Mr. Reilly’s responses are in underlined bold italics.
Dr. Conspiracy:”Section 11-410. Use of county resources or employees to influence elections; prohibitions
A. A county shall not use its personnel, equipment, materials, buildings or other resources for the purpose of influencing the outcomes of elections. Notwithstanding this section, a county may distribute informational reports on a proposed bond election as provided in § 35-454. Nothing in this section precludes a county from reporting on official actions of the county board of supervisors.”
“The investigation of Barack Obama’s birth certificate IN MARICOPA COUNTY could have been nothing else but politically motivated.”
According to my Posse training at an MCSO “Ethics” class, I was told repeatedly that I, as an unpaid volunteer, was considered an “employee” of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
It became very clear to me that this “investigation” had apparently become a political operation to influence the November, 2012 presidential election. At one point Zullo remarked about how the investigation influencing just “5%” of the voters could impact the outcome of the 2012 election. Denise and I were both told by Zullo the “investigation” would be over by November, 2012.
It is also my opinion, Commander Zullo, as a Maricopa County employee of the Cold Case Posse, played a crucial political part in the effort to defeat Respect Arizona‘s, recall Arpaio effort. Zullo met on February 4, 2013, at approximately 9:10 A.M. with leaders of the Surprise Tea Party Patriots, just days before the same STPP leaders became organizers of CPFER (Citizens to Protect Fair Election Results, L.L.C.) and signed organizing documents on February 7, 2013 and then filed those documents, February 8, 2013 with the Arizona Corporations Commission. (File # L1822902-3 http://www.cc.state.az.us/ )
CPFER was the organization that was created to resist the Sheriff Arpaio recall effort. CPFER’s legal council was none other than Mr. Larry Klayman. Mr. Klayman is also the attorney who apparently prepared and is utilizing Commander Mike Zullo’s Alabama Supreme Court “hearsay” affidavit in the McInnish Appeal of CV 2012-1053.
Members of the Surprise Tea Party Patriots, the Maricopa County GOP and the Arpaio campaign became the foot soldiers for Arpaio’s anti-recall “Shadow Army.” The “Shadow Army” was utilized to “shadow” Arpaio recall petition solicitors out in the field. The recall effort failed due to a lack of sufficient recall signatures gathered by solicitors.
Once again thanks for your time and candor. As you might suspect your answers have prompted more questions:
First, as a result of your postings here have you heard from, or gotten any questions from anyone at the MCSO, the Board of Supervisors or County Administration? Do you know if they are aware of what you are doing? No & Unknown
Again, your answers from the previous message are in bold and my new questions follow:
Do you know how many cars the Cold Case Posse owned? I was aware of three vehicles, and possibly a fourth vehicle. Were they equipped with any police equipment: MCSO radio? Yes. Siren? Yes. Emergency lights? Yes.
Do you know who those vehicles were assigned to? No, Were they, like yours, full time assignments? Unknown I forgot to ask but were there restrictions on when you could use the vehicle? I only used the vehicle for Cold Case Posse business.
As far as the police equipment is concerned: Did you have an MCSO call sign or radio ID? Yes What did you use the radio for? I didn’t use the radio. It was in the trunk on top of the spare tire and the radio didn’t work. I had no radio for the entire time I was with the Cold Case Posse. Did you check on and off duty, in and out of your car? No What channel did you use? None Were you ever dispatched on any calls. No
What were you told about using the lights and siren? I could only use the lights and siren if instructed by a deputy. What were the rules on on-view situations? I assume you were told you couldn’t make traffic stops? How about responding to emergency calls or officer needs help calls? I was not to get involved in any situations.
It strikes me that Zullo can’t have it both ways. Did he explain to you how he felt it was “his work product”? He told me it was his work product and he did not have to release anything to Arpaio.
I’m speechless. Join the crowd.
Did the posse have an attorney? I was aware of one CCP member who was an attorney. If so, did he/she approve the ownership situation? I saw a letter, but I‘d prefer not to comment about the content.
As far as the “investigation” is concerned did either Zullo or Arpaio explain how a private entity was going to be able to conduct an “investigation” that one of its founders would own? No. Along the same line of thought, once I became aware of the publication of the first Zullo, Corsi e-book with an introduction by Sheriff Arpaio I was absolutely irate.
And what was their response? I kept my disgust and anger about Zullo’s book to myself. Zullo had told me to use my email list to publicize his book. I refused to do it.
One last question along this line: Did any of them explain how this information could subsequently be used in a criminal prosecution….if it got that far? No. As I have written before, according to Maricopa County Attorney, William Montgomery, the Cold Case Posse “evidence” was only “speculation.” And, he also said he had no jurisdiction. I learned this after I resigned.
“Now…..as far as your thoughts on improper political activity are concerned I think you’re [Dr. C.] on to something but, unfortunately, Arizona history is just full of this stuff…..particularly on the part of county officials.” See the beginning of the answers above.
My questions has to do with personal use of the CCP vehicles. Were posse members who were given CCP vehicles required to reimburse the CCP for personal miles? I did not use the vehicle for personal use. Were they allowed to bring the vehicles home? I kept mine parked at home when not in use for Posse business.
I was hoping you could shed some light on the idea that both Arpaio and Zullo claimed that they were hoping to clear President Obama with their investigation yet the only person who Zullo spoke to for over a dozen hours was a known birther, Jerome Corsi.
It was my suggestion that Zullo start with Corsi. He made many claims in his book and they needed to be looked at. If it really was a legitimate investigation, Zullo would have uncovered the bias.
If you’re starting a real investigation, why would you start with such a biased source, using birthers to determine the legitimacy of the birth certificate despite their having no such training or experience? All sources should have been reviewed. Did Zullo ever mention the fact that Corsi dismissed the opinions of actual experts whose opinion regarding the LFBC was not the same as his? I’m only aware of Zullo’s dismissal of Mr. Woodman and his book.
Just for the record I’d like to defend the folks who donate their time to the posses…..again, especially search and rescue and the community posses. None of them get any money from their posse. Their records are open and transparent. Unlike the records of the Cold Case Posse.
Given Mr. Reilly’s recent advices to this site regarding the chronology of his epiphany, perhaps what should be of more interest re the Reilly/Montgomery correspondence is why Mr. Reilly was apparently still writing to DA Montgomery in September 2012 about criminal “charges” which might be brought against Obama and about whether Obama could be considered a ‘natural born citizen’ when, according to Mr. Reilly’s recent revelations on here the May 2012 letter of verification from Hawaii had already ended Mr. Reilly’s concerns as to the matter of whether Obama was eligible some 4 months before that correspondence.
Is it his suggestion that he was only writing to Montgomery as part of an effort to try to convince others that the matter was a dead duck? Or, while wearing his Tea Party hat instead of his Posse hat, was he still actually birthing at that time?
To this day, I would encourage birthers and anti-birthers to request that Zullo release all of his “evidence” to the proper authorities, for review. In other words, it’s time to call Zullo’s and Arpaio’s bluff. Request that Arpaio file a criminal complaint. Request that he take their evidence to Congress. Request that they take their evidence to the FBI. Request that they release the Reed Hayes’ report for review. The more that people see that this “investigation” continues, in spite of Zullo’s and Gallup’s claimed evidence of a “100% forgery,” with NO action taken, the more people will hopefully wakeup to the political theater. In my opinion, the CCP has no legitimate “court ready” evidence other than the Verification of Birth from the Hawaii Department of Health, which they have apparently chosen to ignore since May of 2012.
Afterword by Dr. Conspiracy.
Reference has been made to ethics training. The County Ethics Manual is available online. It seems to make a clear distinction between volunteers and employees (mentioning the posses not at all) and we have learned that attempts to use the Arizona Open Records statute to obtain information about the posses failed in the courts because posse members were not public employees. I don’t doubt that Mr. Reilly was told otherwise, but it looks like he was told wrong.