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The enemy of my enemy

My check from the CIA is late

Looking for something new at the Orly Taitz site, I found a link to an article at Before It’s News attributed to the “King of Shambhala,” a name I’ve seen a few times at BIN. Anyway, this article is a doozey!

It basically discusses my recent article about Linda Joy Adams, and her comments here. Let me give you a sense of this joy ride (no pun intended) on the birther conspiracist rollercoaster of an article titled: “Obama Cousin Joins Obots Linda Joy Adams Joins Forces With Doc Conspiracy To FInd Obama Dad.”

it’s not easy for Doc Conspiracy to agree to what she says, because the people who write to his forum, are a throng of hounds, baying for blood. He’s closely watched and forced to adopt the most militant, liberal, Fascist line. …

But, among the people who could agree with her and give her story a listen, Doc Conspiracy might be the most plausible one. I hadn’t thought about it but Linda may be onto something there.

Doc Conspiracy is a twisted, warped person who entirely devotes himself to proving the birthers wrong. It’s because he’s convinced Obama can beat the rap by just shoving off accusations by ridiculing them. HIs work is to coat his work under the outer apppaerance of logic and decency. In Hitler Germany, for example, he’d be the MInistry of Information, which in fact, is the cover for the SS operations.

Now, why would Doc Conspiracy, (who’s a CIA paid shill1), listen to Linda and do the reasearch and find the father in Kansas?

Because the Doc has seen the writing on the wall and knows that it’s curtains for Obama. The Supreme Court Judge Moore of Alabama is taking a birther case very soon and the days left for Obama are few and far between. So the Doc’s options are very few now. He’s like in WWII, when the Allies had already landed, and when the SS (Doc is like the Nazi SS) in France had a few weeks left to lead last-ditch battles.

Pure comedy gold.


1He thinks all the Obots are paid CIA shills,  commenting on the article:

All the obots here are CIA pais shills.

How could they heckle my articles for four years non stop 24 7?

Who pays them and why do they offer their protection to their god the Messiah aka the Satan Antichrist-Obama free of charge?

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114 Responses to The enemy of my enemy

  1. avatar
    The Magic M May 6, 2013 at 11:12 am #

    Godwin’s Law plus a good dose of “any day now” plus a rehash of “Obots are in panic”… must be 2009 all over again. ;)

    > The Supreme Court Judge Moore of Alabama is taking a birther case very soon

    I’m really looking forward to this one. It will send birthers rock bottom again.

    Possible outcomes (only the likely ones):

    1. Roy Moore isn’t even on the three-judge panel that will hear the appeal.

    2. Roy Moore is on the panel but dismisses the case.

    3. Roy Moore is on the panel and agrees with plaintiffs, but the case is dismissed 2-1 anyway. (In which case we might see a “petition for en banc hearing which will then guarantee a 8-1 dismissal.)

  2. avatar
    M Heuss May 6, 2013 at 11:16 am #

    Makes one wonder why birthers need to have all debunkers paid by some force, be it George Soros, the CIA, the Catholic Church, Jews or the Illuminati.

    To me, the fact that the Doc is a “twisted, warped person” would seem to be sufficient, why grant him a paycheck to boot? Does the paycheck make him more evil? More twisted? More of a Goliath versus the birther David?

    My second thought: Must every piece of writing hype the epic battle our arm chair pro se birther warriors have spent 5 years bitterly fighting?

    I imagine every birther has already picked out who’ll play them in the movies they imagine are to be made about this struggle. I wonder how many birthers dream of Brad Pitt, looking grim and determined, staring right at the usurper and saying “I knew justice would prevail! After your flogging and hanging, we will send you back to Kenya where you belong!”

  3. avatar
    Lupin May 6, 2013 at 11:31 am #

    Can I be a DGSE paid shill instead?

    Seriously it’s funny this notion that anyone here who thinks birthers are ignorant racist buffoons are necessarily pro-Obama liberals. Some of us are furriners — which I assume is even worse.

  4. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 6, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    Right. All us twisted, warped persons have to stick together.

    M Heuss: To me, the fact that the Doc is a “twisted, warped person” would seem to be sufficient, why grant him a paycheck to boot? Does the paycheck make him more evil? More twisted? More of a Goliath versus the birther David?

  5. avatar
    donna May 6, 2013 at 11:57 am #

    i read a recent article by “devvy” who assaults everyone including ” tens of millions of mindless members of the Democratic/Communist Party USA “, RINOS (i guess) on the right like those on fox “with paychecks of one million dollars a month plus” and many from the far right like bachmann, issa, “juan” mccain, etc

    (at least she properly wrote “democratic” party)

    she notes the “[h]ighly intelligent, sincere constitutional attorneys who have represented plaintiffs in eligibility cases [who] are equally slashed and burned by the aforementioned who have sold their soul for buckets of cash”, klayman, arpaio & co, and “one courageous and brave man”, judge moore

    it appears that those who don’t fall in line with the bithers are paid, have “white guilt” and brag about voting for “America’s first black president”, Barry Soetoro who is “bi-racial; Caucasian and Negro”

    she asks will the AL supreme court “have the courage to rule for the U.S. Constitution or will some members cave to racial blackmail because you can bet the race card will front and center”

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd586.htm

  6. avatar
    Graham Shevlin May 6, 2013 at 12:10 pm #

    Where’s my check, dammit?

  7. avatar
    sfjeff May 6, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    Graham Shevlin: Where’s my check, dammit?

    My CIA handler sent me yours- he said- off the record mind you- that you just haven’t been supporting the New World Order quite ardently enough, so at the orders of the Templars, I have been promoted to Senior Obot in charge of Counter-Birtherism posts on Websites A-D, and will receive your checks from now on.

  8. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG May 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm #

    I don’t get a check. They pay me in Gov’ment Cheese, and Steve Harvey tickets.

  9. avatar
    JPotter May 6, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    I have been crazing more blood than usual, recently. Those guys really have us pegged.

    (someone takes Adams seriously????)

    ((of course, they do; if desperate nuts will go for Taitz, etc., even more desperate nuts will go for Adams!))

  10. avatar
    richCares May 6, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    To add to the story, here is a list of schools and other places named after Obama, and in the not to distant future, a navy ship. This drives birthers insane
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Barack_Obama

  11. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 12:56 pm #

    Graham Shevlin: Where’s my check, dammit?

    Soros has me on direct deposit. Sorry, pal.

    Of course, I’m a member in good standing of the International Jewish Conspiracy™. Just e-mail Soros, and tell him I sent you.

  12. avatar
    donna May 6, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    i don’t receive a check – soros lives in my hood and just pays my mortgage and real estate taxes directly

  13. avatar
    Majority Will May 6, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    I get paid in S&H Green Stamps. I’m saving up for a toaster oven.

  14. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm #

    “King of Shambhala” is Geir Smith, and mostly likely Linda Joy Adams.

  15. avatar
    Sam the Centipede May 6, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Liberal fascism, now there’s a coherent ideology! I guess egalitarian racists might want to join that party, together with right-wing communists, baptist atheists and carnivorous vegans.

    It must sting to be accused of … I can barely type it, it’s so disgusting … “logic and decency”. How dare you?! That is a vile tactic, completely unfair to the birther community, who have no way of responding in kind. It’s unpatriotic to be reasonable and polite, you *******!

    As the writer warns, Mr. Obama’s stay as president will not last long … only another three and a bit years. Then you’ll see!! He’ll be gone!!

  16. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/05/vermont-supreme-court-hearing-obama-eligibility.html

    feels like home… the once conservative Vermont, my beloved home, is listening to reason. natural born,, interesting.

  17. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 1:35 pm #

    scott e: the once conservative Vermont, my beloved home, is listening to reason. natural born

    The judges humored Brooksie. That’s all. All ORYR did was repeat Brooksie’s claims.

    Get a ruling.

  18. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    I think he’s right on.. with this one. I don’t know if geir is linda or not, I also use before it’s news, I think the citizen journalism will save this country. it’s the platform of the new political party i’m starting… who knew ?? can’t repeal the 22nd amendment.. big mistake.. this is a fascinating listen from Vermont… doc you should do a story on it.

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    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:41 pm #

    misha marinsky: The judges humored Brooksie. That’s all. All ORYR did was repeat Brooksie’s claims.

    Get a ruling.

    judges are not permitted to humor, belittle or show a political bent,,, sometimes the do though… michael jablonski was on the elections advisory board and “won” a case without bothering to show up… that was the case that permitted discovery ?

  20. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

    misha marinsky: Soros has me on direct deposit. Sorry, pal.

    Of course, I’m a member in good standing of the International Jewish Conspiracy™. Just e-mail Soros, and tell him I sent you.

    sounds like bill ayers with the royalties…

  21. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

    Most of it was all about mootness, etc… While it would be tempting to hope that the VT court would rule on the topic in a totally predictable fashion, they will more likely just claim lack of jurisdiction and/or mootness.

    scott e:
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/05/vermont-supreme-court-hearing-obama-eligibility.html

    feels like home… the once conservative Vermont, my beloved home, is listening to reason. natural born,, interesting.

  22. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:44 pm #

    scott e: can’t repeal the 22nd amendment.. big mistake.. this is a fascinating listen from Vermont… doc you should do a story on it.

    I believe he did…

  23. avatar
    MN-Skeptic May 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm #

    nbc: I believe he did…

    Not only did Doc do a story on it – http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/04/paige-tries-to-lay-down-the-law-to-the-vermont-supreme-court/ – but scott e. commented on it.

  24. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    Sam the Centipede: Liberal fascism, now there’s a coherent ideology!

    There was a poster here who went by ‘Rambo Ike,’ and accused Obama of being a communist and a fascist. He went on to say Adolf Schicklgruber was a socialist, and socialism and fascism were both left wing systems.

    These people are wacko.

  25. avatar
    JPotter May 6, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    scott e: it’s the platform of the new political party i’m starting…

    C’mon, please share details, don’t bogart’em.

  26. avatar
    JD Reed May 6, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    scott e: judges are not permitted to humor, belittle or show a political bent,,, sometimes the do though… michael jablonski was on the elections advisory board and “won” a case without bothering to show up… that was the case that permitted discovery ?

    Scott, where is it written that judges are not permitted “to humor, belittle or show a political bent”?
    I don’t understand your question “that was the case that permitted discovery?”
    No birther yet has shown any legal grounds for obtaining discovery. Now what judges are not supposed to allow are fishing expeditions.

  27. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Right. All us twisted, warped persons have to stick together.

    all of “we”, twisted, warped persons have to stick together… i’m not, you do.

  28. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    Majority Will: I’m saving up for a toaster oven.

    I saw it first.

  29. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    scott e: judges are not permitted to humor, belittle or show a political bent,,, sometimes the do though… michael jablonski was on the elections advisory board and “won” a case without bothering to show up… that was the case that permitted discovery ?

    Yes, just shows you how hard it is to argue against the prevailing jurisprudence. As to judges not permitted to show humor or even belittle, well, if the case requires that the judge educates a lawyer as to her foolishness.

    As to the case you are referring to, the Judge rejected to quash the subpoena… But of course, we all know how that ended for Orly… We won We won …. Oops…

    And although he allowed ‘witnesses’ and ‘experts’ he ruled that their testimony would be stricken for obvious reason… And the plaintiffs insisted on a ruling rather than an entry of default…

    The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support Plaintiffs’ allegations.

    Then, for the purpose of his analysis, he assumes that President Obama is born in Hawaii and shows how under US precedent and Constitution this makes him a natural born.

    A beautiful ‘success’ even though there was noone on the defendant’s side to argue and even though Orly got to present her case and ‘witnesses/experts’ she failed in so many ways…

  30. avatar
    Dave May 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm #

    “HIs work is to coat his work…”

    Well, that clarifies why the task seems endless.

  31. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm #

    MN-Skeptic: Not only did Doc do a story on it – http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/04/paige-tries-to-lay-down-the-law-to-the-vermont-supreme-court/ – but scott e. commented on it.

    Such short term memory. No wonder he keeps recycling his arguments…

  32. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 1:54 pm #

    JD Reed: Scott, where is it written that judges are not permitted “to humor, belittle or show a political bent”?
    I don’t understand your question “that was the case that permitted discovery?”
    No birther yet has shown any legal grounds for obtaining discovery. Now what judges are not supposed to allow are fishing expeditions.

    I don’t know, code of ethics ? it happens, but it seems unprofessional to me.

    I thought there was just one case that allowed discovery, I may very well be wrong though, it’s not really my thing. I can’t be everywhere you know. wow the antis are really pouring out over this Benghazi thing..

    doc the glitch is fixed, but what happened to the edit function ??

  33. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    JD Reed: I don’t understand your question “that was the case that permitted discovery?”

    Scott.e probably meant: witness and expert testimony… Legal terms can be somewhat confusing… But as expected, the so called ‘experts’ and written ‘testimony’ failed to rise to the standard of legal admissibility and relevance.

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    nbc May 6, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    scott e: I thought there was just one case that allowed discovery, I may very well be wrong though, it’s not really my thing. I can’t be everywhere you know. wow the antis are really pouring out over this Benghazi thing..

    Yes, another false ‘hope’ that this will bring down the presidency. Oh the follies….

  35. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    “are a throng of hounds, baying for blood”

    Mark Twain – If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. That is the difference between a man and a dog.

    “liberal, Fascist line”

    I’m back. I just fell off my chair.

    “Doc Conspiracy is a twisted, warped person”

    No, that’s me. As Lenin once said, From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Don’t like it? Sorry, 1st Amendment.

    “shoving off accusations by ridiculing them”

    Denialists deserve nothing more than ridicule. As George Will said, Trump is a bloviating ignoramus.

    “Doc is like the Nazi SS”

    I grew up surrounded by Survivors. The King of Shambhala/Geir Smith and the rest are vile.

  36. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 2:11 pm #

    scott e: sounds like bill ayers with the royalties…

    Yes, exactly.

  37. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

    nbc: Yes, another false ‘hope’ that this will bring down the presidency. Oh the follies….

    look I don’t want 0bamas to be corrupt either, but I think they are.

    i’m from Illinois, I had high hopes at first, we need to separate the bias from the truth… why do you guys care, if he’s pure, you have nothing to worry about, we can all just stay at home.. right ?

  38. avatar
    Paul May 6, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    Geir is apparently seriously mentally ill. I mean, they’re all bat-sh#t crazy, but he’s actually mentally ill

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    nbc May 6, 2013 at 2:20 pm #

    scott e: i’m from Illinois, I had high hopes at first, we need to separate the bias from the truth… why do you guys care, if he’s pure, you have nothing to worry about, we can all just stay at home.. right ?

    I do care, which is why from early 2007 I have been debunking all this nonsense about his birth etc.

    Look, there are some people out there who hate Obama and let their hatred lead to untenable conclusions. Rather than jump to conclusions, I let the evidence guide me, not my fears or ignorance.

    If Obama or someone in his administration messed up in Benghazi then we will find out. Its relevance is lost on me but I am sure that someone will scream ‘impeachment’… I look instead at Obama’s record…

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    donna May 6, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    nbc: Scott.e probably meant: witness and expert testimony… Legal terms can be somewhat confusing… But as expected, the so called ‘experts’ and written ‘testimony’ failed to rise to the standard of legal admissibility and relevance.

    their “experts” fail to be “forensic” experts

    “Rather than addressing the issue of the validity of any particular branch of forensic science, the Court has limited itself to establishing ground rules for forensic testimony. Currently, it does so through the Federal Rules of Evidence, a set of broad principles used in federal trials. ….. The Federal Rules govern a number of issues pertaining to the relevance of evidence, but the key rule for forensic scientists is Rule 702, ‘Testimony by Experts'” and the daubert test

    http://www.enotes.com/u-s-supreme-court-rulings-forensic-evidence-reference/u-s-supreme-court-rulings-forensic-evidence

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    sfjeff May 6, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

    nbc: If Obama or someone in his administration messed up in Benghazi then we will find out. Its relevance is lost on me but I am sure that someone will scream ‘impeachment’… I look instead at Obama’s record…

    Scott’s current drive is to link Benghazi to Birtherism and essentially say if there is anything to suspect about Benghazi that means that Birthers are right. I have to say, I can’t quite follow the logic, but perhaps it is just folly to attempt to divine logic in any of Scott’s posts?

    If the President- or anyone in his administration- did something illegal regarding Benghazi then I have no issue with it coming out- and will support any legal recourse.

    However, if it is just going to be more congressional hearings for Republicans to try to make it a political anti-Obama circus, I will largely ignore it.

    Bad things happen on President’s watches- Reagan had the Lebanon barracks attack, Bush had 9/11- we should always try to learn from these tragedies. But in todays environment it appears that villifying Obama is more important to some Republicans than learning from our mistakes.

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    nbc May 6, 2013 at 2:41 pm #

    sfjeff: Scott’s current drive is to link Benghazi to Birtherism and essentially say if there is anything to suspect about Benghazi that means that Birthers are right.

    Noone would be so foolish now would they?

  43. avatar
    Linda Joy Adams May 6, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    I’m not a birther and am not paid to write anything, nor do I ask for money for any of this.What I am asking for is assistance in truth and justice. Geir Smith at Before Its News read some of my postings and actually read them and of all blogger and saw the truth. He is more concerned with who the daddy is? The whole birther movement was based on a misunderstanding of one sentence by President Obama, He admitted in his book, Dreams of the father which i have never read. Nut Mr. Lamb on c pan in a rebroadcast of a review my David Maraniss( he admitted on Hardball last 8/12 after I’d gone ‘public’ he had the Topeka KS info) of a couple of years ago seen by me in recent months and the clip was played where Pres Obama said: he took what he’d been told and wove a story. Pres Obama was never told the truth if one is to believe his words. He was forced to have a bio for political purposes, and because voters wanted to know whom they were voting for. Why he was never told the truth when he became an adult is why I wrote my Daily Recaps since 7./26/12 as its a convoluted 100 year old saga of intrigue and secrecy in our family. I am only a third cousin and have had little contact over the years since 1/71 when i should have not let his grandmother ‘Tut” stop me from mentioning Topeka Ks to him., I was so shocked that she would say all the racial epitaphs in a tirade with her own grandson of color standing in in front of her, that I was shocked into silence and should not have been.My husband couldn’t fathom such a person being part of my family in any way, as none in either of our families had or would ever speak of others in such a horrific way. She ended up with Darlene Hackett my cousins wife who had cared for Pres Obama as a baby s Ann could finish high school in tears as she was angry Darlene had invited us for the day. And our toddler son, was awakended form his nap and wondered who was saying all the bad words and he spoke to Barry as he was introduced as Barry Soetoro by his grandmother as he was ‘getting confused’ about things in Indonesia.
    I have been thoroughly disgusted with the birthers as they don’t care for the truth having jumped on some old quotes by POTUS when he thought he was born in Kenya and no one bothered to tell him he wasn’t.No one has ‘seemed ‘to care enough for him , personally to be truthful. As you can see, I act from INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY and I have no evidence he has ever known the truth to this very day. The ones who did care were kept away. why?
    His own mother was-in trouble with no place to live in Topeka KS at age 14 after parting ways with Fred Phelps at Westboro Baptist and still have no idea how she got sent there by her mother, her dad usually away on ‘ hush hush military business.” and he had to call from Africa to arrange the marriage to Obama Sr so his grandchild could have a name. she had no idea she had relatives in Topeka who would have helped out. and did when finally located as authorities contacted the real Stanley Dunham in Liberal ks who was able to direct them to the grandparents in Holyoke Colorado, MIllard Filmore and Helen ( Hardy ) Pope, my Dad’s sister who contacted my parents to get the gdnshp papers signed over. from Fred Phelps who had refused to sign for her to get into Topeka HS. And help her through the pregnancy, etc.
    A lot of laws to help children have been passed over the years just because of such situations as this. I think she very well may have ended up in in New York as Donna has said; trying to find her dad as that was one of the APO addresses for over seas military at the time, and would like to confirm this. I want answers as I have lived most of the last 68 years with all kinds of secretive things that have never had answers for me and have affected behaviors of persons whom I loved as family. Now the world has gotten embroiled in our family intrigues.
    When the trashing of the president’s mother restarted in 2012, I couldn’t stay silent any more.(I was not on the Internet before the end of 2008 so had no idea all this was going on. No matter what her life style may or may not have been before or after; I knew her as a courageous, responsible and very smart teenager who had to be on her own, get a job and support herself at a very young age and having a boyfriend as a teenager is not unusual, but to have an interracial relationship in a place and era when those things were hated by some in society to the point of committing murder is and never has been right. Murder is illegal and when its done due to race, Its now considered a hate crime and under the jurisdiction of the federal govt under the civil rights laws., which did not exist in those days.
    Did anyone not realize that Pres Obama might have won by a landslide in 2012 if the truth had come out?, maybe by even more in 2008. In 2012, The election was the Republicans to lose and they put forward the most personally unlikeable candidate,even if some say he was a nice guy..
    And we need to end the era when too many of those in the highest two offices in this land are more truthful of their ancestry and some have not done it and DID KNOW THE TRUTH in the last few decades..
    In all of this one may not understand there is a cultural issue here. The HONOR of a man giving a child his name is as old as Joseph , husband of Mary giving his name to Jesus as Christians believe is our Savior and had no earthly father. Please don’t infer anything from that example, but its one known well to the world from that culture In that part of the world, which makes Pres Obama a son of Kenya. its a honor thing to accept him by the marriage, even if our culture just calls it a matter of convenience for both. And Obama Sr has been castigated all over, too. When there was no understanding , as far as I knew, to be a father in practice..He did an honor thing for his Grandfather, my first cousin, Daniel Wayne Pope who lived his life since age 14 as Stanley Dunham to go to WWII as a 14 year old and did.
    Unlike Ann,.my age, I’d not even started dating yet. and my parents tried to shield me from all that was going on which only left me getting bits and pieces of the whole. What they had not been aware of is i was caught in the middle of this at school and even knowing her, but as Dunham. In the middle of all this, she finds out what her Dad’s real last name was.
    Her mother wouldn’t allow a close relationship with her grandparents and I never knew the Popes to be anything but hard working, and good people. This is all an American tragedy, that ended with the son being the President of the USA. Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes and this is one of them.
    Now for justice for three dead in the Kansas River and there were other rumored dead that disappeared n those waters whose bodies never did wash up on a sand bar as these three did. The intent was for POTUS and Ann unborn were to have died also.
    according what my Mother said Ann had said: This president did not have a father who abandoned him, but one who gave up his life to save his unborn child and his mother. That;s an act of love and not of negligence at all.
    No matter what might have been said or discussed before that point in time, when the moment came, preservation of life was the most important act of love to occur.And the authorities at that time didn’t want to know or even search for the bodies. a complete disregard for” life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!”
    As for allegations of criminal wrongdoing by POTUS on misuse of SSN’S; there are 50 secretary of states who should have resolved this back in 2008 and did not do so if all this is truth. And why didn’t they ask for other birth evidence knowing there were general problems with many Hawaii records around the time of his birth? But Attorney General Eric Holder now needs to take Orly Taitz’s criminal complaint filed in 2/13 at the SSA office in CT and either clear him or refer to Congress for them to constitutionally decide what should be done:.Censorship or impeachment if his current investigation proves some current wrong doing. What he did years ago, ifs not chargeable as a crime even if true..
    Congress then needs THIS whole truth to make a decision and that’s the whole background as to how this occurred as one has difficulty getting an SSN if one doesn’t know where their real birth certificate is. SSA, in those years, had extensive lists and info on areas of the country where vital records were suspect and other secondary documentation was asked for and if one left the USA at an early age, that other evidence might not have been available. One can’t get hospital records of birth if they don’t know where it took place. and there is even some indicating in some old letters to my mother, from his great grandmother Pope there might have been a grandparent adoption and the records could be under Pope; so it would have been a nearly impossible task.. Even Lt Zullo told me it would be for them at Cold Case Posse.,. So I turned to face book friends to help out.. Anyone is welcome to help with whatever you know and can locate and you can do it anonymously on there.
    The truth seems to be POTUS was told little of what he needed to know to get many of his legal papers in order. Or that whole ssn scenario might be a creation of some birthers, too..Its why there needs to be closure of either clearing him of any recent wrong doing or Congress must decide.Then the focus can be on the serious problems this nation has.. Linda Joy Adams on a journey for truth and justice wherever it leads.

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    scott e May 6, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    nbc: I do care, which is why from early 2007 I have been debunking all this nonsense about his birth etc.

    Look, there are some people out there who hate Obama and let their hatred lead to untenable conclusions. Rather than jump to conclusions, I let the evidence guide me, not my fears or ignorance.

    If Obama or someone in his administration messed up in Benghazi then we will find out. Its relevance is lost on me but I am sure that someone will scream ‘impeachment’… I look instead at Obama’s record…

    I have always said the 0bots have overacted. if they had just kept a low profile, then maybe the issue would have died. I think it almost did awhile ago, I remember being ridiculed as “the last birther standing at PF.

    I’ve had people as recently as this week say there is/was no controversy… that is absurd. part of the reason it’s such a hot topic, is because of the attacks by the bots, which I do find somewhat delightfully ironic.

    in my humble opinion, nothing has been debunked, and it’s a hard cold fact that just a few people have seen the original birth certificate, if there is one. I believe 0bama even mentions having a first copy, in his autobiography, which I still believe was written by terrorist bill ayers.

  45. avatar
    JPotter May 6, 2013 at 2:47 pm #

    scott e: nothing has been debunked,

    ^ ^ ^ Paragon of the Obtuse ^ ^ ^

    Let’s do the time warp, agaaaaaaain …. must we? must we, really?

    Nope, no we mustn’t.

  46. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

    scott e: I have always said the 0bots have overacted. if they had just kept a low profile, then maybe the issue would have died. I think it almost did awhile ago, I remember being ridiculed as “the last birther standing at PF.

    With so many foolish people on the birther side, this will never really go away. But the court cases will soon be gone, probably with an occasional foolish attempt to resurrect. If my actions to find the truth somehow encouraged some to continue their foolishness, then fine with me. Reason would never work with such people.

  47. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

    sfjeff: Scott’s current drive is to link Benghazi to Birtherism and essentially say if there is anything to suspect about Benghazi that means that Birthers are right. I have to say, I can’t quite follow the logic, but perhaps it is just folly to attempt to divine logic in any of Scott’s posts?

    If the President- or anyone in his administration- did something illegal regarding Benghazi then I have no issue with it coming out- and will support any legal recourse.

    However, if it is just going to be more congressional hearings for Republicans to try to make it a political anti-Obama circus, I will largely ignore it.

    Bad things happen on President’s watches- Reagan had the Lebanon barracks attack, Bush had 9/11- we should always try to learn from these tragedies. But in todays environment it appears that villifying Obama is more important to some Republicans than learning from our mistakes.

    jeff, you are the one that said there is no controversy. that’s ridiculous. and why is it so hard to imagine that the same administration involved in one conspiratorial coverup, couldn’t be involved in another. really ?rezko, ? guns for tequila ? rev wright ? bill and bernardine ? and now Benghazi ?? wake up old boy, this is what I meant by loyalty, which I think is ridiculous too, but that’s your problem not mine. I tried to tell you about Chicago years ago, i’ll say it again, you’ll see….

  48. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    scott e: in my humble opinion, nothing has been debunked, and it’s a hard cold fact that just a few people have seen the original birth certificate, if there is one. I believe 0bama even mentions having a first copy, in his autobiography, which I still believe was written by terrorist bill ayers.

    Well, see just what I said…. Even in light of all the facts, some will deny logic and reason… Good job scott e…

  49. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 2:52 pm #

    scott e: jeff, you are the one that said there is no controversy. that’s ridiculous. and why is it so hard to imagine that the same administration involved in one conspiratorial coverup, couldn’t be involved in another

    Yes, I understand your ‘logic’ which makes you reject logic, facts and reason. I fully understand.

    Poor scott… What a waste…

  50. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

    nbc: With so many foolish people on the birther side, this will never really go away. But the court cases will soon be gone, probably with an occasional foolish attempt to resurrect. If my actions to find the truth somehow encouraged some to continue their foolishness, then fine with me. Reason would never work with such people.

    good for you. you play your side of the chessboard and i’ll play mine.

    from “your move” by yes

    “Move me on to any black square
    Use me any time you want Just remember that the gold’s for us to capture all we want, anywhere Yeah, yeah, yeah

    Don’t surround yourself with yourself Move on back two squares Send an instant comment to me Initial it with loving care, don’t surround yourself.

    ‘Cause it’s time, it’s time in time With your time and its news is captured …
    For the queen to use……”

    God I wish I could write songs like this… brilliant I say… and with jon anderson’s choirboy voice ?? lightning in a bottle for me…

  51. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 3:02 pm #

    scott e: it’s a hard cold fact that just a few people have seen the original birth certificate, if there is one

    You can see it here:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

  52. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 3:03 pm #

    scott e: his autobiography, which I still believe was written by terrorist bill ayers.

    I wrote several chapters.

  53. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    scott e: good for you. you play your side of the chessboard and i’ll play mine.

    You have not even noticed that you are playing without your king on the board :-)

    This is not a chess game, the game has long since been decided… The clock ran out, your king has been taken… All we have is random moves by scott. You and the Black Knight…

    Not very impressive but I do like how you ignore logic, reason and facts in favor of your dislikes of our President.

    Your words speak loudly and clearly

  54. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

    scott e: it’s a hard cold fact that just a few people have seen the original birth certificate,

    Yes, few have seen it, but several of those who have seen it have attested to its accuracy. So those wondering ‘if there is one’ would have to be quite immune to facts, logic and reason.

  55. avatar
    US Citizen May 6, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    I wish they’d stop criticizing George Soros.
    He’s been very generous to me.
    He gave me $200K and I bought a Ferrari.
    One night I was driving it and kept on getting distracted by some low flying helicopter.
    It was all black with no lights on. Weird.
    Well anyway, next thing I know this huge car, an all-black Crown Victoria broadsides my Ferrari.

    But George Soros was right there immediately to help with the hospital bills.
    When I somehow contracted hepatitis in the hospital, he paid for the treatment.
    When I accidentally rolled my wheelchair into that open elevator shaft, he made it known that he paid for the rescue to team to get me out.
    He even got rid of that guy who kept trying to poke me with his umbrella.

    Finally, when I had come back home only to find vandals had gone through every drawer and closet in my home, George was right there offering to help with the clean up. He even gave me the phone number of a police detective that’s so elite, I’m not supposed to call him at the police dept for fear I might blow his identity.
    Soros is alright with me.
    He’s chipped in on everything from having my car’s brakes serviced to food preparation.
    I think I can trust him.

  56. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm #

    misha marinsky: You can see it here:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

    see what I mean…?? that quick move just cost you a bishop and a pawn my dear….
    care to try again ??

    where will you be spending your knights…?? lol

    hey edit is back… way to go doctor…

  57. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 3:38 pm #

    US Citizen:
    I wish they’d stop criticizing George Soros.
    He’s been very generous to me.
    He gave me $200K and I bought a Ferrari.
    One night I was driving it and kept on getting distracted by some low flying helicopter.
    It was all black with no lights on. Weird.
    Well anyway, next thing I know this huge car, an all-black Crown Victoria broadsides my Ferrari.

    But George Soros was right there immediately to help with the hospital bills.
    When I somehow contracted hepatitis in the hospital, he paid for the treatment.
    When I accidentally rolled my wheelchair into that open elevator shaft, he made it known that he paid for the rescue to team to get me out.
    He even got rid of that guy who kept trying to poke me with his umbrella.

    Finally, when I had come back home only to find vandals had gone through every drawer and closet in my home, George was right there offering to help with the clean up. He even gave me the phone number of a police detective that’s so elite, I’m not supposed to call him at the police dept for fear I might blow his identity.
    Soros is alright with me.
    He’s chipped in on everything from having my car’s brakes serviced to food preparation.
    I think I can trust him.

    buy a lacey painting… he did

  58. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

    nbc: You have not even noticed that you are playing without your king on the board

    This is not a chess game, the game has long since been decided… The clock ran out, your king has been taken… All we have is random moves by scott. You and the Black Knight…

    Not very impressive but I do like how you ignore logic, reason and facts in favor of your dislikes of our President.

    Your words speak loudly and clearly

    no good chris matthews… try again…

  59. avatar
    nbc May 6, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

    scott e: see what I mean…?? that quick move just cost you a bishop and a pawn my dear….
    care to try again ??

    Scott e still has not noticed that he ran out of time and that he is performing the black knight routine.

  60. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 6, 2013 at 3:51 pm #

    You’re not from around here, are you?

    scott e: all of “we”, twisted, warped persons have to stick together… i’m not, you do.

  61. avatar
    Monkey Boy May 6, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    I don’t get a check. They pay me in Gov’ment Cheese, and Steve Harvey tickets.

    Man, you are really in the doghouse. Having to accept surplus american cheese is a punishment. Just above commodity bologna. Just ask Shurf Joe.

  62. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater May 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm #

    nbc: Scott e still has not noticed that he ran out of time and that he is performing the black knight routine.

    The game was over a long time ago and he’s too busy saying “Where’s arnie” while looking for the burger barn

  63. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater May 6, 2013 at 5:48 pm #

    scott e: I have always said the 0bots have overacted. if they had just kept a low profile, then maybe the issue would have died. I think it almost did awhile ago, I remember being ridiculed as “the last birther standing at PF.I’ve had people as recently as this week say there is/was no controversy… that is absurd. part of the reason it’s such a hot topic, is because of the attacks by the bots, which I do find somewhat delightfully ironic.in my humble opinion, nothing has been debunked, and it’s a hard cold fact that just a few people have seen the original birth certificate, if there is one. I believe 0bama even mentions having a first copy, in his autobiography, which I still believe was written by terrorist bill ayers.

    Gee Scott you think very highly of yourself. When no one refutes you you still say oh it must be a contraversy because no one is refuting your nonsense. It’s a juvenile “heads I win, tails you lose” game you play. The “issue” has died. Only the dead enders like yourself still believe there’s some conspiracy. You mention how only a few people have seen the original birth certificate well fewer have seen any previous President’s original but that was okay by you.

    Why do you think the autobiography was written by Bill Ayers? What proof do you have of this?

  64. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater May 6, 2013 at 5:49 pm #

    scott e: jeff, you are the one that said there is no controversy. that’s ridiculous. and why is it so hard to imagine that the same administration involved in one conspiratorial coverup, couldn’t be involved in another. really ?rezko, ? guns for tequila ? rev wright ? bill and bernardine ? and now Benghazi ?? wake up old boy, this is what I meant by loyalty, which I think is ridiculous too, but that’s your problem not mine. I tried to tell you about Chicago years ago, i’ll say it again, you’ll see….

    You’re assuming there’s been a “conspiratorial coverup” with Benghazi but have not presented any proof of that accusation. All you’ve proven is that you get selectively outraged about things depending on who is president.

  65. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater May 6, 2013 at 5:51 pm #

    scott e: good for you. you play your side of the chessboard and i’ll play mine.from “your move” by yes“Move me on to any black squareUse me any time you want Just remember that the gold’s for us to capture all we want, anywhere Yeah, yeah, yeahDon’t surround yourself with yourself Move on back two squares Send an instant comment to me Initial it with loving care, don’t surround yourself.‘Cause it’s time, it’s time in time With your time and its news is captured …For the queen to use……”God I wish I could write songs like this… brilliant I say… and with jon anderson’s choirboy voice ?? lightning in a bottle for me…

    You’re not playing chess scotty you’re doing a circle jerk.

  66. avatar
    Sef May 6, 2013 at 6:01 pm #

    I’ve found that the most cost-effective way to accept payment is to get shipments of irony meters. There’s a railroad siding about 5 miles from my house where I pick them up every month. I put the broken ones in an adjacent car for recycling. Fortunately, the mainline doesn’t go through West,TX.

  67. avatar
    Sef May 6, 2013 at 6:04 pm #

    scott e: I have always said the 0bots have overacted. if they had just kept a low profile, then maybe the issue would have died.

    A tree falling in a forest with no one around comes to mind.

  68. avatar
    Greenfinches May 6, 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    Lupin: Some of us are furriners — which I assume is even worse.

    yep.- and we have socialized medicine (horror!!) and maybe even ban guns (double horror!!) ….. so help me, I even believe in evolution. There is no hope!

  69. avatar
    Sam the Centipede May 6, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    Linda Joy Adams: I want answers as I have lived most of the last 68 years with all kinds of secretive things that have never had answers for me and have affected behaviors of persons whom I loved as family.

    The answer is already clear. What you write is simply not true, and nobody but you believes it. Something in your mind is not letting you understand how unlikely it is that your fantastical and impossible story is true and that everybody else is deluded, and that all the hard evidence of Barack Obama’s life story is fabricated or false.

    I don’t think you are telling these stories out of malice, but that does not make your stories any less nonsensical. Please find somebody who can help you.

  70. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

    Sam the Centipede: Please find somebody who can help you.

    Seroquel

  71. avatar
    Keith May 6, 2013 at 6:44 pm #

    M Heuss: I imagine every birther has already picked out who’ll play them in the movies they imagine are to be made about this struggle. I wonder how many birthers dream of Brad Pitt, looking grim and determined, staring right at the usurper and saying “I knew justice would prevail! After your flogging and hanging, we will send you back to Kenya where you belong!”

    I think Orly has already got Brad Pitt under contract to play her.

    Or maybe it was Johnny Depp.

    I forget.

  72. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 6:49 pm #

    scott e: I believe 0bama even

    Scott uses “0” instead of “O” when writing ‘Obama.’

    That’s OK – people of scott e’s caliber are zeros.

  73. avatar
    Keith May 6, 2013 at 6:50 pm #

    Majority Will:
    I get paid in S&H Green Stamps. I’m saving up for a toaster oven.

    Your real name is Rip Van Winkle?

  74. avatar
    Majority Will May 6, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    Keith: Your real name is Rip Van Winkle?

    :-)

  75. avatar
    Keith May 6, 2013 at 7:00 pm #

    misha marinsky: There was a poster here who went by ‘Rambo Ike,’ and accused Obama of being a communist and a fascist. He went on to say Adolf Schicklgruber was a socialist, and socialism and fascism were both left wing systems.

    These people are wacko.

    Rupert Murdoch had a bust of Lenin in his room at Oxford.

    It makes you wonder if the maybe those nasty Commies were satisfied with just 5 guys from Cambridge, or did they recruit from Oxford too? And why not Harvard?

  76. avatar
    Keith May 6, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

    scott e: where will you be spending your knights…?? lol

    In white satin?

  77. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm #

    Keith: In white satin?

    I saw them with the Vermont symphony in stowe, full moon, what a magical night that was. justin hayward still had it… edge and pinder and lodge… they even arrived late, missed the rehearsal, didn’t matter though.

    they played Tuesday afternoon and of course, nights in white satin (late lament) in e minor.

    see them if you can, I guess they’re still going, I don’t know. they were a staple for me growing up.

  78. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 8:04 pm #

    misha marinsky: Scott uses “0″ instead of “O” when writing ‘Obama.’

    That’s OK – people of scott e’s caliber are zeros.

    what difference does it make ?? people of my calibre often use zeros, pretty perceptive though. but that was a long time ago….

  79. avatar
    scott e May 6, 2013 at 8:07 pm #

    Sef: A tree falling in a forest with no one around comes to mind.

    I guess we’ll know a little more on Wednesday, woops that’s right, you guys don’t watch fox, maybe you haven’t heard yet.

  80. avatar
    Northland10 May 6, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

    scott e: I tried to tell you about Chicago years ago, i’ll say it again, you’ll see….

    If Chicago were that controlling, we would be hosting the Olympics here soon. Did you take a computing class in college called Advanced 1D10T?

  81. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    scott e: where will you be spending your knights…??

    A Jewish member of Parliament is being knighted. He forgot his Latin as the queen tapped him on each shoulder, so he said, “…מה שתה הלילה הזה”

    When he finished, the queen said to her advisor “Why is this knight different from all other knights?”

    Thank you. I’ll be here all week.

  82. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm #

    scott e: nights in white satin (late lament) in e minor.

    Quick, name one song in B-flat.

  83. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater May 6, 2013 at 9:17 pm #

    scott e: I guess we’ll know a little more on Wednesday, woops that’s right, you guys don’t watch fox, maybe you haven’t heard yet.

    Have the goalposts shifted already Scotty? You guys originally said Monday.

  84. avatar
    Northland10 May 6, 2013 at 9:44 pm #

    misha marinsky: Quick, name one song in B-flat.

    The Ballad of my Truck Tire this Morning.

  85. avatar
    misha marinsky May 6, 2013 at 10:52 pm #

    misha marinsky: Quick, name one song in B-flat.

    “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”

  86. avatar
    Keith May 7, 2013 at 12:10 am #

    scott e: I saw them with the Vermont symphony in stowe, full moon, what a magical night that was. justin hayward still had it…

    I saw them in Phoenix in 1972 I think. All their equipment was held up by a train crash outside of Flagstaff, but they managed to find enough in Phoenix to replace it in time, even a Mellotron. It was a great concert, except for the asshole in the back of the place that kept yelling out “Knights In White Satin” at EVERY quite spot, between songs or in the middle of songs.

    I also met a lady at that concert and as she was from Tucson too, and had hitchhiked up for the concert, I drove her home. On the way out of the parking lot, a motorcycle cop came zooming past, not really too fast but fast enough, and just as he passed my car the brakes on his front wheel locked up and the whole thing did a somersault about 20 feet in the air. He landed very hard, but just stood up, walked over and picked up his bike checked his brakes, got back on and drove away.

    My new acquaintance was freaking out because she was convinced cops and ambulances were going to swoop down to pick up the pieces and she had been, shall we say, ‘self-medicating’ all night.

    I ended up dating her for about 3 years. So it was a good time all around.

  87. avatar
    Keith May 7, 2013 at 12:15 am #

    misha marinsky: “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”

    The key is the key.

    One of the funniest movies ever. Essentially a one woman tour-de-farce by Whoopee. Not many people could carry it off, and she hit a home run.

  88. avatar
    Kiwiwriter May 7, 2013 at 10:46 am #

    It amazes me that these folks think that defenders of Obama are automatically “on the payroll.”

    Their subtext is that we’ve sold out our honor, integrity, and ethics for money, and if we were not being bribed, we would see the “truth” and support it.

    To Eric Hoffer’s “true believers,” everyone is really on “their side,” and merely prevented from joining the great crusade — either by bribery, threat, blackmail, insidious forces, and so on.

    Deep down, these clowns all think that we really already know the truth, and just need to make the leap from reality and logic to their cause.

    It’s kind of pathetic, in a way…and it shows a contempt for human behavior…a belief that nobody but themselves acts on the basis of honor and integrity, and everyone is bribable or has a price.

  89. avatar
    Lupin May 7, 2013 at 10:51 am #

    Kiwiwriter: It’s kind of pathetic, in a way…and it shows a contempt for human behavior…a belief that nobody but themselves acts on the basis of honor and integrity, and everyone is bribable or has a price.

    It probably reflects the fact that they themselves are corrupt — simple projection.

  90. avatar
    Sef May 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: It amazes me that these folks think that defenders of Obama are automatically “on the payroll.”

    We are, but we’re paid in belly laughs. We have to be careful about not having a mouthful of coffee, otherwise keyboard replacement can get expensive.

  91. avatar
    JD Reed May 7, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

    Lupin: Welcome

    “It probably reflects the fact that they themselves are corrupt — simple projection.”
    Hear, hear!

  92. avatar
    Suranis May 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    misha marinsky: “Jumpin’ Jack Flash”

    The funny thing is that the song isn’t in B flat at all, but in the Key of B. The whole scene was a giant mistake.

    Great movie though, still love every minute of it. :)

  93. avatar
    Monkey Boy May 7, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    Sam the Centipede: I don’t think you are telling these stories out of malice, but that does not make your stories any less nonsensical. Please find somebody who can help you.

    You don’t get it. Linda Joy Adams–like Sven Magnuson–is a faux birther. Besides having fun spoofing a few birthers and a few more Obots, she and Sven are testing the limits of birther lunacy.

    I am ashamed of my envy for her creativity and imagination. Let’s not discourage her, but help to promote her attempts to expose fools and seditious grifters to ridicule.

  94. avatar
    misha marinsky May 7, 2013 at 6:52 pm #

    Suranis: The funny thing is that the song isn’t in B flat at all, but in the Key of B. The whole scene was a giant mistake.

    “Terry determines the password to be B-flat, after the key in which “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” is supposedly written (as the actual song by The Rolling Stones is recorded in the key of B-flat).”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpin'_Jack_Flash_(film)

  95. avatar
    Keith May 7, 2013 at 8:12 pm #

    misha marinsky: “Terry determines the password to be B-flat, after the key in which “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” is supposedly written (as the actual song by The Rolling Stones is recorded in the key of B-flat).”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpin'_Jack_Flash_(film)

    Mick! Speak English!

  96. avatar
    Suranis May 7, 2013 at 11:53 pm #

    misha marinsky: “Terry determines the password to be B-flat, after the key in which “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” is supposedly written (as the actual song by The Rolling Stones is recorded in the key of B-flat).”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpin'_Jack_Flash_(film)

    Heh, looks like we are both wrong. I looked up the sheet music and its actually in the key of A flat major.

    Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-flat_major

    With

    http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdFPE.asp?ppn=MN0046512

    Goddam I’m a pedantic git…

  97. avatar
    misha marinsky May 8, 2013 at 12:47 am #

    Suranis: I’m a pedantic git…

    Graham Chapman: “Stupid git.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

    It’s at 1:13.

  98. avatar
    The Magic M May 8, 2013 at 3:26 am #

    Kiwiwriter: Deep down, these clowns all think that we really already know the truth, and just need to make the leap from reality and logic to their cause.

    That’s because if a conspiracy believer admitted that people actually disagree with him, he’d also admit that the “other side” has good arguments for their version of things – and that’s something these cranks can never do. Therefore they have to believe the “other side” is actually agreeing with them and only pretends to disagree for nefarious reasons (being paid, lying to advance their agenda etc.).
    Simple psychology.

  99. avatar
    Northland10 May 8, 2013 at 7:26 am #

    Suranis: Heh, looks like we are both wrong. I looked up the sheet music and its actually in the key of A flat major.

    Goddam I’m a pedantic git…

    Sounds better in G sharp major.

  100. avatar
    Kiwiwriter May 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm #

    Lupin: It probably reflects the fact that they themselves are corrupt — simple projection.

    Absolutely right….they are corrupt, they know it, and they expect everyone else to be corrupt.

    I’ve noticed that with neo-Nazis and similar nutters. They are all about “blood and honor” in their public statements, but as soon as they get nailed by the cops for their misdeeds, they beg for plea bargains, rat out their buddies, turn informant, and do anything short of matricide to avoid jail.

    And several of these folks do indeed get nailed for acts of moral turpitude and corruption. Erich Gliebe of the National Alliance and Kevin Strom were pounded for child pornography. David Duke took donations to his causes and used them to test the laws of probability on Mississippi River floating casinos. Bill White and Matthew Hale threatened the lives of judges and juries. And Hal Turner and Glenn Miller were both FBI informants and neo-Nazi advocates, making them “cops and robbers” at the same time.

    I’m sure a good chunk of the Birthers are just as corrupt, venal, cynical, as these jerks, and engaging in the same practices for the same purposes: gaining undeserved fame and other peoples’ money.

  101. avatar
    scott e May 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm #

    Northland10: If Chicago were that controlling, we would be hosting the Olympics here soon.Did you take a computing class in college called Advanced 1D10T?

    no, I didn’t… sorry

  102. avatar
    scott e May 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

    Northland10 May 8, 2013 at 7:26 am (Quote) #

    Suranis: Heh, looks like we are both wrong. I looked up the sheet music and its actually in the key of A flat major.

    Goddam I’m a pedantic git…

    Sounds better in G sharp major.

    Technically, the difference between G# and Ab are the incidentals used in the sheet music. The key of G# requires one double-sharp (Fx) and six standard sharps.

    The key of Ab requires four flats and less effort to play on the keyboard. To us guitar pickers there is no difference between G# and Ab because we either play a straight note or the chord, with the common formation of F in the fourth fret.

    from yahoo answers….

  103. avatar
    Dave B. May 8, 2013 at 3:58 pm #

    Doc, I had to swallow my secret decoder ring. I really don’t want to retrieve it and keep using it– I sure as heck don’t want to if I ever have to swallow it again, so could you have another one dropped off for me? Use the alternate drop-off point, designated “Blue”. Thanks!

  104. avatar
    misha marinsky May 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm #

    scott e: no, I didn’t

    Yes, you did.

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    Northland10 May 8, 2013 at 6:19 pm #

    scott e:
    Technically, the difference between G# and Ab are the incidentals used in the sheet music. The key of G# requires one double-sharp (Fx) and six standard sharps.

    You are probably not aware that I am actually a professional musican and my comment was another example of my too subtle humor. G sharp is essentially the same a A flat, minus the profanity filled complaints from the musician on what idiot composer would write in this key.

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    Suranis May 8, 2013 at 7:43 pm #

    Northland10: G sharp is essentially the same a A flat, minus the profanity filled complaints from the musician on what idiot composer would write in this key.

    Yeah, I used to actually play the piano (Sadly I never kept it going) and I grinned.

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    scott e May 8, 2013 at 8:44 pm #

    Northland10: You are probably not aware that I am actually a professional musican and my comment was another example of my too subtle humor. G sharp is essentially the same a A flat, minus the profanity filled complaints from the musician on what idiot composer would write in this key.

    you can write in any key, and transpose later. I like e and a because of the harmonics on guitar (relative key). sometimes different to accommodate vox. but i’m an E man..

    you’re a musician, cool… what instrument(s) do you play (sing?). what kind of music ? i’m sort of a jamband type. jazz roots, art rock, improvised jams, lot’s of spontaneous exploration. full horn section when possible. with terry kath Chicago was a “horn centered rock” band. he was awesome, a staple for me growing up, Santana, john McLaughlin, larry Coryell. trey anastasio is pretty amazing, pat metheny, and so forth. I like to play blues too though…

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    scott e May 8, 2013 at 8:50 pm #

    Suranis: Yeah, I used to actually play the piano (Sadly I never kept it going) and I grinned.

    you can always pick it up again, electromic keyboards are inexpensive and easy to find, in fact I was on ebay U.K earlier today…, small units even with weighted keys. and headphones for late night. you should give it another try.. you’ll be glad you did, & try guitar.

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    misha marinsky May 8, 2013 at 8:52 pm #

    Northland10: You are probably not aware that I am actually a professional musican

    I have a SEM Ciao reedless digital accordion, with a Behringer tube amp; ~400 voices.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1jeHsgmlI

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    Keith May 8, 2013 at 11:56 pm #

    misha marinsky: I have a SEM Ciao reedless digital accordion, with a Behringer tube amp; ~400 voices.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1jeHsgmlI

    I played accordion when I was a kid. I was great with the right hand but I just couldn’t get the left hand to work properly. I was pretty natural on the trombone though except that I couldn’t really reach 7th position at the time. I figured out the circular breathing thing on my own without anyone even suggesting it to me. Put it down when I started touring with the Tucson Boys Chorus and never picked up up again.

    Now I wish I could still do the circular breathing stuff still because I think I’d quite like to play the Didgeridoo.

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    G May 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm #

    Agreed. That is all it is. These folks can’t attribute more noble motives to others, because they themselves lack such character qualities and they simply can’t fathom a world or people that behave beyond their own shallow flaws and limitations…

    Lupin: It probably reflects the fact that they themselves are corrupt — simple projection.

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    J. Edward Tremlett May 9, 2013 at 9:45 pm #

    IANAP, but “Who pays them and why do they offer their protection to their god the Messiah aka the Satan Antichrist-Obama free of charge?” has all the hallmarks of schizophrenic writing.

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    The Magic M May 10, 2013 at 4:29 am #

    Suranis: Yeah, I used to actually play the piano (Sadly I never kept it going) and I grinned.

    Same here. I’ve been playing the piano since I was 10 (and never really stopped). This year I’ve started playing guitar. I’m getting a bit too old to carry my piano to every campfire. *bada-bing*

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    Kiwiwriter May 10, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    G: Agreed. That is all it is. These folks can’t attribute more noble motives to others, because they themselves lack such character qualities and they simply can’t fathom a world or people that behave beyond their own shallow flaws and limitations…

    As they have no honor and cannot understand concepts of honor, they naturally project that inability onto others.

    Don’t forget that paranoids follow a “life script” in which things must happen, and when the world fails to perform according to the script, paranoids will make the negative event happen, so that their script comes true. They will provoke their “enemies” into reacting or overreacting to them, and blame them for the results. Their make their fantasies real and self-fulfilling, frustrated when they fail to happen.

    So this more than lackof understanding of honor, this is also paranoia, and “True belief.”