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15 minutes of fame not enough for Paul Irey

imageToday Orly Taitz says [link to Taitz web site] she gets 20 minutes1 to present her side  in Grinols v. Electoral College today at 2 PM before Judge Morris C. England, Jr., arguing for a temporary restraining order against Congress counting the Electoral College votes tomorrow, and to prevent her subpoenas from being quashed. One of her witnesses, commercial printer Paul Irey, is none too happy about the 15 minutes she promised him, writing in an email [link to Taitz web site] to Orly:

Orly,

      When did you figure this out?  I just finished pasting up the 13 exhibits on foam core.  15 minutes is not nearly enough … nor is it worth flying across the country and back for 15 minutes total time to testify.  You probably have 2 hours and the attorneys are going to spent that time objecting to the hearing … simply because they don’t want the evidence presented. Why can’t you stop them?  That’s what they did the last time.

     I spent over a week preparing for 15 minutes???  Sure … the less testimony the better … for the criminals avoiding conviction.  I’m going to run everything that I can’t testify to on WND and say so.  Judge did not want to hear it.  Obama’s attorneys do not want to hear it.  I was ready to prove the forgery about 15 different ways  … but now we can say that the courts run us out before we can present the testimony … then the press censors it and the congress does nothing.

     I am getting out of this country where Mickey Mouse can run for president because there are no laws against it … and no one has “standing” to challenge treason.

Paul

Personally, I don’t see how Orly could begin to think of giving Irey 15 of her precious 20 minutes and I sincerely doubt that she will. The issue at today’s hearing is not whether Obama’s social-security number is fake or whether his birth certificate is a forgery; the issue is whether a federal court can order Congress not to count votes tomorrow. It’s a legal question. If Orly tried to put Paul Irey on the Stand, it would be a repeat of what happened in Indiana, the defense would be objecting to everything said, only this time in front of a much more competent judge. It would be a total fiasco. If Orly wanted Irey’s testimony considered, she should have done by affidavit.

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Speculative conception of Irey’s exhibits

I don’t know if this was made public by accident, but an exchange was published on the Fogbow that discloses some of the defense strategy. Read it quick before it’s deleted. Some anti-birther folks should be in attendance today, and we may expect reports to filter in. Reality Check hopes to have some eye witnesses on a special edition of his radio show tonight at 9 PM. Those are always entertaining and informative.


1The allocation of 20 minutes is specified by Fed. R. Civ. P. 78, Local Rule 230 (g).

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83 Responses to 15 minutes of fame not enough for Paul Irey

  1. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 3, 2013 at 10:25 am #

    There is some informed speculation that Orly’s case may also be dismissed today. I don’t know.

  2. avatar
    JPotter January 3, 2013 at 10:27 am #

    She’s spotting him 75% of her time? Damn, that’s pretty high praise if you ask me.

    C’mon Paul, I thought exposing this ‘fraud’ was VITALLY IMPORTANT. Unravel your snit, unwad the panties, and get on the plane already. We demand entertainment!

  3. avatar
    Arthur January 3, 2013 at 10:37 am #

    I astounded that Iery, or any of Orly’s witnesses, trust her enough to spend money and time preparing for these pointless legal actions. After all, you can be a hard-core birther and still realize that Orly is a complete bust when it comes to lawyering.

  4. avatar
    Bob January 3, 2013 at 10:43 am #

    A friend was involved in a Federal case (he accused a university professor of misusing a Federal grant). A whole team of competent lawyers and real medical doctors worked on it for ten years. They made progress each step of the way, with every hearing, every deposition, every ruling they made some progress and still considered giving up. It cost tens of thousands of dollars — and the time and expertise of competent professionals.

    My friend won the case, Orly hasn’t made one teeny, tiny bit of progress in four years (if anything, the opposite is true). Her photo should be next to “delusions of grandeur” in the dictionary.

  5. avatar
    Norbrook January 3, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    If I read the judge’s order correctly, Orly doesn’t have 20 minutes to herself, it’s twenty minutes total for the lawyers, on both sides. So she has 10 minutes, not 20.

  6. avatar
    JPotter January 3, 2013 at 11:08 am #

    Arthur:
    I astounded that Iery, or any of Orly’s witnesses, trust her enough to spend money and time preparing for these pointless legal actions.After all, you can be a hard-core birther and still realize that Orly is a complete bust when it comes to lawyering.

    I said to the good money, “Bad money went that-a-way.”
    “Thanks!” said the good money, and continued its pursuit.

    First lesson, first day of corporate accounting. Do not throw good money after bad. Maintain objectivity. Identify sources of loss, and cut them off.

    See it everyday first hand in business, and around the world in business news. The watchers (IT, accounting, logistics, etc.) tell the misguided “visionaries” in management it’s time to knock it off—no, really, it’s time to knock it off!—management doubles down, blind to reality … and *BOOM!* Next thing you know, you’ve got Apple Maps. New Coke. Windows ME. The Iraq War. The 517th birfer action doomed to fail.

    Birfers are definitely not more wise than the average mere mortal. Quite the opposite. How could you possibly expect more of them? This is what they do, this is their doom.

    Just keep rollin’ them rocks up the hills that never end. Birf on, birfers!

  7. avatar
    Scientist January 3, 2013 at 11:17 am #

    Speaking of money, would anyone here be willing to bet that Irey doesn’t follow through on his promise to leave the country?

  8. avatar
    ellen January 3, 2013 at 11:29 am #

    I remember that Paul Irey continued to insist that Obama did not attend Columbia College even after Columbia University said that Obama did indeed attend and that in fact that he graduated.

  9. avatar
    Bob January 3, 2013 at 11:45 am #

    Orly must be totally prepared for her history-changing hearing — this morning she is moderating the parody(?) comments on her blog.

  10. avatar
    lis pendens January 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm #

    This time-line shows the past history for the White House malevolent miscreant. Anyone who would attempt to deny that the ‘miscreant’ should be investigated needs to have their American citizenship revoked. Remember this “I pledge allegiance” … not to a POTUS but to the Supreme law. Let’s not forget the oath to defend American rights against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB0FlYayGA

    Martin Luther King (MLK) made the most declarative statement to define a person’s viewpoint, and it is this one;

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    The evidence is in! The “miscreant” has no character that would be acceptable to the Judeo, Christian ethic … the long search for facts do not purport to support the ‘miscreants’ malevolent activities discoveries, and revelations made by him. All of the facts obtained over four years of bringing puzzle pieces together to solve the puzzle created by the ‘miscreant’ surely warrants that a complete investigation of the ‘miscreants’ loyalties, and to discover his hidden agendas.

    The “miscreant” needs to be held accountable for; “Issuing FISTING KITS to school children:, “Fast and Furious”, Seal Team Six security violations, Bengazi, law liscense perjury statements, imprisonment of Pakistani Dr. who provided the lead to Bin Laden, real estate fraud, member of communist and socialist parties that have a desire to destroy America’s Supreme Law, and more.

    For more of disgusting miscreant activities! Americans need to see the ‘miscreant’ as a person with no moral character as shown by the following revelations of his providing school children with ‘FISTING KITS’. Fisting kits are used to enable children to insert their hands into another child’s anus.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2009/12/08/Fistgate-II–High-School-Students-Given-Fisting-Kits-At-Kevin-Jennings-2001-GLSEN-Conference

    FISTING KIT IMAGE
    http://iusbvision.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fistgate.jpg

    All in all… Americans unknowingly voted for the most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth.

  11. avatar
    richCares January 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    “…most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth”
    Yah Time Magazine’s Person of the Year”, and he has very high approval ratings. Most Americans hold Obama in high esteem.

  12. avatar
    American Mzungu January 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm #

    One minute of fame is too much for liz pendens.

  13. avatar
    Andy January 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    Norbrook:
    If I read the judge’s order correctly, Orly doesn’t have 20 minutes to herself, it’s twenty minutes total for the lawyers, on both sides.So she has 10 minutes, not 20.

    No, it specifically gives 20 minutes to each side. A total of 40. There is some speculation that 10 minutes for each side will be dedicated to the TRO, and 10 to the subpoena issues.

  14. avatar
    donna January 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    doc:

    we can start our own conspiracy – obama is in hawaii and not due back in dc until saturday

    so when he’s voted out tomorrow and deemed a fraudster, he can just hop out of the country and avoid prosecution

    or perhaps he can be photographed next to his “original” birth certificate held in hawaii’s DOH and prove the birthers wrong …….. starting new conspiracies about the photo

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 3, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

    I don’t read it that way.

    Norbrook: If I read the judge’s order correctly, Orly doesn’t have 20 minutes to herself, it’s twenty minutes total for the lawyers, on both sides. So she has 10 minutes, not 20.

  16. avatar
    donna January 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm #

    Norbrook:

    from the ditz’s website:

    On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM, wrote:

    Good morning again and thank you for your question. The Court will permit each side twenty minutes total to present their arguments, which includes any and all witnesses.

  17. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm #

    Anybody who thinks like that would be more comfortable in a through-controlled dictatorship. We have laws to protect decent people from nut cases like you, and that insure freedom of speech for everyone.

    lis pendens: This time-line shows the past history for the White House malevolent miscreant. Anyone who would attempt to deny that the ‘miscreant’ should be investigated needs to have their American citizenship revoked.

  18. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy January 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

    In the past Orly has paid travel expenses.

    Arthur: I astounded that Iery, or any of Orly’s witnesses, trust her enough to spend money and time preparing for these pointless legal actions.

  19. avatar
    LW January 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

    My wife and I are pretty excited; our family is going to see the AG lay out the circumstances surrounding those exhibits you’re speculatin’ on live in April. (At least, I can’t imagine him not having that in his setlist. Hoping for “City of New Orleans” too.)

  20. avatar
    unbelievable January 3, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    Whose interest is the most challenged here? Is the miscreant more important than the security of a nation?
    With the evidence shown at the link and every other act of malfeasance perpetrated by the miscreant, how can anyone give that miscreant any slack?
    Lis pendens, provided information that wasn’t available to the public prior to the 2008 campaign, because MSM didn’t alert the public to the corruption and VALID issues attached to the miscreant.

    Isn’t every American supposed to know the history of those that they vote for. If it was possible my voted would be taken back …after seeing what the White House miscreant life was all about. Homo, communist, Muslim instead of his claim to Christianity, forge documents, and worst of all contributing to the jailing of decorated military personnel who attempted to honor their sworn oaths to “defend the Constitution” not the miscreant, de facto, potus

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    Dr. Conspiracy January 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm (Quote) #

    Anybody who thinks like that would be more comfortable in a through-controlled dictatorship. We have laws to protect decent people from nut cases like you, and that insure freedom of speech for everyone.

    lis pendens: This time-line shows the past history for the White House malevolent miscreant. Anyone who would attempt to deny that the ‘miscreant’ should be investigated needs to have their American citizenship revoked.

  21. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    lis pendens: Anyone who would attempt to deny that the ‘miscreant’ should be investigated needs to have their American citizenship revoked.

    You have my full name. Have my citizenship revoked. Try to, and get help along the way.

    lis pendens: The “miscreant” needs to be held accountable for; “Issuing FISTING KITS to school children

    I got mine, and it feels good. You’re doing it wrong.

  22. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm #

    unbelievable: Muslim instead of his claim to Christianity

    Article Six, US Constitution: “…no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

    When did that change?

  23. avatar
    JPotter January 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm #

    lis pendens: All in all… Americans unknowingly voted for the most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth.

    Hyperbole this absolute betrays a mind delude by irrational fear. Why would anyone listen to such a person? Do you really expect to be taken seriously?

    “Fisting kits”? WTF, mate? It appears I missed something … LOL!

  24. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    lis pendens: The “miscreant” has no character that would be acceptable to the Judeo, Christian ethic

    I’m Jewish. Obama is acceptable to us. Sorry he’s not to you.

    lis pendens: Americans unknowingly voted for the most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth.

    Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

  25. avatar
    Majority Will January 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm #

    unbelievable: Homo, communist, Muslim instead of his claim to Christianity

    Thanks for being upfront about your delusional paranoia, hatred and bigotry.

  26. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    misha marinsky: Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

    I haven’t gotten my direct deposit yet. Have you?

  27. avatar
    Horus January 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm #

    It just burns your birfer asses to know that no one gives a shit about what you think and believe!
    Get over yourselves, you lost the election to a man that a Majority of Americans hold in higher regard that they do you.
    Get that fact through your thick skull, no matter what you say it does not matter to us.
    We elected the best man for the job of leading this country!
    If it bothers you so much, there’s the border, you are free to leave whenever you want, and don’t come back, our country is better off without you.

    And I mean you lis pendens!
    And you unbelievable!

  28. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 2:11 pm #

    misha marinsky: Article Six, US Constitution: “…no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

    When did that change?

    When the black guy got elected.

  29. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    lis pendens: FISTING KIT IMAGE

    I think you’re obsessed.

  30. avatar
    Arthur January 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I think you’re obsessed.

    Yup. As anyone who has read the comments at ORYR, birthers appear to be preoccupied with scat and the defacatory systems.

  31. avatar
    LW January 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I think you’re obsessed.

    To put it mildly.

    The “IMAGE” linked to has nothing to do with what he purports it to be. The title of the pamphlet is “how to make a dental dam.”

    I guess we can’t blame the poster for that particular sordid conclusion, but only for A) reading the Breitbart article, B) believing it, and C) promulgating it.

    Jeez.

  32. avatar
    Butterfly Bilderberg January 3, 2013 at 2:32 pm #

    Doc, an affidavit from Irey would be inadmissible. If she wanted to preserve his testimony she could have taken his deposition. Of course, defense counsel would have to be included and their cross examination of Irey would be read into the record as well. Also, defense counsel would object, as most objections are waived if not made on the record.

    There simply is no way for Paul Irey to avoid objections or cross examination, much as he would like that to be the case.

  33. avatar
    Mary Brown January 3, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

    Lis . My name is Mary Solar Brown. I add my family name Solar because a Brown might be hard to find. I live in Papillion Nebraska. Are you planning to arrest everyone. Like Misha I think it is time to call you out.

  34. avatar
    Dave B. January 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    “Sure … the less testimony the better … for the criminals avoiding conviction. I’m going to run everything that I can’t testify to on WND and say so.” Now there’s an effective threat.
    “I am getting out of this country where Mickey Mouse can run for president because there are no laws against it …” Oh my, another one!

    Arthur: I astounded that Iery, or any of Orly’s witnesses, trust her enough to spend money and time preparing for these pointless legal actions.

    Just think how much Mr. Irey’s spent on foam core!

  35. avatar
    Arthur January 3, 2013 at 2:48 pm #

    Dave B.: Just think how much Mr. Irey’s spent on foam core!

    I know! And think of the time he spent mounting his exhibits!I wonder if he’ll be billing Orly to recover costs?

  36. avatar
    Dave B. January 3, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    lis pendens: For more of disgusting miscreant activities! Americans need to see the ‘miscreant’ as a person with no moral character as shown by the following revelations of his providing school children with ‘FISTING KITS’.

    Oh, the horror! And then a link to Breitbart, and an article about a 2001 GLSEN event– in Massachusetts–in which the “miscreant” had no involvement at all. Just skipping right over the facts for the initial shock factor, lis?
    Oh, and when you wrote that comment, you forgot about making any sense. That really shouldn’t be overlooked!

  37. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

    misha marinsky: Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

    CarlOrcas: I haven’t gotten my direct deposit yet. Have you?

    I got my direct deposit, because I voted for Obama three times!! Instructions are only available to members of the International Jewish Conspiracy™.

  38. avatar
    Dave B. January 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm #

    Arthur: I wonder if he’ll be billing Orly to recover costs?

    I can only imagine the correspondence that could go on between Orly and her “experts”.

  39. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 3:10 pm #

    misha marinsky: I got my direct deposit, because I voted for Obama three times!! Instructions are only available to members of the International Jewish Conspiracy™.

    Correction: I voted for Obama four times!!

  40. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 3:14 pm #

    misha marinsky:
    I got my direct deposit, because I voted for Obama three times!! Instructions are only available to members of the International Jewish Conspiracy™.

    Damn! I knew I should have joined up when those guys came knocking on my door.

  41. avatar
    BillTheCat January 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

    lis pendens:

    Insert crazy rant here

    Whatever you say lunatic. Enjoy the next 4 years!

  42. avatar
    Dave January 3, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

    Perhaps “lis pendens” is learning that leading with the most ludicrous attack you can find is not an effective way to persuade. But others might be interested to know that the “fisting kit” story was one of a lengthy series of smears against Kevin Jennings when Obama appointed him to a post at the Dept. of Education. The wingnuts had a routine apoplectic fit because Jennings is gay.

    If you want to know the origin of most of the smears against Jennings, google “stupidest man on the internet.”

  43. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm #

    BillTheCat: Enjoy the next 4 years!

    Yeah, we’ll have eight years of not invading another country for WMDs oil.

  44. avatar
    SluggoJD January 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

    lis pendens:
    This time-line shows the past history for the White House malevolent miscreant. Anyone who would attempt to deny that the ‘miscreant’ should be investigated needs to have their American citizenship revoked.Remember this “I pledge allegiance” … not to a POTUS but to the Supreme law.Let’s not forget the oath to defend American rights against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB0FlYayGA

    Martin Luther King (MLK) made the most declarative statement to define a person’s viewpoint, and it is this one;

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    The evidence is in! The “miscreant” has no character that would be acceptable to the Judeo, Christian ethic … the long search for facts do not purport to support the ‘miscreants’ malevolent activities discoveries, and revelations made by him.All of the facts obtained over four years of bringing puzzlepieces together to solve the puzzle created by the ‘miscreant’ surely warrants thata complete investigation of the ‘miscreants’ loyalties, and to discover his hidden agendas.

    The “miscreant” needs to be held accountable for; “Issuing FISTING KITS to school children:, “Fast and Furious”, Seal Team Six security violations, Bengazi, law liscense perjury statements, imprisonment of Pakistani Dr. who provided the lead to Bin Laden, real estate fraud, member of communist and socialist parties that have a desire to destroy America’s Supreme Law, and more.

    For more of disgusting miscreant activities! Americans need to see the ‘miscreant’ as a person with no moral character as shown by the following revelations of his providing school children with ‘FISTING KITS’.Fisting kits are used to enable children to insert their hands into another child’s anus.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2009/12/08/Fistgate-II–High-School-Students-Given-Fisting-Kits-At-Kevin-Jennings-2001-GLSEN-Conference

    FISTING KIT IMAGE
    http://iusbvision.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/fistgate.jpg

    All in all… Americans unknowingly voted for the most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth.

    LOLOLOL

    A clever turnip!

  45. avatar
    SluggoJD January 3, 2013 at 3:59 pm #

    unbelievable:
    Whose interest is the most challenged here?Is the miscreant more important than the security of a nation?
    With the evidence shown at the link and every other act of malfeasance perpetrated by the miscreant, how can anyone give that miscreant any slack?
    Lis pendens, provided information that wasn’t available to the public prior to the 2008 campaign, because MSM didn’t alert the public to the corruption and VALID issues attached to the miscreant.

    Isn’t every American supposed to know the history of those that they vote for.If it was possible my voted would be taken back …after seeing what the White House miscreant life was all about.Homo, communist, Muslim instead of his claim to Christianity….

    Seriously, FU. You’re racist BS is not welcome here.

  46. avatar
    Thomas Brown January 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm #

    To LisPendens and Unbelievable (and others… you know who you are):

    Knowledge is the enemy of Hate.

    That’s why you are so easy to fool. That’s why you believe stuff that is purest nonsense.

    The hate comes first. You are hate-filled, boiling cauldrons of bile. You want to hate Obama, and need reasons. So you’ll believe anything.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever homosexual (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But you think homosexuality is an awful thing, so you accept utterly bogus rumors so you that can hate him.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever a practicing Muslim (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But the Obama haters have found dozens of “proofs,” all of which are nonsense, that he was (and is.) And since you are determined to hate our President, you accept them.

    No President’s past has been as thoroughly researched as President Obama’s. We know he was born in Hawaii, is a natural-born citizen, is a Constitutional scholar, etc. And yet you need to hate him, so you claim his past is fictional, we don’t know who he really is, was a lousy student, etc. Anything you need to hate him, you believe.

    You are like the woman who shared a microphone with John McCain who called Obama a Muslim, and Arab, and he couldn’t stand it any longer. He said “No, he’s not.” Because even the advantage he might have gotten wasn’t worth lowering himself to the level of people like her. And you.

    Nobody sane believes any of the garbage you happily embrace, the swill you spew on these pages, the smears you repeat. If the nonsense you said above weren’t political, it would be considered the ravings of a psychotic.

    I enjoy nothing so much as imagining the next few decades, with you suspecting and then obsessively denying the truth about Barack Obama, that posterity will record, that will make you absolutely furious.

  47. avatar
    JPotter January 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

    LW: The “IMAGE” linked to has nothing to do with what he purports it to be. The title of the pamphlet is “how to make a dental dam.”

    LW, I hate to break it to you, but dental dams have, uh, more than one use. They’re not just employed by dental professionals in a clinical setting.

  48. avatar
    sfjeff January 3, 2013 at 4:39 pm #

    Thomas Brown: To LisPendens and Unbelievable (and others… you know who you are):Knowledge is the enemy of Hate.That’s why you are so easy to fool. That’s why you believe stuff that is purest nonsense.The hate comes first. You are hate-filled, boiling cauldrons of bile. You want to hate Obama, and need reasons. So you’ll believe anything.There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever homosexual (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But you think homosexuality is an awful thing, so you accept utterly bogus rumors so you that can hate him. There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever a practicing Muslim (not that there’s anything wrong with that). But the Obama haters have found dozens of “proofs,” all of which are nonsense, that he was (and is.) And since you are determined to hate our President, you accept them.No President’s past has been as thoroughly researched as President Obama’s. We know he was born in Hawaii, is a natural-born citizen, is a Constitutional scholar, etc. And yet you need to hate him, so you claim his past is fictional, we don’t know who he really is, was a lousy student, etc. Anything you need to hate him, you believe.You are like the woman who shared a microphone with John McCain who called Obama a Muslim, and Arab, and he couldn’t stand it any longer. He said “No, he’s not.” Because even the advantage he might have gotten wasn’t worth lowering himself to the level of people like her. And you.Nobody sane believes any of the garbage you happily embrace, the swill you spew on these pages, the smears you repeat. If the nonsense you said above weren’t political, it would be considered the ravings of a psychotic.I enjoy nothing so much as imagining the next few decades, with you suspecting and then obsessively denying the truth about Barack Obama, that posterity will record, that will make you absolutely furious.

    Nicely put.

    Why do the Birthers always read like they are literally foaming at the mouth while they type their hate speech?

  49. avatar
    Greenfinches January 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

    I’ve been away a couple of weeks, and come back to find a timewarp has hit the birthers.

    Miscreant? Is that what they think the President is? Surely a rather old fashioned word…..they have nothing better to put forward?

    and all these crimes they say he has committed; other than Presidenting Whilst Black, the evidence in support is more than thin.

    Poor we lambs, they must be in despair.

  50. avatar
    chancery January 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

    Fogbow is down. Anyone remember the url of Foggy’s backup site?

  51. avatar
    richCares January 3, 2013 at 5:30 pm #

    fogbow is overloaded, does that mean Orly exploded?
    as they are down please pass on any info you have

  52. avatar
    Sef January 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    JPotter: First lesson, first day of corporate accounting. Do not throw good money after bad. Maintain objectivity. Identify sources of loss, and cut them off.

    First lesson in Engineering Economy is the concept of “sunk cost”. Most people have no understanding of this.

  53. avatar
    BillTheCat January 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm #

    I dunno – FB has handled higher traffic than this – I suspect birther DDossing

  54. avatar
    DaveH January 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

    http://birtherdebunkers.net

    chancery:
    Fogbow is down. Anyone remember the url of Foggy’s backup site?

  55. avatar
    chancery January 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm #

    Thanks DaveH.

  56. avatar
    BillTheCat January 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

    Yeh, they are definitely getting attacked. How adorable, the birthers want to be Anonymous! Too bad it won’t stop the news flowing about Orly’s loss.

    Also, the birther debunkers site is also under attack.

  57. avatar
    DaveH January 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    Yep. Something is going on. Just have to wait for RC Radio. It’s not like the news of her hearing will disappear. For that matter, I am sure the hearing is already over and Orly is giving her press conference to some RWNJ with a YouTube channel.

  58. avatar
    Sef January 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    BillTheCat:
    Yeh, they are definitely getting attacked. How adorable, the birthers want to be Anonymous! Too bad it won’t stop the news flowing about Orly’s loss.

    Also, the birther debunkers site is also under attack.

    The message that came up when TFB went down was about a DB connection problem, so I doubt another URL would resolve the issue.

  59. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm #

    JPotter: They’re not just employed by dental professionals in a clinical setting.

    You mean like Dr. Orly………

    Oh, oh.

  60. avatar
    Paul January 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

    I don’t think it’s a DDOS. Foggy said he was experimenting and if too many people signed on and it crashed the system he would revisit the decision.

  61. avatar
    BillTheCat January 3, 2013 at 6:08 pm #

    Well that’s unfortunate on a day like this… Oh well :p guess we wait until tonight then.

  62. avatar
    Thinker January 3, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

    The Fogbow has gone down in the past when too many people were in the chatroom. I’m sure that’s the cause of today’s outage as well.

  63. avatar
    G January 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm #

    Seconded!

    Horus:
    It just burns your birfer asses to know that no one gives a shit about what you think and believe!

    Get over yourselves, you lost the election to a man that a Majority of Americans hold in higher regard that they do you.

    Get that fact through your thick skull, no matter what you say it does not matter to us. We elected the best man for the job of leading this country!

    If it bothers you so much, there’s the border, you are free to leave whenever you want, and don’t come back, our country is better off without you.

    And I mean you lis pendens!
    And you unbelievable!

  64. avatar
    G January 3, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

    BRAVO!!! Well said, every word of it!

    Thomas Brown:
    To LisPendens and Unbelievable (and others… you know who you are):

    Knowledge is the enemy of Hate.

    That’s why you are so easy to fool.That’s why you believe stuff that is purest nonsense.

    The hate comes first.You are hate-filled, boiling cauldrons of bile. You want to hate Obama, and need reasons.So you’ll believe anything.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever homosexual (not that there’s anything wrong with that).But you think homosexuality is an awful thing, so you accept utterly bogus rumors so you that can hate him.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama was ever a practicing Muslim (not that there’s anything wrong with that).But the Obama haters have found dozens of “proofs,” all of which are nonsense, that he was (and is.)And since you are determined to hate our President, you accept them.

    No President’s past has been as thoroughly researched as President Obama’s.We know he was born in Hawaii, is a natural-born citizen, is a Constitutional scholar, etc.And yet you need to hate him, so you claim his past is fictional, we don’t know who he really is, was a lousy student, etc.Anything you need to hate him, you believe.

    You are like the woman who shared a microphone with John McCain who called Obama a Muslim, and Arab, and he couldn’t stand it any longer.He said “No, he’s not.”Because even the advantage he might have gotten wasn’t worth lowering himself to the level of people like her.And you.

    Nobody sane believes any of the garbage you happily embrace, the swill you spew on these pages, the smears you repeat.If the nonsense you said above weren’t political, it would be considered the ravings of a psychotic.

    I enjoy nothing so much as imagining the next few decades, with you suspecting and then obsessively denying the truth about Barack Obama, that posterity will record, that will make you absolutely furious.

  65. avatar
    G January 3, 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    Still not the same as “fisting”…not even close.. which is the whole point LW was making.

    JPotter: LW, I hate to break it to you, but dental dams have, uh, more than one use. They’re not just employed by dental professionals in a clinical setting.

  66. avatar
    Plutodog January 3, 2013 at 6:21 pm #

    My gawd, they’ve killed The Fogbow! Cant get in!

  67. avatar
    Paul January 3, 2013 at 6:21 pm #

    BillTheCat:
    Well that’s unfortunate on a day like this… Oh well :p guess we wait until tonight then.

    Well it’s not like we don’t know what’s going to happen!!!! lol

  68. avatar
    Paul January 3, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    Plutodog:
    My gawd, they’ve killed The Fogbow! Cant get in!

    Those bastards! THEY KILLED FOGGY!

  69. avatar
    donna January 3, 2013 at 6:29 pm #

    misha marinsky: Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

    CarlOrcas: haven’t gotten my direct deposit yet. Have you?

    soros and i live spitting distance from each other – he just pays my real estate and school taxes directly along with his

  70. avatar
    donna January 3, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

    RC Radio: FOgbow is down. I will post any updates from the Grinols hearing here.: The Fogbow forum crashed… http://dlvr.it/2l4RSw #birthers

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    Rickey January 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm #

    lis pendens:

    The evidence is in! The “miscreant” has no character that would be acceptable to the Judeo, Christian ethic

    Agreed. The guy has been married just once, to the same woman for 20 years! At the rate he is going, he will never catch up to the likes of fine upstanding Christians such as Ronald Reagan, John McCain and Newt Gingrich.

    For more of disgusting miscreant activities! Americans need to see the ‘miscreant’ as a person with no moral character as shown by the following revelations of his providing school children with ‘FISTING KITS’.Fisting kits are used to enable children to insert their hands into another child’s anus.

    That’s no surprise. We know that fisting is all the rage in Massachusetts schools. Somebody had to show those poor kids how to do it.

    All in all… Americans unknowingly voted for the most devious morally corrupt individual on planet earth.

    Au contraire. I did it knowingly. Call me a moral weakling, but I couldn’t turn down the pile of cash which Soros sent me. On the bright side, I just bought a house on the beach in the Cayman Islands, so from now on Obama is your problem.

  72. avatar
    CarlOrcas January 3, 2013 at 8:09 pm #

    donna:
    misha marinsky: Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

    CarlOrcas: haven’t gotten my direct deposit yet. Have you?

    soros and i live spitting distance from each other – he just pays my real estate and school taxes directly along with his

    I’m beginning to get suspicious. You get your taxes paid, Misha and Rickey get cash. Something’s not right……so to speak.

  73. avatar
    donna January 3, 2013 at 10:12 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’m beginning to get suspicious. You get your taxes paid, Misha and Rickey get cash. Something’s not right……so to speak.

    lol ……….. you’re just not doing something the right way ……so to speak.

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    Majority Will January 3, 2013 at 10:59 pm #

    donna:
    misha marinsky: Thank you. I voted for Obama, twice. I was paid by Soros.

    CarlOrcas: haven’t gotten my direct deposit yet. Have you?

    soros and i live spitting distance from each other – he just pays my real estate and school taxes directly along with his

    Uncle George is so generous.

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    Rickey January 3, 2013 at 11:46 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’m beginning to get suspicious. You get your taxes paid, Misha and Rickey get cash. Something’s not right……so to speak.

    Yeah, but you live in Arizona. If you want to get paid, you have to move to a blue state.

  76. avatar
    misha marinsky January 3, 2013 at 11:50 pm #

    Rickey: Yeah, but you live in Arizona. If you want to get paid, you have to move to a blue state.

    bada-bing

  77. avatar
    aesthetocyst January 4, 2013 at 1:29 am #

    The photo of Irey running with the AP report on today’s case is classic! Awww, those lonely “exhibits.” We hardly knew ye.

  78. avatar
    LW January 4, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

    Taitz appeared to be upset after the hearing as supporters filed past her to thank her for pursuing the case, some calling her a “hero,” and others saying the judge’s decision was evidence of socialism.

    I hope someone remembered to bring the orange slices.

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    LW January 4, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

    G: Still not the same as “fisting”…not even close.. which is the whole point LW was making.

    Presumably their weird little brains got to “FISTING” because a glove was used as raw material. What a bunch of self-loathing gutter-minded maroons they are.

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    Horus January 4, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    Rickey: Yeah, but you live in Arizona. If you want to get paid, you have to move to a blue state.

    I was wondering why I did not get my payment for my Obama vote.
    I live in AZ too.
    Damn this red state!

  81. avatar
    Rickey January 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    Horus: I was wondering why I did not get my payment for my Obama vote.
    I live in AZ too.
    Damn this red state!

    We blue state Obots are living large these days.

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    aesthetocyst January 4, 2013 at 4:00 pm #

    G:
    Still not the same as “fisting”…not even close.. which is the whole point LW was making.

    And that wasn’t my point either. My point is that the photo wasn’t entirely off. What’s off is that sanctimonious wingers are so knowledgeable about ‘deviant’ sex, automatically assume what a said dental dam is to be used for (or just saw lubricant and a glove and ran with it), and so gleefully spread the assumption around … to willing believers! And the extra details. Of course they accuse the standard bogeymen, right from central casting …. gay man and Planned Parenthood.

    Challenge a winger to name any other family planning service. They won’t even know there are others.

  83. avatar
    Keith January 4, 2013 at 6:42 pm #

    Rickey: Yeah, but you live in Arizona. If you want to get paid, you have to move to a blue state.

    Or wait ’till November 2014.