing is break you have been waiting for

    David Jonsson

    3:59 PM (53 minutes ago)

    Orly

    The filing is the break you need to open the case and close the forgery case and get a win. The data exists that it is a forgery. You can demand to see the original sent to court of Certificate and the basis from which it came.

    I think this is the first time they have tried to use the certificate to prove citizenship.

    HYSTERICAL

  97. avatar
    JPotter June 8, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    JPotter: I’ve not had a problem with her site.

    …. technical problems that is. Usability, legibility problems are a given!

  98. avatar
    Sef June 9, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    It looks like our favorite Orange Co. “attorney” may have gotten herself in some real hot water. Seems she was/is renting some of her building as a pot dispensary and the Feds are not happy. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7806 I am not commenting pro/con about pot, but this is funnee.

  99. avatar
    Sef June 9, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

    Sef:
    It looks like our favorite Orange Co. “attorney” may have gotten herself in some real hot water. Seems she was/is renting some of her building as a pot dispensary and the Feds are not happy. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7806 I am not commenting pro/con about pot, but this is funnee.

    More comments at TFB confirm that the dispensary is closed.

  100. avatar
    Rickey June 9, 2012 at 11:28 pm #

    As of the close of business yesterday:

    GARLAND PEED 165360 50.17%

    GARY GEORGE KREEP 164267 49.83%

    The next update will be at 5:00 p.m. PDT on Monday.

  101. avatar
    JoZeppy June 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

    And seems Orly is gearing up to an election loss in a typically Orly way….from her website:

    “i need your help in getting names of all 24 members of the CA GOP and their agent for service of Process
    Posted on | June 11, 2012 | No Comments

    Also, I need your help in getting addresses for service of process of Jon Fleischman and Alan Hoffenblum, two CA GOP attacks dogs, who viciously attacked and defamed me in all the media outlets as apparently as part of the deal was to assassinate my character in order to schield Obama and promote an obedient puppet Emken. “

  102. avatar
    JPotter June 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

    JoZeppy: “i need your help in getting names

    That is one, creepy, dependent woman. Who first referred to her followers as flying monkeys? If you could search all the postings on her site, how many time would the phrase “i need your help in getting names and addresses” appear? I’d conservatively go 50.

  103. avatar
    Arthur June 12, 2012 at 5:02 am #

    Below is a link to a funny little video in which a collection of conservative politicians and pundits appear to be dancing the bossa nova. Guess who appears at 30 seconds in?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbLRV5HV34&feature=player_embedded

  104. avatar
    Sef June 12, 2012 at 7:08 pm #

    From the CA state website it appears that Taitz is ahead of Williams now: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/us-senate . It’s not over yet, though.

  105. avatar
    Expelliarmus June 13, 2012 at 2:55 am #

    The page you linked to shows Williams with 140,825, Taitz with 138,024. That puts Williams ahead by 2800 votes. (” as of June 12, 2012, 5:17 p.m”)