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Taitz DC protest draws at least 9 people

Orly Taitz recounts the story [link to Taitz web site] of her protest at the Supreme Court yesterday, saying:

My supporters from Tennessee, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New York, California, Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey  and DC were there.

She never says how many, but this makes at least nine.

She also talked to clerks at the Supreme Court who refused to let her see the original signature where her petition was denied. She of course lets us know that they were African-American, and one looked Turkish.

Taitz called the protest a success. Here’s the video:

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114 Responses to Taitz DC protest draws at least 9 people

  1. avatar
    realist February 13, 2013 at 9:06 am #

    https://twitter.com/gzornick/status/301371257843245056/photo/1

    Just sayin’.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG February 13, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    It was a success much in the same way soy bacon is just as good as real bacon. ;)

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    aarrgghh February 13, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    doc: “She never says how many, but this makes at least nine.”

    not necessarily. i myself can say i’m from ma, ny & pa … so she could be talking about one much-travelled birfoon.

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 13, 2013 at 9:55 am #

    Ever hear the song Flagalapa?

    aarrgghh: not necessarily. i myself can say i’m from ma, ny & pa … so she could be talking about one much-travelled birfoon.

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    JoZeppy February 13, 2013 at 10:20 am #

    A friend of mine who works at the Court counted 3 (including Taitz), before lunch. Of course it is possible that her numbers “swelled” to 9 before they walked over to the Capital.

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    JPotter February 13, 2013 at 10:20 am #

    I imagine the Orlellian definition of ‘supporter’ is quite loose.

    Any and all possible innuendo intended.

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    US Citizen February 13, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    Well she DID want nine people in DC to believe her. ;-)

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    scott e February 13, 2013 at 10:39 am #

    when it get’s bigger, no one will be able to say it wasn’t grass roots.

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    misha marinsky February 13, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    “She of course lets us know that they were African-American, and one looked Turkish.”

    Orly: If you read this, you are a shonde who shames us all.

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    Andrew Morris February 13, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    Unquestionably she’s a racist, though sometimes she tries to back off, such as when she gets all excited about ultra-conservative African-Americans like Clarence Thomas, and that doctor who spoke at the Prayer event. But otherwise, well, her comments above are one example. Another is when she complained about people at the CA court offices having Spanish names and made some comemnt about a banana republic. Which shows that as well as not knowing anything about US law, she also doesn’t know anything about the history of the state that she lives in.

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    J.D. Sue February 13, 2013 at 11:06 am #

    Taitz encourages students to look her up on the internet, where they will see her label their teacher an Obama-Nazi. This women is a horrid witch.

    “There was a large group of high School students, who wanted to know the truth, we showed them the documents, the students we bright eyed and were absorbing the information, however their Obama-Nazi teacher told them to stop talking to us and leave. The students said that they will look up on the net.”

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    The Magic M February 13, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    Andrew Morris: when she gets all excited about ultra-conservative African-Americans like Clarence Thomas

    Does she? I remember her repeatedly attacking Thomas about the “we’re evading that issue” comment.

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    richCares February 13, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    9 People? That’s a record breaking crowd for birthers. There were 3 at her last protest so the movement is growing, by 2024 there may be as many as 24 birthers for protests.

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    Andrew Morris February 13, 2013 at 11:39 am #

    Yes, but she gets all wobbly about stong black men who pull the ladder up after them

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    aarrgghh February 13, 2013 at 11:58 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: “Ever hear the song Flagalapa?”

    no, but i managed to find this rendition on youtube:

    She calls her Papa.
    Fla Ga La Pa.
    Fla Ga La Pa is his name.
    She calls her papa.
    Fla Ga La Pa,
    and he calls her the same.
    Cause she met him in Fla
    Kissed him in Ga
    Married in La
    and settled in Pa.
    She calls her Papa.
    Fla Ga La Pa.
    Fla Ga La Pa is his name.

    cute.

  16. avatar
    Bob February 13, 2013 at 12:07 pm #

    “She of course lets us know that they were African-American, and one looked Turkish.”

    She’s not even pretending any more.

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    clestes February 13, 2013 at 12:12 pm #

    I have to wonder at what her definition of a success. It must be staying out of jail everytime she opens her mouth. She should have been sanctioned into silience years ago not to mention disbarred.

    50 years from now there is going to be a lot of head scratching over the whole Birther phenom and wondering what was in the water.

  18. avatar
    Bob February 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    Her protest was not a success in any way, shape, or form. I have to wonder if there’s not some other reason she keeps going to Washington.

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    misha marinsky February 13, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    Bob: “She of course lets us know that they were African-American, and one looked Turkish.”

    She’s not even pretending any more.

    Remember, she refused a taxi because the driver was an Arab:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vNpXJxpu48

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    The Magic M February 13, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    richCares: by 2024 there may be as many as 24 birthers for protests

    Unless the number grows exponentially, but we all know what the chances of that happening are. ;)

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    Andrew Morris February 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm #

    She really is a disgusting piece of work. How would she react if someone – anyone – came up to her kids on a school trip and babbled on in a strange accent? But (cracked record again) I am more and more doubtful about her law degree. To get through the exams, you have to know certain things. These include constitutional law, separation of powers, role of the courts, civil procedure and evidence, discovery, use of subpoenas, service, time limits, standing – which, incidentally, is so narrowly defined largely because of the efforts of the SCOTUS conservatives, not least Roberts. . And it is so clear that she knows nothing about any of this. So how did she pass? This isn’t an irrelevant concern. Lawyers have powers and privileges, and I think it’s reasonable to doubt whether it was Taitz who submitted assignments, sat the exams etc. With online courses, there is no way for them to verify identity.

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    Norbrook February 13, 2013 at 3:11 pm #

    She’d better hope that they don’t look her up on the internet. :lol: Right after her web site, Google shows a nice listing of articles saying “about to be sanctioned,” “lying to judge,” and links to Wonkette and HuffPo, among others, all of which don’t portray her as anything but an entertaining loon, with a dash of sedition and racism.

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    justlw February 13, 2013 at 3:25 pm #

    scott e:
    when it get’s bigger, no one will be able to say it wasn’t grass roots.

    Let’s see:

    Started in 2008, 200+ lawsuits filed, 0 won.

    Birthapalooza scheduled and canceled.

    Various rallies slated, drawing less than 10 people. To be charitable.

    Birther debate podcasts scheduled, marked by notable lack of representation on the birther side.

    Arpaio goes full metal birther. Main effect: even birthers wonder why.

    Donald Trump goes full metal birther. Main effect: [video]

    President re-elected by majority of voters.

    I think it’s safe to say that there’s more “grass” than “roots” to this.

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    justlw February 13, 2013 at 3:28 pm #

    aarrgghh: no, but i managed to find this rendition on youtube:

    cute.

    Fa love Pa!

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    alg February 13, 2013 at 3:29 pm #

    Well, given that one can appropriately regard birthers as half-wits, my count is only four and a half protesters.

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    JPotter February 13, 2013 at 3:42 pm #

    The Magic M: Unless the number grows exponentially, but we all know what the chances of that happening are.

    alg:
    Well, given that one can appropriately regard birthers as half-wits, my count is only four and a half protesters.

    Hmmm … 4.5 = 20.25 you guys may be on to something!

    Square root of 9 is 4.9. Perhaps a birfer is 54% of a wit. ;)

  27. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG February 13, 2013 at 4:01 pm #

    Orly Taitz is actually an alias! “Her” real identity is “Wimp-Lo” A Chinese male, who was purposely taught that losing = winning, as a joke. He is master of the ” I am bleeding, therefore I am the victor!” Kung Fu style.

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    scott e February 13, 2013 at 6:44 pm #

    what did she have at the last rally 2 ? how many this time 9 ?? look at the exponential growth, she just needs a good pr firm. you all should be helping her. the more successful she is… the more fun all of you will have, you know,.. making fun of her.

    but now i think she’s tapped into something you cannot stop. all of you should have walked away from it a long time ago. don’t forget that your interest in this, is what keeps me interested, i always wondered why certain behaviora, still do.

    abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??

    so you can’t block the wind, and you can’t step into the same river twice.
    it’s never too late to change your mind…

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    misha marinsky February 13, 2013 at 7:41 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: It was a success much in the same way soy bacon is just as good as real bacon.

    “I can’t believe it’s not butter bacon.”

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    Majority Will February 13, 2013 at 7:51 pm #

    justlw: Fa love Pa!

    Nice.

  31. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion February 13, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

    scott e:
    when it get’s bigger, no one will be able to say it wasn’t grass roots.

    It’s been almost four and a half years. There has never been a birther rally more than *maybe* three digits.

    If it didn’t happen years ago, I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

    Yeah, it’s “grass roots”. So is crabgrass.

  32. avatar
    Daniel February 13, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

    scott e:

    but now i think she’s tapped into something you cannot stop. all of you should have walked away from it a long time ago. don’t forget that your interest in this, is what keeps me interested, i always wondered why certain behaviora, still do.

    For the same reason people stare at a car crash. Idle fascination.

    Orly is a car crash in slow motion, years in the making. There’s no doubt at all how it’s going to turn out, but you just can’t look away.

  33. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion February 13, 2013 at 9:48 pm #

    scott e:
    what did she have at the last rally 2 ? how many this time 9 ?? look at the exponential growth, she just needs a good pr firm. you all should be helping her. the more successful she is… the more fun all of you will have, you know,.. making fun of her.

    but now i think she’s tapped into something you cannot stop. all of you should have walked away from it a long time ago. don’t forget that your interest in this, is what keeps me interested, i always wondered why certain behaviora, still do.

    abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??

    so you can’t block the wind, and you can’t step into the same river twice.it’s never too late to change your mind…

    The most populated rally she’s ever had, when she was running for office, was still under 50 people.

    Tenacity doesn’t mean one is right. It can often mean one is too stubborn or delusional to acknowledge reality.

    And why would I want to change my mind? I have facts, credible evidence, reality, the law, and the US Constitution on my side. Why would I want to throw that away for a mess of myths, lies, and disproven claims??

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    Arthur February 13, 2013 at 9:51 pm #

    scott e: abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??

    Yes, I agree, Orly has tenacity. So does The Church of Scientology. Tenacity without integrity is no virtue.

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    Paper February 13, 2013 at 10:19 pm #

    Because then you and scott e could become the best of friends?

    Patrick McKinnion:

    I have facts, credible evidence, reality, the law, and the US Constitution on my side. Why would I want to throw that away for a mess of myths, lies, and disproven claims??

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    G February 14, 2013 at 12:48 am #

    *snork* Yah…nearly 5 years into the folly of Birtherism and the “movement” can’t even bring double digit crowds… Sorry Scott, that isn’t “growth” just because one ultra-weak gathering of two is followed by another ultra-weak gathering of 9. That’s simply two EPIC FAIL events of insignificant magnitude, with no other meaningful correlation.

    People laugh at crazy people and car wrecks because they happened. That is simply how it is. Yet at the same time, most decent people do not wish for car wrecks or to have to deal with crazy people at all. They would rather those things not happen in the first place…but when they do…popcorn. Simple as that.

    scott e: what did she have at the last rally 2 ? how many this time 9 ?? look at the exponential growth, she just needs a good pr firm. you all should be helping her. the more successful she is… the more fun all of you will have, you know,.. making fun of her.

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    G February 14, 2013 at 12:53 am #

    Learn cause and effect for once, Scott. We simply observe, sometimes investigate and otherwise just comment on the crazy phenomenon of Birtherism and conspiracy theory nonsense. We are not fans of it by any means and if it went away altogether (it won’t, because severely delusional people are terminal cases), we could find lots of other things to occupy our time. Frankly, I’ve become mostly bored with Birtherism, because it has become so hollow and stale and just the same long debunked and irrelevant nonsense over and over and over again.

    What actually still brings me back here is the interesting community and commentary. When Birtherism dries up sufficiently, I’m hoping Doc will have other topics to cover and that the community will migrate along with it. I know I would.

    scott e: but now i think she’s tapped into something you cannot stop. all of you should have walked away from it a long time ago. don’t forget that your interest in this, is what keeps me interested, i always wondered why certain behaviora, still do.

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    G February 14, 2013 at 12:58 am #

    No, I do not consider the inability to learn from mistakes to be “tenacity” at all.

    Insanity and foolish stubbornness at best.

    Waking up every day and proclaiming “any day now” that the sun will suddenly rise in the west and not the east is folly and madness. Birtherism is akin to that.

    Sticking one’s hand in the fire and getting burned and then repeating such over and over and over again isn’t being “tenacious” at all. That is being stupid and demonstrating no ability to adapt to reality. That is a sign of weakness and not strength.

    The story of Sisyphus is about futility as a cursed punishment…not something to aspire towards…

    *facepalm*

    scott e: abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??

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    G February 14, 2013 at 1:06 am #

    WTF about the wind and river??? That’s just nonsense crazy talk. Of course both of those things can be done.

    In terms of “changing one’s mind”…NOT without actual evidence, which BIrthers have none of…and Obama’s birth story has plenty of in support. So NO, that’s just folly at this point.

    But hey, I guess you are subscribing to a theory of desired “brainwashing”…in other words hoping that if lies are repeated long enough, more people will believe it. Sorry, but that applies to the gullible and weak-minded and to those who were just looking for any outlet to their ODS in the first place. That target base has long filled its potential quota and the air has been leaking out ever since.

    Face it, you Birthers simply wrap yourself in pretend beliefs, based on childish wishful thinking because you can’t deal with and accept how the real world is…that is nothing more than self-delusion Scott…the real world continues on, based on real law and real physical properties, regardless of your imaginary magic thinking…

    scott e: so you can’t block the wind, and you can’t step into the same river twice.
    it’s never too late to change your mind…

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    The Magic M February 14, 2013 at 4:10 am #

    G: That is being stupid and demonstrating no ability to adapt to reality. That is a sign of weakness and not strength.

    But Orly is still alive, so this disproves evolution! ZOMG……!

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    The Magic M February 14, 2013 at 4:15 am #

    JPotter: Hmmm … 4.5 = 20.25 you guys may be on to something!

    3 people, 9 people, 27 people… Somebody tell Orly, at her 18th rally she will have the entire population behind her. *lol*

    scott e: look at the exponential growth

    The problem is that in the real world, you have to look at the entire picture. IIRC, the birther rally numbers were 3, ~9, ~20, ~50, ~150, 3, 9 (starting with Dr Kate’s “usurpathon”, culminating in the Veteran’s Day rally and graciously including Sheriff Joe’s Tea Party event). If anything, there is a cycle, not exponential growth.

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    alg February 14, 2013 at 8:45 am #

    “abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??”

    No…that’s not tenacity.

    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. By any measure of that standard, Orly Taitz is beyond insane.

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    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 9:22 am #

    JPotter: Square root of 24 is 4.9. Perhaps a birfer is 54% of a wit.

    FIFM. (Geeeeez…..)

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    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 9:39 am #

    The Magic M: 3 people, 9 people, 27 people… Somebody tell Orly, at her 18th rally she will have the entire population behind her. *lol*

    No need to be so pessimistic. 2^3.17 = 9. At that rate of exponential growth, the next Taitz rally will have 1,059 people. The next: 3.9 billion. The sixth and final rally will be attended by the population of the entire galaxy.

    Now that is some awesome birfer math.

    Two data points do not a trend define. Unless it’s a straight line. In that case, rally #6 can expect 37 people. With 7 more people every rally after that. She better get to rallyin’ LOL

  45. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 14, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    I have updated the article with Taitz’ video presentation from the DC protext. It appears that 9 is about right.

  46. avatar
    Thomas Brown February 14, 2013 at 10:03 am #

    That guy who filmed himself living with grizzly bears, and who stayed up there until one of them ate him and his girlfriend, had tenacity too.

    Maybe we can convince Orly that wolverines make good pets, as long as you keep at it.

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    The Magic M February 14, 2013 at 11:18 am #

    JPotter: 2^3.17 = 9. At that rate of exponential growth, the next Taitz rally will have 1,059 people. The next: 3.9 billion.

    Exponential growth is a^x with x growing linearly.

    What you have is a recursive series where
    f(n+1) = 2^f(n)
    which grows faster than any pure exponential function
    f(n) = a^(b*n)

    So that is even more optimistic (for birthers) than the hypothetical exponential growth mentioned before.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:35 am #

    The Magic M: Exponential growth is a^x with x growing linearly.

    What you have is a recursive series where
    f(n+1) = 2^f(n)
    which grows faster than any pure exponential function
    f(n) = a^(b*n)

    So that is even more optimistic (for birthers) than the hypothetical exponential growth mentioned before.

    my dad was a math guy. me, not so good.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:36 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I have updated the article with Taitz’ video presentation from the DC protext. It appears that 9 is about right.

    it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

  50. avatar
    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    JPotter: FIFM. (Geeeeez…..)

    i’m reminding you that “Birfer” is a colloquial affectation, thus is as racist.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:39 am #

    The Magic M: 3 people, 9 people, 27 people… Somebody tell Orly, at her 18th rally she will have the entire population behind her. *lol*

    The problem is that in the real world, you have to look at the entire picture. IIRC, the birther rally numbers were 3, ~9, ~20, ~50, ~150, 3, 9 (starting with Dr Kate’s “usurpathon”, culminating in the Veteran’s Day rally and graciously including Sheriff Joe’s Tea Party event). If anything, there is a cycle, not exponential growth.

    you put lol in quotes… i like that. how can you have -negative people ? (mathematically)

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    alg:
    “abd she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??”

    No…that’s not tenacity.

    Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. By any measure of that standard, Orly Taitz is beyond insane.

    that’s just what you want people to think.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:43 am #

    G:
    WTF about the wind and river???That’s just nonsense crazy talk.Of course both of those things can be done.

    In terms of “changing one’s mind”…NOT without actual evidence, which BIrthers have none of…and Obama’s birth story has plenty of in support.So NO, that’s just folly at this point.

    But hey, I guess you are subscribing to a theory of desired “brainwashing”…in other words hoping that if lies are repeated long enough, more people will believe it.Sorry, but that applies to the gullible and weak-minded and to those who were just looking for any outlet to their ODS in the first place.That target base has long filled its potential quota and the air has been leaking out ever since.

    Face it, you Birthers simply wrap yourself in pretend beliefs, based on childish wishful thinking because you can’t deal with and accept how the real world is…that is nothing more than self-delusion Scott…the real world continues on, based on real law and real physical properties, regardless of your imaginary magic thinking…

    i’ll stand by my proverbs…

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:48 am #

    G:
    Learn cause and effect for once, Scott.We simply observe, sometimes investigate and otherwise just comment on the crazy phenomenon of Birtherism and conspiracy theory nonsense.We are not fans of it by any means and if it went away altogether (it won’t, because severely delusional people are terminal cases), we could find lots of other things to occupy our time.Frankly, I’ve become mostly bored with Birtherism, because it has become so hollow and stale and just the same long debunked and irrelevant nonsense over and over and over again.

    What actually still brings me back here is the interesting community and commentary.When Birtherism dries up sufficiently, I’m hoping Doc will have other topics to cover and that the community will migrate along with it.I know I would.

    that’s kind of the point. people who are bored, normally gravitate towards(s) something interesting after five years. take woodman for instance. i have always thought antibirthers had an agenda. that’s what i meant by “too professional”.

  55. avatar
    scott e February 14, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    Patrick McKinnion: The most populated rally she’s ever had, when she was running for office, was still under 50 people.

    Tenacity doesn’t mean one is right. It can often mean one is too stubborn or delusional to acknowledge reality.

    And why would I want to change my mind? I have facts, credible evidence, reality, the law, and the US Constitution on my side. Why would I want to throw that away for a mess of myths, lies, and disproven claims??

    that’s what i’m here to find out.

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    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 1:09 pm #

    The Magic M: So that is even more optimistic (for birthers) than the hypothetical exponential growth mentioned before.

    Exactly, thank you for putting it so formally. I was trying to spoof a birther attempt at math, how they would make a simple error that produced extremely positive (yet ridiculous) results, but then go with it because they liked it.

    … as scott did with the reported turnouts of 2 and 9. Any number of functions could pass through (1,2) and (2,9). Pick a profile and make it fit.

    To be honest, scott should consider turnout of past events, and plot them against time.

    But that trend doesn’t look good at all, now does it? LOL!

  57. avatar
    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

    scott e: i’m reminding you that “Birfer” is a colloquial affectation, thus is as racist.

    You’re asserting that birfers are a racial group? I have been assured by some of your fellow birfers that birfers happily take all comers. You guys need to get together on that.

    And yes, you better believe it’s colloquial. You’ve worked hard for it, and deserve it.

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    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    scott e: you put lol in quotes… i like that. how can you have -negative people ? (mathematically)

    Tildes do not indicate negative quantity. * triple facepalm with a half-twist *

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    JPotter February 14, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    scott e: Patrick McKinnion: And why would I want to change my mind? I have facts, credible evidence, reality, the law, and the US Constitution on my side. Why would I want to throw that away for a mess of myths, lies, and disproven claims??

    that’s what i’m here to find out.

    You’re hear to find out why people would change their minds, and reject reality for “a mess of myths, lies, and disproven claims??”

    Welcome to anti-birfin’, and congratulations on your recovery.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 2:46 pm #

    JPotter: You’re asserting that birfers are a racial group? I have been assured by some of your fellow birfers that birfers happily take all comers. You guys need to get together on that.

    And yes, you better believe it’s colloquial. You’ve worked hard for it, and deserve it.

    no, i mean “birfer” mocks black pronounciation. it’s in the neighborhood of “bafroom”, “birf certificate” or “axe” for ask…. it’s not very classy to ridicule.

    i mean do whatever you want, but if i used it in that manor, it would be flagged as racist.

    doc and fogbow use it too, lots of people do, i don’t think they know though. i’ve explained all this here before.

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    scott e February 14, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    JPotter: Exactly, thank you for putting it so formally. I was trying to spoof a birther attempt at math, how they would make a simple error that produced extremely positive (yet ridiculous) results, but then go with it because they liked it.

    … as scott did with the reported turnouts of 2 and 9. Any number of functions could pass through (1,2) and (2,9). Pick a profile and make it fit.

    To be honest, scott should consider turnout of past events, and plot them against time.

    But that trend doesn’t look good at all, now does it? LOL!

    i guess i missed the lampoon, sorry. i’ll look harder next time.

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    Arthur February 14, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    Hardly the dead of winter. In Washington, D.C. On Tuesday, the high was 58, with a low of 41. Where I live that’s spring.

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    Rickey February 14, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    scott e:

    she’s got tenacity, all of you will admit that right ??

    The Washington Generals had tenacity. They played and lost to the Harlem Globetrotters more than 13.000 times.

    The difference between the Washington Generals and Orly Taitz is that the Generals won six games.

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    Rickey February 14, 2013 at 3:22 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    Thousands of protestors showed up on a “bitterly cold day” in Moscow last month to protest the recent adoption ban.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/world/europe/thousands-of-russians-rally-against-adoption-ban.html?_r=0

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    ScottRS February 14, 2013 at 3:23 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    Uh, yeah, February 26, 2011, still very much winter where we live (9 degrees F when it started; about 18 degrees F when it was over), more than 100,000 people gathered on the Capitol Square in Madison, WI for a protest. That’s nearly 98,000 more people than have ever turned up to all birther events, collectively.

  66. avatar
    Rickey February 14, 2013 at 3:27 pm #

    My supporters from Tennessee, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New York, California, Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey and DC were there.

    No one from Connecticut, I see. Apparently that crusading “journalist” Sharon Rondeau was too busy to make the trip.

    Speaking of Connecticut, why hasn’t Obama been arrested there yet?

  67. avatar
    DaveH February 14, 2013 at 3:28 pm #

    It is not what we want to think. It is what we know. The definition of insanity IS doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Orly Taitz would be just as successful hitting herself continously in the head with a hammer as she is in litigating her delusions. She claims that others have damaged her reputation when it is she that has damaged her reputation (if she ever had one).

    But I do have this suggestion. If you think she’s such a great attorney, why don’t you hire her to take care of some legal matter for you sometime in the future. It doesn’t have to be a criminal. Maybe you’ll need a good probate attorney or something trademarked? I challenge you to hire Orly Taitz to do something that is extremely easy regarding the law and watch how bad she f’s it up.

    scott e: that’s just what you want people to think.

  68. avatar
    gorefan February 14, 2013 at 3:29 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    In January, 1973, at least 25,000 people showed up to protest the war in Vietnam and President Nixon’s inauguration.

  69. avatar
    Arthur February 14, 2013 at 3:42 pm #

    Rickey: Speaking of Connecticut, why hasn’t Obama been arrested there yet?

    Any day now!

  70. avatar
    DryInk February 14, 2013 at 4:07 pm #

    Taitz DC protest draws at least 9 people

    Taitz DC protest draws at MOST 9 people

    FIFY.

  71. avatar
    Northland10 February 14, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    Just like the Boston Tea Party. Oh wait, that was December. Never mind.

  72. avatar
    sfjeff February 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

    http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48306&p=279070

    Eritreans in Washington DC held a large protest rally – Friday, Feb. 8

    Eritreans were able to bring 3 times as many as Taitz to a rally in DC.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/activists-arrested-at-white-house-protesting-keystone-pipeline/2013/02/13/8f0f1066-75fa-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_story_1.html

    Then there were the Keystone protestors- maybe Daryl Hannah was too busy with that to join Taitz in the ‘bitter cold’? 5 times more got arrested at that protest than Orly could get to show up.

    poor Orly.

  73. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater February 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm #

    scott e: no, i mean “birfer” mocks black pronounciation. it’s in the neighborhood of “bafroom”, “birf certificate” or “axe” for ask…. it’s not very classy to ridicule.

    i mean do whatever you want, but if i used it in that manor, it would be flagged as racist.

    doc and fogbow use it too, lots of people do, i don’t think they know though. i’ve explained all this here before.

    Obviously you don’t know many black people as that’s nothing like “black pronunciation”

  74. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater February 14, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

    scott e: you put lol in quotes… i like that. how can you have -negative people ? (mathematically)

    You might want to get your eyes checked that’s not a negative

  75. avatar
    donna February 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    5500 attended a Connecticut gun control rally demanding lawmakers toughen gun laws

  76. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG February 14, 2013 at 7:46 pm #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    Got any more nuggets for us, Excuse-o The Clown?

  77. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater February 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Got any more nuggets for us, Excuse-o The Clown?

    It’s obviously Frank Arduini’s fault

  78. avatar
    scott e February 14, 2013 at 8:36 pm #

    orly has a pr problem not a truth problem, remember the sixties ??

  79. avatar
    aesthetocyst February 14, 2013 at 8:39 pm #

    scott e: no, i mean “birfer” mocks black pronounciation. it’s in the neighborhood of “bafroom”, “birf certificate” or “axe” for ask….

    Now, see, that was racist. Substitution of the cluster ‘th’ with ‘f’ is a reference to a lisp resulting from misaligned teeth, and taps into a myriad of crude associations. In short, it’s shorthand for “birtherism is stupid”. Birfers may be otherwise wonderful people, but while birfin’, they are morons.

    scott e: …. it’s not very classy to ridicule.

    Who’s interested in being classy? This is birferism we’re talking about. “Classy” got nothing to do with anything birfy.

    scott e: if i used it in that manor

    Which manor? Wayne Manor?

    scott e: doc and fogbow use it too,

    I don’t know much of anything about the fogbow, but I am pretty sure Doc does not employ the Dreaded Epithet (that’s what his thugs and flunkies are for). At least, I haven’t seen it. Maybe he did in the past. He’s quite an upstanding fellow.

    scott e: i’ve explained all this here before.

    Yeah, you do tend to whine.

    We could take another tack and call you guys “birders”, but that’d be all kinds of wrong.

  80. avatar
    scott e February 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater: It’s obviously Frank Arduini’s fault

    i got frank on the other line… @pf

  81. avatar
    scott e February 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater: Obviously you don’t know many black people as that’s nothing like “black pronunciation”

    i have black children in my immediate family, i love them dearly. and how is it “obvious” that i don’t know many black people ?? do you mean “i couldn’t possibly” know any ?? who are you to decide. is that the kind of logic that is so popular here ??

  82. avatar
    G February 14, 2013 at 9:26 pm #

    Yet Obama’s 2013 Inauguration brought in over a million people to celebrate…

    Sorry Scott, but this, plus the other numerous and easy to come up with winter rally and protest examples others have given you all show that it is not that hard to get a very sizable group of people to show up and stand outside for hours, even in the “dead of winter”, when they have an interest in something…

    …Just shows how dead and lame Birtherism is…and how most Birtherism is nothing but a bunch of hollow bluster from a bunch of (either cowardly or lazy or immoble) keyboard commandos.

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

  83. avatar
    G February 14, 2013 at 9:48 pm #

    No. That’s just how a lot of people actually DO think, in reality.

    I find it sad that you can’t grasp how others behave and think and can only project your own limitations of both desiring and being susceptible to propaganda on others…

    There is a big difference between wanting to simply ensure that accurate facts and a correct record are available to correct misinformation and lies (which is all Birtherism is) and trying to “sway” people.

    I rebut you not because I care about trying to influence your mind (personally, I think you are hopelessly locked in irrational thinking) but merely as a simple rebuttal of the nonsense you peddle.

    scott e: that’s just what you want people to think.

    Go for it. Keep your head in the sand. How’s that working out for you…

    Hey, you can keep cheering Mad Orly and chant “Any.Day.Now” until the cows come home…

    …But none of that changes the actual history of the failed Birther movement, its utter lack of competence and evidence and its sheer inane and offensive futility.

    scott e: i’ll stand by my proverbs…

    Beyond such things as interest / entertainment / frustration in regards to why crazy people and immature sore losers act and behave the way they do, or an interest in doing actual fact-checking and investigation of truth, the other primary motives (or as you call it) “agenda” of anti-birthers is a rejection of intolerance, untruths and concern about incitement of unstable angry people to cause harm and damage…

    Considering that just about all anti-birtherism is nothing but pure “hobby” without profit, there really isn’t any “professionalism” to it…as it isn’t at all a “profession”. Even this site is nothing more than a retired hobbyists endeavor by Doc C. A well done one, yes…but a hobby nonetheless.

    What you see as “professionalism” on our side is nothing more than the contrast between how rational and intelligent adult people can discuss and assess issues compared to the incompetence and irrational screeds from Birthers…

    That pretty much sums anti-birtherism up.

    Unlike Birtherism, where the motives have been irrational fear/hate, bigotry, intolerance, propaganda, con artist profiteering, wishful rejection of reality and a foolish attempt to influence an election.

    scott e: that’s kind of the point. people who are bored, normally gravitate towards(s) something interesting after five years. take woodman for instance. i have always thought antibirthers had an agenda. that’s what i meant by “too professional”.

  84. avatar
    G February 14, 2013 at 9:52 pm #

    Gee…nearly five years into the ever failing and ever flailing movement of Birtherism hasn’t clued you in at all I see… face it, if you haven’t “found out” by now, it ain’t gonna happen… and I’m not just talking about the nonsense of Birtherism itself, but also about its “potential” as a “movement”…

    I guess some folks are just eternally clueless…

    *face palm*

    scott e: that’s what i’m here to find out.

  85. avatar
    Rickey February 14, 2013 at 9:52 pm #

    G:
    Yet Obama’s 2013 Inauguration brought in over a million people to celebrate…

    Sorry Scott, but this, plus the other numerous and easy to come up with winter rally and protest examples others have given you all show that it is not that hard to get a very sizable group of people to show up and stand outside for hours, even in the “dead of winter”, when they have an interest in something…

    …Just shows how dead and lame Birtherism is…and how most Birtherism is nothing but a bunch of hollow bluster from a bunch of (either cowardly or lazy or immoble) keyboard commandos.

    D.C. is only an 8-9 hour drive from Vermont, but apparently Scott had more important things to do than actually support Orly’s latest fail.

  86. avatar
    G February 14, 2013 at 9:59 pm #

    Again, WTF?? There is really something “damaged” about a mind that makes up a connection between the term “Birfer” and sees some sort of “black speak to it”…

    That’s just sad and says more about you and how you “imagine” black people to talk than anything else…

    The way I’ve seen the term “Birfer” most often described and explained is the association to “baby talk”…in other words, a term that reflects the infantile tantrum attitude and cry-baby sore-loser immaturity of Birtherism…

    See such popular associated image examples with the term:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=QVnT7AaUaKf9hM&tbnid=dGwF38SZsd8F9M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdemocratsforprogress.com%2Fforum%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Fthread-2309.html&ei=2aMdUbqBDMrq2AXVxoHIDg&bvm=bv.42553238,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNE-xbxAHXHdijhNqnwty34M6PKSnw&ust=1360983366405248

    http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&tbo=d&gl=us&biw=1366&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=E_hxQqZYwDkF2M:&imgrefurl=http://theobamadiary.com/2011/03/29/birther-busters/&docid=End6G6rGIWviwM&imgurl=http://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/birfer-baby-case.jpg%253Fw%253D223%2526h%253D270&w=223&h=270&ei=ZqQdUcyoE-mxyQHLu4GIDg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:6,s:0,i:103&iact=rc&dur=1814&sig=117144753248196789351&page=1&tbnh=174&tbnw=143&start=0&ndsp=22&tx=92&ty=74

    So NO, not a “racial” nor “racist” term, but one that invokes baby-talk…

    *sheesh*

    scott e: i’m reminding you that “Birfer” is a colloquial affectation, thus is as racist.

    scott e: no, i mean “birfer” mocks black pronounciation. it’s in the neighborhood of “bafroom”, “birf certificate” or “axe” for ask…. it’s not very classy to ridicule.

    i mean do whatever you want, but if i used it in that manor, it would be flagged as racist.

    doc and fogbow use it too, lots of people do, i don’t think they know though. i’ve explained all this here before.

  87. avatar
    G February 14, 2013 at 10:10 pm #

    Scott is just limp keyboard whiner, not a doer….like the majority of the Birtheristani. Taking action outside of the “virtual world” takes actual effort and some courage….where most of these folks are all talk and nothing more.

    Heck, Scott couldn’t even muster the ability to go through with keeping a commitment to call in on RC’s Reality Check online radio program to debate birtherism…

    …So yeah, I’d say actually getting out of his house and driving somewhere for the “Birther cause” is several steps beyond…

    Rickey: D.C. is only an 8-9 hour drive from Vermont, but apparently Scott had more important things to do than actually support Orly’s latest fail.

  88. avatar
    justlw February 14, 2013 at 10:52 pm #

    “‘A scratch‘? Your arm’s off!”

    “No it isn’t.”

  89. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 15, 2013 at 12:14 am #

    I most certainly do NOT use the term “birfer.”

    BTW, I deleted 8 of your comments that were just long quotations of what other commenters said with a vacuous one line comment of yours attached.

    scott e: doc and fogbow use it too, lots of people do, i don’t think they know though. i’ve explained all this here before.

  90. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 12:17 am #

    scott e: i have black children in my immediate family, i love them dearly.

    Mazel tov.

  91. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 12:22 am #

    scott e: orly has a pr problem not a truth problem

    She has both, plus a need for lithium.

    scott e: remember the sixties ??

    As a matter of fact, I do. The girlfriends were like a buffet. Eat your heart out.

  92. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 15, 2013 at 12:28 am #

    What I see in many hobbyist endeavors is a striving for professionalism. The example comes to mind of wood carvers whose productions to my mind approach fine art.

    In my blogging (however one views its success) I try to act professional in certain ways:

    For example, I chose a commercial WordPress theme rather than any of the free ones because I thought it looked more professional, and I imitate some things that I’ve gotten from professional web sites. I add pictures to articles to make the blog appear more like a magazine or a professional news site.

    I have adopted certain ethical principles that I would associate as “professional” including the extra effort to include sources in articles and an attempt to represent the views of others fairly and in context.

    Playing at being professional is part of the fun of running this blog. So if scott thinks the blog looks in any way professional, then I take that as a measure of success, but since scott isn’t a professional, I also take it with a grain of salt.

    G: Considering that just about all anti-birtherism is nothing but pure “hobby” without profit, there really isn’t any “professionalism” to it…as it isn’t at all a “profession”. Even this site is nothing more than a retired hobbyists endeavor by Doc C. A well done one, yes…but a hobby nonetheless.

  93. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 12:31 am #

    scott e: it’s the dead of winter, protest rallies are summer events .

    There’s always time for Ovaltine™.

  94. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 12:37 am #

    scott e: my dad was a math guy. me, not so good.

    Here’s someone who can tutor you:

    http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/02/26/27901/peabody-450.jpg

  95. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 12:41 am #

    scott e: so you can’t block the wind, and you can’t step into the same river twice.

    You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
    You don’t spit into the wind
    You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
    And you don’t mess around with Jim

  96. avatar
    G February 15, 2013 at 1:03 am #

    Thank you for chiming in on this. Your perspective on the matter is well explained and makes a lot of sense.

    I like the phrasing of “striving for professionalism” for serious hobbyists, as you described it. Everything you described is certainly how I see your efforts…and I certainly both admire and appreciate the time, ethics and “striving for professionalism” that you provide to us with this site!

    However, as we both seem to be concluding, it is unlikely that Scott’s use of the term “professional” towards anti-birthers was within the same context as how you apply such professional-style qualities towards this hobby…

    He seems to be insinuating and trying to perpetuate the inane Birther/RWNJ bogeyman myth of “paid leftist bloggers”, which is absolute nonsense.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    What I see in many hobbyist endeavors is a striving for professionalism. The example comes to mind of wood carvers whose productions to my mind approach fine art.

    In my blogging (however one views its success) I try to act professional in certain ways:

    For example, I chose a commercial WordPress theme rather than any of the free ones because I thought it looked more professional, and I imitate some things that I’ve gotten from professional web sites. I add pictures to articles to make the blog appear more like a magazine or a professional news site.

    I have adopted certain ethical principles that I would associate as “professional” including the extra effort to include sources in articles and an attempt to represent the views of others fairly and in context.

    Playing at being professional is part of the fun of running this blog. So if scott thinks the blog looks in any way professional, then I take that as a measure of success, but since scott isn’t a professional, I also take it with a grain of salt.

  97. avatar
    misha marinsky February 15, 2013 at 3:27 am #

    justlw: “‘A scratch‘? Your arm’s off!”

    “No it isn’t.”

    “I just cut off your arm.”
    “Tis but a flesh wound.”

  98. avatar
    Lupin February 15, 2013 at 3:33 am #

    My elderly mother is sadly afflicted with alzheimer. She too will persist in carrying on with entirely false notions, which have been demonstrated to her to be false, no matter what.

    e.g.: right now she believes there is an armoire filled with some of her clothes on the floor above hers; no matter how many times I take her to that floor — which is being renovated — to show her there is no armoire there, she will still revert to that belief an hour later.

    I wonder in all honestly if Orly is not suffering from mild case of dementia.

  99. avatar
    The Magic M February 15, 2013 at 3:59 am #

    scott e: you put lol in quotes… i like that. how can you have -negative people ? (mathematically)

    1. Writing *lol* isn’t “putting lol in quotes”, it’s underlining it’s a written representation of a real-world act, similar to *facepalm* or *slap*.

    2. I wrote “~50″ (“approximately 50″), not “-50″ (“minus 50″).

  100. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy February 15, 2013 at 8:50 am #

    Yes, I think we are in agreement. My point is that quality is not the same as paid for.

    Overall, I think scott is just trying to stir up an argument rather than to actually assert that any particular web site is paid for by a political faction. He’s mostly a troll.

    G: However, as we both seem to be concluding, it is unlikely that Scott’s use of the term “professional” towards anti-birthers was within the same context as how you apply such professional-style qualities towards this hobby…

    He seems to be insinuating and trying to perpetuate the inane Birther/RWNJ bogeyman myth of “paid leftist bloggers”, which is absolute nonsense.

  101. avatar
    scott e February 15, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    G:
    Scott is just limp keyboard whiner, not a doer….like the majority of the Birtheristani.Taking action outside of the “virtual world” takes actual effort and some courage….where most of these folks are all talk and nothing more.

    Heck, Scott couldn’t even muster the ability to go through with keeping a commitment to call in on RC’s Reality Check online radio program to debate birtherism…

    …So yeah, I’d say actually getting out of his house and driving somewhere for the “Birther cause” is several steps beyond…

    that’s true right now, family comes first.

  102. avatar
    scott e February 15, 2013 at 9:10 am #

    The Magic M: 1. Writing *lol* isn’t “putting lol in quotes”, it’s underlining it’s a written representation of a real-world act, similar to *facepalm* or *slap*.

    2. I wrote “~50″ (“approximately 50″), not “-50″ (“minus 50″).

    i did not know that, see i learn something new every day.

  103. avatar
    scott e February 15, 2013 at 9:15 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I most certainly do NOT use the term “birfer.”

    BTW, I deleted 8 of your comments that were just long quotations of what other commenters said with a vacuous one line comment of yours attached.

    it’s probably best. people know where to find me. i know space and bandwidth are limited. i try to respond to everyone.

  104. avatar
    DaveH February 15, 2013 at 10:13 am #

    When my dad was in his mid 80’s, it became clear he was suffering from dementia. He became obsessed with Kennedy’s assasination (this was in the late 90’s) and constantly typed the same narrative about the “grassy knoll” conspiracy on an old typerwriter (there were stacks of paper that repeated the same story over and over again that I had to throw out after I put him in a nursing home). He also became paranoid and believed certain people were out to assasinate him. After a stay in the hospital when he overdosed on some blood pressure medications, he was convinced that the nurses had tried to poison him.

    Eventually, he was diagnosed with Altzheimer’s Disease and by that time he wasn’t able to remember my name most times. He passed away in 2005.

    Orly very much reminds me of my dad with her obsession and how she has everything memorized regarding her “evidence” on President Obama. It wouldn’t surprise me if she one day ends up in a nursing home unable to remember her kids’ names.

    Lupin:
    My elderly mother is sadly afflicted with alzheimer. She too will persist in carrying on with entirely false notions, which have been demonstrated to her to be false, no matter what.

    e.g.: right now she believes there is an armoire filled with some of her clothes on the floor above hers; no matter how many times I take her to that floor — which is being renovated — to show her there is no armoire there, she will still revert to that belief an hour later.

    I wonder in all honestly if Orly is not suffering from mild case of dementia.

  105. avatar
    Thomas Brown February 15, 2013 at 10:41 am #

    The Magic M: 1. Writing *lol* isn’t “putting lol in quotes”, it’s underlining it’s a written representation of a real-world act, similar to *facepalm* or *slap*.

    2. I wrote “~50″ (“approximately 50″), not “-50″ (“minus 50″).

    Scott’s not real bright, bless his heart.

  106. avatar
    Lupin February 15, 2013 at 11:53 am #

    DaveH: Orly very much reminds me of my dad with her obsession and how she has everything memorized regarding her “evidence” on President Obama. It wouldn’t surprise me if she one day ends up in a nursing home unable to remember her kids’ names.

    I’m not a professional doctor but to this untrained eye (with multiple relatives experience however) lately she does seem to exhibit early signs of dementia.

    Can I be the first to claim that the secret Obama conspiracy obviously injected her with the essence of black lotus supposed to drive men mad.

  107. avatar
    Rickey February 15, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    scott e: that’s true right now, family comes first.

    Your family couldn’t manage without you for two days?

  108. avatar
    scott e February 15, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Rickey: Your family couldn’t manage without you for two days?

    not right now.

  109. avatar
    G February 15, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

    Good. I’m glad you haven’t lost sight of the importance of family. You should try to remind yourself whenever possible about the importance of healthy bonds with other people and hang onto those positive things instead of falling prey to your own inner demons of bitterness and disappointment, which only lead you to lessen yourself by trying to spread misery and sow discord…

    One path is healthy and the other is not. Try to reflect upon that more, please.

    scott e: that’s true right now, family comes first.

  110. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion February 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    scott e:
    orly has a pr problem not a truth problem, remember the sixties ??

    Dr. Orly Taitz’s biggest PR problem is Dr. Orly Taitz.

    The fact she’s trying to sell a mass of bovine byproducts as chocolate chip cookies doesn’t help either.

  111. avatar
    scott e February 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    G:
    Good.I’m glad you haven’t lost sight of the importance of family.You should try to remind yourself whenever possible about the importance of healthy bonds with other people and hang onto those positive things instead of falling prey to your own inner demons of bitterness and disappointment, which only lead you to lessen yourself by trying to spread misery and sow discord…

    One path is healthy and the other is not.Try to reflect upon that more, please.

    thanks, i might do that.

  112. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion February 15, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

    Lupin:
    I wonder in all honestly if Orly is not suffering from mild case of dementia.

    I will point out that two of the signs of nitrous oxide abuse are paranoia and delusion.

  113. avatar
    donna February 15, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    for those “patriots” who were unable to travel to DC to protest, there are rallies tomorrow at state capitols (National Protests Against Obama)

    “Instructions for rallies across the nation tomorrow 11am-1pm every capitol. Bring signs: “Foreign criminal with forged and stolen IDs is not my President” Instruction re the protest below”

    “Travel safely and arrive as close to 11am as possible, then coalesce with other patriots like water molecules forming a rain drop at these addresses on Saturday, Feb 16, 2013.”

    oh and donate: We have spent a good deal of funds on your behalf to make this possible. We need more funds to advertise to bring out as many people as possible tomorrow. If you are one of the 98% of people on our lists or Facebook pages that has NOT donated a cent to this effort yet, please make a small donation of whatever you can afford via this link right away…

  114. avatar
    US Citizen February 15, 2013 at 8:09 pm #

    “then coalesce with other patriots like water molecules forming a rain drop”

    … and then disappear again in an ocean of reasonable and intelligent people.