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Why did Bruce Steadman give Lucas Daniel Smith $5,800?

and was it a good investment?

In an timing error almost as monumental as that of the release of Jerome Corsi’s Where’s the Birth Certificate?, Lucas Daniel Smith misses April Fools by a scant 3 days with his latest article: “Lucas Daniel Smith arrested (2014) for extradition to Kenya.”

Smith wrote:

On or about the 4th day of February 2014 while I was physically present in the Dominican Republic, the National Police (Policia Nacional) raided my home in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic with an arrest warrant for extradition to Kenya on criminal charges of allegedly bribing government officials in Kenya.

Smith claims to be in the Dominican Republic, free on 250,000 Dominican Pesos (about $5,800) bond, the money provided by birther Bruce Steadman. Smith, known for his documents, provides an image of a complaint (“acta de denuncia”) in Spanish.

Research questions:

  1. Does the Dominican Republic have an extradition treaty with Kenya?
  2. Is the “acta de denuncia” authentic?
  3. Has Bruce Stedman been conned out of $5,800?

I’m still checking on the matter of the extradition treaty. So far I have not found any bilateral treaty between the Dominican Republic and Kenya. The Dominican Republic has an extradition treaty with the contiguous with Kenya, Commonwealth countries, the United States, Italy, Finland, Greece, Poland, Spain, Peru, Germany and perhaps some others, but if Smith had been sought by Kenya, one would have though that they would be looking in the US, and one wonders how they would have found him in the Dominican Republic. See also, “Foreigners under Dominican Criminal Law.”

Persons familiar with the Spanish language, commenting on the Internet and on this blog say, that the document is riddled with errors, and not written by a native speaker of Spanish.

imageWhen Steadman (pictured right) appears on the Internet, it is often in conjunction with Smith. Steadman is the purchaser of Smith’s painting, “Orly Taitz and her Exhibits” for $350. Sam Sewell at The Steady Drip exhibits the “Declaration of Theresa S. Cao” saying that Steadman had paid Smith $3,000 to cover expenses in the 2010 “Letters to Congress” project. So here, allegedly, Steadman has given Smith another big chunk of change. Steadman had a canned comment that he posted on several Internet sites towards the end of 2011 into 2012, promoting Lucas Smith’s web site and the Lucas Smith Kenyan birth certificate (POSFKBC). Steadman posts as bsteadman on Smith’s blog.1

Birther Report has a big article copying Smith’s own narrative of his latest escapade. Of course, the birther story up until now is that everything to do with Obama’s alleged documents in Kenya is “top secret” and the last thing the Kenyan government would be doing is to go after Smith in public, but consistency of narrative has never been a strong point of birthers. It would be nice, though, if Smith were extradited to Kenya to face charges that he faked official documents, but I don’t think we will get rid of Smith that easily.

Update:

Smith obliquely responds to the above in another article, “Extradition to Kenya: Barack Obama startled by sudden discovery of Russell Leslie Oppenheim’s 1963 Kenyan birth certificate,” writing:

It should also be noted that Dr. Conspiracy [creepy stalking stuff redacted] refuses to take notice of and acknowledge, and intentionally disregards,  the Russell Leslie Oppenheim document….

What Smith fails to understand is that I don’t read his blog, and unless someone points out something to me that he says (or this case a reference appears in my Twitter feed) I’d never know about something appearing on his blog, and that includes the alleged Oppenheim birth certificate. This new document, which looks very much like the Smith’s Obama certificate, is either authentic, or it is designed to address some of the obvious flaws in Smith’s earlier forgery essay: the full birth date of the father is given and all of the dates are in the correct DD/MM/YYYY format (in contrast to the USA date format on the fake Kenyan certificate for Obama and just a year of birth for Obama Sr.).

This from Smith’s Oppenheim certificate:

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and this from Smith’s Obama certificate:

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(In the Obama certificate, the date of birth is August 4, which precludes reading the second date as July 8. It has to be August 7.) One can only speculate about the reason for Smith to publish such an obvious contradiction, but to this observer it would seem to be an attempt to engage folks in a battle of “debunk me if you can,” an activity Smith seems to enjoy.

Smith goes on to attempt to refute the objections made on the Internet to his Dominican Republic extradition complaint document. He obviously put quite a bit of effort into that attempt.

Update 2

For the benefit of those who do not speak Spanish (and I am one of them), I ran Smith’s document through Google translate and included the results (slightly altered) in a footnote.2

One interesting item is that the extradition request allegedly comes from the Kenyan National Intelligence Service, which seems odd to me, but would be in line with a series of other fake documents that have appeared attributed to that source, and perhaps Smith is trying to hitch a ride on that narrative. I looked at the Wikipedia article that explains the mission of the Kenyan National Intelligence Service, and it seems to have no role in the prosecution of crimes or extradition. According to an article at The Standard (Kenya), all extraditions are handled by the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions. They write:

Article 157 of the Constitution, establishes the Office of Director of Public Prosecutions. The DPP has the power to direct the Inspector General of Police to investigate any information or allegation of criminal conduct including those that may lead to a request for extradition through diplomatic channels.

Whenever an extradition request is received the DPP is the one to commence proceedings for extradition orders. In commencing the extradition proceedings, the DPP exercises his constitutional powers under Article 157.

Also note that bit about “diplomatic channels.” The Smith document is Intelligence Service to National Police—no diplomatic channel anywhere. Similarly the laws of the Dominican Republic are not consistent with an extradition request from a foreign country to the National Police.  Ley No. 489 sobre Extradición en la República Dominicana deals with extradition, and the relevant Section 6 states (in translation):

Section 6 -. Any request for extradition, as emanating from the Dominican State or either directed to it, shall be processed through the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

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1In one of those pervasive examples of coincidence, the first instance of the Steadman stock comment I know of appears on the WTPOTUS blog, and it is immediately followed by one from “Miri.” Miri is one of two other people on the Internet that I have been able to find that have posted photos linked to the BadKarmaRoundUp Photobucket account, almost certainly owned by commenter ★FALCON★ at Birther Report.

2Google Translate text:

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
CHIEF OF POLICE
CENTRAL DIRECTOR OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, PN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS
RESEARCH DEPARTMENT OF CRIMES. AND CRIMES. AGAINST THE PROPERTY PALACE
POLICE
ALL FOR THE NATION
SANTO DOMINGO, D. N.
RECORD OF COMPLAINT

In the city of Santo Domingo Dominican Republic, being 11:25 hours on 01/28/2014, 169 year of Independence and 150 of the Restoration, meeting in our office, PN located on the First Floor of the Palace, PN and in the lawful exercise of my duties as Head of Office of Complaint Investigations Crimes Department, PN by us before, MAYOR LIC. TEODOSO DIFRE SORIANO, P. N. It appeared, MAXIMO NUMOZ WILLIAM DELGADO, National Bureau of Investigation.

SIR:
The reason for my appearance before this office, PN It is the purpose of REPORT, that at about 13:30 PM on 24/01/2014, while I was in my office received a formal request from Kenya National Intelligence Service extradition of a foreign nationality American, Lucas Daniel Smith, Passport No. xxxxxxx,  act of bribing government official of the country Kenya.

After hearing the statements above proceeded to write this record for the purposes of relevant law.

Mr. TEODOSO DIPRE SORIANO
Major, P. N.

Receiving Complaints 809-682-2151 Ext.: 2332

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76 Responses to Why did Bruce Steadman give Lucas Daniel Smith $5,800?

  1. avatar
    Arthur March 29, 2014 at 3:18 am #

    Well look what the cat dragged in: Lucas Smith, who is claiming he was arrested in the Dominican Republic because the Kenyan government is trying to extradite him to face charges of bribery!

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/03/breaking-person-with-obamas-alleged.html

  2. avatar
    Rickey March 29, 2014 at 4:35 am #

    Arthur:
    Well look what the cat dragged in: Lucas Smith, who is claiming he was arrested in the Dominican Republic because the Kenyan government is trying to extradite him to face charges of bribery!

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/03/breaking-person-with-obamas-alleged.html

    Lucas is lying again. The Dominican Republic doesn’t have an extradition treaty with Kenya,

    http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/business-guide/2005/8/6/3449/FOREIGNERS-UNDER-DOMINICAN-CRIMINAL-LAW

  3. avatar
    roadburner March 29, 2014 at 5:55 am #

    Arthur:
    Well look what the cat dragged in: Lucas Smith, who is claiming he was arrested in the Dominican Republic because the Kenyan government is trying to extradite him to face charges of bribery!

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/03/breaking-person-with-obamas-alleged.html

    as someone who reads and speaks spanish every day, i can tell you that paper he claims is real was written by someone to whom spanish is a second language, and their first language is english.

    lucas must need some cash for his `defense fund´ obviously

  4. avatar
    roadburner March 29, 2014 at 7:17 am #

    oh, and as a point of interest, the BC lucas claims is a real one to use for control has the british DD/MM/YYYY date format as opposed to the MM/DD/YYYY format on the obama footie.

    so one or the other (if not both) must be false by birfoon reckoning.

  5. avatar
    sef March 29, 2014 at 11:09 am #

    I thought LDS’ home-away-from-home was Dominica, not Dominican Republic.

  6. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2014 at 11:26 am #

    I saw the Prime Minister of Dominica, Eugenia Charles, when she visited the US in 1984, and received an honorary degree from Clemson University. I was part of the stage party at the graduation ceremony and got to talk to the Secret Service guys protecting her.

    sef: I thought LDS’ home-away-from-home was Dominica, not Dominican Republic.

  7. avatar
    alg March 29, 2014 at 11:40 am #

    Well, I don’t know, but if Kenya really wants Smith, I think we should make sure they get him.

    :-)

  8. avatar
    The European March 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

    sef:
    I thought LDS’ home-away-from-home was Dominica, not Dominican Republic.

    Not enough underage girls for Smith in Dominica. And the locals know how to deal with scum like him ….

  9. avatar
    Majority Will March 29, 2014 at 1:07 pm #

    alg:
    Well, I don’t know, but if Kenya really wants Smith, I think we should make sure they get him.

    And keep him . . . here:

    Kamiti Maximum Security Prison, Nairobi.

  10. avatar
    raicha March 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm #

    Random observations:

    Criminal Investigations has its own badge:
    http://pn.gob.do/v2/DICRIM/Default.aspx

    The National Police are not on the first floor of the National Palace. They have their own headquarters on Av. Leopoldo Navarro
    http://pn.gob.do/V2/Default.aspx
    http://pn.gob.do/v2/Transparencia/static/20100901-Contacto.ashx

    The DNI is Dominican homeland security and also deals with organized crime.
    http://www.dni.gov.do/index.html

    The Extradition Unit of the Ministry of Justice handles requests in the Dominican Republic
    http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2014/1/27/50350/US-would-change-extradition-treaty-with-Dominican-Republic-official

    The National Police do not have extensions of 809-682-2151 (the general number) They have their own numbers:
    http://pn.gob.do/v2/principal/novedades/20121009-listado-telefonos-flotas-pn.ashx
    http://pn.gob.do/v2/DICRIM/static/20100901-Contacto.ashx

  11. avatar
    ARNOLD CARL TAPP March 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm #

    >>> MANY THANKS TO BRUCE STEADMAN FOR THE ATTEMPT TO RESCUE LUCAS DANIEL SMITH . WE HAVE FEARED FOR A LONG TIME THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN . MAYBE LUCAS CAN MAKE IT TO THE OTHER END OF THE ISLAND AND AVOID EXTRADITION . ” WE THE PEOPLE ” HAVE FAITH <<<

  12. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2014 at 5:13 pm #

    At what time has anyone publicly expressed a fear that LDS would be extradited to Kenya for bribery?

    [Any further all-caps comments will be deleted. Doc.]

    ARNOLD CARL TAPP: WE HAVE FEARED FOR A LONG TIME THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN .

  13. avatar
    ARNOLD CARL TAPP March 29, 2014 at 5:24 pm #

    >>SOMEONE HAS ASKED A QUESTION ~ PAY ATTENTION TO THE ANSWER . <<<
    BRUCE STEADMAN AND MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THE KENYAN BIRTH DOCUMENT FOR barry soetoro / badrak insane obummer FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS . WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE PIECE OF TOILET PAPER POSTED ONLINE BY THE ILLEGAL MIS-ADMINISTRATION IS A FAKE , FRAUD , FORGERY . WE ALSO ARE TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT THE DOCUMENT OWNED BY LUCAS DANIEL SMITH IS AUTHENTIC . STEADMAN HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN PROVING THE KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS REAL AND THAT IT WILL CAUSE THE INDICTMENT , ARREST AND REMOVAL OF A FOREIGN BORN TRAITOR AND ALL HIS CRONY APPOINTED CZARS . <<<

    [Any further all-caps comments will be deleted. Doc.]

  14. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm #

    You forgot P.S. I AM NOT A CRANK

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

    This guy emails me one or two of his ALL CAPS missives every day.

    Bonsall Obot: You forgot P.S. I AM NOT A CRANK

  16. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 29, 2014 at 5:38 pm #

    You’re a better man than I am, Doc.

  17. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm #

    I didn’t say I read them.

    Bonsall Obot: You’re a better man than I am, Doc.

  18. avatar
    Publius March 29, 2014 at 6:28 pm #

    Apparently there’s at least some money in coming up with a fake POS Kenyan birth certificate.

    At this point I am pretty beyond any sympathy for any fools who get taken by these grifters.

  19. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 29, 2014 at 6:34 pm #

    This is a good time to remind everyone that LDS has never even tried to prove that he’s ever so much as traveled to Kenya, much less bribed anyone, much less that he was provided with the fake POSKBC by anyone but himself. It’s grifters all the way down.

  20. avatar
    Keith March 29, 2014 at 8:27 pm #

    Bonsall Obot:
    This is a good time to remind everyone that LDS has never even tried to prove that he’s ever so much as traveled to Kenya, much less bribed anyone, much less that he was provided with the fake POSKBC by anyone but himself. It’s grifters all the way down.

    Oddly however, he has gone out of his way to prove that he is a pedophile by publishing photos of himself with (supposedly) underage girls..

  21. avatar
    RanTalbott March 29, 2014 at 8:58 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: This is a good time to remind everyone that LDS has never even tried to prove that he’s ever so much as traveled to Kenya, much less bribed anyone

    That’s okay: the Kenyans will prove it.

    Oh, wait: I guess they won’t. Too bad: it would’ve much more wonderfully ironic if he’d beem frog-flown to Kenya because he falsely claimed he’d committed a crime so as to add authenticity to the POSFKBC.

    Otoh, there is something to be said for the irony of him being extradited to the U.S. for bilking Steadman out of bail money for an arrest that didn’t occur, for a crime he didn’t commit, but claimed he did to bolster the crime he did commit, but claims he didn’t.

    Does Steadman have a reputation for being inclined to (not) forgive easily?

  22. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 29, 2014 at 8:59 pm #

    Keith

    …he has gone out of his way to prove that he is a pedophile…

    Well, I doubt he moved to the DR because he’s a baseball fan.

  23. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 29, 2014 at 9:02 pm #

    RanTalbott:

    Does Steadman have a reputation for being inclined to (not) forgive easily?

    That would involve a Birfer admitting error, a heretofore unknown phenomenon.

  24. avatar
    sef March 29, 2014 at 9:11 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    This guy emails me one or two of his ALL CAPS missives every day.

    Must have been scared by e. e. cummings in his youth.

  25. avatar
    Northland10 March 29, 2014 at 9:24 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    This guy emails me one or two of his ALL CAPS missives every day.

    I know the economy has not been great, but you think he could afford a replacement caps lock key. Everywhere he comments, it is all caps. We need some sort of LEED certification for saving caps (and, commas, ORLY).

    I see the Mr. Tapp has David Duke as one of his subscriptions on YouTube. Isn’t that special.

  26. avatar
    Northland10 March 29, 2014 at 9:28 pm #

    Bonsall Obot:
    This is a good time to remind everyone that LDS has never even tried to prove that he’s ever so much as traveled to Kenya, much less bribed anyone, much less that he was provided with the fake POSKBC by anyone but himself. It’s grifters all the way down.

    If I searched back in Doc’s comments, I imagine there is a large list of people, including myself, who kept asking for LDS to show some sort of proof (and not some lurid story about prostitutes). As he has no issues with fraud and forgery, as shown in his legal record, it is odd he has not at least tried some sort of fake evidence of his travels.

  27. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG March 29, 2014 at 11:33 pm #

    That’s because LDS is a lair, and a really terrible one at that. Not that the bar is set very high, mind you.

  28. avatar
    Lupin March 30, 2014 at 5:35 am #

    LDS is lying. I don’t know about Kenya but extradition is a costly and burdensome process and I can’t imagine any European country (even less so Kenya) moving Heaven & Earth to prosecute a mere felon (ie: bribing officials). The whole story is absurd.

  29. avatar
    American Mzungu March 30, 2014 at 10:18 am #

    Lupin: I don’t know about Kenya but extradition is a costly and burdensome process and I can’t imagine any European country (even less so Kenya) moving Heaven & Earth to prosecute a mere felon (ie: bribing officials).

    Ii would be “Earth-Shattering News” if Kenya went on an anti-corruption campaign so deep that it included extradition for the petty crime of bribery to get a copy of a birth certificate–extradition from a country of secondary residence, without an extradition treaty. I have seen nothing in Kenyan media that refers to such an “Earth-Shattering Development”.

  30. avatar
    Notorial Dissent March 30, 2014 at 10:30 am #

    Probably for the good and simple reason, that he doesn’t want to commit a Federal felony, that they will come after him for. Forging a passport or anything having to do with a passport, like visa stamps, etc, is something they will quickly take serious umbrage at, and I don’t think he wants to do Federal time, and as bad as he is at forging, he’d get caught right off the bat anyway.

    Northland10: If I searched back in Doc’s comments, I imagine there is a large list of people, including myself, who kept asking for LDS to show some sort of proof (and not some lurid story about prostitutes).As he has no issues with fraud and forgery, as shown in his legal record, it is odd he has not at least tried some sort of fake evidence of his travels.

  31. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm #

    This article has an update at the end.

  32. avatar
    Majority Will March 30, 2014 at 2:14 pm #

    Grifters gotta grift.

  33. avatar
    gorefan March 30, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

    Lucas also put in a great deal of effort in his narrative about his brush with an assassin. The ensuing car/motorcycle chase is the stuff of fiction.

    “Not yet two full months ago in February, 2012 while in República
    Dominicana (the Dominican Republic) I took a polygraph test contracted through an agent of J.A. Lasorsa & Associates and I was nearly killed by agent Tom Worthington after I passed the test proving that Barack Hussein Obama II’s 1961 Coast Province General Hospital (1961) certificate of birth (2009 certified copy) was given to me by Chief Administator Merry/Mary Othigo at CPGH on the 19th day of February, 2009 in Mombasa, Kenya.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/barrack-obama-eligibility/treachery-lucas-d-smith-passes-polygraph-test-pedophile-fbi-informant-joe-sims-fails-polygraph-test/

    BTW, in this tale the Chief Administrator was “Merry/Mary Othigo” not “Helton Maganga”. IIRC, Smith claims they were co-administrators after it was shown that Dr. Maganga didn’t start the position until after March, 2009.

  34. avatar
    BatGuano March 30, 2014 at 3:45 pm #

    from someone claiming to be “B. Steadman” on the comments at birther report:

    “QUESTION: Could Mike Zullo, Chief Investigator for Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse, be of any assistance in getting the Law Enforcement Officials in Santo Domingo to REFUSE to allow extradition of Lucas Daniel Smith to Kenya?

    IMO – Lucas is a NATIONAL HERO of the USA.

    …”
    i’m honestly hoping this is an obot having a laugh.

  35. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 30, 2014 at 4:31 pm #

    Here’s an article about life in jail in the Dominican Republic:

    http://dr1.com/articles/jail.shtml

  36. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater March 30, 2014 at 5:15 pm #

    gorefan: BTW, in this tale the Chief Administrator was “Merry/Mary Othigo” not “Helton Maganga”. IIRC, Smith claims they were co-administrators after it was shown that Dr. Maganga didn’t start the position until after March, 2009.

    I love how he changed his story after we destroyed his original claim. He stuck to the claim originally that it was Dr. Maganga who was the Chief Administrator during the time he went. When we not only showed he had the name wrong but misspelled it, he tried to show us all the times someone else misspelled Maganga’s name. Now he’s adjusting his story to claim it was Othigo. I doubt we’ll ever see this non-existent polygraph.

  37. avatar
    American Mzungu March 30, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Here’s an article about life in jail in the Dominican Republic:

    But better than spending time in the slammer in Kenya.

    http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/A-year-in-a-Kenyan-prison-is-worse-than-27-in-SA-jail/-/689364/2111808/-/jmorfr/-/index.html

    Maybe LDS should take his chances on jail in the Dominican Republic.

  38. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 30, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    Thus puppy has gotten a big Update # 2.

  39. avatar
    Bonsall Obot March 30, 2014 at 6:58 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Thus puppy has gotten a big Update # 2.

    Why, I am beginning to doubt this fellow, Smith.

  40. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 30, 2014 at 8:18 pm #

    This article has been updated to add:

    the laws of the Dominican Republic are not consistent with an extradition request from a foreign country to the National Police. Ley No. 489 sobre Extradición en la República Dominicana deals with extradition, and the relevant Section 6 states (in translation):

    Section 6 -. Any request for extradition, as emanating from the Dominican State or either directed to it, shall be processed through the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

  41. avatar
    chancery March 31, 2014 at 2:34 am #

    In light of the odor of make-believe that pervades this escapade, is there any particular reason to believe that $5,800 has been paid by anyone to anyone else? Aside, of course, from the inherent credibility of the notion that a birther is likely to be credulous.

  42. avatar
    chancery March 31, 2014 at 2:35 am #

    Doc, the link to the Facebook picture of Steadman isn’t working.

  43. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) March 31, 2014 at 5:55 am #

    roadburner: as someone who reads and speaks spanish every day, i can tell you that paper he claims is real was written by someone to whom spanish is a second language, and their first language is english

    Even though my Spanish is sub-par, one thing that struck me as odd was “Inteligencia Nacional Kenia” (which IMHO should read” … de Kenia”) – I could not find a single instance of “Inteligencia Nacional [COUNTRY]” anywhere.

    The half-sentence starting with “acto de sobonar” also sounds strangely disconnected to me.

  44. avatar
    Lupin March 31, 2014 at 6:17 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: This article has an update at the end.

    I do read Spanish and the document is pure b*llsh*t. Certainly not emanating from an authentic Spanish-speaking source.

    LDS is again revealed to be an incompetent forger. Color me surprised.

  45. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 31, 2014 at 9:14 am #

    It works for me, but not if I log out from Facebook.

    chancery: Doc, the link to the Facebook picture of Steadman isn’t working.

  46. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG March 31, 2014 at 9:22 am #

    Lupin: I do read Spanish and the document is pure b*llsh*t. Certainly not emanating from an authentic Spanish-speaking source.

    LDS is again revealed to be an incompetent forger. Color me surprised.

    All I gots left is orange. Surprise is the same color as orange, right?

  47. avatar
    The Magic M March 31, 2014 at 9:25 am #

    So what comes next from LDS is obvious:

    1. He will claim his document was partly a faithful Spanish translation of a Kenyan document written in poor English (the “formal request …” part).

    2. He will post 20 examples of other Spanish documents that are missing a “de” or use strangely detached sentence parts.

    3. He will post photos from Taco Bell to prove he really was in the Dominican Republic.

    about $5,800) bond, the money provided by birther Bruce Steadman

    I wonder if Mr Steadman is going to independently verify that LDS was actually detained by DomRep police based on the reported allegations.
    Maybe not because marks tend to close their eyes when faced with situations that would force them to admit they’ve been conned.

    I’m just curious under which circumstances the bond would be paid back – will LDS just stay in the US and claim the bond was therefore forfeited?

    A double whammy for LDS – with one swift con job, he cheated one guy out of several grand *and* provided “proof” he actually was in Kenya and bribed someone there (not that it would prove he bribed someone with regard to the BC).

    And since there is no extradition agreement between Kenya and DomRep, he can follow up with “Kenya didn’t follow through which proves the conspiracy wants to cover it up”.

  48. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy March 31, 2014 at 9:46 am #

    Could I get a wrapper from a Gordita Santa Fe and prove I was in Santa Fe?

    Smith already posted a video to prove he is in DR.

    The Magic M: 3. He will post photos from Taco Bell to prove he really was in the Dominican Republic.

  49. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater March 31, 2014 at 9:53 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Could I get a wrapper from a Gordita Santa Fe and prove I was in Santa Fe?Smith already posted a video to prove he is in DR.

    Is it the same video he used to claim he was in kenya?

  50. avatar
    Lupin March 31, 2014 at 11:23 am #

    LDS’s true home seems to be Nigeria.

  51. avatar
    chancery March 31, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    Works for me now too. Must have been a late-night glitch.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    It works for me, but not if I log out from Facebook.

  52. avatar
    American Mzungu March 31, 2014 at 1:25 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: Why, I am beginning to doubt this fellow, Smith.

    The notion that the Kenyan officials are going to go to the trouble of extradition for common-place bribery to obtain a birth certificate needs some context.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Kenya

    The estimate is that the typical urban dweller in Kenya resorts to bribery 16 times per month. There wouldn’t be anyone left on the street if they prosecuted every petty bribe. They don’t even do much with the big-time bribes, so it seems.

  53. avatar
    faceman March 31, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

    I must be missing something. Can someone explain the significance of a BC from 1963? Maybe its a template for the fake Kenyan BC from 4 years ago? Was Obama somehow complicit in forging a fake BC to cover his tracks? Oh, that’s right. It can’t be. He just ‘discovered’ it earlier this year, didn’t he?

  54. avatar
    cub16 April 1, 2014 at 1:59 pm #

    Looks like all birth certficates can be faked, I guess

    Who will be extradited next!

  55. avatar
    bovril April 1, 2014 at 3:27 pm #

    Does travelling to another country count as extradition…? In which case it’s meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    (Returns to poolside, orders fresh drink, sits in the sunshine in Sao Paulo, looks at the pretty-pretty’s. Sao Paulo where the heels are higher, the hemlines shorter and the tops tighter…..dirty job but someone has to do it…. 8-) )

  56. avatar
    bob April 1, 2014 at 6:52 pm #

    faceman:
    I must be missingsomething.Can someone explain the significance of a BC from 1963?Maybe its a template for the fake Kenyan BC from 4 years ago?Was Obama somehow complicit in forging a fake BC to cover his tracks?Oh, that’s right.It can’t be.He just ‘discovered’ it earlier this year, didn’t he?

    To Smith, the significance of the 1963 birth certificate is that it is in the same format as the 1961 “birth certificate” that he’s been peddling. (Minus the differences in date formats.) Smith is trying to bolster the accuracy of the 1961 certificate with its similarity to the 1963 certificate.

  57. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 1, 2014 at 7:06 pm #

    I just wonder if Smith is really facing extradition, only not to Kenya. Is there any way to check outstanding arrest warrants for the guy?

  58. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 1, 2014 at 8:09 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I just wonder if Smith is really facing extradition, only not to Kenya. Is there any way to check outstanding arrest warrants for the guy?

    Probably facing extradition to the US for something he did here.

  59. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 1, 2014 at 8:27 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:

    Probably facing extradition to the US for something he did here.

    Or even something he did there. Traveling abroad for the purposes of having sex with children can be prosecuted back in the U.S., no matter where one committed the crime.

    That’s speculation, of course; Smith’s behavior is indicative of a pedophile, but we don’t know for sure that he is one. We don’t know what the government knows.

  60. avatar
    RanTalbott April 1, 2014 at 8:39 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: We don’t know what the government knows.

    Maybe the anti-birthers should be demanding that Obama release Smith’s schoolchild records.

  61. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 1, 2014 at 9:56 pm #

    User names and email addresses can be faked too.

    helen, cavitekid, How b, hy low, solidbrainman, et al. strikes again.

    cub16: Looks like all birth certficates can be faked, I guess

  62. avatar
    The Magic M April 2, 2014 at 4:40 am #

    cub16: Looks like all birth certficates can be faked, I guess

    Anything can be faked, that’s a truism. Seems in Birtherstan, nothing ever has any value (birth certificates, driver’s licenses, passports, money) because it “can be faked”.

  63. avatar
    faceman April 2, 2014 at 6:02 am #

    So I’m supposed to believe that he had no problem finding Obama’s BC 4 years ago, but it took another 4 years for him, and all of birther nation, just to find a single similar looking document. And he had to bribe some official to get that.

  64. avatar
    The Magic M April 2, 2014 at 7:29 am #

    And one that undermines the authenticity of his “Obama BC”. And one that suddenly causes him to be “wanted in Kenya” when nobody there cared about him plastering his “Obama BC” and associated bribery claims all over the Internet.

  65. avatar
    American Mzungu April 2, 2014 at 7:55 am #

    faceman: So I’m supposed to believe that he had no problem finding Obama’s BC 4 years ago, but it took another 4 years for him, and all of birther nation, just to find a single similar looking document. And he had to bribe some official to get that.

    LDS wants you to believe much more. He wants you to believe that Obama is terrified by this “discovery”. He wants you to believe that he is now threatened with retribution by Kenya for his political entrepreneurship but he is resisting with the help of his friend, Bruce. However, if you reread the account of events on his blog, it is never explicitly stated that he obtained the second birth certificate through bribery. It is merely implied. He said he obtained it through contacts and then he jumps to this story about getting his house searched, arrested in the provinces, held for some time, transported back to the capital, held in jail/prison until he was bailed out. For some reason LDS never revealed the “bombshell” second birth certificate until after he arrested and threatened with deportation back to Kenya. He reveals in this same blog posting a scan of a redacted document from the police, but he gives us no explanation about how he managed to obtain this document in its redacted form. I’m leaning toward explaining all this as an April Fool’s Day prank that LDS drafted and inadvertently posted a few days early.

  66. avatar
    Majority Will April 2, 2014 at 10:11 am #

    faceman:
    So I’m supposed to believe that he had no problem finding Obama’s BC 4 years ago, but it took another 4 years for him, and all of birther nation, just to find a single similar looking document.And he had to bribe some official to get that.

    What does it say when all it takes is the feeble, half-assed efforts of a semiliterate, incompetent and convicted con artist to scam a bunch of birther bigots?

  67. avatar
    John Reilly April 2, 2014 at 10:25 am #

    This goes to my point of why folks with a modicum of intelligence would believe Mr. Smith over Pres. Obama or the State of Hawaii. There has to be something seriously wrong with you to believe this guy.

  68. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) April 2, 2014 at 11:00 am #

    Majority Will: What does it say when all it takes is the feeble, half-assed efforts of a semiliterate, incompetent and convicted con artist to scam a bunch of birther bigots?

    The difference is the average mark needs to be convinced (although it helps if he’s already invested in the “get rich quick” idea) whereas the birthers already *are* convinced and will believe anything that seems to reinforce that.

    Just remember how quickly unsourced claims of “Kenyan Intelligence reports” and “British birth records” and “several ex-CIA agents confirmed” became absorbed in the “established fact” category.
    Or how quickly Mitt Romney’s “tiny blurry Internet image” was accepted as “showed his BC”, or that guy on YouTube who held some unreadable document in front of 4 unknown people in a basement and then quickly put it away was accepted as “showed his BC”. *facepalm*

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    Majority Will April 2, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    The Magic M (not logged in): The difference is the average mark needs to be convinced (although it helps if he’s already invested in the “get rich quick” idea) whereas the birthers already *are* convinced and will believe anything that seems to reinforce that.

    Just remember how quickly unsourced claims of “Kenyan Intelligence reports” and “British birth records” and “several ex-CIA agents confirmed” became absorbed in the “established fact” category.
    Or how quickly Mitt Romney’s “tiny blurry Internet image” was accepted as “showed his BC”, or that guy on YouTube who held some unreadable document in front of 4 unknown people in a basement and then quickly put it away was accepted as “showed his BC”. *facepalm*

    True.

    Or how Mara Zebest, et al. are readily accepted by birther bigots as unimpeachable forensic document analysis experts without regard to political or personal motive or actual field and level of expertise.

  70. avatar
    Majority Will April 2, 2014 at 12:05 pm #

    John Reilly:
    This goes to my point of why folks with a modicum of intelligence would believe Mr. Smith over Pres. Obama or the State of Hawaii.There has to be something seriously wrong with you to believe this guy.

    They are either willfully ignorant or in on the scam.

  71. avatar
    Daniel April 2, 2014 at 12:31 pm #

    For some people the person who says what you want to hear is always more reliable than the expert who disappoints you.

  72. avatar
    RanTalbott April 2, 2014 at 2:24 pm #

    Majority Will: Or how Mara Zebest, et al. are readily accepted by birther bigots as unimpeachable forensic document analysis experts without regard to political or personal motive or actual field and level of expertise.

    I’m actually surprised by Zebest’s lack of knowledge of PDF structure and how high-end scanners work. If I were coming to the subject cold, I would expect someone with her experience, who had been hired by Adobe to write tech books on their software, to have first-hand knowledge of what kinds of file you get from a high-end scanner. One needs to know that sort of thing to be able to warn readers that they might get files they can’t easily edit, or have been distorted by various types of optimization, if they don’t set the scanner options correctly.

  73. avatar
    BillTheCat April 2, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

    Every time you guys use LDS for his name, I think of Mormons, heh.

  74. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 2, 2014 at 3:32 pm #

    DItto. I argued about Mormons long before Obama.

    BillTheCat: Every time you guys use LDS for his name, I think of Mormons, heh.

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    roadburner April 2, 2014 at 3:42 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: Or even something he did there. Traveling abroad for the purposes of having sex with children can be prosecuted back in the U.S., no matter where one committed the crime.

    That’s speculation, of course; Smith’s behavior is indicative of a pedophile, but we don’t know for sure that he is one. We don’t know what the government knows.

    as i seem to remember, he openly admitted taking the virginity of his neighbours 15 year old daughter, supposedly with their consent.

    the more i´m thinking about this, the more i´m getting a feeling that steadman is either…..

    a) a fabrication of smith´s, and used to salt the pot in the same way buskers will put some of their own change in the hat to attract more – he´s goin to be asking for money to fight his exradition, i´d take odds on it.

    or…

    b) steadman exists, and he´s in on the same game as mentioned in `a´.

    either way, there´s a scam going on there

  76. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) April 3, 2014 at 4:09 am #

    roadburner: he openly admitted taking the virginity of his neighbours 15 year old daughter, supposedly with their consent

    Would be legal in Germany unless the minor was mentally underdeveloped (meaning less mature then their real age) or paid money in exchange.

    RanTalbott: I’m actually surprised by Zebest’s lack of knowledge of PDF structure and how high-end scanners work.

    Even real experts sometimes only see what they want to see, especially if they have some stake in the game. Back in my time at university, I’ve seen mathematicians (good ones) who refused to accept the rejection of their paper because they were so invested in the idea that they had solved what nobody had been able to solve before. They didn’t go full-tilt conspiracy nut, but they kept insisting they were right and peer review was wrong.

    It’s possible the same thing can happen out of political motivation. After all, contrary to what birthers claim, Ms Zebest is not “putting her reputation on the line” because nobody except birther echo chambers know of her “analysis”.