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Time’s up

It should be obvious to everybody that birthers never accomplish anything. Their lawsuits get dismissed, their events have tiny attendance, their books don’t sell, and Barack Obama is sitting in the White House. Nevertheless, they continue to attempt to keep the enthusiasm going and to create the sense of movement when there is no movement.

There’s no better example of this than Mike Zullo and the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse who pretend to be a law enforcement investigation, but in fact just write misleading reports and promise that some day their “investigation” will produce results and that something will come of it. The real evidence, they say, can’t be released yet. Well, Mike Zullo may write another least-seller book and perhaps that is what he is waiting for.

GoalPostAdhesiveIn this short article, I wanted to highlight two instances where birthers “any day now” approach to inactivity has actually been specific, and has fizzled. The first is a remark here by commenter Hermitian, who said on May 21:

The wheels will come off your Obot wagon in two weeks.

All my wheels seem to be in place and functioning normally. I haven’t even lost any marbles.

The second is a May 26 title from Orly Taitz:

There are 7 days left for Sheriff Arpaio and CCP Director Zullo to file a criminal complaint against Barack Obama based on Zullo’s recent statements that they proved that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a 100% forgery. If they do not file the criminal complaint, the donors will start demanding a refund of all the donations solicited and received by Arpaio, Zullo and CCP for over 2 years under false pretenses, when they stated that they need donations for the criminal investigation of Barack Obama for his use of forged IDs as a basis of his eligibility when he ran for the U.S. President in Maricopa county Arizona and elsewhere.

In fact Taitz has been publishing these titles daily, counting down to the arbitrary deadline. She claims that people are actually asking for refunds now. It just shows the impotence of the birthers that their threat resulted in nothing.

The closest thing I can come up with for such irrational optimism is gambling, only in the case of the lottery, somebody wins. The birthers will never win.

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33 Responses to Time’s up

  1. avatar
    JPotter June 10, 2013 at 9:38 am #

    The endless deadlines are birfese for “Stay Tuned …. pleasepleasepleaseOHpuh-leeeeeeeze!”

    Old Hermitian nominated practically everyday on the 2011 and 2012 calendars during his extended run over at Amazon.

    Birtherism ….. Putting Millenialism to Continual, Any Day Now Shame since 2008

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    Bob June 10, 2013 at 9:52 am #

    The Cold Case Posse exists for entertainment purposes only. Movie producers and book publishers don’t generally give refunds for unsatisfying cliffhangers.

    The CCP is like porno for Birthers.

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    Jim June 10, 2013 at 10:30 am #

    Bob:
    The CCP is like porno for Birthers.

    UGH!!! No wonder Hermi and the hermits type so badly…only using one hand! Erase that image!!!

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    Rickey June 10, 2013 at 10:42 am #

    There are 7 days left for Sheriff Arpaio and CCP Director Zullo to file a criminal complaint against Barack Obama based on Zullo’s recent statements that they proved that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a 100% forgery.

    And Orly is now questioning Zullo’s claim about having a report from a certified forensics document examiner, because experts told her that they would have to compare the PDF to the original before reaching any conclusions. Orly just doesn’t recognize the inherent inconsistency in her position. She’s right about the document examiners, but that means that Zullo couldn’t possibly have proof that the birth certificate is a “100% forgery.”

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    donna June 10, 2013 at 10:55 am #

    i think hell has frozen over – for once i agree with orly: (a re-post from the open thread)

    “If Zullo has a statement from a forensic document examiner, he should make it public. what is he waiting for? why is he making a deal for the examiner not to make public his report?”

    1. I contacted multiple forensic document examiners. They all told me that they cannot sign an opinion that the copy produced for public consumption is a forgery without seeing the original document on file, and Hawaii refuses to release the original (wet ink) document, even after I served them with a federal subpoena. Zullo never had any subpoenas and he never saw the original document, so I am extremely surprised that the Forensic Document Examiner agreed to sign an opinion that the document is a forgery without actually seeing the original document on file. I am not saying he didn’t, but we need to see it, we need to see what did he actually write.

    there’s more (none seems to be written by her, IMO)

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=424217

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    john June 10, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going. This could take a couple of months. As for the forensic examiner not releasing report…this is probably stragtetic move to prevent Obots from putting out misinformation. As to the question on why a report would made without consulting the original…As Mike Zullo has said the original is IRRELEVANT as the overall crimes that have been committed. The PDF is a FORGERY and the PDF is the birth certificate that has been purported to be Obama’s original long form birth certificate. As for the ORIGINAL, that has never been seen. As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCONCLUSIVE, VAGUE and CONFLICTING.

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    Birther Weary June 10, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    “The closest thing I can come up with for such irrational optimism is gambling, only in the case of the lottery, somebody wins. The birthers will never win.”

    Don’t overlook insanity in Taitz’s case. She has managed to achieve two things in her life: she married her way into citizenship, and even more impressively, she found a way to fake taking the CA Bar exam. The latter is worthy of an investigative reporter’s time.

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    Arthur June 10, 2013 at 12:04 pm #

    Doc wrote, “The closest thing I can come up with for such irrational optimism is gambling.” I wouldn’t call it irrational optimism; I’d call it irrational hatred. Never underestimate the power of hate to fill a person with limitless fantasies of getting revenge and extracting punishment. Birthers burn with a passion that some day they’ll be able to see their enemies writhing in punishment and disgrace. That passion animates their websites and encourages them to trust in charlatans who promise that it won’t be long until their faith is rewarded.

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    Thinker June 10, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

    It also means that she knows that tech-school grad Chito Papa and scanner salesman Doug Vogt and typist Paul Irey aren’t experts.

    Rickey: Orly just doesn’t recognize the inherent inconsistency in her position. She’s right about the document examiners, but that means that Zullo couldn’t possibly have proof that the birth certificate is a “100% forgery.”

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    aarrgghh June 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

    for conspiracy theorists, time never runs out.

    “any day now” is like crack cocaine to a hardcore birfer and miguel zullo is the pablo escobar of the moment. each hit he delivers gives birfers an intense but inevitably short-lived combination of euphoria, omnipotence and arrogance that birfers therefore need at regular intervals in order to keep at bay the crushing despair that comes with the realization that they’ve wasted the last five years of their lives (and in the case of terry lakin, ruined everything he worked his entire life for).

    from the aptly named “fantasywriter”

    Identifying the date stamps IS new, big news. Makes me wish I had a Rep. in the House who cared. Instead, I have Kingston. Hopefully there are others who will get on board. Zullo wasn’t kidding about having cards he hasn’t shown yet. This is going to reach the point of no return before very long. [I.e.: their case will be unstoppable. That’s what happens when you put a seasoned, indefatigable investigator like Zullo on the trail of a total fraud like Obama. To think he & Arpaio are succeeding where so many others have failed. It’s very exciting.]

    ———–

    I have had my $ on Zullo for some time now. He was the right man at the right time w the right backing. Let us keep him in our prayers. The next few mos are crucial.

    ———–

    Zullo is on a roll. He’s got the goods & now he’s making his case. Just from the parts of it we’ve seen, it is a VERY strong case—& we haven’t even seen all his info yet. Obama’s scandals have broken at just the right time, plus there are Tea Party congressional members who don’t toe the GOPe line. Add it all up, & the future looks good!

    and the future looks even better for crack dealers.

  11. avatar
    Paper June 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm #

    Now when is Orly Taitz going to start taking Zullo to court?

  12. avatar
    Never Nothing June 10, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    Where’s your [expletive deleted. Doc.] two-digit year selective service registration card example?

    Would it be wrong to consider you a silly, self-aggrandizing [expletive deleted. Doc.]?

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm #

    Tsk, tsk. Taking the Lord’s name in vain. Very naughty.

    Obama draft registration came directly from the Selective Service during the Bush Administration. There is no reason to look for another 2-digit example. We have Obama’s. And anyway, if I came up with 100 of them, you’d just move on to some other silly thing to hang your delusion on.

    I did find all sorts of missing things in postal stamps (and Selective Service cards are stamped by the Post Office using regular hand cancels used for mail). I found these just laying around the house, so they must be pretty common.

    No go hang out around potty-mouthed people who appreciate that kind of talk. I do not.

    Never Nothing:
    Where’s your [expletive deleted. Doc.]two-digit year selective service registration card example?

    Would it be wrong to consider you a silly, self-aggrandizing [expletive deleted. Doc.]?

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    Never Nothing June 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: No go hang out around potty-mouthed people who appreciate that kind of talk. I do not.

    And as a silly, self-aggrandizing jerk-off, in the end it’s all about you.

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm #

    Perhaps you can explain to me why faking a PDF image of a birth certificate and putting it on the Internet is a crime.

    Obama’s birth certificate (in any form) was never submitted to any election official to get on the ballot. Obviously the PDF wasn’t around when he got his passport. It’s never been used for any official purpose. So, what’s the crime? Surely a law man would have a crime in mind before doing an investigation.

    I think that there is a well-established precedent that a politician lying to the public is not a crime.

    As for the original certified copy, the entire White House press corps saw it, and Hawaii’s verification is only confused to people who are already confused beyond help.

    john: The PDF is a FORGERY and the PDF is the birth certificate that has been purported to be Obama’s original long form birth certificate. As for the ORIGINAL, that has never been seen. As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCONCLUSIVE, VAGUE and CONFLICTING.

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    aarrgghh June 10, 2013 at 6:08 pm #

    john: As for the forensic examiner not releasing report…this is probably stragtetic move to prevent Obots from putting out misinformation.

    don’t you have that backwards? hiding the report only encourages the proliferation of misinformation. the so-called “strategic move” would be to release the report as early as possible.

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    Steve June 10, 2013 at 6:12 pm #

    john:
    …As for the ORIGINAL, that has never been seen.As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCONCLUSIVE, VAGUE and CONFLICTING.

    John, there is no lawyer in the world that could parse Hawaii’s verifications to the point where they mean anything other than what they said.
    They said he was born there. They said the information on the documents President Obama released matches what they have on file.
    That’s as straightforward as it gets. There is no lawyer in the world who can twist that into anything else.

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    Rickey June 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Perhaps you can explain to me why faking a PDF image of a birth certificate and putting it on the Internet is a crime.

    Obama’s birth certificate (in any form) was never submitted to any election official to get on the ballot. Obviously the PDF wasn’t around when he got his passport. It’s never been used for any official purpose. So, what’s the crime? Surely a law man would have a crime in mind before doing an investigation.

    I think that there is a well-established precedent that a politician lying to the public is not a crime.

    For two years I have been asking birthers to identify the statutes which they believe Obama has violated. All I get in return is silence.

    As you pointed out, he has never (to our knowledge) used his LFBC for an official purpose.

    Obama could wallpaper the White House with PDFs of his birth certificate and it would not be a crime.

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    Keith June 10, 2013 at 7:13 pm #

    Rickey: Obama could wallpaper the White House with PDFs of his birth certificate and it would not be a crime.

    I dunno about that. There is such a thing as a crime against good taste.

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    sfjeff June 10, 2013 at 8:19 pm #

    john: At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going. This could take a couple of months.

    hah seriously- you believe this BS?

    Oh John……before they take all of your money, I need to let you in on this amazing situation I have with a Nigerian General….all I will need is your bank account number….

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    JPotter June 10, 2013 at 8:42 pm #

    john: At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo

    Really? When was the last time Arpaio publicly birfed? Honey, Shurruff Joe used y’all as a means to re-election. He’s terrified of being out of office, and with many good reasons!

    john: are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress

    Man, you hit it on the head. “… just now … ” Just now?!?

    john: As for the forensic examiner not releasing report…this is probably stragtetic move to prevent Obots from putting out misinformation.

    John, dear, you really are precious. So good of you to make sure all the horses were long gone before securing the stalls. Have you considered a career as a pro wrasslin’ referee?

    john: original is IRRELEVANT as the overall crimes that have been committed. The PDF is a FORGERY

    The original is irrelevant when alleging that a purported copy of said original has been altered or fabricated? Is this a homage to Chinese prosecutorial inanities of the 1950s, or Soviet legal absurdities of the 1920s?

    john: As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCON[VENIENT], [EXPLICIT] and CON[CISE].

    FIFY. Hey, I can type in all-caps, too!

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    Hermitian June 10, 2013 at 9:41 pm #

    Before Mr. C gets too full of himself I would like to clear up an earlier post of his that he got wrong.

    See: http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/07/the-cadwaladr-file/
    .

    “The Cadwaladr files (new and improved patch release 1.1))

    “By Dr. Conspiracy on July 1, 2011in Birth Certificate, Debunking”

    Mr. C’s analysis of Caldwaladr’s observation was flawed.

    He posted Caldwaladr’s image of the matching “Bs” in Obama II and I after he magnified Caldwaladr’s image by a zoom ratio of 200%.

    He then posted his own image that he stated was taken by exporting the PDF to a bitmap image in Adobe Acrobat. Of course this bitmap image is different from the original embedded bitmap image in the original WH LFCOLB PDF image. However, Mr. C was careful to use a higher zoom ratio of 400% than the 200% zoom ratio that he himself had applied to Caldwaladr’s image (which had been taken directly from the PDF).

    Mr. C’s conclusion: Caldwaladr’s finding that the two capital “Bs” are identical is debunked because Mr. C’s bitmap image (exported from the PDF image with Acrobat) is different from Caldwaladr’s image which was taken directly from the PDF.

    Mr. C also left the reader with the impression that his image is more accurate than Caldwaladr’s image because his image was obtained using a higher zoom ratio (400% vs 200%).

    The only problem is that I also compared the two “Bs” in the WH LFCOLB PDF image in Adobe Illustrator CS6 at a zoom ratio of 6400%. I also found that the two “Bs” in Obama II and I are identical at this zoom ratio and both are also identical to Caldwaladr’s two “Bs”.

    Another example from the past of the consistent poor quality of Obot debunking. And it hasn’t gotten any better since.

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    Benji Franklin June 10, 2013 at 11:23 pm #

    john: At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going. This could take a couple of months.

    John, you need help with your spelling. Let me correct these two sentences for you:

    At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing GONG. This could take a couple of MOUTHS.

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    AlCum June 11, 2013 at 12:06 am #

    john:
    At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going.This could take a couple of months.As for the forensic examiner not releasing report…this is probably stragtetic move to prevent Obots from putting out misinformation.As to the question on why a report would made without consulting the original…As Mike Zullo has said the original is IRRELEVANT as the overall crimes that have been committed.The PDF is a FORGERY and the PDF is the birth certificate that has been purported to be Obama’s original long form birth certificate.As for the ORIGINAL, that has never been seen.As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCONCLUSIVE, VAGUE and CONFLICTING.

    You are incorrect in every claim you made. The BC has been proven real, it’s not even possible for it to be forged.

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    CarlOrcas June 11, 2013 at 1:10 am #

    john: At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going. This could take a couple of months.

    Who have they contacted? If you can’t tell us who they’ve contacted then how do you know they have contacted anyone?

    And why is it taking “a couple months” to get this done? You can do an e-mail blast to all members of Congress plus a bulk Mailgram in a couple hours.

    Any day now.

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    Majority Will June 11, 2013 at 2:14 am #

    Steve: John, there is no lawyer in the world that could parse Hawaii’s verifications to the point where they mean anything other than what they said.
    They said he was born there. They said the information on the documents President Obama released matches what they have on file.
    That’s as straightforward as it gets. There is no lawyer in the world who can twist that into anything else.

    No lawyer? O RLY? 🙂

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    aarrgghh June 11, 2013 at 2:39 am #

    CarlOrcas: Who have they contacted? If you can’t tell us who they’ve contacted then how do you know they have contacted anyone?

    And why is it taking “a couple months” to get this done? You can do an e-mail blast to all members of Congress plus a bulk Mailgram in a couple hours.

    Any day now.

    it’s the “early stages”.

    the posse’s just winding up, ed norton style. it’ll be at least a couple months.

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    Lupin June 11, 2013 at 3:55 am #

    john:
    At this point, the Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo are now in the early stages of contacting members of Congress to get a Congressional Hearing going.This could take a couple of months.As for the forensic examiner not releasing report…this is probably stragtetic move to prevent Obots from putting out misinformation.As to the question on why a report would made without consulting the original…As Mike Zullo has said the original is IRRELEVANT as the overall crimes that have been committed.The PDF is a FORGERY and the PDF is the birth certificate that has been purported to be Obama’s original long form birth certificate.As for the ORIGINAL, that has never been seen.As for the Hawaii verifications, they are INCONCLUSIVE, VAGUE and CONFLICTING.

    This is rubbish — and I strongly suspect you know it.

    The fact is, Obama is your President, twice elected, and will remain your President until 2016, and very likely will be succeeded by Hillary Clinton. (You don’t think Rick Santorum has a chance, do you?)

    You and your ilk of sore losers are condemned to eat sh*t for years to come.

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    The Magic M June 11, 2013 at 4:38 am #

    CarlOrcas: Any day now.

    It seems even the die-hard birthers can’t manage to feed OMG moments on a monthly basis anymore and have shifted to “any year now”.

    The cranks in my country usually put their “this time for real” deadlines at least 9 months apart and so far, many die-hard followers have been waiting for at least 7 years so I’d expect birthers to go the same route.

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    The Magic M June 11, 2013 at 4:43 am #

    Steve: There is no lawyer in the world who can twist that into anything else.

    Maybe the birthers could get Stuart H. Singer of Boies, Schiller & Flexner to represent them. He’s the guy who argued for SCO in SCO vs. Novell and claimed that a provision “everything transfers to SCO except copyrights” means that copyrights also transfered because they are part of “everything” (slightly simplified, of course).
    He failed, but at least he built a case on that basis that went on for years.

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    richCares June 11, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    john’s posts have gone beyond stupid, it has to be satire. My guess he is “foggy” of fogbow portraying a birther to discredit birthers.

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    Daniel June 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

    Hermitian:

    Another example from the past of the consistent poor quality of Obot debunking.And it hasn’t gotten any better since.

    It’s good enough to consistently win every single court case. It’s good enough that Obama is STILL President. It’s good enough that it agrees with the State of Hawaii’s verification of the information.

    It may not be good enough for you birthers, but then reality is never good enough for you.

    So as long as it’s good enough to support reality, which it is, then it’s good enough…

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    nbc June 11, 2013 at 6:30 pm #

    Hermitian: Another example from the past of the consistent poor quality of Obot debunking. And it hasn’t gotten any better since.

    Hint: JBIG2 compression… Yes I know that preview removes all traces of such compression but all the evidence points to this.

    Nothing remarkable.