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Controlling the demons

Faithful messengers will warn the sheep of these heretics, and identify them by name. It is not enough to broadly hint of their identity, for the young lambs will not understand and will be destroyed by the wolves.

Paul Cunningham

imageIn my reading on ancient religions and cult practices, I learned that there was a common belief that calling a god or a demon by its true name gave someone power over it. In the Bible (Genesis 32) Jacob wrestles with an angel and demands that the angel disclose its name (the angel refuses). We see remnants of this in folklore such as the story of Rumpelstiltskin, a magical creature who was forced to relinquish a claim when his name was learned.

I was reminded of this today when I read a string of comments on the GretaWire forum where one poster engaged in a paroxysm of dumping names, IP addresses and personal biographical information1 belonging to “Obots.” In conspiracy theory thinking, the thing the conspirators fear the most is exposure, and so I suppose a conspiracy theorist thinks they gain power by publishing personal information about the conspirators. In fact, there is no Obama eligibility conspiracy and people who think birthers are batshit crazy are just expressing a normal reaction, and perhaps some overdoing it in zeal. What I did fear when I was working was that these nut cases would try to threaten our jobs by telling lies to employers and messing with business deals. Fortunately, those things didn’t happen and the only embarrassment was that I felt obligated to notify the Executive Vice President of my company when I found out that Jerome Corsi was going to out me on WorldNetDaily. I don’t think anyone wants to be in the sights of hate groups and nut cases.

I see a common thread between primitive religions and conspiracy theories. In both, connections are considered significant without scientific evaluation. One year a virgin falls into a volcano and the weather is good for crops. The next year the weather isn’t so good, so the shaman decides it’s time for another virgin in the volcano. Confirmation bias sets in. When the weather is good, the virgin in the volcano caused it and when the weather is bad, the people did something else to offend the gods. In the same way curiosities in Obama’s long form birth certificate are seen as fraudulent rather than normal random variation. This is also the variable reward phenomenon that leads to gambling addiction.

For a diversion, I offer this YouTube video suggesting seriously that one should not call a demon by its first name.


1Some of the Obot biographical information dumped at GretaWire is not actually true. The information for the most part is, however, mostly harmless, but punctuated by a smearing question at the end.

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40 Responses to Controlling the demons

  1. avatar
    JPotter August 19, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Revelation of a name turns the unknown into the known, and is the first step of initiation. The first step into the rabbit hole.

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    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter August 19, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    I think when you know the “name” of something, you do gain power over it. The trick is, to be sure you know the right name. That requires seeing past the superficially obvious, and into the very nature of the thing. For example, what is the “name” of the person at WND who writes those stupid Birther Internet Articles, and is also a Special Deputy on the Cold Case Posse???

    If you say, “Jerry Corsi”, then you have only repeated his ordinary name, the moniker he goes by in public. Knowing this gives you no power.

    But, what is his secret name??? What really describes him??? If you start with “Hack Writer Who Lies With Ease”, now you are beginning to get somewhere. The more you can add to that Secret Name, and the more you know of his nature, the more power you will have over him.

    You will know where he is coming from and where he is going. You can be there before he arrives. You will be able to describe for others what he does, and how he does it, and why. Now, you are beginning to have power over him.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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    Joe Acerbic August 19, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    Corsi’s true name is Lying Sack Of Bloerghh (that’s in Carcaron to get around the moderation, y’all need to translate it to English).

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    Majority Will August 19, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter:
    I think when you know the “name” of something, you do gain power over it. The trick is, to be sure you know the right name. That requires seeing past the superficially obvious, and into the very nature of the thing. For example, what is the “name” of the person at WND who writes those stupid Birther Internet Articles, and is also a Special Deputy on the Cold Case Posse???

    If you say, “Jerry Corsi”, then you have only repeated his ordinary name, the moniker he goes by in public. Knowing this gives you no power.

    But, what is his secret name??? What really describes him??? If you start with “Hack Writer Who Lies With Ease”, now you are beginning to get somewhere. The more you can add to that Secret Name, and the more you know of his nature, the more power you will have over him.

    You will know where he is coming from and where he is going. You can be there before he arrives. You will be able to describe for others what he does, and how he does it, and why. Now, you are beginning to have power over him.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    Jerry, the festering human hemorrhoid, buffet glutton and plagiarist who thinks oil is in infinite supply deep within the earth and brought to the surface by centrifugal force?

  5. avatar
    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter August 19, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    Majority Will:

    Well, let’s give it a test!

    1) Look Maw! Special Deputy Jerome “Jerry” Corsi, Ph.D done wrote another Internet Article about how that rascal Obama has a forged birth certificate!

    Maw: YIPPEE!!!

    2) Look Maw! Jerry, the Hack Writer Who Lies With Ease and is a festering human hemorrhoid, buffet glutton and plagiarist who thinks oil is in infinite supply deep within the earth and brought to the surface by centrifugal force done wrote another Internet Article about how that rascal Obama has a forged birth certificate!

    Maw: Meshugana!!! And I should care what a hemorrhoid writes, why???

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  6. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    You mean Corsi’s name is not in fact “Eggplant Wizard”?
    That would explain why Captain N was of no help…

  7. avatar
    JPotter August 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    I thought it was Mushroom Farmer Jerry.

  8. avatar
    Majority Will August 19, 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter:

    Well, let’s give it a test!

    1) Look Maw! Special Deputy Jerome “Jerry” Corsi, Ph.D done wrote another Internet Article about how that rascal Obama has a forged birth certificate!

    Maw: YIPPEE!!!

    2) Look Maw! Jerry, the Hack Writer Who Lies With Ease and is a festering human hemorrhoid, buffet glutton and plagiarist who thinks oil is in infinite supply deep within the earth and brought to the surface by centrifugal force done wrote another Internet Article about how that rascal Obama has a forged birth certificate!

    Maw: Meshugana!!! And I should care what a hemorrhoid writes, why???

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    Well done.

  9. avatar
    US Citizen August 19, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    Beetleguise!!

  10. avatar
    Majority Will August 19, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    With a big ol’ lie
    And a flag and a pie
    And a mom and a bible
    Most folks are just liable
    To buy any line

    – Frank Zappa

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    US Citizen August 19, 2012 at 5:18 pm #

    Majority Will:
    With a big ol’ lie
    And a flag and a pie
    And a mom and a bible
    Most folks are just liable
    To buy any line

    – Frank Zappa

    Perhaps so, but take heart that we don’t see so much yellow snow around.

  12. avatar
    Slartibartfast August 20, 2012 at 2:33 am #

    Doc,

    Does it count as being “outed” if neither my name nor my pseudonym were attached to my (mostly correct) information? Considering how easy it is to attach my real name to “Slartibartfast” online, I can only marvel at the level of incompetence this suggests…

    Thanks for pointing this out—I wouldn’t have known that I was being ineffectually smeared otherwise 😉

  13. avatar
    The Magic M August 20, 2012 at 6:02 am #

    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter: The more you can add to that Secret Name, and the more you know of his nature, the more power you will have over him.

    I think this explains that particular birther loon I know from ORYR and WND – the guy keeps adding more words to his “100% serial criminal traitor, 100% marxist muslim sociopathic narcissist, 100% foreign born NWO CIA agent usurper Barry Soetoro Soebarkah Malik Shabazz ” word salad with every time that he posts.

    Especially the birther obsession with “Soebarkah” points significantly to the “power of the secret real name” issue.

  14. avatar
    Keith August 20, 2012 at 7:57 am #

    Slartibartfast: Considering how easy it is to attach my real name to “Slartibartfast”

    Arthur Dent? Really? How cool is that?

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    Patrick McKinnion August 20, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

    The Magic M: I think this explains that particular birther loon I know from ORYR and WND –the guy keeps adding more words to his “100% serial criminal traitor, 100% marxist muslim sociopathic narcissist, 100% foreign born NWO CIA agent usurper Barry Soetoro Soebarkah Malik Shabazz ” word salad with every time that he posts.

    Yeah, that’s the one I usually refer to as the birther version of a Dr. Bronner’s soap label.

  16. avatar
    G August 20, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

    Hey Patrick,

    What are you doing here? You’re supposed to be enjoying a well-deserved vacation with your family! Now, get back to having fun…! 😉

    Patrick McKinnion: Yeah, that’s the one I usually refer to as the birther version of a Dr. Bronner’s soap label.

  17. avatar
    Paper August 20, 2012 at 7:16 pm #

    The difference of course being that behind that label there is some good soap.

    Patrick McKinnion: Yeah, that’s the one I usually refer to as the birther version of a Dr. Bronner’s soap label.

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    Slartibartfast August 20, 2012 at 7:18 pm #

    Keith: Arthur Dent? Really? How cool is that?

    Nah—Arthur’s just a friend (don’t tell that to the mice, though… I’m supposed to be working for them).

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    Northland10 August 20, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    G:
    Hey Patrick,

    What are you doing here?You’re supposed to be enjoying a well-deserved vacation with your family!Now, get back to having fun…!

    There are some words birthers do not understand (standing, jurisdiction, merits, evidence, facts, NO, etc.). Patrick has difficulty understanding the term “vacation.” This is not surprising as many debunking bloggers have difficulty with the terms “vacation” and “retirement.” I, for one, am thankful for the debunkers’ lack of understanding these terms. 😉

  20. avatar
    G August 20, 2012 at 9:24 pm #

    😉

    Slartibartfast: Nah—Arthur’s just a friend (don’t tell that to the mice, though… I’m supposed to be working for them).

  21. avatar
    Plutodog August 21, 2012 at 1:50 am #

    Geez, I don’t want to page through all the garbage to get to the “outing”. Can rikker get a more direct link?

  22. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 21, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    It’s not just one comment, but a series of them, one per Obot. Here’s one:

    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/open-thread/blog-and-tell-us-what-you-think-about-the-upcoming-political-conventions/#comment-623181013

    Plutodog: Geez, I don’t want to page through all the garbage to get to the “outing”. Can rikker get a more direct link?

  23. avatar
    Plutodog August 21, 2012 at 10:13 am #

    Ahh! Thanks, Doc. All under nom de sally in AZ?

  24. avatar
    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter August 21, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    In line with the Satanic Ritual theme of this Internet Article, did anybody else notice that the Phoenix Birther Cotillion takes place on the Autumn Equinox??? The Pagan Holiday of Mabon, Harvest Home, and the Wicker Man??? The Greek Eleusinian Mystery Rites complete with Maenads tearing people to pieces???

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 21, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    Yup. As far as I could tell, she focused on folks active at The Fogbow. I post there sometimes, but an not very active — too busy here, and frankly it’s easy to get lost at The Fogbow if you don’t keep up every day.

    Plutodog: Ahh! Thanks, Doc. All under nom de sally in AZ?

  26. avatar
    gorefan August 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: As far as I could tell, she focused on folks active at The Fogbow.

    Was she just repeating info from KBOA or was this new stuff?

  27. avatar
    Rickey August 21, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    Plutodog:
    Geez, I don’t want to page through all the garbage to get to the “outing”.Can rikker get a more direct link?

    Trying to navigate that site is a real chore.

  28. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm #

    @gorefan
    I’m not that much on KBOA’s stuff to tell, but it looked different and Sally didn’t use first names.

  29. avatar
    Slarti August 21, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    Doc,

    I haven’t been active on the Fogbow in months, yet I still got “outed” (although my name wasn’t mentioned…). If I had to guess, I’d say that “Sally in AZ” was somehow related to a certain failed political scientist who blames his personal failures on affirmative action and sees President Obama as a symbol of how he was wronged. He has two first names and likes to use both “Dr.” and “PhD” when referring to himself (which he does incessantly). As far as I know, he’s the only person who’s ever connected me to a web domain I bought for a company I’m trying to start, which wouldn’t have been hard to do, but would require intent. Since this information was posted by this person and, as far as I know, no one else cares enough to dig it up. I also had an exchange with him on the Fogbow thread with his name (until he was banned for being a blatant sexist) and commented a couple of times on his blog.

    Since (as near as I can tell), my inclusion on Sally’s list is an anomaly (everyone else seems to be active Fogbow members), it seems like a significant clue as to her sources. All of the rest of the information seems like it could have come from KBO(no A), but, unless I’m mistaken, she never published any information regarding me.

    p.s. Could you delete the account for “Slartibartfast” so that I can go back to using my handle (and gravatar)? Thanks.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Yup. As far as I could tell, she focused on folks active at The Fogbow. I post there sometimes, but an not very active — too busy here, and frankly it’s easy to get lost at The Fogbow if you don’t keep up every day.

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 21, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    Done

    Slarti: p.s. Could you delete the account for “Slartibartfast” so that I can go back to using my handle (and gravatar)? Thanks

  31. avatar
    Slartibartfast August 21, 2012 at 8:23 pm #

    Thanks Doc!

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Done

  32. avatar
    Sudoku August 21, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    Squeeky, Apuzzo took note of your post and copied it at his site, sandwiched between his remarks:

    “For those who want to look into the perverted, warped, and pretentious mind of a typical Obot, take a look here, found at Doctor Conspiracy’s blog: ”

    “Squeeky Fromm envisages herself/himself as the leader of the Obot artsy intellectual elite.”

    The best part is the following comment says “Squeeky Rocks”.

    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter: I think when you know the “name” of something, you do gain power over it. The trick is, to be sure you know the right name.

  33. avatar
    Paper August 21, 2012 at 8:57 pm #

    Link?

    Sudoku:
    Squeeky, Apuzzo took note of your post and copied it at his site, sandwiched between his remarks:

  34. avatar
    Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter August 22, 2012 at 10:39 am #

    Sudoku:

    OH, that is funny!!! Mario was probably still miffed about this little thingie from a few weeks earlier, Famous Birther Lawyer Tackles The Obamacare Ruling!!! (Is This For Real???), and wondering how somebody got a hold of his stationery:

    http://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/famous-birther-lawyer-tackles-the-obamacare-ruling-is-this-for-real/

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  35. avatar
    nbc August 22, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    Poor Mario, he is so irony deficient…

  36. avatar
    G August 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm #

    Mario is just deficient, period.

    nbc: Poor Mario, he is so irony deficient…

  37. avatar
    Lupin August 23, 2012 at 2:33 am #

    G: Mario is just deficient, period.

    Mario always reminds me of Skimpole in Dickens’ BLEAK HOUSE.

  38. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater August 23, 2012 at 10:14 am #

    Slarti: Doc,I haven’t been active on the Fogbow in months, yet I still got “outed” (although my name wasn’t mentioned…). If I had to guess, I’d say that “Sally in AZ” was somehow related to a certain failed political scientist who blames his personal failures on affirmative action and sees President Obama as a symbol of how he was wronged. He has two first names and likes to use both “Dr.” and “PhD” when referring to himself (which he does incessantly). As far as I know, he’s the only person who’s ever connected me to a web domain I bought for a company I’m trying to start, which wouldn’t have been hard to do, but would require intent. Since this information was posted by this person and, as far as I know, no one else cares enough to dig it up. I also had an exchange with him on the Fogbow thread with his name (until he was banned for being a blatant sexist) and commented a couple of times on his blog. Since (as near as I can tell), my inclusion on Sally’s list is an anomaly (everyone else seems to be active Fogbow members), it seems like a significant clue as to her sources. All of the rest of the information seems like it could have come from KBO(no A), but, unless I’m mistaken, she never published any information regarding me.p.s. Could you delete the account for “Slartibartfast” so that I can go back to using my handle (and gravatar)? Thanks.

    Slarti my only surprise is that I haven’t been mentioned in all this even though I’ve been co-hosting with RC for the last year or so his radio show.