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Cold Case Posse referred to IRS for failure to file Form 990

Most of the detail has already been presented in my article, “Is the Cold Case Posse a Charity?” The Maricopa County Sheriffs Cold Case Posse, Inc. (MCSOCCP) is designated a 501(c)(3) exempt organization (a charity that doesn’t pay taxes and who can accept tax-deductible contributions). Generally such organizations are required to file reports of their expenditures with the IRS on Form 990.

There is a reporting exemption for organizations that are “affiliates of governmental units” under the presumption that the governmental unit keeps tabs on their financial activities, and GuideStar (a source of information on non-profits) says that the MCSOCCP claims such an exemption; however, the MCSOCCP does not qualify for the exemption based on IRS criteria unless the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office provides financial management or financial oversight of the Posse. The missing piece of evidence of illegal activity (failure to file Form 990) that I alluded to in a comment yesterday is a letter from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office indicating that there is no financial management or oversight by the Sheriff’s Office of its Cold Case Posse. Here’s the letter:

I filed a referral with the IRS this morning. By law, the IRS cannot provide any status information about such referrals beyond acknowledgment of receipt. The Cold Case Posse is also “not in good standing” with the State of Arizona for failure to file a report due last June (not a financial report).

The problem here, and the reason that I filed the referral, is that the Cold Case Posse, while claiming a government tax exemption, does not report its expenditures as required by law: It doesn’t report them to the Sheriff’s Office, it doesn’t report them to the Arizona Secretary of State, and it doesn’t report them to the IRS.

Update:

I looked on an additional web site, 501c3lookup.org, and the way I interpret that information, it appears that the IRS considers the Cold Case Posse an instrumentality of a state or political subdivision. (The material I presented to the IRS would demonstrate that this classification is not applicable to the Cold Case Posse.)

When applying to the IRS, one of the questions on the application for exemption form (Form 1023) is: Are you affiliated with a governmental unit? Besides an indication that an explanation should be provided for a “Yes” answer, there aren’t any specific questions for determining whether or not the applicant qualifies as a governmental unit. If the MCSOCCP has indeed a determination from the IRS that it is a governmental unit, and the IRS did its job correctly, and I correctly understand the criteria, one would conclude that the MCSOCCP misrepresented itself to the IRS or that it operates in a materially different way from when it was chartered.

By law an exempt organization is required to provide a copy of Form 1023 upon request and I requested this from the Cold Case Posse in a letter sent by certified mail, but of course the Cold Case Posse doesn’t claim its certified mail.

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72 Responses to Cold Case Posse referred to IRS for failure to file Form 990

  1. avatar
    scott e August 6, 2013 at 10:20 am #

    this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc. maybe you’ll get a reward, which you can use for this site. either way, it’s good to see you engaged.

  2. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 6, 2013 at 10:33 am #

    I would say “suspicious” rather than “worried.” But the reason I filed the complaint was to get what should be public information so I can publish it. This is a fact checking and information web site. It’s what I do.

    Another IRS complaint was filed by someone else alleging that the CCP did misuse charitable funds, and that one might garner a reward. I would not expect a reward from mine.

    scott e: this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc.

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    Curious George August 6, 2013 at 10:37 am #

    Doc quote:

    “The problem here, and the reason that I filed the referral, is that the Cold Case Posse, while claiming a government tax exemption, does not report its expenditures as required by law: It doesn’t report them to the Sheriff’s Office, it doesn’t report them to the Arizona Secretary of State, and it doesn’t report them to the IRS.”

    Amazing isn’t it?

  4. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 10:38 am #

    Man o man, what a great scam! Got Sheriff protection from any kind of investigation, no accounting of where the money is coming from and where it is going, a group of victims just waiting to be robbed, and a bunch of gullible believers who act as recruiters and co-conspirators. Wonder how I can get a cut of this?

  5. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 6, 2013 at 10:51 am #

    This is the first complaint I’ve filed, and I think that it is appropriate. There are all sorts of things birthers do that I would consider illegal, but I am not directly affected. I think that some of the birther attorneys have done things that are unethical, but not directly against me. However, as a publisher of a blog, the unavailability of information that is by all rights public, and that I would routinely publish if I had it, does affect me directly, and makes me the person who should file the complaint.

  6. avatar
    Rickey August 6, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    scott e:
    this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc.

    It’s your used car salesman pal Mike Zullo who should be worried.

  7. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    scott e:
    this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc. maybe you’ll get a reward, which you can use for this site. either way, it’s good to see you engaged.

    You’re not concerned that Zullo may be doing something improper, possibly illegal?

    Are you going to ask him about this?

  8. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 11:17 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: it, does affect me directly, and makes me the person who should file the complaint.

    Truth is it affects all of us if this man is misusing a tax subsidized (that’s what a tax exemption is) organization improperly or illegally.

    Nice work, Doc!

  9. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 11:18 am #

    CarlOrcas: You’re not concerned that Zullo may be doing something improper, possibly illegal?

    You aren’t concerned that the local Sheriff may be acting in concert with Zullo to aid and abet criminal activity Scott?

  10. avatar
    Woodrowfan August 6, 2013 at 11:19 am #

    good for you.

  11. avatar
    Suranis August 6, 2013 at 11:20 am #

    I am pleased that people are going to be indicted for wrongdoing as a result of the CCCP Investigation.

    (See what I did there)

  12. avatar
    Lupin August 6, 2013 at 11:34 am #

    Kudoes to you, Doc. Pull out the weeds.

    If only the California Bar could somehow take Orly’s license away.

  13. avatar
    Arthur August 6, 2013 at 11:36 am #

    Suranis: (See what I did there)

    No, I don’t see–hey, wait a minute! I think you’re implying that MIKE ZULLO will be indicted and NOT Nobama! And, hold on . . . you abbreviated the name of the Cold Case Posse so that it reads like the initials for the Soviet Union!!!

    Typical sawlinsky tactics. I don’t know what sawlinsky tactics are, but I hear my birther friends saying it about Obots, so I know it must be BAD!

  14. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 6, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    Scott and John are probably wetting themselves as we speak.

  15. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater August 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

    Arthur: No, I don’t see–hey, wait a minute! I think you’re implying that MIKE ZULLO will be indicted and NOT Nobama! And, hold on . . . you abbreviated the name of the Cold Case Posse so that it reads like the initials for the Soviet Union!!!Typical sawlinsky tactics. I don’t know what sawlinsky tactics are, but I hear my birther friends saying it about Obots, so I know it must be BAD!

    Sawlinsky? Wasn’t that Dan Akroyd’s character in Tommy Boy?

  16. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater August 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

    scott e: this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc. maybe you’ll get a reward, which you can use for this site. either way, it’s good to see you engaged.

    Yes we know that the law doesn’t seem to matter to you.

  17. avatar
    Majority Will August 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm #

    CarlOrcas: You’re not concerned that Zullo may be doing something improper, possibly illegal?

    Are you going to ask him about this?

    About as much as any birther bigot cared about any other Presidential candidate’s birth certificate.

  18. avatar
    Curious George August 6, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Truth is it affects all of us if this man is misusing a tax subsidized (that’s what a tax exemption is) organization improperly or illegally.

    Nice work, Doc!

    This IRS information needs to be brought to the attention of the Phoenix news media. And the CCP wants to hold Obama accountable? Are they serious? How are their donations really being used?

    I heard on the radio that Zullo is going on tour to speak to Tea Party groups (more fund raising?) He should be easy to find to get some questions answered. Just look to Carl Gallups for the schedule of future meetings.

  19. avatar
    Patrick McKinnion August 6, 2013 at 1:44 pm #

    Oh, I’m sure they make regular financial reports to World Net Daily and Joseph Farah.

  20. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 1:46 pm #

    Curious George: This IRS information needs to be brought to the attention of the Phoenix news media.And the CCP wants to hold Obama accountable? Are they serious?How are their donations really being used?

    I heard on the radio that Zullo is going on tour to speak to Tea Party groups (more fund raising?) He shouldbe easy to find to get some questions answered.Just look to Carl Gallups for the schedule of future meetings.

    I’m sure links to Doc’s material will be showing up in Phoenix reporter’s mailboxes soon enough.

    As far as a Tea Party tour is concerned….what other reason could there be than to continue to milk the birther cow?

    The President will be in Phoenix today. Any money on the chances of Zullo doing anything while he’s there?

  21. avatar
    HistorianDude August 6, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    scott e:
    this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc.

    And your response makes it seem you don’t care that birthers are inveterate law breakers.

  22. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 2:11 pm #

    CarlOrcas: The President will be in Phoenix today. Any money on the chances of Zullo doing anything while he’s there?

    Getting arrested for fraud would be a nice late birthday present for the President.

  23. avatar
    BatGuano August 6, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

    the birthers will go absolutely ape-spit with “obama is using the IRS to target patriot groups!!!” if they do reprimand and/or fine the CCP.

    should get fun to watch.

  24. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 2:46 pm #

    Jim: Getting arrested for fraud would be a nice late birthday present for the President.

    Only in the birthers most turgid fantasy.

  25. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Only in the birthers most turgid fantasy.

    It wasn’t clear I meant Zullo getting arrested for fraud? Bummer! Arpaio getting charged as an accessory would be the icing on the cake! 😀

  26. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    Jim: It wasn’t clear I meant Zullo getting arrested for fraud?Bummer!Arpaio getting charged as an accessory would be the icing on the cake!

    Ah, that makes me turgid…..metaphorically speaking, of course.

  27. avatar
    Thomas The Paine August 6, 2013 at 3:53 pm #

    I just found this website: I must say that I have never before seen such an array of Obamaholes! I’m impressed.

    Did you make sure the you filed you complaint against the CCP directly with Lois Lerner?

  28. avatar
    justlw August 6, 2013 at 4:45 pm #

    scott e:
    this makes you seem worried about what they are doing doc. maybe you’ll get a reward, which you can use for this site. either way, it’s good to see you engaged.

    This makes you seem like you’re desperate to characterize a fact-finding action against an opaque organization purporting to be a combination charity/crimefighting superpower as some kind of coverup of its own, or even a for-profit activity.

    But I’m sure that can’t be your intent.

  29. avatar
    justlw August 6, 2013 at 4:58 pm #

    A couple of thoughts:

    1. So after all these years of Obots asking, “Give us just one example of records being sealed,” we finally have one.

    2. String ’em up for apostrophe abuse!

  30. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm #

    The silence is deafening!

    Late afternoon eastern time and a quick check of regular birther websites that I’m familiar with fails to find a mention of this story. I wonder why?

    Has anyone seen it anywhere?

  31. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 5:37 pm #

    CarlOrcas:
    The silence is deafening!

    Late afternoon eastern time and a quick check of regular birther websites that I’m familiar with fails to find a mention of this story. I wonder why?

    They’re realizing now that Zullo has been scamming them all along and keeping most of the donations for himself.

  32. avatar
    Majority Will August 6, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

    Jim: They’re realizing now that Zullo has been scamming them all along and keeping most of the donations for himself.

    Arizona property taxes aren’t going to pay for themselves.

  33. avatar
    Curious George August 6, 2013 at 6:05 pm #

    Zullo and Gallups are requesting that everyone write letters ( not emails ) to get Congressman Stockman’s attention regarding the introduction of a so called presidential fraud bill. Doc, are you going to send a copy of your complaint to Congressman Stockman? Zullo insists it must be sent as a paper communication by the postal service because it will receive more attention than emails, faxes, skywriting or anything else.

    Zullo also was soliciting financial donations for Congressman Stockman on the radio broadcast with Gallups (see link). This would appear to be an additional violation of the non-profit CCP articles of incorporation which forbids the CCP from campaigning for a polical candidate.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/mike-zullo-on-rep-stockmans-impending-fraud-bill/

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    Curious George August 6, 2013 at 6:06 pm #

    CarlOrcas:
    The silence is deafening!

    Late afternoon eastern time and a quick check of regular birther websites that I’m familiar with fails to find a mention of this story. I wonder why?

    Has anyone seen it anywhere?

    Their agenda is not the truth.

  35. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 6, 2013 at 6:48 pm #

    I don’t see that as a problem. Poruchik Mikhail Zullov as a person can say whatever he wants. If he adds a donation link like this to the CCP web site, that would be a problem–but I don’t think Zullov is that arrogant.

    Curious George: Zullo also was soliciting financial donations for Congressman Stockman on the radio broadcast with Gallups (see link). This would appear to be an additional violation of the non-profit CCP articles of incorporation which forbids the CCP from campaigning for a polical candidate.

  36. avatar
    Jim August 6, 2013 at 7:20 pm #

    Curious George:
    Zullo and Gallups are requesting that everyone write letters ( not emails ) to get Congressman Stockman’s attention regarding the introduction of a so called presidential fraud bill…Zullo also was soliciting financial donations for Congressman Stockman on the radio broadcast with Gallups

    Great! I’ll give my Congressman a quick e-mail and have him warn the Congressional Post Office to be on the look-out (smell-out?) for the stench of birther mail. Should only need to quarantine them for 3 years or so.

    Good idea by Zullo, if the bs he calls evidence isn’t enough to convince them, try bribery.

  37. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 6, 2013 at 8:01 pm #

    Nancy Owens Barger posted a link to Doc’s story on ORYR four hours ago in the Obama birthday thread.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/vanity-fair-obama-celebrates-52nd.html#idc-cover

    Any day now.

  38. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 6, 2013 at 8:19 pm #

    CarlOrcas:
    Nancy Owens Barger posted a link to Doc’s story on ORYR four hours ago in the Obama birthday thread.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/vanity-fair-obama-celebrates-52nd.html#idc-cover

    Any day now.

    So what does she hope to accomplish by reposting that?
    Nancy is an amusing on. She’s too nuts for the other birthers. Even Falcon can’t stand her. Its priceless really.

  39. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater August 6, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: So what does she hope to accomplish by reposting that?
    Nancy is an amusing on. She’s too nuts for the other birthers. Even Falcon can’t stand her. Its priceless really.

    I guess she got tired of spamming her nonsense everywhere

  40. avatar
    Mr. Fixit August 6, 2013 at 9:09 pm #

    You sicced the IRS on ’em!

    Next thing you know the crazy birfoons will be calling you a RAT !

    ha ha.

  41. avatar
    ObiWanCannoli August 6, 2013 at 9:12 pm #

    Due to no raised seal, too many layers and halos around most of the characters in the letter, Zullo, the Supreme Commander of the CCCP, will ask Hayes to exam it and render his opinion.

  42. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater August 6, 2013 at 9:53 pm #

    ObiWanCannoli:
    Due to no raised seal, too many layers and halos around most of the characters in the letter, Zullo, the Supreme Commander of the CCCP, will ask Hayes to exam it and render his opinion.

    What’s he going to opine on besides the signature? He’s a graphologist

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    Jim August 6, 2013 at 10:07 pm #

    ObiWanCannoli:
    Due to no raised seal, too many layers and halos around most of the characters in the letter, Zullo, the Supreme Commander of the CCCP, will ask Hayes to exam it and render his opinion.

    I can tell you why those halos appear and why they are totally software generated by the viewing program. Can Zullo?

  44. avatar
    JPotter August 6, 2013 at 11:16 pm #

    Between the CCCP and MCSO and WND, where oh where to begin???

    So, MCSO endorses the heck out of the CCCP (at least while there’s an election on), granting them … uh …. “moral authority” …. to the point of admitting they bankrolled a Hawaii vacation with public funds … but hey, don’t worry about the sale of public law enforcements assets to private interests (“We swear the donations are rolling in to reimburse even now!”) … but now disavows any financial oversight? Sooo, funds were inappropriately offloaded into a black hole? How would MCSO know when it had been “reimbursed” had that scheme been allowed to continue?

    And MCSO has no financial oversight of its longstanding Cold Case Posse? Yeah right. This organization wasn’t invented for birtherism, just badly misdirected by it.

    MCSO is responsible for its “posses”. It was sanctioned in court for failing to properly train volunteers, and letting poorly trained volunteers go over the line as to what was appropriate for volunteers. To put it mildly.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if 1) the CCCP (or at least the Zullo fronted activities) had no recordkeeping at all; or 2) this is simple stonewalling, and whatever records that do exist (say, records of funds going from MCSO to CCCP) would be very inconvenient if released.

    Bottom line: at minimum, MCSO is admitting they mishandle public funds.

  45. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 6, 2013 at 11:39 pm #

    What does the audience member at a magic show see? What the magician directs them to see. Granted, Hayes is probably qualified only to opine on whether a signature is genuine or not, but that has never stopped a birther from claiming an opinion beyond their expertise.

    Try to put yourself in Hayes’ shoes. I think that we sometimes don’t realize how intuitive the birther’s document forgery argument is. I go back to the video JPotter linked to earlier:

    http://www.usatoday.com/video/computer-expert-examines-arpaio-birther-documents/1484305946001

    Here we have the CEO of Data Doctors Computer Services & Data Forensics Labs saying in a news interview that he listened to the first Cold Case Posse press conference and:

    When I first saw it it was very convincing until we did our test and saw that, wait a minute, our scanner does the same thing.

    We’ve been eating and breathing this stuff for over 2 years, but you have to remember how much debunking work went on between April of 2011 and today when we’ve pinned down the hardware and software involved in making the PDF and sewn up the birther anomalies. Without hearing the other side, without knowing arcane details about scanning and PDFs, the Cold Case Posse argument is very compelling. Hayes could have fallen for the Zullo misdirection hard, so hard that he’s thinking their results are obvious to anyone, and he can use his expert credentials beyond his expertise to jump to Zullo’s misdirected conclusion.

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater: What’s he going to opine on besides the signature? He’s a graphologist

  46. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 6, 2013 at 11:46 pm #

    He has a theory.

    Jim: I can tell you why those halos appear and why they are totally software generated by the viewing program. Can Zullo?

  47. avatar
    JPotter August 7, 2013 at 1:23 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Here we have the CEO of Data Doctors Computer Services & Data Forensics Labs saying in a news interview that he listened to the first Cold Case Posse press conference

    Well, I was attempting to link to comments re: CEO of Xerox that happened to be on an article that contained a video you were looking for. Happy to be of service!

    What struck me about that video, was, while the statement given was very bumbling and non-technical (had me yelling at the screen), it did highlight the incredible stupidity of the CCCP case (“A scan is a scan is a scan, all scans are the same, any scan structured differently than what grandma gets on her $49 Canon when she scans her cat pics into Microsoft PictureThis!™ must be FRAUD!“), and demonstrate that if anyone with a bit of objectivity lifts a finger to test the CCCP’s claims, it falls apart.

    The sweetest bit was the statement of obvious part: the CCCCP were likely testing on consumer grade setup in Mom’s basement, when in reality, legal documents are going to be scanned on office equipment. And scanned as a document (scanned as a Portable Document Format file) rather than as a photo (“single-layer” JPEGs like grandma gets). Y’know, on an “industrial scanner” …. like a Xerox.

    Yup.

    How sweet it would have been if Mr. Colburn had actually dropped an ‘X’ bomb in his comments LOL.

  48. avatar
    Curious George August 7, 2013 at 2:44 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I don’t see that as a problem. Poruchik Mikhail Zullov as a person can say whatever he wants. If he adds a donation link like this to the CCP web site, that would be a problem–but I don’t think Zullov is that arrogant.

    On July 8, 2013, in the WorldTribune.com they reported “Lt. Zullo” said, “I am working on this 24/7.” By his own words he is devoting 100% of his time to his claimed 100% forgery. His radio statements made soliciting funds and support for Congressman Stockman while giving updates about his 24/7 investigation still raises the question, was he speaking for himself or the CCP?

    “Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.”

  49. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 7, 2013 at 7:31 am #

    Hyperbole.

    Curious George: would be a problem–but I don’t think Zullov is that arrogant.

    On July 8, 2013, in the WorldTribune.com they reported “Lt. Zullo” said, “I am working on this 24/7.”

  50. avatar
    Curious George August 7, 2013 at 10:34 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Hyperbole.

    Check.

  51. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 7, 2013 at 12:27 pm #

    This article has been updated.

  52. avatar
    Curious George August 7, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    This article has been updated.

    The IRS shows them as Maracopa County Sheriff’s Cold Case Posse Inc. Yes someone misspelled Maricopa. The Arizona Corporation Commission shows The Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office Cold Case Posse Inc.

  53. avatar
    Loren August 7, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    He has a theory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPplDPm2m4Y

  54. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

    ORYR is reporting this story with their own particular spin on it. They say:

    Obama supporters and propagandists have since attempted to discredit the posse’s investigation and recently to entangle it in an IRS dragnet.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/update-p-contacts-rep-stockman-about.html

    I left this comment:

    I and some other anti-birthers have referred certain matters to the IRS that we feel are violations of the law. My own referral concerns possible misrepresentations by the Cold Case Posse that they were an affiliate of a governmental unit, when in fact the Sheriff’s Office provides no financial oversight of the Cold Case Posse. The Posse operates without financial accountability to the Sheriff’s Office, the State of Arizona, or to the IRS. They get tax-exempt status but are accountable to no one and that’s not right. Other Maricopa County Sheriff”s posses file the proper forms with the IRS.

    Also IRS regulations require that 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations provide a copy of their Form 1023 Application for Tax-Exempt Status to anyone who requests it. A certified letter to the Cold Case Posse was returned “unclaimed” after 15 days in their post office box.

  55. avatar
    JPotter August 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: an IRS dragnet.

    Dragnet?!?

    Someone’s been watching too much Nick at Night again!

  56. avatar
    Sudoku August 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    @JPotter

    Dragnet is perfect! We can tell the birthers “Just the facts, ma’am.”

  57. avatar
    CarlOrcas August 7, 2013 at 3:27 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I left this comment:

    They’re going crazy in Birtherstan!!

  58. avatar
    Majority Will August 7, 2013 at 3:44 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I left this comment . . .

    And some predictable replies.

    If only these lying, angry bigots could harness the energy from their hatred, they could power a small town for months.

    That little Falcon character must be compensating for a lack in size.

  59. avatar
    Majority Will August 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm #

    CarlOrcas: They’re going crazy in Birtherstan!!

    Poo will be flung.

  60. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm #

    Not to Falcon, but to another of his tribe at ORYR, I commented:

    Does your mama know you talk like that?

    Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    Majority Will: That little Falcon character must be compensating for a lack in size.

  61. avatar
    The Magic M August 8, 2013 at 3:46 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    You will find the occasional birther or run-of-the-mill RWNJ making similar statements on other websites, but indeed it seems prevalent on ORYR. Maybe it’s simply because other birther site owners are less tolerant of such language. Maybe it’s because a couple of the most vocal ORYR accounts are sock puppets. (E.g. I believe that “julio schwartz” and “Uncle Sam” and “Moochelle” are the same person, based mostly on their unique trait of loving to post in fake ebonics every now and then.)

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    The Magic M August 8, 2013 at 3:47 am #

    Majority Will: Poo will be flung.

    Maybe that’s what birthers mean when they always talk about “when sh.. hits the fan” – how ironic! 😉

  63. avatar
    aarrgghh August 8, 2013 at 8:16 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    polluting the comments section at the free republic observation post freeper madness is a dedicated troll (or trolls) that defaces each discussion with gratuitous insults of the scatological homophobic incest variety. given its (their) persistence, one wonders if the purpose is to drive away followers, get the site shut down or flagged as pornographic or browbeat the blog owner into abandoning it. it is a strange obsession over one tiny blog in the internet ocean.

    to his credit the owner has not banned it (them). the troll(s) does as much to discredit freepers as the featured articles do.

  64. avatar
    Jim August 8, 2013 at 8:32 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    Prison? Don’t drop the soap! 😀

  65. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 8, 2013 at 8:38 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    Me thinks they are projecting.

  66. avatar
    Northland10 August 8, 2013 at 9:18 am #

    aarrgghh: a dedicated troll (or trolls) that defaces each discussion with gratuitous insults of the scatological homophobic incest variety.

    When I first read this, I thought you said, “defecates each discussion.” Either way makes sense.

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    CarlOrcas August 8, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Those ORYR folks seem to be preoccupied with explicit homosexual imagery. I’ve never run across that kind of writing or speech anywhere else.

    They are as nasty as they are blind. A real unpleasant bunch.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 8, 2013 at 11:35 am #

    Northland10: When I first read this, I thought you said, “defecates each discussion.”Either way makes sense.

    Well birtherism and fecal matter are related.

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    aarrgghh August 8, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Well birtherism and fecal matter are related.

    bm = birfer movement

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 8, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    aarrgghh: bm = birfer movement

    The difference between the two, is that actual bm accomplishes something.

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    gorefan August 8, 2013 at 11:17 pm #

    This might get interesting:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3052501/posts#17

    To: Bubba Ho-Tep

    I just sent them [CCP] a request asking for an e-copy of their most recently filed 990. I will reward them with a donation assuming a positive response.

    21 posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:00:33 PM by bluetick (If you’re going to err, err on the side of liberty.)

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    donna August 8, 2013 at 11:40 pm #

    gorefan:

    thanks for the link

    i love the “To: Ray76” comment

    22 posted on Thu Aug 8 21:23:28 2013 by Rodamala

    (i would have used more colors)