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Rep. Stockman on board birther ship, says Zullo

“This is not a political agenda for us”

Zullo and Gallups were on Mike Volin’s Blog Talk Radio show this past Thursday (Oct. 3, 2013). Zullo asserts that Congressman Steve Stockman is definitely going to move forward to get a Congressional investigation into Obama’s identity documents. That’s the spin the birthers are putting on this. Another possible interpretation is that some low-level Stockman functionary is failing to say “hell no” loudly enough.

Zullo rewrites history when he says that from the beginning he was saying that the issue of Obama’s eligibility belonged with Congress. If that was the case, then what does the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have to do with it? Why the use of the words “law enforcement” at every turn? Now the issue is for Congress, and that’s where the Cold Case Posse’s lobbying efforts are directed, contradicting his statement in the audio clip that “this is not a political agenda for us.”

Wiley Drake (one of the birther plaintiffs) was also a guest on the show (or maybe Volin’s show was a guest on Drake’s show—it was complicated).

Here’s a link to the full show (2 hours) on Blog Talk Radio and here’s an excerpt below where Zullo talks about Stockman:

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33 Responses to Rep. Stockman on board birther ship, says Zullo

  1. avatar
    Monkey Boy October 6, 2013 at 5:12 am #

    There was a fake cop called Zullo.
    Whose whole purpose was to fling poo.
    Birther dopes caught on,
    so he could only moan:
    “Have faith, I’m not trying to fool you!”

  2. avatar
    Monkey Boy October 6, 2013 at 5:28 am #

    Wow! Sharon Rondeau pimping her defamatory rag, Supreme CommanderZullo BSing the faithful, unctous Gallups hawking his pubs and shaking the tin cup, bombastic Drake dick waving, and the singularly inarticulate Violin hawking his “Sheriffs’ kits.”

    Such a collection of phonies, charlatans, scammers and BSers, probably hasn’t been seen in one place since Fagin assembled his posse.

  3. avatar
    Bob October 6, 2013 at 9:07 am #

    “This is not a political agenda for us”
    ~Zullo

    I have to assume this is true because Birthers have never gained anything politically from Birtherism. Some (Corsi, Klayman) have made a little money but there are more dignified ways of going about that (actually nothing less dignified comes to mind). Perhaps it’s a form of OCD.

  4. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 6, 2013 at 9:20 am #

    On the Carl Gallups front, he accused the Pope of blasphemy on his Friday show.

  5. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    Every time Zullo or Gallups pimps someone as the next “great white hope” of the birther movement, they’re always left high and dry when said hope leaves ’em hanging!
    I think someone should call in on next week’s show and ask “What ever happened to…”,
    and then list all the so-called allies and VIPS who left them in the dust.

  6. avatar
    alg October 6, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    Hmmmmm…..if Stockman is “on board” why do his website, facebook page and twitter account say absolutely nothing about Obama’s “forged” LFBC?!?

    Now as for rewriting history, Sheriff Arpaio did say in July of 2012 he was finished with this and it was now up to Congress. He said that after being spurned by the Maricopa County Prosecutor and the Arizona State Attorney General.

    Since then, of course, Zullo has been entirely on his own and the good Sheriff has remained absolutely silent on the subject, except when he was confronted with embarrassing questions about the Cold Case Posse not filing its tax returns.

  7. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2013 at 10:47 am #

    Arpaio is gonna say even less, now that he’s being monitored. Actually, I’d love to ask him how the birthering is going. Just to watch him sweat. Course it might be hard to tell which sweat is which…

  8. avatar
    Arthur October 6, 2013 at 11:11 am #

    After listening to Zullo, it’s clear that he carefully avoids saying that Stockman has agreed to do anything for the birthers. For example, Zullo claims he’s communicating with a person who has a connection to Stockman’s office, but he doesn’t give the person’s name; moreover, his words reveal that this person is not actually a member of Stockman’s staff, and is operating as some kind of go-between. He goes on to claim that this unidentified go-between has assured Zullo that “Stockman is very much involved; very much on board” but he doesn’t definitely say what Stockman is on board about. He then takes refuge in a “timing issue,” claiming that he has been told by his go-between that Stockman’s office said, “it’s going to take longer than we originally anticipated.”

    Birthers: eating money and spewing bull since 2008.

  9. avatar
    Arthur October 6, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    alg: Hmmmmm…..if Stockman is “on board” why do his website, facebook page and twitter account say absolutely nothing about Obama’s “forged” LFBC?!?

    Come on, alg! Zullo said it’s all a matter of timing. In other words, you don’t simply walk into Mordor, and you don’t simply walk into the White House and arrest Ofraudster! You wait, you wait until he’s out of office, you wait until, say, 2017, and then, when he least expects it–you pounce! Of course, you’ll probably be shot by a Secret Service agent, but that’s beside the point. The important thing is the waiting, the stalling, the blabbering, the hemming and the hawing. It takes time, man! After all, the faithful aren’t going to bilk themselves.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2013 at 11:29 am #

    Arthur: Come on, alg! Zullo said it’s all a matter of timing. In other words, you don’t simply walk into Mordor, and you don’t simply walk into the White House and arrest Ofraudster! You wait, you wait until he’s out of office, you wait until, say, 2017, and then, when he least expects it–you pounce! Of course, you’ll probably be shot by a Secret Service agent, but that’s beside the point. The important thing is the waiting, the stalling, the blabbering, the hemming and the hawing. It takes time, man! After all, the faithful aren’t going to bilk themselves.

    You’d think that there’d be a law against taking financial advantage of the mentally feeble, but maybe that doesn’t apply to the willfully mentally feeble.

  11. avatar
    Curious George October 6, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

    “This is not a political agenda for us”

    For some it may not have been a political agenda. People may have had questions about the birth certificate based on Corsi’s book or based on what they couldn’t understand when they looked at the PDF copy. For others it has been a political agenda. It’s obvious that Captain Z has a direction mapped out because he has surrounded himself with Birthers, Reed Hayes being the lone exception. We have no idea what’s in Hayes’ report. More evidence that the investigation is agenda driven is Camp Director Z refused to accept the state of Hawaii’s Verification of Birth as valid. I believe Zullo refers to it as “Non-Verification Verification” quickly dismissing that the Hawaii DOH verifies all of the information contained on the White House displayed PDF. The Arizona Secretary of State considered the Verification of Birth valid, while Corporal Z ignores the evidence. The Verification of Birth puts an end to the investigation only if the investigation is not agenda driven. Obviously something else is at work here and it doesn’t appear to be the truth.

    I haven’t wasted 2 hours of my time listening to more of this carnival act. The investigation is nothing more than agenda driven political propaganda contrary to the CCCP Articles of Incorporation as a public charity. Head Librarian Z should pull the plug on what looks more and more to be a poltical agenda driven sham.

  12. avatar
    gorefan October 6, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

    Carl Gallups did a short follow up to the Mike Volin’s Blog Talk Radio show on his Freedom Friday show. After the litany of excuses as to why they can’t get anything done, he explains that absolutely, positively Congressman Stockman is going to be doing something about something. But he also says that they have made some stupendously amazing discoveries of the connections between Obamabots and Hawaii and Washington DC – high ranking people are involved. And almost immediately he qualifies it with if Stockman does nothing then they are going to make everything public.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJeKvnm018

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    CarlOrcas October 6, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    alg: Hmmmmm…..if Stockman is “on board” why do his website, facebook page and twitter account say absolutely nothing about Obama’s “forged” LFBC?!?

    Bingo!! The notion that a first term member is going to force anything to happen in the House is just laughable. Kinda like most things in Birtherstan.

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    RanTalbott October 6, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: You’d think that there’d be a law against taking financial advantage of the mentally feeble

    http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/02310.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

    And, there’s a special one for people who do it in conjunction with government activity:

    http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/02311.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

    As I’ve said before, I (in the immortal words of Sheriff Joe) “believe probable cause exists” to charge the CCP with fraud. The “coding” video is irrefutable proof of false statements (even if you concede they were mistaken about which coding standards to use, they misrepresented them right in the video). Zullo’s current claim that it’s always been about getting to Congress means that the past claims of running “an official criminal investigation” are lies (as do the facts that they haven’t logged their “evidence” and that Zullo claims that it’s his “personal property”). The fact that their charter prohibits their engaging in political activities means that they’ve been soliciting donations under false pretenses.

    It cn also be argued that a “reasonable person” would know that their claims about “100% proven” fraud and forgery are nonsense, given what they’ve been told by their own County Attorney and at least one other lawyer.

    The fact that they’ve been encouraging others to lobby Congress may also be a violation of federal laws regulating non-profits.

    And there are other false claims that a real “official criminal investigation” would turn up.

    It’s certainly possible that the Maricopa County Attorney wouldn’t want to touch the case because he needs to be able to work with the MCSO to prosecute other crimes. And it’s likely that Horne won’t take it up because of his gubernatorial aspirations. but Zullo likes to brag about travelling all over the country, so there are other jurisdictions where he could be charged.

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    RanTalbott October 6, 2013 at 1:26 pm #

    CarlOrcas: The notion that a first term member is going to force anything to happen in the House is just laughable

    Actually, it’s his second term. Or maybe his “second first term”. 😉

    I was wondering what sort of Congresscritter would openly sign on with Corporal Zullo, so I googled him, and this was one of the first results that popped up:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/steve-stockman-nuttiest-freshman-congress-again

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    CarlOrcas October 6, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    RanTalbott: Actually, it’s his second term. Or maybe his “second first term”.

    I was wondering what sort of Congresscritter would openly sign on with Corporal Zullo, so I googled him, and this was one of the first results that popped up:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/steve-stockman-nuttiest-freshman-congress-again

    Yes, even if his first tour of duty counts in some way he’s still so junior that he isn’t going to make anything happen. He can, and will, waste a lot of time and energy filling up the hopper with nonsense legislation that will go nowhere. The man is a fool.

  17. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater October 6, 2013 at 2:26 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Every time Zullo or Gallups pimps someone as the next “great white hope” of the birther movement, they’re always left high and dry when said hope leaves ‘em hanging!
    I think someone should call in on next week’s show and ask “What ever happened to…”,
    and then list all the so-called allies and VIPS who left them in the dust.

    If you noticed Gallups claimed the Missouri Sheriff’s conference was the VIPs. Previously Zullo claimed that they weren’t the VIPs they had all been talking about. In other words they lied again.

    I think the funniest moment was when Wiley Drake called Miki Booth an International Journalist

  18. avatar
    Rickey October 6, 2013 at 3:09 pm #

    This is a list of Stockman’s committee assignments. None of them have any relevance to Obama’s eligibility.

    1. House Committee on Banking and Financial Services and its Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations

    2. House Committee on Science and its Subcommittees on Energy and Environment

    Even if Stockman has gone full birther, he is no position to initiate an investigation.

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    JPotter October 6, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    “this is not a political agenda for us.”

    BWHAHAHA! Good to know this has nothing, repeat nothing, to do with O’s political affiliation. The same honest* people would have asked the same hard* questions had O been competing with McCain for that other party’s nomination back in ’08. And, were O to suddenly switch affiliations and agendas while in office (wouldn’t that be a hoot?), the same honest* people would remain doggedly on the case.

    Dr. Conspiracy: On the Carl Gallups front, he accused the Pope of blasphemy on his Friday show.

    Pope-bashing is standard in good old Real ‘Merican old-time religion. Used to hear it every Sunday, like clockwork. Goes right back through the colonies to “Merry” Old England.

    ___________

    * “Cough, cough.”

  20. avatar
    Thinker October 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm #

    Obviously, there isn’t a chance in hell that Stockman will convince Congress to conduct an investigation into birther nonsense. It would be hilarious and birther heads would explode when they see their fake experts and real lunatics getting skewered by Democrats and Republicans alike, but it’s not going to happen.

    However, I could imagine Stockman doing a stunt like sending a letter to the White House or maybe the Governor of Hawaii asking them to allow a forensic document examiner of the original 1961 birth certificate or something similarly stupid.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 6, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    On the Carl Gallups front, he accused the Pope of blasphemy on his Friday show.

    Right-wingers are pretty well okay with bashing the new Pope, mainly because he’s not the cookie-cutter bigot they wanted him to be. “A Pope who is actually trying to echo Christ’s teachings? We can’t have that now, can we?!”

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    mrheuss October 6, 2013 at 8:40 pm #

    I think you underestimate the ability of a birther to fabricate something out of whole cloth. Given the committees you list, I can gather that an enterprising birther could get the ball rolling on either the two following points.

    1. He and his fellow birthers are BANKING on obama being born in kenya. If that was true, letting him keep the presidency would be a fairly large OVERSIGHT.

    2. And since it would take a lot of ENERGY to forge a birth certificate and ruin the natural born ENVIRONMENT of the presidency, an investigation might be necessary.

    It makes just as much sense as most of the other justifications advanced….

    Rickey:
    This is a list of Stockman’s committee assignments. None of them have any relevance to Obama’s eligibility.

    1. House Committee on Banking and Financial Services and its Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations

    2. House Committee on Science and its Subcommittees on Energy and Environment

    Even if Stockman has gone full birther, he is no position to initiate an investigation.

  23. avatar
    ZixiOfIx October 7, 2013 at 1:29 am #

    alg:
    Hmmmmm…..if Stockman is “on board” why do his website, facebook page and twitter account say absolutely nothing about Obama’s “forged” LFBC?!?

    People should pepper his website, Facebook & Twitter until they get a definitive answer.

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    The Magic M October 7, 2013 at 4:16 am #

    gorefan: But he also says that they have made some stupendously amazing discoveries of the connections between Obamabots and Hawaii and Washington DC – high ranking people are involved

    It’s probably the old “member X of Fogbow is also an Obama attorney” litany.

    Thinker: However, I could imagine Stockman doing a stunt like sending a letter to the White House or maybe the Governor of Hawaii asking them to allow a forensic document examiner of the original 1961 birth certificate or something similarly stupid.

    Birther headline: “Shock: Congress demands birth certificate from Hawaii?”

    JPotter: And, were O to suddenly switch affiliations and agendas while in office (wouldn’t that be a hoot?), the same honest* people would remain doggedly on the case.

    Likely since he cannot change the colour of his skin (I wonder if birthers would’ve accepted a Republican Michael Jackson…).

  25. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 7, 2013 at 4:57 pm #

    Stockman’s web site says that he only answers emails from his constituents. If any of my readers lives in his district, would you drop him an email and ask if he is planning an investigation of Obama’s birth certificate? The contact form is here:

    https://stockman.house.gov/contact/email-me

    I asked him on Twitter @SteveWorks4You

  26. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    If I could shoot an email to Stockman, it would be to ask him why he hasn’t invented something to destroy those blasted TURTLES yet!!!

  27. avatar
    JPotter October 7, 2013 at 9:10 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Stockman’s web site says that he only answers emails from his constituents.

    LOL! Which he verifies how? Does he keep Orly’s Magic IP Lookup Squad on retainer?

    This is a standard ploy that reads, “[Politician] only supplies stock replies to standard friendly, or at worst neutral, inquiries. And by [politician], we mean his/her staff does it for him/her.”

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    Benji Franklin October 7, 2013 at 10:22 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Stockman’s web site says that he only answers emails from his constituents. If any of my readers lives in his district, would you drop him an email and ask if he is planning an investigation of Obama’s birth certificate?

    If Stockman is planning a Congressional Investigation of an alleged Obama fraudulent birth certificate, it’s going to be as legitimate as the Birthers’ crank CCP “Sheriff’s Office investigation” was. That means any such “full” Congressional Investigation version will take place in Stockman’s bed under the covers, with Carl Gallups and Field Marshall Mike Zullo taking turns holding the big flashlight.

  29. avatar
    RanTalbott October 8, 2013 at 4:04 am #

    We’ve been talking in the context of formal committee hearings, but I vaguely recall a Daily Show segment from several years back. Stewart was mocking some Democrats because they, as the minority, couldn’t force a “real” hearing, so they booked a room and held a “psuedo-hearing”, and screwed up the logistics so it became comedy fodder. I believe the Republicans did something similar, with fake floor debates and hearings while the House was in recess to promote an energy (??) bill.

    Could Stockman and a couple of allied Congresscritters use similar tactics to give the birthers the _illusion_ of Congressional hearings? $DEITY knows they’ve enthusiastically embraced fake “evidence” from a fake “law enforcement organization” and its fake “experts”, so maybe Stockman and the CCP could run another con to keep the publicity and donations flowing a little longer.

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    Curious George October 8, 2013 at 9:37 am #

    JPotter: LOL! Which he verifies how? Does he keep Orly’s Magic IP Lookup Squad on retainer?

    This is a standard ploy that reads, “[Politician] only supplies stock replies to standard friendly, or at worst neutral, inquiries. And by [politician], we mean his/her staff does it for him/her.”

    The email contact forms that I’ve used in the past asks for a Zip code. A Zip code out of the district prevents the contact.

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    The Magic M October 8, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    RanTalbott: Could Stockman and a couple of allied Congresscritters use similar tactics to give the birthers the _illusion_ of Congressional hearings? $DEITY knows they’ve enthusiastically embraced fake “evidence” from a fake “law enforcement organization” and its fake “experts”

    They love back room Grand Juries, so why wouldn’t they love faux Congress hearings?

    But I don’t think Stockman will taint himself that much. He’s a panderer, not a believer. He’s a politician, and he knows playing to the base gets him votes, but going down the rabbit hole gets him taitzified.

    Also, I don’t buy the claims he has “allied Congresscritters” who would openly support birtherism. The entire “30 to 40 Congress members believe Obama illegitimate” story is crap from the get-go. I think it started as “30 to 40 … think he should be impeached because …” but had nothing to do with birtherism. Only birthers changed the story to dream up their next OMG moment.

    Let’s try another conspiracy theory:
    Birthers => Tea Party => shutdown => Ted Cruz becomes hero => Ted Cruz runs for Prez in 2016 => Ted Cruz is found ineligible => Obama is found ineligible by the same standards => VICTORY 😉

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    JPotter October 8, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    Curious George: The email contact forms that I’ve used in the past asks for a Zip code.A Zip code out of the district prevents the contact.

    Well, dang, absolutely foolproof 😉

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    justlw October 9, 2013 at 1:22 am #

    At one point I wound up on the mailing list for the representative of New York’s 18th Congressional District — not incredibly useful for California me. The unsubscribe link took me to their web site, which refused to deal with me unless I could prove I lived in NY-18 — even to unsubscribe.

    So, clever person that I am, I looked up a ZIP code for the district, and put it in…

    “Your zip code is split between more that one Congressional District. To determine your district you must enter in the Zip+4.”