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Arpaio impedes Taitz prosecution

Explosive Interview on Denver talk radio

Peter Boyles, KHOW talk radio host in Denver, featured birther attorney Orly Taitz on his show this morning, confronting her elusive witness, John Sampson. The Denver Post said of Boyles:

The Internet aside, the 630-KHOW radio host is easily the top source for birther flame-fanning in Colorado.

You can play this morning’s show below (the Taitz segment starts at 14:10).

Let me finish!

Taitz described her historic court trial in Indiana Monday as a “trial against Obama” (Barack Obama isn’t a defendant in that case). Taitz said, “There are 30 million people who read my web site and they are extremely angry [at John Sampson],” so show producers called John Sampson, former Taitz witness in Georgia, to ask him why he’s not going to appear in Indiana for Taitz. This is what he said (from recording after 19:45):

A couple of things, Peter: Number 1, as you know and as your listeners know, I’ve got my own political race that I’m in the middle of, and quite frankly the polling data that we have shows that it’s a statistical tie. Every minute that I take away from the campaign, I have more catch-up to do later on and it adversely impacts my chances getting elected to the Colorado State Senate. That’s item 1.

Item 2 is on March 26, 2012, I was down in Phoenix, Arizona, and met with Joe Arpaio and his crew. And at that meeting I was instructed, because there’s an ongoing criminal investigation, that they would appreciate it that if I didn’t testify at any other hearings. Because of the information that I became privy to as a result of that meeting. Once I get on the witness stand, lord only knows what questions are gonna be asked. And as a result, I’ve been in touch with Mike Zullo who is the lead investigator for this thing and none of us are going, and I understand where Dr. Taitz is with this, I really do, and I applaud her efforts, but I’m in a bind right now where I cannot …

[Orly interrupts at this point]

Taitz: This is complete nonsense! …

Peter Boyles: Orly, Please…

Taitz: let me finish; let me finish …

Boyles: Orly, Please…

Taitz: … Let me finish …

Sampson: Peter, If you can’t put a muzzle on her, I’m gonna hang up.

[Much conversation back and forth is omitted in the elided parts]

Just wow! Arpaio shares with an out of state civilian critical details of an ongoing investigation, but tells him to keep it out of the hands of the courts. I must side with Orly Taitz when she says John’s second point is nonsense. Anything Arpaio told him is hearsay and inadmissible. Boyles says that Taitz and Sampson are both “friends” but he clearly likes Sampson best.

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36 Responses to Arpaio impedes Taitz prosecution

  1. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    I left the following comment at Orly’s blog:

    I listened to the show and I thought Peter Boyles treated you badly. I completely agree with your point that John Sampson’s objection to having to reveal confidential information at the Indiana trial is utter and complete nonsense.

    First you wouldn’t have even known that he had met with Arpaio if he hadn’t told you himself, and so you couldn’t have asked him about it (and the Indiana Secretary of State certainly isn’t going to ask him anything like that). More importantly, anything Arpaio had told Sampson would be hearsay and would not have been allowed in the first place.

    That said, there are lots of folks who believe nonsense, and Sampson will get away with it.

    I disagree with your theory that Arpaio did a deal to forgo prosecution of Obama in exchange for a deal on criminal charges against him. Arpaio clammed up because he wants to be re-elected, and the majority of voters are not in sympathy with the Obama eligibility challengers.

    I talked personally with Sampson at some length after the Atlanta hearing, and I thought he was a half-way decent fellow, but now that Sampson has his political career started, he’s dumped you. Pretty sorry treatment if you ask me.

  2. avatar
    misha marinsky October 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    This is a comment left on Orly’s site that Dr C linked to (this is NOT a joke):

    Can you post here the telephone numbers, mailing addresses, and email addresses of these gentleman?

    I have some information that LORD JESUS CHRIST told me to tell them. LORD JESUS CHRIST said it is Hid Holy Will of God for them to stand up and face evil crimes and lies and to defeat and overthrow evil crimes and sins against God and humanity by standing up in court with overthrow the USA and the world!! it is Lord Jesus CHrist’s Holy Will that these men stand up and etner into court their honest adn true information. in court about their legal findingss

    [I have it on good authority that you are semi-literate, and clinically insane. My dog and my cat could win any debate with you.]

    “I have some information that LORD JESUS CHRIST told me to tell them.” Where have I heard that before?

    Oh, yeah: GW Bush – God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

  3. avatar
    RuhRoh October 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    I encourage everyone to listen to the clip. She is really on the verge of a complete breakdown.

    Is Sampson the witness she bullied on the stand in GA?

  4. avatar
    realist October 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    It wouldn’t make any difference whether Samson is not appearing due to some agreement with Arpaio or whether he just doesn’t want to expose himself to cross or whether he just doesn’t want to do anything for Orly or just doesn’t want to go to IN. If he doesn’t want to appear he doesn’t have to, even with a properly served subpoena, and the court has no power, under the circumstances, to force him to. And no, he won’t be held in contempt. The same holds true for Arpaio and Zullo.

    The real reason they won’t testify, in my opinion, is because they don’t want to be subjected to cross exam which would blow all their BS “investigation” out of the water.

  5. avatar
    CarlOrcas October 18, 2012 at 5:38 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Arpaio clammed up because he wants to be re-elected, and the majority of voters are not in sympathy with the Obama eligibility challengers.

    On top of that he clammed up because he doesn’t have any information….nothing, zip, nada.

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 18, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    I must confess that I don’t understand exactly what is being tried on Monday, given that Barack Obama is not a party to the case, nor do I have any confidence that I understand what kinds of testimony will be allowed.

    realist: The real reason they won’t testify, in my opinion, is because they don’t want to be subjected to cross exam which would blow all their BS “investigation” out of the water.

  7. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 18, 2012 at 6:27 pm #

    No. My recollection is that was Doug Vogt.

    RuhRoh: Is Sampson the witness she bullied on the stand in GA?

  8. avatar
    gorefan October 18, 2012 at 6:36 pm #

    Matthew Hendley gives Doc a shout out.

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/10/joe_arpaios_balking_at_his_cha.php

    “The man known as “Dr. Conspiracy” summed up that statement perfectly: “Just wow! Arpaio shares with an out of state civilian critical details of an ongoing investigation, but tells him to keep it out of the hands of the courts. I must side with Orly Taitz when she says John’s second point is nonsense. Anything Arpaio told him is hearsay and inadmissible…””

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 18, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    Taitz treats every else like crap, and screams for people who don’t agree with her to be jailed or hung as traitors. So I really can’t feel bad for her, or the idiots that keep giving her money for her windmill chasing for that matter.

  10. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 18, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Taitz wrote on her blog that Hendley had contacted her to ask details about exactly what she wants Arpaio to do.

    gorefan: Matthew Hendley gives Doc a shout out.

  11. avatar
    Rickey October 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

    I lived in the Denver area for most of the 80s. Boyles was a responsible, respectable talk show host in those days. He was a friend of talk show host Alan Berg, who was murdered by white supremacists in 1984. How he devolved into becoming a birther is a mystery to me.

  12. avatar
    Bernard October 18, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    TYPO. In the second paragraph of Sampson’s direct quotation, in the second line should read (from the radio tape):
    ” I WAS instructed, because there’s an ongoing …..”

    The “was” erroneously omitted.

  13. avatar
    aarrgghh October 18, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    allow boromir to explain

  14. avatar
    Northland10 October 18, 2012 at 11:24 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Taitz treats every else like crap, and screams for people who don’t agree with her to be jailed or hung as traitors. So I really can’t feel bad for her, or the idiots that keep giving her money for her windmill chasing for that matter.

    She does have a strong tendency to turn on even those who supporter her. The trail of birthers, or lean toward birthers, she has left in her wake is constantly growing. If I recall the list:

    Gary Kreep
    CEL III
    some of her Keyes v Obama clients
    Lucas Smith
    Larry Sinclair
    Dean Haskins
    And some from the crew of Liberi v Taitz.

    I suspect, I am missing many but it is hard to keep up.

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    ASK Esq October 18, 2012 at 11:46 pm #

    Northland10: She does have a strong tendency to turn on even those who supporter her.

    That’s because, in Orlyville, you eaither support her 100%, or you are one of her mortal enemies (I assume I’m somewhere on the list). Any deviation from the Holy Book of orly, no matter how seemingly slight or insignificant it may be to the casual observer, is enough to have one branded a heretic.

  16. avatar
    The Magic M October 19, 2012 at 4:19 am #

    > Arpaio shares with an out of state civilian critical details of an ongoing investigation, but tells him to keep it out of the hands of the courts. [...] Anything Arpaio told him is hearsay and inadmissible.

    Yes, but it might prove embarrassing if the defense asked him about it, Orly of course does not object (because she *wants* all this stuff in court) and Sampson says something that might be devastating to Arpaio’s show – like “they said they are doing this for political purposes”.

  17. avatar
    Steven Feinstein October 19, 2012 at 6:54 am #

    I am not only on her list of enemies, I was named in her REEEEKO statement.

  18. avatar
    Keith October 19, 2012 at 8:02 am #

    Steven Feinstein:
    I am not only on her list of enemies, I was named in her REEEEKO statement.

    OK, now you are just bragging.

  19. avatar
    realist October 19, 2012 at 8:56 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I must confess that I don’t understand exactly what is being tried on Monday, given that Barack Obama is not a party to the case, nor do I have any confidence that I understand what kinds of testimony will be allowed.

    Perhaps nothing, as the defense has now filed a Motion to Dismiss the First Amended Complaint. That “should” be heard before any “trial” ensues on the Motion for Permanent Injunction (a preliminary injunction having already been denied) and the other motion that is the subject of the “trial” which is asking that Obama be kept off the ballot or in the alternative tnat no votes be counted in IN unless and until all Orly’s “evidence” is heard and the original BC is examined by experts, etc.

    Aside from Arpaio, Zullo and Sampson she claims to have 7 witnesses going to IN to testify. Strunk in esse has declared his intention to testify related to “Soebarkah” and Orly claims Susan Daniels is going. No idea beyond that.

    Bottom line, none of the evidence is probative and most should be inadmissible hearsay, even if testimony is allowed.

    Judge Reid has invited the birther circus to town, ala ALJ Malihi. I think it is possible she’ll hear the Motion to Dismiss arguments, withhold ruling and go ahead and hear Taitz’s “witnesses”, which is in effect trial by ambush, as the defense has had no discovery opportunities as to Taitz’s “witnesses”. Now, it won’t matter much as all the testimony is BS, but there will be objection to any/all of it as this will not be tried to an empty chair.

    Should be interesting. And entertaining.

    Fogbow is hoping to have boots on the ground.

  20. avatar
    Yoda October 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    Steven Feinstein:
    I am not only on her list of enemies, I was named in her REEEEKO statement.

    OK, now you are just bragging.

    Hey, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

  21. avatar
    Yoda October 19, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

    Keith: OK, now you are just bragging.

    Hey, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

  22. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    That’s good. One of the reasons I decided not to go was the uncertainty that anything would happen in the first place, and the hopes that some valiant anti-birther would attend and provide a report.

    I remember being in Atlanta when the hearing was almost canceled due to the non-appearance of the Defense.

    realist: Fogbow is hoping to have boots on the ground.

  23. avatar
    RuhRoh October 19, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    The Phoenix New Times has another article up about Zullo and Arpaio’s refusal to testify for Orly. Orly will be quite displeased with Zullo’s comments. Doc gets another shoutout!

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/10/joe_arpaio_birther_obama_mike_zullo_orly_taitz.php

  24. avatar
    misha marinsky October 19, 2012 at 4:30 pm #

    RuhRoh: She is really on the verge of a complete breakdown.

    I hope TV cameras are there to record it for posterior posterity.

  25. avatar
    Majority Will October 19, 2012 at 5:28 pm #

    RuhRoh:
    The Phoenix New Times has another article up about Zullo and Arpaio’s refusal to testify for Orly. Orly will be quite displeased with Zullo’s comments.Doc gets another shoutout!

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/10/joe_arpaio_birther_obama_mike_zullo_orly_taitz.php

    And in the comments, this steamer from a birther troll who I think was banned from FR and from here:

    “A natural citizen is one via descent from the original citizens. Dr. Conspiracy is a far left radical who claimed Vattel was not used by the Founders.”

  26. avatar
    Reality Check October 19, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    Isn’t e. vattel the handle Garrett Papit used on Facebook at Orly’s World until he was unmasked?

  27. avatar
    donna October 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm #

    RuhRoh:

    from your link:

    “Regardless of what ‘Dr. Conspiracy’ says, we know we’ve got something here,” Zullo says, referencing the man who’s been following/debunking “birther” theories for quite some time.

  28. avatar
    misha marinsky October 19, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    donna: “Regardless of what ‘Dr. Conspiracy’ says, we know we’ve got something here,” Zullo says

    Yeah, used cars that are lemons.

  29. avatar
    RuhRoh October 19, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

    Orly has a lengthy post up on her blog updating the status of the IN shenanigans. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=350402

    She says that the trial is still scheduled for Monday despite the defense’s attempt to “vacate” it. I assume she is referring to the Motion To Dismiss.

    Lots of stuff about Arpaio, Zullo and Sampson, including that she could not possibly have defamed any of them.

    Orly is bringing the circus to IN Monday morning.

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 20, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    I don’t know about that, but e.vattel on THIS site is:

    Dancing Rabbit
    Dragging Canoe
    Rowena
    PseudoObama
    tallbull

    That person is an American ex-pat whose identity I determined, but of course won’t publish. It is not Garrett Papit.

    Reality Check: Isn’t e. vattel the handle Garrett Papit used on Facebook at Orly’s World until he was unmasked?

  31. avatar
    Bill DuBerger October 20, 2012 at 3:44 pm #

    Yoda:
    Steven Feinstein:I am not only on her list of enemies, I was named in her REEEEKO statement.
    OK, now you are just bragging.
    Hey, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

    Hey…aren’t you two related? Like schizophrenic twins or something?

  32. avatar
    Reality Check October 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

    It is not surprising that more than one birther would choose some form of their hero Emer de Vattel’s name. I would say with certainty that very few of them have read very much of his writings. The majority of what he wrote is not pro-democracy.

    Papit may have been Emer de Vattel on Facebook. The old Orly’s World page got removed by Facebook so I do not think it is archived. the first time I had ever heard of Papit was when he was connected to the name over there.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I don’t know about that, but e.vattel on THIS site is:

    Dancing Rabbit
    Dragging Canoe
    Rowena
    PseudoObama
    tallbull

    That person is an American ex-pat whose identity I determined, but of course won’t publish. It is not Garrett Papit.

  33. avatar
    Yoda October 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm #

    Bill DuBerger: Hey…aren’t you two related? Like schizophrenic twins or something?

    We share identical DNA material.

  34. avatar
    Yoda October 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Isn’t e. vattel the handle Garrett Papit used on Facebook at Orly’s World until he was unmasked?

    Yes, It took me a while to figure it out, but he and I had gone through many conversations in private and the way he phrased things was a dead give away. He admitted it to me later.

  35. avatar
    tempsam October 22, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Peter Boyles has gone off the deep end with his birther nonsense, but most recently he is on the ‘who is Obama’s real father’ conspiracy. He knows for a fact that Obama’s real father is Frank Marshall Davis. His proof?? Obama mentions a Frank in his book “Dreams of my Father”.

    Dr. Conspiracy… it would be great if you could be a quest on Boyles show to provide some real facts.

  36. avatar
    misha marinsky October 22, 2012 at 4:36 pm #

    tempsam: He knows for a fact that Obama’s real father is Frank Marshall Davis.

    Nonsense. His real father is Darth Vader.

    Luke Barack, I am your father.” I heard it directly from James
    Earl Jones.

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