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Birther announces military coup

This is not a drill!!! This is not a joke or parody!!! This is real bat guano crazy!

Bobby Powell, yes the same Bobby Powell who organized the million-man “Walk Like an Egyptian” march September 9 to oust President Obama, which no one including Powell attended, has erased that boondoggle from the public awareness by putting forward something even more bizarre, “military coup in progress in Washington D.C. 9/10/2013.”

photo of Bobby PowellI have received information originating from a well-known former General at the Pentagon; everybody knows this guy’s name. This information comes to me second hand, but I consider the go-between to be very reliable.

The information that I have received so far is that five of the US Military’s highest-ranking Generals have met with Barack Obama and warned him that if he orders an attack on Syria he will be arrested and charged with Treason for attempting to provide aid and comfort to our enemies, namely the al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra Front in Syria.

The generals reportedly punctuated that statement with a promise that if he is convicted of Treason, Barack Obama will find himself swinging at the end of a rope at Leavenworth.

This is so over top that I could just let it stand without comment, but I will, however, point out a couple of things for educational purposes.

First, the piece is an appeal to anonymous authority, which is worthless. We don’t know who this “well-known former general” is supposed to be, nor who the reliable go-between is. The “five generals” are also nameless. The meeting doesn’t have a date.

I find the piece insulting to the US Military, who are loyal to the Constitution and have a noble tradition of staying out of domestic politics. While Powell and his right-wing nut job cronies may want to turn the United States into Egypt, I see no such sentiment in our military leadership. The President of the United States can be impeached by the Congress and removed from office, but not tried for a crime while in office. The US Military does not arrest Presidents.

Photo of Anton LeVeyThe hate-filled Powell is a blight on the American landscape. A few Nut job blogs are picking it up—Godlike Productions, PP Simmons and Oppressed Sons.

OK, tell me. Do you think that Powell is going for an Anton LaVey look?

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177 Responses to Birther announces military coup

  1. avatar
    Benji Franklin September 11, 2013 at 2:13 am #

    Perhaps because September 9th’s Billion Birther March on Washington DC turned out to be, as all Birther Activities do, a pipe dream fading to an utterly contradicting reality, some Birthers are manufacturing a different imaginary triumph in its place.

    Take a deep Birther breath, Dorothy; apparently, Kansas doesn’t even exist anymore.

    Carl Gallups’ PPSimmons (a so-called “news” source) ignoring the most basic tenet of journalism, verifying a sensational story before you publish it, has now published the following excerpted story:

    REPORT: MILITARY COUP IN PROGRESS IN WASHINGTON D.C.
    Via TTIV
    … information from a well-known former General at the Pentagon…
    … five of the US Military’s highest-ranking Generals have met with Barack Obama and warned him that if he orders an attack on Syria he will be arrested and charged with Treason …..
    … with a promise that if he is convicted of Treason, Barack Obama will find himself swinging at the end of a rope at Leavenworth.

    Nice try, Birthers! Oh sure, he’s going to be hung in DC at high noon, and then, we’ll all go down to the IHOP and their chef will reverse all of the court cases that have sided with Obama, and then their busboys will authoritatively interpret the United States Constitution.

  2. avatar
    The Magic M September 11, 2013 at 5:04 am #

    Benji Franklin: … five of the US Military’s highest-ranking Generals have met with Barack Obama and warned him that if he orders an attack on Syria he will be arrested and charged with Treason …..

    If one ever needed a perfect example for the “absence of evidence is evidence of absence” fallacy, this would be it.

    Via reduction ad absurdum: the fact that Obama hasn’t yet ordered an all-out war against Jupiter proves there was a stealth military coup because the military has told Obama if he attacked Jupiter or used his time machine, he would be ousted. He wasn’t ousted, so he complied, so the secret coup actually took place, q.e.d.

  3. avatar
    jdkinpa September 11, 2013 at 5:17 am #

    REPORT: MILITARY COUP IN PROGRESS IN WASHINGTON D.C.
    Via TTIV

    I spent about a half-hour of my life, which I will never ever get back or do again, listening to the ‘latest’ sure thing that is going to bring the usurper to justice. Apparently someone has it on solid grounds that former general Wesley Clark is the source of the ‘Generals rebellion’. It was all rather confusing and it seems that no one knows just which generals are involved and when they are going to bring the hammer down, but ANY DAY NOW.

    I don’t know if anyone was aware that one sure way to tell that Obama is a Muslim is that he never has Bo the dog ride with him on Air Force One. Apparently a good Muslim will never allow himself to be in a confined space with and unclean animal. That’s why Bo has his own transportation to the family vacations, etc. A quick google search gave me this.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/bo-waits-steps-air-force-11326138

    Bo Obama boards Air Force One for birthday trip to Chicago with President Obama.
    08/04/2010

    I suppose in birfer world that riding in ‘The Beast’ with the President doesn’t count as being in a confined space.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/20/inside-the-beast-pee-president-limousine-video/

  4. avatar
    Arthur September 11, 2013 at 8:40 am #

    jdkinpa: REPORT: MILITARY COUP IN PROGRESS IN WASHINGTON D.C.
    Via TTIV

    TTIV (The Truth Is Viral) is a blog by Bobby Powell–that’s the same Bobby Powell who was cheer-leading that very successful 9/10 march on Washington, you know, the one where millions of birthers arrived in Washington to take back the government?

    In fact, the same day of that epic fail, Powell completely ignored the “march” (which he didn’t attend) and came up with this coup b.s. to keep the donations to this pathetic grift site alive and clicking.

  5. avatar
    misha marinsky September 11, 2013 at 9:03 am #

    jdkinpa: REPORT: MILITARY COUP IN PROGRESS IN WASHINGTON D.C.

    I went to PPSimmons site, and left this comment:

    I have talked to my contact in the Mossad, and it’s true. The plan is to take the usurper to Tel Aviv, and have the trial in secret. After the trial, he’ll be given refuge in Saudi Arabia, which gave refuge to Idi Amin cause he too was a Moslem.

    I can’t say anything more cause I’ll reveal my contact. I can give my initials so you’ll know this is true.

    mm

  6. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 11, 2013 at 9:23 am #

    misha marinsky: I went to PPSimmons site, and left this comment:

    I have talked to my contact in the Mossad, and it’s true. The plan is to take the usurper to Tel Aviv, and have the trial in secret. After the trial, he’ll be given refuge in Saudi Arabia, which gave refuge to Idi Amin cause he too was a Moslem.

    I can’t say anything more cause I’ll reveal my contact. I can give my initials so you’ll know this is true.

    mm

    Oh you so naughty! 🙂

  7. avatar
    misha marinsky September 11, 2013 at 9:31 am #

    I went back to PPSimmons, and added this:

    I just talked with my contact in Hebrew and Yiddish, and confirmed it. Fasten your seat belts.

  8. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 11, 2013 at 9:45 am #

    misha marinsky: I went to PPSimmons site, and left this comment:I have talked to my contact in the Mossad, and it’s true. The plan is to take the usurper to Tel Aviv, and have the trial in secret. After the trial, he’ll be given refuge in Saudi Arabia, which gave refuge to Idi Amin cause he too was a Moslem.I can’t say anything more cause I’ll reveal my contact. I can give my initials so you’ll know this is true.mm

    Quick which Uconn professor has the initials of MM?
    http://www.stamford.uconn.edu/faculty.htm

    OMG You’re professor of English Michael Marroto. Wow I learned how to research like tracy fair.

    Somebody inform peepee simmons!

  9. avatar
    Publius September 11, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    I think that photo could well symbolize the two main birther arguments: The “Obama’s birth certificate is a fake” argument, and the “he’s not a natural born citizen anyway” argument.

  10. avatar
    Majority Will September 11, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    The hate-filled PP Simmons is also a blight on the American landscape.

  11. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 11, 2013 at 9:56 am #

    Looks more like he’s trying to pull off a poor man’s Ming the Merciless.

  12. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 11, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    misha marinsky:
    I went back to PPSimmons, and added this:

    I just talked with my contact in Hebrew and Yiddish, and confirmed it. Fasten your seat belts.

    A winner is you!

  13. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 11, 2013 at 10:00 am #

    You know at times I feel like creating an identity, putting up a free wordpress site and then making up crazy stories and spreading them in the fringe just to see which ones get traction. No fact checking is ever done in the fringe and they’ll believe anything. For a while I thought about doing it to birthers but look how the foreign student hoax has become apart of birther belief.

  14. avatar
    misha marinsky September 11, 2013 at 10:01 am #

    “Do you think that Powell is going for an Anton LeVey look?”

    True story: LeVey was Jewish – “LaVey was born as Howard Stanton Levey in Chicago, Illinois.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey

  15. avatar
    misha marinsky September 11, 2013 at 10:04 am #

    “We don’t know who this “well-known former general” is supposed to be, nor who the reliable go-between is. The “five generals” are also nameless.”

    I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you.

  16. avatar
    Thomas Brown September 11, 2013 at 10:28 am #

    Powell also bears a striking resemblance to Aleister Crowley, speaking of black magic nutjobs.

  17. avatar
    Pastor Charmley September 11, 2013 at 10:30 am #

    What planet does this fellow live on? Apparently not the one I do. It also boggles the mind that someone could be suggesting as apparently a good idea that the military should remove the President of the USA. I suppose that the fellow has jumped from “President is the Commander in Chief” to “President is a military official”, which are of course not synonymous ideas, and therefore arrived at the conclusion that the military has the ability to remove the POTUS.

    Or maybe he thinks he’s in Turkey, where the military explicitly has the responsibility to remove the President and dissolve the government if they compromise the secular nature of the state of Turkey.

  18. avatar
    Woodrowfan September 11, 2013 at 10:30 am #

    on the plus side, you just made John very happy.

  19. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 11, 2013 at 10:44 am #

    He forgot the Just for Men Beard when he did the video.

    What a pathetic creature.

  20. avatar
    MattR September 11, 2013 at 11:08 am #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater: You know at times I feel like creating an identity, putting up a free wordpress site and then making up crazy stories and spreading them in the fringe just to see which ones get traction. No fact checking is ever done in the fringe and they’ll believe anything.

    It’s not just the fringe. The mainstream media is quite capable of spreading stories without doing any research into their accuracy

  21. avatar
    RanTalbott September 11, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    Actually, Doc, he looks a little like you, with a dye job.

    Have you secretly gone bibirtheral on us?

  22. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 11, 2013 at 11:44 am #

    MattR: It’s not just the fringe.The mainstream media is quite capable of spreading stories without doing any research into their accuracy

    I’m not sure a story about twerking ranks up there with a military coup.

  23. avatar
    Daniel September 11, 2013 at 11:59 am #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater:
    You know at times I feel like creating an identity, putting up a free wordpress site and then making up crazy stories and spreading them in the fringe just to see which ones get traction.No fact checking is ever done in the fringe and they’ll believe anything.For a while I thought about doing it to birthers but look how the foreign student hoax has become apart of birther belief.

    Someone beat you to it.

    beforeitsnews.com

  24. avatar
    Daniel September 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm #

    Thomas Brown:
    Powell also bears a striking resemblance to Aleister Crowley, speaking of black magic nutjobs.

    We Witches affectionately refer to Aleister Crowley as “Uncle Al”. Nice guy. Did some good research. Loved to get the fundies riled up. Crazier than a march hare, and you wouldn’t want to leave him alone with your younger sister.

    P.S. He really had nothing to do with “black magic” as the term is meaningless within O.T.O for all intents and purposes

  25. avatar
    MattR September 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’m not sure a story about twerking ranks up there with a military coup.

    True. But it seems unfair to single out fringe groups for their lack of fact checking when organizations whose sole purpose is the dissemination of “the news” puts things on the air, even fluff pieces, without properly fact checking them.

    If you read that piece as if it was on the Onion and not written by a birther, it is actually pretty good satire on the way the news media uses anonymous sources.

  26. avatar
    Daniel September 11, 2013 at 12:12 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’m not sure a story about twerking ranks up there with a military coup.

    In this particular case they bear a striking resemblance

  27. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 11, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

    MattR: True.But it seems unfair to single out fringe groups for their lack of fact checking when organizations whose sole purpose is the dissemination of “the news” puts things on the air, even fluff pieces, without properly fact checking them.

    If you read that piece as if it was on the Onion and not written by a birther, it is actually pretty good satire on the way the news media uses anonymous sources.

    Well…..fact checking is good, no doubt about but I am less concerned about a stupid twerking story than I am about the malicious nonsense proffered by birthers on a continuing basis.

  28. avatar
    1% Silver Nitrate September 11, 2013 at 12:46 pm #

    In a reply to a commenter at 7:59 this morning, Powell added a few more details:

    “There’s this guy Drake that I outed last year, always has big promises but never delivers. I felt this report was different for two reasons. One, I trust Kathy. Two, this one was different because the source can be traced back to General Clark and not some nameless ‘White Hat.'”

    OK, anybody have a clue about who “Kathy” is? And presumably he means Gen Wesley Clark, former NATO commander & Democratic presidential candidate.

    Who would like to plunge into this steaming pile & come up with some answers?

  29. avatar
    jayHG September 11, 2013 at 1:03 pm #

    Free republic is not on this….gathering the “freepers” to join in and remove President Obama from THEIR white house. I swear those folks have no idea that the word “white” in White House refers only to the color of the place.

  30. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 11, 2013 at 1:19 pm #

    On second thought, maybe that wasn’t the LaVey look that Powell was going for:

  31. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 11, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

    ORYR has published the story.

  32. avatar
    justlw September 11, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    Well, this definitively explains why no one went to DC for any of the rallies — no point! The frogs, they are lined up and ready to march!

    Like others, I figured the biker rally would be the most successful, especially if it was a nice day for a ride. But “successful” is relative, of course. From the footage linked to on Fogbow, I’m estimating, what, about 300 or so?

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Two-Million-Bikers-Rally-9-11_Washington-DC-223308931.html

  33. avatar
    sfjeff September 11, 2013 at 1:46 pm #

    Well not a surprise- Birthers have been aching for a military coup against Obama pretty much from day 1.

    the concept that of a military coup to save America from an ursurper is just so bizarre that only a Birther could conceive of it.

    Just proof once again that Birthers would prefer Civil War and the complete destruction of the Constitution to having that black man as President.

  34. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 11, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    ORYR has published the story.

    Yes indeed! And the propellers on their beanies are approaching supersonic speeds.

  35. avatar
    3Fiddy5 September 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    “Looks more like he’s trying to pull off a poor man’s Ming the Merciless.”

    Anton Levay

  36. avatar
    misha marinsky September 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: On second thought, maybe that wasn’t the LeVey look that Powell was going for:

    bada-bing

  37. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 11, 2013 at 2:30 pm #

    My apologies for the misspelling. It’s “LaVey.”

  38. avatar
    Keith September 11, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

    Daniel: P.S. He really had nothing to do with “black magic” as the term is meaningless within O.T.O for all intents and purposes

    Crowley also didn’t have an ego, His auto-hagiography was ghost-written.

    By him.

    (I actually got half way through it.)

  39. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    On second thought, maybe that wasn’t the LeVey look that Powell was going for:

    Still going with Ming the Merciless.

  40. avatar
    Foggy September 11, 2013 at 3:10 pm #

    I’m surprised that Kevin DuJan didn’t pick this one up and run with it.

  41. avatar
    Thomas Brown September 11, 2013 at 3:31 pm #

    Daniel: We Witches affectionately refer to Aleister Crowley as “Uncle Al”. Nice guy. Did some good research. Loved to get the fundies riled up. Crazier than a march hare, and you wouldn’t want to leave him alone with your younger sister.

    P.S. He really had nothing to do with “black magic” as the term is meaningless within O.T.O for all intents and purposes

    To clarify: The powers that Crowley claimed to have could only be described as “black magic,” AFAIK. But it’s certainly true that “black magic” or “magic” in general is not in any way equivalent to “worshipping the Devil.” A distinction lost on the Christian Right.

  42. avatar
    Sef September 11, 2013 at 4:19 pm #

    misha marinsky:
    “Do you think that Powell is going for an Anton LeVey look?”

    True story: LeVey was Jewish – “LaVey was born as Howard Stanton Levey in Chicago, Illinois.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey

    Want to hear a fun fact: LaVey’s wife’s occupation is listed in Wikipedia as “graphology”. Maybe she could do an analysis of the LFBC PDF. And write a 41 page report.

  43. avatar
    James M September 11, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

    President Obama’s military commands are carried out as orders, period.
    Obviously any General may hang his career on the hook if he wants to challenge an order, but the order will still be carried out, just not by the soon-to-be-former General. There isn’t anyone at that level of military command who would disobey a direct order from the President. People with that potential leave military service long before reaching that plateau.

  44. avatar
    Curious George September 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm #

    And you thought birther madness couldn’t reach news lows? If this is being reported on PPSimmons you know that it’s just as real as the sham birther investigation.

  45. avatar
    jayHG September 11, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

    justlw:
    Well, this definitively explains why no one went to DC for any of the rallies — no point!The frogs, they are lined up and ready to march!

    Like others, I figured the biker rally would be the most successful, especially if it was a nice day for a ride.But “successful” is relative, of course.From the footage linked to on Fogbow, I’m estimating, what, about 300 or so?

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Two-Million-Bikers-Rally-9-11_Washington-DC-223308931.html

    Over at free republic, they say there are 2 million bikers and they are getting all choked at those patriots coming after O and crowing all over the place. No one is asking for pix or videos or anything. Just taking the headline as is.

  46. avatar
    justlw September 11, 2013 at 6:20 pm #

    jayHG: Over at free republic, they say there are 2 million bikers

    According to recent NHTSA figures, there are about 7 million registered motorcycles in the US.

  47. avatar
    Sef September 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm #

    justlw: According to recent NHTSA figures, there are about 7 million registered motorcycles in the US.

    Constitutional Patriots don’t need no registration.

  48. avatar
    jdkinpa September 11, 2013 at 6:45 pm #

    Over at free republic, they say there are 2 million bikers

    Not even close to the 2 million mark, but enough to make a lot of noise and gridlock.

    Although they didn’t reach a goal of two million riders, thousands of bikers rolled through the Washington, D.C. Wednesday to mark the 12th anniversary of 9/11.

    USA… USA… USA…

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Two-Million-Bikers-Roar-Into-DC-for-911-223271211.html

  49. avatar
    Punchmaster via mobile September 11, 2013 at 8:33 pm #

    Really doubting the ride was about honoring the victims of 9/11. Im no geography major, but D.C. aint where the towers fell.

  50. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 11, 2013 at 9:05 pm #

    It’s where the third plane plowed into the Pentagon.

    Punchmaster via mobile: Really doubting the ride was about honoring the victims of 9/11. Im no geography major, but D.C. aint where the towers fell.

  51. avatar
    Rickey September 11, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

    jdkinpa:
    Over at free republic, they say there are 2 million bikers

    Not even close to the 2 million mark, but enough to make a lot of noise and gridlock.

    Although they didn’t reach a goal of two million riders, thousands of bikers rolled through the Washington, D.C. Wednesday to mark the 12th anniversary of 9/11.

    USA… USA… USA…

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Two-Million-Bikers-Roar-Into-DC-for-911-223271211.html

    US News & World Report says that there were “hundreds” of bikers and a “few dozen” Muslims rallying in D.C. today.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/09/11/2-million-bikers-christian-activists-confront-911-gathering-formerly-called-the-million-muslim-march

  52. avatar
    Punchmaster via mobile September 11, 2013 at 9:30 pm #

    True.

  53. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 12:26 am #

    misha marinsky: I went to PPSimmons site, and left this comment:

    http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/09/report-military-coup-in-progress-in.html?showComment=1378904126651#c1374520067896153666

    I got a reply!! I don’t think Gallups got the joke.

  54. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 12:58 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    It’s where the third plane plowed into the Pentagon.

    And, of course, United 93 was headed for Washington when it crashed in Pennsylvania.

  55. avatar
    The Magic M September 12, 2013 at 4:50 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: It’s where the third plane plowed into the Pentagon.

    Still an unusual place when NYC is the obvious choice (which is where most people died, where most civilians died etc.).

    CarlOrcas: And, of course, United 93 was headed for Washington when it crashed in Pennsylvania.

    After watching “Now You See Me” the other day, I wonder why there’s so few conspiracy theories placing this flight in the centre.

  56. avatar
    clestes September 12, 2013 at 10:12 am #

    This has got to be the damn stupidest story yet from a bunch of stupid people.

    I guess they forgot he is their Commander-in-Chief??

    Can you imagine Mr. Obama listening much less backing down to them?? Hell this is the man that ran OBL to ground and then had him killed! This man ordered the death of the Somalia pirates that DARED to take hostage a captain of a US merchant freighter.

    Just last weekend he looked Putin, no light weight when it comes to power himself, dead in the eye and told him that Syria had to give up their chemical weapons industry, destroy stockpiles and subject themselves to UN inspection, just to prevent a US airstrike.

    Putin backed down. You know why? Because you DO NOT F*CK with this president. He is capable of great compassion and caring, but also a hard as nails leader who has no problem ordering the death of a bad guy.

    These birthers are simply getting more and more out there and more and more irrelevant. But definitely funny!

  57. avatar
    Lupin September 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    clestes: These birthers are simply getting more and more out there and more and more irrelevant. But definitely funny!

    I don’t know. The same lunatics who run your Congress are talking again about not raising the debt ceiling and letting the US default, which is at the same time just as crazy and yet incrementally much worse than the birthers’ demented plans, and yet no one is laughing.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/house-republican-anarchy-update.html

  58. avatar
    Benji Franklin September 12, 2013 at 12:36 pm #

    More from Poppy Bowel (the inside Dope):

    I have received more information this time, originating from another well-known former General at the Pentagon; everybody knows this guy’s name. (George S. Patton) This information comes to me second hand, (because I made it up) but I consider the go-between (an odiferous angel passing partially digested but semi-solid messages from my barber to his dog) to be very reliable
    .
    The information that I have received (with my tin helmet) so far is that five thousand of the US Military’s highest-ranking Generals have met with Barack Obama (in his compact car) and warned him that if he does his best in office and continues to break no laws, he will be arrested and charged with Treason.

    The generals reportedly punctuated that statement with a promise that if he is still making me angry, he will find himself swinging at the end of a rope at Leavenworth and more importantly, first he will have to come and stay at my house for a few weeks and see how long he can stand to be treated the way my family treats me since he usurped and all, and not only that, but the Generals also said in no uncertain terms that I, Poppy Bowel, am right about the Constitution and everything like that.

    Which reminds me, I just applied for a copyright for the text of the Constitution and, fair warning, I’d better not see ANYBODY printing it before my book comes out.

  59. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm #

    clestes:
    This has got to be the damn stupidest story yet from a bunch of stupid people.

    I guess they forgot he is their Commander-in-Chief??

    Can you imagine Mr. Obama listening much less backing down to them?? Hell this is the man that ran OBL to ground and then had him killed! This man ordered the death of the Somalia pirates that DARED to take hostage a captain of a US merchant freighter.

    Just last weekend he looked Putin, no light weight when it comes to power himself, dead in the eye and told him that Syria had to give up their chemical weapons industry, destroy stockpiles and subject themselves to UN inspection, just to prevent a US airstrike.

    Putin backed down. You know why? Because you DO NOT F*CK with this president. He is capable of great compassion and caring, but also a hard as nails leader who has no problem ordering the death of a bad guy.

    These birthers are simply getting more and more out there and more and more irrelevant. But definitely funny!

    Very well put. And US presidents have a long history of canning defiant or insubordinate generals during peace or war…Lincoln and McClellan, Truman and MacArthur, and Kennedy and Walker.

    This jerk obviously read “Seven Days in May.” Guess he missed the ending or forgot how it came out.

    And I think this jerk looks like “Ming the Merciless” of Mongo.l

  60. avatar
    Crustacean September 12, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    Hi Misha,

    Do you mean the comment that begins, “I have even more shocking information”? Because that comment reads like it’s as much of a prank as yours.

    Mysterious case containing a VHS tape in the Smithsonian? Jay-Z sending secret messages in his album? You had to have written that one, too, no? Please tell me there’s not really someone out there who would seriously write that stuff.

    misha marinsky: I got a reply!! I don’t think Gallups got the joke.

  61. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 3:14 pm #

    Crustacean: You had to have written that one, too, no?

    No. Someone else picked up on it, and ran with it. Great minds think alike.

    Gallups moderates all comments. I’m surprised he published these two. He’s either blinded by his hatred, stupid, or both.

  62. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 3:20 pm #

    misha marinsky: No. Someone else picked up on it, and ran with it. Great minds think alike.

    Gallups moderates all comments. I’m surprised he published these two. He’s either blinded by his hatred, stupid, or both.

    Correct answer: Both.

  63. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 3:24 pm #

    Crustacean: Jay-Z sending secret messages in his album?

    If you play his songs backwards, you’ll hear the secret messages. Penn and Teller showed me how to do it.

  64. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 3:29 pm #

    Lupin: The same lunatics who run your Congress are talking again about not raising the debt ceiling and letting the US default

    My open letter to Eric Cantor:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-eric-cantor.html

  65. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

    clestes: Putin, no light weight

    КГБ

  66. avatar
    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral) September 12, 2013 at 3:51 pm #

    There’s a very good reason why I called off my participation in any march on Washington D.C. a full month before the 9th. My wife is dying and asked me not to go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYCUh-XxRa0

    It’s a good thing I didn’t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W6pyRrLdU

    So you can make all of the assumptions about me that you like, mostly ad hominem attacks as usual.It’s obvious you know next to nothing and are unwilling to hear the truth. I’m surprised there were no death threats, there are usually a few of those laying around left by erstwhile kumbaya-singing Liberals. I really don’t care.

    The Ming the Merciless comment did make me LOL tho.

  67. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 12, 2013 at 5:10 pm #

    Thanks for commenting.

    I don’t think that anyone listening to the video on the front page of your web site could escape the conclusion that you were “hate filled.” You were dripping with hate when you talked about the President. It made my skin crawl.

    I guess it’s like 9/11. Everybody remembers where they where when they heard about the plane hitting the World Trade Center, and every birther remembers their excuse for not being in Washington DC on 9/9/2013. I’m not saying that they weren’t good excuses, just that hardly anybody showed up.

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): So you can make all of the assumptions about me that you like, mostly ad hominem attacks as usual.

  68. avatar
    Majority Will September 12, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    “mostly ad hominem attacks as usual”

    The truth can be painful.

  69. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 12, 2013 at 5:21 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    There’s a very good reason why I called off my participation in any march on Washington D.C. a full month before the 9th. My wife is dying and asked me not to go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYCUh-XxRa0

    It’s a good thing I didn’t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W6pyRrLdU

    So you can make all of the assumptions about me that you like, mostly ad hominem attacks as usual.It’s obvious you know next to nothing and are unwilling to hear the truth. I’m surprised there were no death threats, there are usually a few of those laying around left by erstwhile kumbaya-singing Liberals. I really don’t care.

    The Ming the Merciless comment did make me LOL tho.

    Wow, a dying wife, yet you still find time to be a hate-filled little asshole on the internet.

  70. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    There’s a very good reason why I called off my participation in any march on Washington D.C. a full month before the 9th. My wife is dying and asked me not to go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYCUh-XxRa0

    It’s a good thing I didn’t: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W6pyRrLdU

    So you can make all of the assumptions about me that you like, mostly ad hominem attacks as usual.It’s obvious you know next to nothing and are unwilling to hear the truth. I’m surprised there were no death threats, there are usually a few of those laying around left by erstwhile kumbaya-singing Liberals. I really don’t care.

    The Ming the Merciless comment did make me LOL tho.

    Bobby, for what it;s worth, you would probably consider me an “erstwhile kumbaya-singing Liberal,” but I have zero tolerance for death threats against ANYONE.

    And I am saddened to hear that your wife is dying. You have my sympathies and my prayers.

    However, I AM holding you accountable for that nonsense about a military coup against President Obama. That is utter rubbish, and you know it.

  71. avatar
    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral) September 12, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig. The head of the ACLU’s Targeted Assassinations team, Nate Wessler, agreed with me when he called Obama “Judge, Jury, and Executioner” on my show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCk5kQtJWLE

    The ACLU said that.

    For those human beings who aren’t child-murdering pigs, Christians, Jews, Muslims, even Atheists, I have nothing but love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIeZzIx2WE

    Why don’t you folks stop worshiping Obama? He’s only going to lead you into captivity and destruction. Go back over my show and find out who I am instead of making snap judgments based on one video, or a blog post from someone who obviously isn’t paying attention.

    If you actually take me up on that challenge, I imagine that more than one of you will join me as I continue on my mission to save lives and win souls for Jesus Christ in these last days. When you do, remind me that you subscribed because of this comment.

    God bless,
    Bobby

  72. avatar
    jayHG September 12, 2013 at 7:12 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig. The head of the ACLU’s Targeted Assassinations team, Nate Wessler, agreed with me when he called Obama “Judge, Jury, and Executioner” on my show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCk5kQtJWLE

    The ACLU said that.

    For those human beings who aren’t child-murdering pigs, Christians, Jews, Muslims, even Atheists, I have nothing but love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIeZzIx2WE

    Why don’t you folks stop worshiping Obama? He’s only going to lead you into captivity and destruction. Go back over my show and find out who I am instead of making snap judgments based on one video, or a blog post from someone who obviously isn’t paying attention.

    If you actually take me up on that challenge, I imagine that more than one of you will join me as I continue on my mission to save lives and win souls for Jesus Christ in these last days. When you do, remind me that you subscribed because of this comment.

    God bless,
    Bobby

    What about the military coup….you’re still going to be held to account for that completely stupib bs….I wish you’d had a chance to go…you’d be writing this little rant of yours from jail.

  73. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 12, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    The purpose of the this web site is not to support Obama. Many of us don’t support Obama. The purpose of this web site is to examine birthers and their conspiracy theories.

    Legitimate criticism or praise of the President is for somewhere else.

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): Why don’t you folks stop worshiping Obama? He’s only going to lead you into captivity and destruction. Go back over my show and find out who I am instead of making snap judgments based on one video, or a blog post from someone who obviously isn’t paying attention.

  74. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 12, 2013 at 7:21 pm #

    Bobby, You seem to be confused about the difference between anti-birthers and Obots.
    All Obots are anti-birthers, but not all anti-birthers are Obots.
    But being perpetually confused is something birthers do better than anyone else.
    I’m not an Obama supporter, I was when I voted for him in ’08, but wasn’t pleased with the underwhelming job he did, so I voted for a third party candidate in ’12. That said I have respect for the office of the President of the United States. I really didn’t like Bush’s tenure, but I never once ran around trying to defame him, cry for impeachment, imprisonment, execution, or anything else birthers have wet dreams about doing to Obama.
    I wanted Bush out of office, so I did what a sensible person did in ’04. I voted for someone else! When that didn’t get the job done, I hunkered down and waited for Bush’s 2nd term to be over. Why can’t people like you do that? Just wait it out.

  75. avatar
    Daniel September 12, 2013 at 7:56 pm #

    ” ACLU attorney in charge of Targeted Assassinations”

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Bobby…. seek professional help…. please… If not for yourself, then think of the children!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!@!!!!

  76. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 12, 2013 at 7:58 pm #

    Come to think of it, the phrase “Targeted Assassinations” is redundant.
    The preceding phrase was brought to you by Captain Obvious, for the sake of Bobby, who needs such things spelled to for him.

  77. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig.

    [Comment redacted. Doc]

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):The head of the ACLU’s Targeted Assassinations team, Nate Wessler, agreed with me when he called Obama “Judge, Jury, and Executioner” on my show:

    [Comment redacted. Doc]

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):For those human beings who aren’t child-murdering pigs, Christians, Jews

    I’m Jewish. You are getting perilously close to the blood libel. I will say this about you: You are a closet anti-Semite.

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):Why don’t you folks stop worshiping Obama? He’s only going to lead you into captivity and destruction.

    Bush, thankfully, is no longer president. Why don’t you let go?

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I continue on my mission to save lives and win souls for Jesus Christ in these last days.

    More mythology and fairy tales. It’s allegory, and you’re taking it literally true. A gallon of coffee or mushrooms?

  78. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:20 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):There’s a very good reason why I called off my participation in any march on Washington D.C…

    So you can make all of the assumptions about me that you like

    It’s not an assumption: You have more BS per unit/time than Corsi or Farah.

  79. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:25 pm #

    jayHG: What about the military coup….you’re still going to be held to account for that completely stupib bs

    You will notice Powell is not concerned about the inordinate amount of time Farah and Corsi spend together, nor their nighttime visits to rural barns.

  80. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 8:26 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig.

    How is Obama different than every President who has been in office during a period of combat?

    How many children were killed by the U.S. during World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Irag, Afghanistan…and on and on?

  81. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:27 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: However, I AM holding you accountable for that nonsense about a military coup against President Obama. That is utter rubbish, and you know it.

    LSD

  82. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:30 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I’m surprised there were no death threats

    I’m not threatening: Crawl back under your rock. That’s not a threat; that’s the truth.

  83. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:34 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig.

    No, that’s William Calley and his platoon. Also, the napalm attack on Trang Bang:

    http://frogstorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Trang-Bang.jpg

  84. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:35 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Come to think of it, the phrase “Targeted Assassinations” is redundant.

    Powell belongs to the Department of Redundancy Dept.

  85. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:37 pm #

    CarlOrcas: How many children were killed by the U.S. during World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Irag, Afghanistan…and on and on?

    How many children in Iraq were collateral damage? Bush unleashed that, so Cheney’s cronies could get their paws on oil.

  86. avatar
    Publius September 12, 2013 at 8:38 pm #

    misha marinsky: It’s not an assumption: You have more BS per unit/time than Corsi or Farah.

    You’re treading on thin ice, right there.

    I’d say that even with a fake coup announcement, Bobby has a LONG way to go before he’s earned his chops enough to even be in the same room with a Master Crapweasel like Corsi, let alone sitting at the head table. 🙂

  87. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:39 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Wow, a dying wife, yet you still find time to be a hate-filled little @sshole on the internet.

    Amazing, no?

  88. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: However, I AM holding you accountable for that nonsense about a military coup against President Obama.

    Certifiable mental illness is a valid defense.

  89. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 9:00 pm #

    misha marinsky: How many children in Iraq were collateral damage? Bush unleashed that, so Cheney’s cronies could get their paws on oil.

    misha marinsky: How many children in Iraq were collateral damage? Bush unleashed that, so Cheney’s cronies could get their paws on oil.

    “Collateral damage”. What an offensive term.

    Why can’t we face the fact that when we go to war that we are going to kill innocent people?

    Tens of thousands of civilians died in the attacks on Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the final days of World War II. How many of them were children?

    Think about that one for a few minutes and tears will come to your eyes.

  90. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 12, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

    misha marinsky: Certifiable mental illness is a valid defense.

    Yeah, but I’d still like to see the trial.

  91. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 12, 2013 at 9:23 pm #

    misha marinsky: Certifiable mental illness is a valid defense.

    Yeah, but I’d still like to see the trial.

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    If my voice drips with contempt for Obama, there’s a good reason for that, several actually, the most important being that he is a child-murdering pig. The head of the ACLU’s Targeted Assassinations team, Nate Wessler, agreed with me when he called Obama “Judge, Jury, and Executioner” on my show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCk5kQtJWLE

    The ACLU said that.

    For those human beings who aren’t child-murdering pigs, Christians, Jews, Muslims, even Atheists, I have nothing but love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIeZzIx2WE

    Why don’t you folks stop worshiping Obama? He’s only going to lead you into captivity and destruction. Go back over my show and find out who I am instead of making snap judgments based on one video, or a blog post from someone who obviously isn’t paying attention.

    If you actually take me up on that challenge, I imagine that more than one of you will join me as I continue on my mission to save lives and win souls for Jesus Christ in these last days. When you do, remind me that you subscribed because of this comment.

    God bless,
    Bobby

    Let’s see…so much insanity, where to start..

    The ACLU has a ‘targeted assassination’ plan? Why haven’t you contacted the police instead of hosting the assassin in your show. Isn’t that aiding and abetting a felony? Not only is that a crime, that’s a mortal sin, and I think Jesus would send you to hell for doing that.

    Child murdering…I think you must really love reading those old copies of “Der Sturmer,” don’t you. What do you think of Streicher’s fascination with pornography?

    You’re trying to save lives and win souls for Jesus by threatening violent sedition and revolution? Where did Jesus talk of violent revolution? Didn’t he die for our sins?

  92. avatar
    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral) September 12, 2013 at 9:31 pm #

    You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

  93. avatar
    G September 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm #

    Agreed. It is selective claims of fauxrage by folks like him over things like this that make his motives suspect. He’s just covering for what really “bothers” him about this specific president over others…

    CarlOrcas: How is Obama different than every President who has been in office during a period of combat?

    How many children were killed by the U.S. during World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Irag, Afghanistan…and on and on?

    Yeah, I love how these faux-Christians always wrap themselves in the cover of religion to excuse their ugly hate-based nature. What they call for and what the lessons of their “faith” are supposed to be about are opposites. Shame on him.

    If his wife truly is in ill health, then I am of course sympathetic to that situation. But that doesn’t excuse the extreme moral wrongness of what he’s calling for.

    Kiwiwriter: You’re trying to save lives and win souls for Jesus by threatening violent sedition and revolution? Where did Jesus talk of violent revolution? Didn’t he die for our sins?

  94. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 12, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    What would Jesus say about your little quote there…a speaker for Christ descending into the gutter to insult others about competitive masturbation. Do you think the Pope would talk that way? Bishop Fulton Sheen? Billy Graham? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? Well, Jimmy Swaggart and Jimmy Bakker might, but they both apologized, in tears, for that behavior.

    You are a shame unto the Lord and a disgrace to Christianity!

  95. avatar
    Arthur September 12, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    A birther who, in addition to being a deluded liar and a penny ante grifter, also delights in closeted homosexual fantasies–Bobby, you’ve got it all.

  96. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    Projection, dear boy.

  97. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 9:44 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): You people are just sick.

    Military coup: Ring a bell?

  98. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 9:45 pm #

    Arthur: Bobby, you’ve got it all.

    The full Monty.

  99. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 9:46 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    Speaking of cyber onanism……how is the military coup going two days on?

  100. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 9:48 pm #

    G: Shame on him.

    Indeed.

  101. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 12, 2013 at 10:06 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    Don’t let the door hit where you where…well where a Marine should really plant his boot, ankle deep.

  102. avatar
    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 10:15 pm #

    CarlOrcas: how is the military coup going two days on?

    It fizzled out. Powell didn’t want to be late for dinner.

  103. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 12, 2013 at 10:41 pm #

    misha marinsky: It fizzled out. Powell didn’t want to be late for dinner.

    Priorities.

  104. avatar
    Keith September 12, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: You are a shame unto the Lord and a disgrace to Christianity!

    I disagree entirely.

    Just because someone mixes the name of the Lord into his sentences like sand on a beach doesn’t mean that person is a Christian.

    Christians are not Christians just because they say they are Christians. Christianity is a way of living, not a collection of bumper sticker phrases to be used as rhetorical weapons.

    The only time Jesus got mad and called people bad names was when he threw the moneychangers off the Temple grounds. Even then he didn’t call them ‘murdering pigs’, just ‘robbers’ or ‘thieves’, and basically he just told them to go away.

    The central tenet of virtually every religion on Earth is the Golden Rule as expressed in the language of that religion. Anyone who calls themselves religious in any way, and yet has not concept of the phrase “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or its corollary “do not do to others what you would not have them do unto you” is lying to themselves and others.

    To claim Christ’s authority to spew hatred and/or perform hateful acts is despicable, anti-social, and, in many cases, quite probably psychotic. What it certainly is not is Christian, and Christians should not be embarrassed by ‘faux’-Christians behaving in a non-Christian manner.

    Of course this also means that Muslims should not be embarrassed by ‘faux’-Muslims behaving in a non-Christian manner. But we all know that every person that calls themselves a Muslim is a blood thirsty terrorist and wants to eat the babies of innocent Christians, don’t we? Otherwise why aren’t the ‘moderates’ speaking up more to marginalize the faux-Muslims?

    What Christians should be embarrassed about is their silence. Christians should speak up more when these liars and hypocrites spout their filthy creed. Why aren’t these people called out, Christians need to explain that these spawn of Satan are not Christians and are taking the name of the Christ in vain and are the true opposite of what Christianity stands for.

    Some references from Wikipedia on the Golden Rule:

    Christianity:
    According to Simon Blackburn, although the Golden Rule “can be found in some form in almost every ethical tradition”, the rule is “sometimes claimed by Christianity as its own”.[51] The “Golden Rule” has been attributed to Jesus of Nazareth: “Therefore all things whatsoever would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them” (Matthew 7:12, see also Luke 6:31). The common English phrasing is “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. A similar form appeared in a Catholic catechism around 1567 (certainly in the reprint of 1583).[52] The Golden Rule also has roots in the two old testament edicts, found in Leviticus 19:18 (“Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself”; see also Great Commandment) and Leviticus 19:34 (“But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God”).

    Luke 10:25-28

    25And one day an authority on the law stood up to put Jesus to the test. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to receive eternal life?”

    26What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you understand it?” 27He answered, “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Love him with all your strength and with all your mind.’(Deuteronomy 6:5) And, ‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself.’ ”
    28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do that, and you will live.”.

    Confucianism:
    Zi gong (a disciple of Confucius) asked: “Is there any one word that could guide a person throughout life?”
    The Master replied: “How about ‘shu’ [reciprocity]: never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself?”

    (Note: Confucius was 500 years BEFORE the similar story in Luke)

    Hinduism:
    One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one’s own self. This, in brief, is the rule of dharma. Other behavior is due to selfish desires.
    —Brihaspati, Mahabharata (Anusasana Parva, Section CXIII, Verse 8)

    Humanism:
    Do not do to others what you would not want them to do to you. [is] (…) the single greatest, simplest, and most important moral axiom humanity has ever invented, one which reappears in the writings of almost every culture and religion throughout history, the one we know as the Golden Rule. Moral directives do not need to be complex or obscure to be worthwhile, and in fact, it is precisely this rule’s simplicity which makes it great. It is easy to come up with, easy to understand, and easy to apply, and these three things are the hallmarks of a strong and healthy moral system. The idea behind it is readily graspable: before performing an action which might harm another person, try to imagine yourself in their position, and consider whether you would want to be the recipient of that action. If you would not want to be in such a position, the other person probably would not either, and so you should not do it. It is the basic and fundamental human trait of empathy, the ability to vicariously experience how another is feeling, that makes this possible, and it is the principle of empathy by which we should live our lives.
    —Adam Lee, Ebon Musings, “A decalogue for the modern world”

    Islam
    “…and you should forgive And overlook: Do you not like God to forgive you? And Allah is The Merciful Forgiving.”
    — Qur’an (Surah 24, “The Light,” v. 22)

    A Bedouin came to the prophet, grabbed the stirrup of his camel and said: O the messenger of God! Teach me something to go to heaven with it. Prophet said: “As you would have people do to you, do to them; and what you dislike to be done to you, don’t do to them. Now let the stirrup go! [This maxim is enough for you; go and act in accordance with it!]”
    —Kitab al-Kafi, vol. 2, p. 146

    Jainism:
    The following quotation from the Acaranga Sutra sums up the philosophy of Jainism:

    Nothing which breathes, which exists, which lives, or which has essence or potential of life, should be destroyed or ruled over, or subjugated, or harmed, or denied of its essence or potential. In support of this Truth, I ask you a question – “Is sorrow or pain desirable to you ?” If you say “yes it is”, it would be a lie. If you say, “No, It is not” you will be expressing the truth. Just as sorrow or pain is not desirable to you, so it is to all which breathe, exist, live or have any essence of life. To you and all, it is undesirable, and painful, and repugnant.

    Judaism:
    The Golden Rule originates in a well-known Torah verse (Hebrew: “ואהבת לרעך כמוך”):

    You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against your kinsfolk. Love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.
    —Leviticus 19:18

    (Misha likes to quote Hillel:)
    “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn.”
    —Talmud, Shabbat 31a

    Mohism:
    If people regarded other people’s families in the same way that they regard their own, who then would incite their own family to attack that of another? For one would do for others as one would do for oneself.
    —Mozi

    Platonism:
    One should never do wrong in return, nor mistreat any man, no matter how one has been mistreated by him.”
    —Plato’s Socrates (Crito, 49c) (c. 469 BC–399 BC)

    Taoism:
    The sage has no interest of his own, but takes the interests of the people as his own. He is kind to the kind; he is also kind to the unkind: for Virtue is kind. He is faithful to the faithful; he is also faithful to the unfaithful: for Virtue is faithful.
    —Tao Teh Ching, Chapter 49

  105. avatar
    Arthur September 12, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

    Bobby Powell is a lying, grifting, blowhard. Evidence? Well, there’s nothing like using a scoundrel’s own words to indict him. Here are portions of a July 27 post from his blog in which he describes what he’ll do in Washington D.C. on September 9:

    “On September 9th millions of Americans will gather in Washington D.C. to let their Congressmen and Senators know that they are sick and tired of the crimes being committed by the Obama administration . . .”

    “There are several groups of Patriots, and the number of groups increases every day, that are planning to descend on Washington D.C. throughout the month of September. Each has an agenda that may or may not coincide with the plans of The Truth Is Viral; but we are unconcerned with the plans of others. We have a plan of our own.

    “I will be making a packet of information available to the viewers of this program which will include a 200 point affidavit presented to the Alabama Supreme Court by Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse . . .

    “I intend to personally present this packet of information to Dan Beneshek, my elected Representative in Congress, and to my Senators Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow. I am encouraging everyone who reads this to do the same. While I am there I also intend to point out to Senator Levin, one of the architects of the NDAA, that every single State Representative and State Senator in Michigan has voted to nullify the indefinite detention provision in the NDAA.

    “I am going to ask Senator Levin how he can support the NDAA when the People of the State of Michigan, through the UNANIMOUS vote of their state-level representatives, have told him to shove it.

    “After I have thoroughly shamed my own representatives I am going to take a stroll to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Anyone wishing to walk with me is welcome to do so, but I am not calling this a ‘march,’ ‘demonstration,’ or ‘protest’ because permits are not needed for American citizens simply wishing to visit the nation’s Capitol.

    “I am probably going to have to get a permit to set up my sound system in front of the White House, but that’s just me. Once I set up I am going to speak Truth to Power, cranking up the volume as high as it can go to make sure that Barack Obama hears me when I call him out. He is NOT going to be happy with what I have to say.

    “In order to get to Washington D.C. though, I need your help. The $2,200 it is going to cost me to rent a vehicle and get to D.C. and back with my gear is equal to more than 2 months of my Social Security Disability income. I will gladly throw my own body on the gears to ensure a future for my children and grandchildren, but I need you to get me to the machine.

    “If you want to watch me take it to those in Washington D.C. that are purposely trying to destroy this country, click one of the Paypal buttons at the top right of this page and give until it hurts. I have given everything I own to keep TTiV on the air, even taking a cut in my disability income, food stamps, and completely losing my Medicaid.

    “I have nothing left to give but my body, and I will gladly put that on the line if it means I can save my children, and yours, from having to live in a totalitarian, Islamophilic, Communist dictatorship. I believe that Father saved me for this final battle, and that He is using me – and you – to save lives and win souls for Him before Christ returns to put an end to this BS once and for all.”

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    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 11:38 pm #

    Keith: (Misha likes to quote Hillel:)
    “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillel_the_Elder

    c.110 BCE, died 10 CE – He is popularly known as the author of…the ethic of reciprocity, or “Golden Rule”: “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn.”

    and

    “As Hillel the Elder had stated, whosoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whosoever that saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.”

    A Gentile wag asked that the Torah be explained to him while he stood on one foot; everyone else dismissed the man. Hillel chided the man for his behavior, but in a constructive way:

    “What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn”

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    misha marinsky September 12, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

    Arthur: Bobby Powell is a lying, grifting, blowhard. Evidence?

    “In order to get to Washington D.C. though, I need your help. The $2,200 it is going to cost me to rent a vehicle and get to D.C. and back with my gear is equal to more than 2 months of my Social Security Disability income. I will gladly throw my own body on the gears to ensure a future for my children and grandchildren, but I need you to get me to the machine.”

    “If you want to watch me take it to those in Washington D.C. that are purposely trying to destroy this country, click one of the Paypal buttons at the top right of this page and give until it hurts. I have given everything I own to keep TTiV on the air, even taking a cut in my disability income, food stamps, and completely losing my Medicaid.”

    “I have nothing left to give but my body, and I will gladly put that on the line if it means I can save my children, and yours, from having to live in a totalitarian, Islamophilic, Communist dictatorship. I believe that Father saved me for this final battle, and that He is using me – and you – to save lives and win souls for Him before Christ returns to put an end to this BS once and for all.”

    He spends his time watching televangelists. They have it down to a science, like Marjoe Gortner and Aimee Semple McPherson.

  108. avatar
    G September 13, 2013 at 1:24 am #

    BRAVO on every word and example in your post!!! I just captured and highlighted the thesis points to restate their impact.

    Keith: Just because someone mixes the name of the Lord into his sentences like sand on a beach doesn’t mean that person is a Christian.

    Christians are not Christians just because they say they are Christians. Christianity is a way of living, not a collection of bumper sticker phrases to be used as rhetorical weapons.

    The only time Jesus got mad and called people bad names was when he threw the moneychangers off the Temple grounds. Even then he didn’t call them ‘murdering pigs’, just ‘robbers’ or ‘thieves’, and basically he just told them to go away.

    The central tenet of virtually every religion on Earth is the Golden Rule as expressed in the language of that religion. Anyone who calls themselves religious in any way, and yet has not concept of the phrase “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” or its corollary “do not do to others what you would not have them do unto you” is lying to themselves and others.

    To claim Christ’s authority to spew hatred and/or perform hateful acts is despicable, anti-social, and, in many cases, quite probably psychotic. What it certainly is not is Christian, and Christians should not be embarrassed by ‘faux’-Christians behaving in a non-Christian manner.

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    Lupin September 13, 2013 at 2:14 am #

    misha marinsky: Lupin: The same lunatics who run your Congress are talking again about not raising the debt ceiling and letting the US default

    My open letter to Eric Cantor:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/an-open-letter-to-eric-cantor.html

    Bravo, Misha!

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    Majority Will September 13, 2013 at 3:10 am #

    “even taking a cut in my disability income, food stamps, and completely losing my Medicaid.”

    Paid for with our tax dollars.

    The hypocrisy, greed and bigotry of some of these weak minded, self righteous lunatics is astounding.

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 5:38 am #

    Majority Will: “even taking a cut in my disability income, food stamps, and completely losing my Medicaid.”

    Paid for with our tax dollars. The hypocrisy, greed and bigotry of some of these weak minded, self righteous lunatics is astounding.

    And he’s the first one to scream “socialism.”

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 6:01 am #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): You people are just sick.

    Да з’равствует Ленин!

  113. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 13, 2013 at 8:25 am #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    You people are just sick. I’ll leave you alone to your little circle jerk.

    Says the guy wanting to overthrow the government and hand the black guy. Your march was a failure simply because there aren’t enough of you out there who believe like you do. There is no right wing populism. The tea party movement was completely manufactured.

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    Arthur September 13, 2013 at 9:19 am #

    Majority Will: The hypocrisy, greed and bigotry of some of these weak minded, self righteous lunatics is astounding.

    Well said.

  115. avatar
    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral) September 13, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

    I’m going to mention your cute little blog on my show. The “Ming the Merciless” comment still has me cracking up. LOL.

    As part of that show I’d like to give you guys your say too. Does anyone, including (ESPECIALLY) the owner of this blog, have the balls or the intellect to stand up against me in a live debate?

    Anyone wishing to come on to The Truth Is Viral as a guest can send their information to newstips@ttiv.net. You MUST have a Skype account with video chat capabilities and be willing to debate me under your real name. Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    Got the chops?

    Got the balls?

    As far as me collecting disability, I paid for my disability insurance with the taxes I paid by working 2 jobs for twenty years, including a tour in the Marine Corps. I EARNED every penny I receive and, unlike many, I’m trying as hard as I can to recover from injuries that left me in a wheelchair for three years unable to read, write, or speak properly.

    Am I writing that for sympathy? LOL, from YOU LOT? People like you have threatened to burn my children to death while they sleep in their beds and gang rape my terminally ill wife so I don’t expect any sympathy from you. That was a warning. I’m no wimp.

    It took 8 surgeries and countless hours of physical therapy to get me back in the game. More importantly, I’ve been healed in ways doctors can’t explain, so I know God is working in my life. He has restored my abilities so that I can take part in this final battle. When I speak, I speak for Him.

    You want to take me on? Bring it.

  116. avatar
    Graham Shevlin September 13, 2013 at 12:21 pm #

    Bring it.

    Bobby, has anybody ever tried to explain to you that your whole style of communication makes you look like a macho posturing blowhard?

  117. avatar
    BatGuano September 13, 2013 at 12:24 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    You want to take me on? Bring it.

    popcorn, please.

  118. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    I’m going to mention your cute little blog on my show. The “Ming the Merciless” comment still has me cracking up. LOL.

    As part of that show I’d like to give you guys your say too. Does anyone, including (ESPECIALLY) the owner of this blog, have the balls or the intellect to stand up against me in a live debate?

    Anyone wishing to come on to The Truth Is Viral as a guest can send their information to newstips@ttiv.net. You MUST have a Skype account with video chat capabilities and be willing to debate me under your real name. Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    Got the chops?

    Got the balls?

    As far as me collecting disability, I paid for my disability insurance with the taxes I paid by working 2 jobs for twenty years, including a tour in the Marine Corps. I EARNED every penny I receive and, unlike many, I’m trying as hard as I can to recover from injuries that left me in a wheelchair for three years unable to read, write, or speak properly.

    Am I writing that for sympathy? LOL, from YOU LOT? People like you have threatened to burn my children to death while they sleep in their beds and gang rape my terminally ill wife so I don’t expect any sympathy from you. That was a warning. I’m no wimp.

    It took 8 surgeries and countless hours of physical therapy to get me back in the game. More importantly, I’ve been healed in ways doctors can’t explain, so I know God is working in my life. He has restored my abilities so that I can take part in this final battle. When I speak, I speak for Him.

    You want to take me on? Bring it.

    Oh, I’m sure if Doc or any one else accepts your challenge, you’ll back out at the last minute. Seems par for the course.
    I bet your wife is wishing she was dead already, just so she wouldn’t have to put up with you. If she saw the way you’re acting, she’d probably try to hurry things along out of shame.

    What, you think that because you have a faux-radio show that you’re special? This is the internet age, everyone and their brother has a blog, internet radio show, youtube channel. What makes you so remarkable? Before this article I had never even heard of you!

    And if you think for one minute that God actually smiles on people who abuse and pervert his name, the way you do, boy are you in for a shock.

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    Bovril September 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    Bobby, Bobby

    You really don’t get it, do you..?

    You rail and wax incoherently about Obama, the evils of his socialist programs including “Obamacare” whilst supping deeply from those very “socialist” programs you so plainly hate.

    You are aware I trust that the relative pittance you paid into the system doesn’t even come close to actually PAYING for the resources you are sucking from the system..?

    I am also curious as to how, and I see no reason to believe you’re a liar, that you on the one hand served this country as a member of the miltary, with the requirements, expectations and duty to follow the law, the UCMJ and the Constitution and yet call for seditious, nay treasonable activity by the military against the C in C and the civilian government of this country?

    Where I come from that makes you at BEST a Blue Falcon.

    Along with a number of other posters on this specific forum, I also served, I, in point of fact was medically discharged after significant head trauma in action. If my brain bucket had been an inch higher on my skull I wouldn’t be here today.

    As such, you and your ilk truly disgust and shame those of us who have served and truly support this country and its institutions.

  120. avatar
    BatGuano September 13, 2013 at 12:36 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    I bet your wife is wishing she was dead already,……

    ooof. unnecessary low blow.

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    Arthur September 13, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    There’s nothing to debate, Bobby. By your own words you are a deluded liar and petty ante grifter. You beg for money to attend an event and then you don’t even go. You think government handouts are bad unless you’re receiving them. You believe that Russian troops are fighting militias in rural Michigan. You believe in UFO conspiracies. You believe that every helicopter that flies near your house is out to get you. You believe a video of Wesley Clark from 2007, in which he describes the way neocons in the George H. and George W. Bush administrations were corrupting military policy to enable an invasion of Iraq is really describing an actual coup d’etat taking place right now.

    You can’t tell the difference between reality and the fetid delusions of your twisted imagination. An intellectual debate? Once you begin to demonstrate that you possess an intellect (as opposed to the paranoid blathering on your blog) I might consider it. Until then, Bobby, you’re only worthy of censure and ridicule.

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    Arthur September 13, 2013 at 12:42 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I know God is working in my life. He has restored my abilities so that I can take part in this final battle. When I speak, I speak for Him.

    And so said every mentally ill person who has murdered in the name of God. You’re a disgrace.

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    CarlOrcas September 13, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): When I speak, I speak for Him.

    Have you got a phone number or e-mail address you can share? I’ve got some questions I’d like to get answered.

    Thanks.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

    BatGuano: ooof. unnecessary low blow.

    Well, I never once claimed to be the model of civility. Besides, he just added that little gem to make people feel sorry for him, or back away from getting down on him. I’ve dealt with perpetual liars like him before. When one lie doesn’t work, they try something bigger. Its a mutation of “You wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses, would you?”. Best thing for it is to be callous as hell.

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    Publius September 13, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): Anyone wishing to come on to The Truth Is Viral as a guest can send their information to newstips@ttiv.net. You MUST have a Skype account with video chat capabilities and be willing to debate me under your real name. Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    You may well find someone to come on your show. But I’m not quite sure what’s to debate, other than politics.

    The “forgery” allegations have been shown to be false again and again and again. Likewise, birthers have repeatedly shown they don’t have the facts behind them, just a bunch of circular logic, assumptions, belligerence against reality and name-calling of anyone who points out the truth.

    I can only assume that anyone who comes on your show would only be subjected to more of the same. But frankly, anyone who knows anything who comes on your show would be doing you the favor of giving you more credibility than you deserve. And when it comes to debate, again I’m not sure what’s to debate, since as far as I know you haven’t contributed any meaningful analysis to the whole thing at all.

    Or even debatable analysis, whether meaningful or not.

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    Kiwiwriter September 13, 2013 at 12:54 pm #

    Keith: I disagree entirely.

    Just because someone mixes the name of the Lord into his sentences like sand on a beach doesn’t mean that person is a Christian.

    I was mostly attacking his failure to uphold the standards of his faith, not saying that Christianity was wrong or evil…someone who goes out saying he’s trying to save lives and souls for Christ should NOT descend into the latrine to make his point.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 1:07 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: I was mostly attacking his failure to uphold the standards of his faith, not saying that Christianity was wrong or evil…someone who goes out saying he’s trying to save lives and souls for Christ should NOT descend into the latrine to make his point.

    And people who go “Look at me! I did these great works in Gods name! This makes me better than you!”, are one of the things Christ taught AGAINST. Well, you know, that and the whole “Using faith in God to somehow justify being a complete and utter dick” motif that Bobby is trying to pull off.

  128. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 13, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral):
    I’m going to mention your cute little blog on my show. The “Ming the Merciless” comment still has me cracking up. LOL.

    As part of that show I’d like to give you guys your say too. Does anyone, including (ESPECIALLY) the owner of this blog, have the balls or the intellect to stand up against me in a live debate?

    Anyone wishing to come on to The Truth Is Viral as a guest can send their information to newstips@ttiv.net. You MUST have a Skype account with video chat capabilities and be willing to debate me under your real name. Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    Got the chops?

    Got the balls?

    As far as me collecting disability, I paid for my disability insurance with the taxes I paid by working 2 jobs for twenty years, including a tour in the Marine Corps. I EARNED every penny I receive and, unlike many, I’m trying as hard as I can to recover from injuries that left me in a wheelchair for three years unable to read, write, or speak properly.

    Am I writing that for sympathy? LOL, from YOU LOT? People like you have threatened to burn my children to death while they sleep in their beds and gang rape my terminally ill wife so I don’t expect any sympathy from you. That was a warning. I’m no wimp.

    It took 8 surgeries and countless hours of physical therapy to get me back in the game. More importantly, I’ve been healed in ways doctors can’t explain, so I know God is working in my life. He has restored my abilities so that I can take part in this final battle. When I speak, I speak for Him.

    You want to take me on? Bring it.

    I thought you had no intention of debating “sick people.” Why would you want to debate “sick people?” Doesn’t sound like much of a debate…especially when we call you out on your lies, grifting, and gutter language.

    I thought you were going to leave us alone, to our…what was it? Oh, yes. “Circle jerk.” But you came back anyway, and challenged us about our manhood and courage? Didn’t Jesus talk about the power of meekness, and about turning the other cheek? About using love and nonviolence to win over enemies?

    You talk about violent revolution in the grand terms and attack your opponents for their manhood and sexuality on the small scale. Doesn’t sound like the God of the New Testament. Or the Old Testament, either. Has God become an angry racist, who hates all of His children? When did God change this plan? Do you have any Documentation on his new plans? Some Revelatory document? Did you have a chat with Him on a mountaintop? Did He present you with a new set of Commandments to overturn the previous 10?

    How do you know God is not speaking to us? What does God think about your manifold lies and deceits? Doesn’t the Bible give fierce punishment to liars? How do you think God will judge you and your dying wife when He holds you accountable for your behavior?

    Maybe you should go back and re-read the Sermon on the Mount before you go screeching hysterically at us like an overheated adolescent. Christ did not insult his opponents, challenge their manhood, threaten their lives, beg for money, lie to the public, or call for violence. He begged for forgiveness for his enemies, and called for justice, love, and peace.

    I don’t think you’re much of a Christian.

    Here’s an irony for you…Muslims are often more familiar with Christianity than Christian folks…because Christianity is a basis for Islam, so they study it with a good deal of intensity. When Iraqi troops captured the famous British SAS patrol in 1991, they were convinced the captive Britons were Jews. The Britons said they were Christians. So the Iraqis grilled them with questions about esoteric topics like the lives of the early saints. Naturally, the British troops had no idea of the significance of St. Swithin — the Iraqis did. The Britons convinced the Iraqis they weren’t Jews, which may have saved their lives.

    I think you need to learn more about your religion, and a little less about how to manage a Paypal account and a radio station.

    You certainly need to learn a great deal about civil behavior and ordinary politeness.

    And as I said before, I am truly saddened by your wife’s condition, and absolutely do NOT regard hurling rape and death threats as an appropriate means of communication or debate. Nobody should sink to that level, either. I hope that you have taken appropriate action to address these calls and threats…I will certainly disabuse anyone I know from making them. However, I don’t know any such people, so there isn’t much I can do, but agree that such behavior is wrong.

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    Kiwiwriter September 13, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: And people who go “Look at me! I did these great works in Gods name! This makes me better than you!”, are one of the things Christ taught AGAINST. Well, you know, that and the whole “Using faith in God to somehow justify being a complete and utter dick” motif that Bobby is trying to pull off.

    Absolutely…Chris preached humility. But God is probably often astonished at the people who claim to be His biggest supporters…with friends like those, God doesn’t need Satan.

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    Majority Will September 13, 2013 at 1:16 pm #

    “Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.”

    It just wouldn’t be sporting to take on a mentally unarmed and paranoid buffoon with delusions of grandeur.

  131. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 13, 2013 at 1:16 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Best thing for it is to be callous as hell.

    Not really.

  132. avatar
    Majority Will September 13, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

    “People like you . . .”

    Ahhh, unhinged bigotry at its finest.

  133. avatar
    Publius September 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): People like you have threatened to burn my children to death while they sleep in their beds and gang rape my terminally ill wife so I don’t expect any sympathy from you. That was a warning. I’m no wimp.

    Well, THAT was an odd comment.

    People like those posting at this forum? I’m certainly not aware of anyone here who has made even a threat to call the police on Mr. Powell or toilet-paper his house, let alone commit vile and horrendous crimes against him and his family.

    And if anyone came even remotely close to suggesting such a thing, I have no doubt the good Doc would immediately show them the door.

    Getting kind of like, majorly unhinged there, aren’t we, Bobby?

    Oh. And you can add me to the list of those who aren’t at all impressed with your “Christianity.” And I speak as someone who knows a fair bit about the subject.

  134. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Not really.

    Maybe you’re right, but in the case of Billy’s already-posted BS, I’ll make no take backs.

    Publius: Well, THAT was an odd comment.

    I’m certainly not aware of anyone here who has made even a threat to call the police on Mr. Powell

    No, but I could easily see how someone would be tempted to call the men in white coats on him.

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    Publius September 13, 2013 at 1:30 pm #

    In fact, we have some members of this forum even gently rebuking another member for a comment that was, well, not perhaps in the best of taste.

    Ah, but you have to demonize your “opponents.”

    Which is to say, those of us who are kind enough to tell you the truth. (Even if we don’t always do so with the politest of manners.)

    Because if you don’t demonize those who don’t agree with the birther nonsense, then you might get stripped of the birther fantasies that you so dearly want to cling to.

    You see, we might just understand you a bit better than you realize.

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    BatGuano September 13, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

    Publius: But I’m not quite sure what’s to debate,…..

    good question. another would be exactly how to debate.

    bobby, would you be willing to pre-agree to set topics and a mutually agreed upon format for the debate?

  137. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 13, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Maybe you’re right, but in the case of Billy’s already-posted BS, I’ll make no take backs.

    It’s the old “two wrongs don’t make a right” thing. He was wrong to inject his wife into his lunacy and dragging her into any response is unnecessary.

  138. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

    CarlOrcas: It’s the old “two wrongs don’t make a right” thing. He was wrong to inject his wife into his lunacy and dragging her into any response is unnecessary.

    I’ll refrain from making any similar remarks in poor taste, but I ain’t taking back what I already said. Thats about as close an apology as I’m gonna give. Now if Doc wants to remove or edit my comment, or reprimand me for it, that is his call to make, as I am just a guest here.

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    The Magic M September 13, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: And if you think for one minute that God actually smiles on people who abuse and pervert his name, the way you do, boy are you in for a shock.

    The most logical explanation for a self-professed “Christian” who does so many un-Christian things is that he is actually an atheist who believes he can take the name in vain as often as he likes because there’s no deity punishing him in life or after.
    They’re about as Christian as Arpaio was “wanting to clear the President”.

    Too many people have invented their own “do as thou wilt” framework and just slapped on the label of Christianity (“God wants me to do it”).
    If this were a business, it would be false advertising of the most egregious kind.

    (Disclaimer: I’m an agnostic and consider any belief system that incorporates the supernatural as dumb, superstitious and illiterate. Sorry if believers are offended.)

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm #

    The Magic M:
    (Disclaimer: I’m an agnostic and consider any belief system that incorporates the supernatural as dumb, superstitious and illiterate. Sorry if believers are offended.)

    No offense taken. If I distanced myself from everyone who didn’t believe the same as I do, I’d have no one to talk to online or in real life! LOL! Though I will admit deciding on what to get on a pizza gets tricky with my Jewish friends. 😉

    My wife’s parents are ultra-conservative Christians, you should have seen the look on their faces when they found out that my sister(An ordained Pagan minister) did our ceremony. Freaking. Priceless.

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    The only topic that I consider myself an expert on is whether President Obama is a natural born citizen. If you want to debate that, fine by me, assuming that I find that you play fair in debates. How’s mid-October sound?

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): As part of that show I’d like to give you guys your say too. Does anyone, including (ESPECIALLY) the owner of this blog, have the balls or the intellect to stand up against me in a live debate?

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 2:48 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): When I speak, I speak for Him.

    The doctors still have to do something about your schizophrenia.

    When you talk to God, you are praying. When God talks to you, you are schizophrenic.

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    If you argue with a fool, make sure you’re not doing the same thing.

  143. avatar
    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

    The Magic M(Disclaimer: I’m an agnostic and consider any belief system that incorporates the supernatural as dumb, superstitious and illiterate. Sorry if believers are offended.)

    I’m a Jewish graduate of a Jesuit college, and I’m not a believer. The bible, or scriptures, is allegory like Greek mythology. Call it Jewish mythology.

    I come from a long line of Russian-Jewish social rebels, including my mother.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 13, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The only topic that I consider myself an expert on is whether President Obama is a natural born citizen.

    Looking dapper in awesome hats, you’re also an expert in that. But that’s kind of hard to convey in a radio program…

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    The Magic M: Too many people have invented their own “do as thou wilt” framework and just slapped on the label of Christianity (“God wants me to do it”).

    Gott mit uns

    http://rotter.net/User_files/forum/51d461e409fba452.jpg

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    Crustacean September 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    Keith: The only time Jesus got mad and called people bad names was when he threw the moneychangers off the Temple grounds

    Hi Keith,

    I agree with that comment, at least as it pertains to Jesus the Christ. But Jesus the man from Galilee was a Jewish zealot and a rebel who opposed Roman rule as well as the Temple priests and the wealthy Jewish aristocrats whose homes he quite possibly – probably? – helped build in the city of Sepphoris.

    Given the circumstances of his birth, the times in which he lived, and the fact that he was executed for the crime of sedition, it’s likely he engaged in more violent activities than just frog-marching a few money-changers out of the Temple.

    As Reza Aslan writes in his book, “Zealot: the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth,” the real Jesus “bears little resemblance to the image of the gentle shepherd cultivated by the early Christian community.” Is Aslan the definitive authority on all things Jesus? Of course not, but he makes a fairly compelling case, and he’s not the first scholar to make this case.

    So while Mr. Powell may not be acting as a good Christian, his rebellious anger, perhaps, is not completely unlike that of the most famous of Nazarenes.

  147. avatar
    BatGuano September 13, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: How’s mid-October sound?

    … and over to you bobby.

    ???

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 13, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): Anyone wishing to come on to The Truth Is Viral as a guest can send their information to newstips@ttiv.net. You MUST have a Skype account with video chat capabilities and be willing to debate me under your real name. Other than that, I’ll take on any one of you in an intellectual debate.

    Intellectual debate? You have yet to even show you’re capable. This “little blog” gets more viewers than your little one man jerk & pull.

    How exactly would you know any of the people you claim threatened you are anything like us? You make some broad based assumptions.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    BatGuano: popcorn, please.

    I really would have thought it would take longer for him to self implode. That’s the problem with blowhards.

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    Arthur September 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: If you want to debate that, fine by me, assuming that I find that you play fair in debates.

    Doc, you’ve read his blog. Maybe you’ve even seen his videos on YouTube. I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that Bobby Powell would “play fair” in a debate. I don’t necessarily believe he’s an evil person, but it’s clear that he has some kind of mental disorder that would make attempts at a rational exchange of facts and arguments impossible.

    Debating Mr. Powell would be like debating Nancy Owens Barger–I just don’t see any value to it.

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I’m trying as hard as I can to recover from injuries that left me in a wheelchair for three years unable to read, write, or speak properly…

    …my terminally ill wife so I don’t expect any sympathy from you…

    It took 8 surgeries and countless hours of physical therapy to get me back in the game. More importantly, I’ve been healed in ways doctors can’t explain, so I know God is working in my life. He has restored my abilities so that I can take part in this final battle. When I speak, I speak for Him.

    The Benny Hinn schtick; you learned it well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVG1x-rh6FE

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    Arthur: Debating Mr. Powell would be like debating Nancy Owens Barger

    Nah, like debating Aimee Semple McPherson.

  153. avatar
    BatGuano September 13, 2013 at 3:20 pm #

    Crustacean:
    Given the circumstances of his birth,……

    we’ve still yet to see the original vital records microfilm from bethlehem.

  154. avatar
    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 3:27 pm #

    Bobby Powell (@TheTruthIsViral): I’ll leave you alone

    Promises, promises

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    Crustacean September 13, 2013 at 3:32 pm #

    BatGuano: we’ve still yet to see the original vital records microfilm from bethlehem.

    LOL!!! I should’ve seen that one coming!! 😀

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 3:38 pm #

    This is not a drill!!! This is not a joke or parody!!!

    Carl Gallups gay; has Jewish boyfriend.

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    Keith September 13, 2013 at 4:48 pm #

    Crustacean: I agree with that comment, at least as it pertains to Jesus the Christ.

    Yes, that is who I was discussing, that is who the Christian faith is based upon, and who the faux-Christians are pretending to follow..

    Jesus the man, within the context of the times and as a personality outside of the mythology, is not recorded, only inferred. I haven’t read Aslan’s book yet, but I hear good things about it. I doubt that he has examples of Jesus exploding in anger and calling people names though.

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 13, 2013 at 5:20 pm #

    You can perhaps translate yourself into it.

    “Damn you, Chorazin! Damn you, Bethsaida! If the miracles done in you had been done in Tyre and Sydon, they would have sat in sackcloth and ashes and changed their ways long ago. But Tyre and Sidon will be better off at the judgment than you. And you, Capernaum, you don’t think you’ll be exalted to heaven, do you? No, you’ll go to Hell.”

    Luke 10:13-14 SV

    Keith: I haven’t read Aslan’s book yet, but I hear good things about it. I doubt that he has examples of Jesus exploding in anger and calling people names though.

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    Crustacean September 13, 2013 at 6:13 pm #

    Keith: Yes, that is who I was discussing, that is who the Christian faith is based upon, and who the faux-Christians are pretending to follow..

    I apologize, Keith. My comment reads like I’m lecturing you, which was not my intent (and it would be inappropriate, anyway, since, not only am I not a religious scholar, I haven’t even finished Aslan’s book yet! I’m just a silly crab with a keyboard).

    I did get your point, however. Mine was just to say how ironic it is that someone who would surely reject the notion that Jesus was nothing more than an extraordinary man might actually have more in common with the man (less the extraordinary part) than the Christ he makes such a show of worshipping.

    Why Jesus’s having been an extraordinary man isn’t enough for some folks is a bit of a mystery to me, though I try not to be one of those snooty, smarty-pants atheists. I envy believers a little. I mean, I’d love to believe that I’m going to see my mom again, but I can’t.

    Oh crap, my eye stalks are starting to leak…

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    Keith September 13, 2013 at 8:42 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: I was mostly attacking his failure to uphold the standards of his faith, not saying that Christianity was wrong or evil…someone who goes out saying he’s trying to save lives and souls for Christ should NOT descend into the latrine to make his point.

    I understand your point. My point is that he isn’t a Christian, so his behavior cannot be construed as embarrassing to Christianity. I was not trying to say anything about Christianity one way or the other.

    We don’t consider the actions of faith-healers as a ‘disgrace to the Medical profession’, even if that faith-healer calls himself (or herself) a ‘doctor’, do we?

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    Keith September 13, 2013 at 9:14 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    You can perhaps translate yourself into it.

    “Damn you, Chorazin! Damn you, Bethsaida! If the miracles done in you had been done in Tyre and Sydon, they would have sat in sackcloth and ashes and changed their ways long ago. But Tyre and Sidon will be better off at the judgment than you. And you, Capernaum, you don’t think you’ll be exalted to heaven, do you? No, you’ll go to Hell.”

    Luke 10:13-14 SV

    If I read the context correctly, that quote is Jesus instructing his advance party on how to convince reluctant towns to receive him. He is not angry and is not calling people names. He is discussing tactics.

    I think he’s just suggesting that those reluctant towns be told that they are so sinful that even Tyre and Sidon, two well known dens of inequity, would be embarrassed, and, of course, Jesus can help sort them out.

    Kind of like a mother telling her daughter that she dresses worse than a Los Vegas hooker and why don’t you go back to your room and put on some proper clothes.

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    aarrgghh September 13, 2013 at 10:46 pm #

    in defending christianity or any self-indentified and self-selecting group of individuals, one must be careful to avoid falling into a “no true scotsman” argument. it implies if not asserts that there are no bad christians by excommunicating anyone who crosses some arbitrary line or taints the brand in some fashion. what is “behaving in a non-christian manner”? how many, if any, of its myriad rules, rites and rituals, in what permutations and how frequently, can one transgress before he loses his membership card? is a believing church-going family man who’s never raised a hand against even the dog — yet hardcore pathological birfer — still a christian? the reality is that, as in any group, there are bad eggs along with the good eggs. while we must be careful not to count the sins of the one against the many, we cannot ignore the potentially negative ramifications of any group’s tenets or the consequences of following a rulebook cobbled together during the iron age.

    as voltaire said: “those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

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    G September 13, 2013 at 11:21 pm #

    I’m with you on all these points. I have no idea where his paranoid mind is coming up with this stuff, but the behavior he describes is certainly NOT the behavior displayed by regular participants of this forum, nor tolerated by the administrator or any of us, so it is certainly not “people like us” that would act like that. Considering the bizarre mentality and nonsense he displays, I am cynical that the comments he described even happened, except in his own perverse imagination…or are at best, quite a vulgar exaggeration. But hey, it gives him another faux-excuse to justify his own hate and bad behavior towards others. Mere projection, more likely.

    Publius: Well, THAT was an odd comment.

    People like those posting at this forum? I’m certainly not aware of anyone here who has made even a threat to call the police on Mr. Powell or toilet-paper his house, let alone commit vile and horrendous crimes against him and his family.

    And if anyone came even remotely close to suggesting such a thing, I have no doubt the good Doc would immediately show them the door.

    Getting kind of like, majorly unhinged there, aren’t we, Bobby?

    Oh. And you can add me to the list of those who aren’t at all impressed with your “Christianity.” And I speak as someone who knows a fair bit about the subject.

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    misha marinsky September 13, 2013 at 11:36 pm #

    aarrgghh: as voltaire said: “those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

    Voltaire was being critical of religion.

    No kingdom has shed more blood than the kingdom of Christ. – Charles de Montesquieu

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    Keith September 14, 2013 at 2:26 am #

    aarrgghh: in defending christianity or any self-indentified and self-selecting group of individuals, one must be careful to avoid falling into a “no true scotsman” argument.

    I agree, and I recognize that, taken to its extreme, my opinion can indeed fall into the “no true Scotsman” problem, and as I sit here typing this comment, I am having trouble reconciling my previous assertions with that recognition in a coherent manner.

    All I can say is that I do “believe” that there are certain people that use the trappings of Christianity to justify their very un-Christian behavior (not unChristian-like but absolutely unChristian). While there is a lot of room in the definition of what is and what is not Christianity and Christian behavior, I cannot accept people who, for example, preach hatred and bigotry as their fundamental belief structure as ‘Christians’. Preaching hate is not unChristian-like, it is unChristian period, and as I pointed out in my earlier comment, it is unIslamic, unJewish, unJainish, unHindu, unVirtuallyAnyReligionYouWantToName.

    Of course, my acceptance or rejection of anybody as Christian or not has no bearing on anything or anyone outside my own head.

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    Publius September 14, 2013 at 2:40 am #

    misha marinsky: No kingdom has shed more blood than the kingdom of Christ. – Charles de Montesquieu

    I find that quote both false and offensive.

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    misha marinsky September 14, 2013 at 4:27 am #

    Publius: I find that quote both false and offensive.

    From Time magazine:

    http://science.time.com/2013/09/13/yom-kippur-germany-and-the-moral-do-over/

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    Dr. Conspiracy September 14, 2013 at 8:54 am #

    Wars are mostly over land and resources.

    misha marinsky: No kingdom has shed more blood than the kingdom of Christ. – Charles de Montesquieu

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    Publius September 14, 2013 at 9:41 am #

    misha marinsky: From Time magazine:

    http://science.time.com/2013/09/13/yom-kippur-germany-and-the-moral-do-over/

    I have no idea what your point is. The quote is both false and offensive.

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    Publius September 14, 2013 at 9:46 am #

    And if you’re trying to say that Hitler was doing what he was doing on behalf of the “kingdom of Christ,” the claim is simply false.

    All it takes is a brief look at wikipedia for some documentation of the falsity of the claim:

    Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that Hitler’s post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany. Various scholars consider Hitler’s final religious position to be one of deism. Some have used the terminology that he did not “believe in God”, others that he was “atheist”. The question is debated. During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various comments against atheistic (ie “Bolshevik”) movements, and in favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy). In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that he never formally left the Church).

    The quote remains both false and offensive.

  171. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 14, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    OK guys, the referee is calling foul here for an off topic violation. I had taken “Hitler” off the moderation keyword list because the term wasn’t being abused, but this is exactly the kind of discussion that goes on interminably and gets heated and is not what this web site is about.

    I got hung up in this discussion years ago on USENET and I know where it goes. If anyone is interested, here is the article I wrote on the topic way back then. However, if you want to discuss it, find someplace else.

    http://www.davnet.org/kevin/essays/hitler.html

    Publius: And if you’re trying to say that Hitler was doing what he was doing on behalf of the “kingdom of Christ,” the claim is simply false.

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    Publius September 14, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    That’s a good essay.

    It is my understanding that the poster of the quote is Jewish. Assuming I’m correct in that understanding, I find it ironic that he seems to be engaging in the same kind of behavior that has at some points in history been directed against those of his own faith: Pick a religion not your own, and attempt to characterize it as the source of all the world’s ills.

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    Rickey September 14, 2013 at 1:24 pm #

    I’m wondering how Nate Wessler feels about being called the head of the “ACLU’s Targeted Assassinations team.”

    https://www.aclu.org/blog/author/nathan-freed-wessler

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    G September 15, 2013 at 1:05 am #

    Yes, that was a really good essay and interesting reading. I found the Conclusion, in its entirety, to be an excellent summary and rational conclusion of the findings:

    Conclusions

    It is an established historical fact that Hitler was baptized a Roman Catholic and confirmed at age 15, and that Hitler never formally and publicly left the Catholic Church.

    Hitler considered himself religious, but had only contempt for organized religion and the teachings of the church about Jesus. Hitler had his own private view of Jesus, that of an economic revolutionary and Jew hater. So in some twisted sense Hitler thought he was acting in the tradition of Jesus. If the question is, “can someone read the New Testament and then go off and do horribly bad things?” then the answer is yes. If the question is “was Hitler in the tradition of mainstream Christianity” then the answer is no.

    The problem of saying “Hitler was a Christian” when by “Christian” is meant something totally different from normal usage and historical context, is that the sentence ceases to mean anything. One might as well have said “Hitler was a Zorb” because the last word is meaningless. The only “value” in saying “Hitler was a Christian” with an iconoclastic meaning for “Christian” is as a tool of anti-Christian propaganda towards the end of misleading people.

    Thanks for sharing that, Doc!

    Publius:
    That’s a good essay.

    It is my understanding that the poster of the quote is Jewish. Assuming I’m correct in that understanding, I find it ironic that he seems to be engaging in the same kind of behavior that has at some points in history been directed against those of his own faith: Pick a religion not your own, and attempt to characterize it as the source of all the world’s ills.

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    Monkey Boy September 16, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    Kiwiwriter: What would Jesus say about your little quote there…a speaker for Christ descending into the gutter to insult others about competitive masturbation. Do you think the Pope would talk that way? Bishop Fulton Sheen? Billy Graham? Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? Well, Jimmy Swaggart and Jimmy Bakker might, but they both apologized, in tears, for that behavior.

    You are a shame unto the Lord and a disgrace to Christianity!

    I know disciples of Christ, and Mr. Powell, you are no Christian.

  176. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 16, 2013 at 10:03 pm #

    or something like, I know Jesus. Jesus is a friend of mine…

    Monkey Boy: I know disciples of Christ, and Mr. Powell, you are no Christian.

  177. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 16, 2013 at 10:07 pm #

    Stop posting Zullo property records on this blog or you will be put in moderation.