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Cold Case Posse plays fast and loose with the law

Despite dubious claims of being “law enforcement,” the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Cold Case Posse doesn’t act like law enforcement, but more like someone trying to evade the law.

Case in point is their obligation under federal law to provide certain information regarding their IRS tax-exempt status. When I asked for the legally required information in a registered letter, they refused delivery (didn’t sign for the letter at their PO Box) and when they finally responded to someone else, they redacted parts of the filing, not complying fully with the law. Here are some of the redactions:

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At least two complaints have been filed with the IRS regarding the CCP tax exempt status, one documenting that their primary activity is political, and one filed by me that their independent status conflicts with their exemption from filing financial disclosure forms.

A second matter is the recent discovery that those county government “G” license plates on Posse cars are not registered to the county, but to the Posse itself. Irregularities with the Posse and it’s vehicles have been referred to the state auditor.

Now a third complaint has been filed with the Arizona Corporation Commission. The full story appears in an April 22 article at Arizona’s Politics. The complaint was filed by former Posse member Brian Reilly, well-known to readers of this blog. Reilly alleges that filings with the Corporation Commission were altered around the time the Posse went into the Evil Obama business (my phrase) to obscure the current addresses of those who run the Posse.

Arizona law requires the street address be provided for a corporate address, and the 2011 filing does contain a street address of sorts (and the same address is listed for all corporate officers and directors).

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Here’s what is located at that street address:

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It’s the Daisy Mountain post office at 44047 N 43rd Ave.

The only real address on the form is the “physical address” of Mike Zullo, in his capacity as registered agent, and that address belongs to the Sheriff’s Office, where Zullo has box where he can pick up mail without signing for it. It appears that this exercise in obstruction might be to prevent delivery of registered mail to him, or maybe Zullo is acting paranoid.

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102 Responses to Cold Case Posse plays fast and loose with the law

  1. avatar
    Jim April 23, 2014 at 10:52 am #

    Dear Mr Zullo, since we know you read here and keep up with us…you might want to consider a little piece of advice. You might wish to close up the CCP shop and end the sham investigation pretty soon. All these little nuisances in and of themselves may seem to be just a bump in the road now, but they are starting to add up to something you really don’t want. Pretty soon the IRS is going to want to see your personal finances, as well as all the records from the CCP to make sure you have been using donations as they were meant and not for personal use. You want to see a REAL investigation at work, it will be against you…and it won’t be pretty. Very simply, if you close it down now, you’ll probably be able to skate by. If you keep on going till the mid-terms, you’re probably going to find yourself in really deep doo-doo. Your choice, because you know by now your sham investigation is NOT going to get the President. Just my 2 cents for you.

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    The European April 23, 2014 at 10:58 am #

    Mr. ZuLow, don´t listen to Jim. He is not your friend, like me !

    Double down !

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    JPotter April 23, 2014 at 11:13 am #

    “It appears that this exercise in obstruction might be to prevent delivery of registered mail to him, or maybe Zullo is acting paranoid.”

    … or maybe Zullo is an experienced confidence man.

  4. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 11:16 am #

    Between all this negative press the CCP is getting as of late, and LDS’s little house of lies crumbling, I forsee a huge increase in puff pieces and “We’re SO close!” damage control articles at BR, in the immediate future.

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 11:28 am #

    Jim: Dear Mr Zullo, since we know you read here and keep up with us…you might want to consider a little piece of advice. You might wish to close up the CCP shop and end the sham investigation pretty soon.

    Ending the sham is good advise for Mr. Zullo. In the end, though, it won’t protect him and all the other officers and directors of the corporation from personal responsibility for the organization’s mismanagement and possible misdeeds since it was founded in 2007.

    Until the posse reveals its finances reasonable people will wonder what is being hidden.

  6. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 23, 2014 at 11:32 am #

    And if two or more are acting in concert to unlawfully hide these unlawful acts… well, there’s a word for that.

    EDIT: And an acronym, too. Ask Orly.

  7. avatar
    Curious George April 23, 2014 at 11:32 am #

    Mr. Zullo. Which part of the “Daisy Mountain” Post Office is used for your office space? Is it the lobby? Is it a reserved parking space where your desk sits? Do you have unmarked Post Office trucks with government plates? Do you have a Post Office gas key? Do you get free postage stamps for your birther solicitations? Have you redacted your government vehicle plates as well? And this is all okay with Arpaio?

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Between all this negative press the CCP is getting as of late, and LDS’s little house of lies crumbling, I forsee a huge increase in puff pieces and “We’re SO close!” damage control articles at BR, in the immediate future.

    I’ve always found a quick trip to BirtherReport entertaining.

    Today it’s just downright crazy.

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    Thinker April 23, 2014 at 11:38 am #

    I’m confident that neither the mid-term nor any other election will factor into any decision the IRS makes regarding the Cold Case Posse. Suggesting that it will is just feeding the wingnut fake outrage machine about the fake “IRS targeting teabaggers” scandal.

    Jim: Very simply, if you close it down now, you’ll probably be able to skate by.If you keep on going till the mid-terms, you’re probably going to find yourself in really deep doo-doo.

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    Jim April 23, 2014 at 12:01 pm #

    Thinker:
    I’m confident that neither the mid-term nor any other election will factor into any decision the IRS makes regarding the Cold Case Posse. Suggesting that it will is just feeding the wingnut fake outrage machine about the fake “IRS targeting teabaggers” scandal.

    You’re reading too much into it, by keeping it going longer it seems that more and more things that they are doing wrong (and possibly illegally) will keep on popping up. Such as the cars, the lack of oversight, etc, etc, etc. If he shuts it down now, nobody will probably care enough to worry. If he keeps it going, who knows how many other misdeeds and illegal activities others might uncover and report about the CCP. The IRS does not care about elections, but Zullo might.

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    Joey April 23, 2014 at 12:21 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’ve always found a quick trip to BirtherReport entertaining.

    Today it’s just downright crazy.

    I find that the crazier Birther Report is, the more entertaining I find it. It’s like an adult “show and tell” assignment over there with all their pictures and the primary theme of every thread is name-calling/ad hominem attack.
    They never have a serious discussion of issues and they act like frightened little children when it comes to debate.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I’ve always found a quick trip to BirtherReport entertaining.

    Today it’s just downright crazy.

    I know. It was like that “store closing” sale at one the K-marts in town. Complete aimless scrambling about.
    Half the people there were flipping out because it was a closing sale, and the other half was flipping out, because they realized they wandered into a K-mart.

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 12:41 pm #

    Joey: I find that the crazier Birther Report is, the more entertaining I find it. It’s like an adult “show and tell” assignment over there with all their pictures and the primary theme of every thread is name-calling/ad hominem attack.
    They never have a serious discussion of issues and they act like frightened little children when it comes to debate.

    It seems to me like they’ve kinda slipped over the edge and they don’t know where they’re going.

  14. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 12:42 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Complete aimless scrambling about.

    Yes! To the tenth power.

  15. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 23, 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    I would characterize them more as bullies.

    Joey: They never have a serious discussion of issues and they act like frightened little children when it comes to debate.

  16. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 1:00 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I would characterize them more as bullies.

    Aren’t bullies – deep down inside – really just scared?

  17. avatar
    Arthur April 23, 2014 at 1:01 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Today it’s just downright crazy.

    Yes, they are really acting strangely. Their threat-filled collective hysteria reminds me of descriptions of medieval dancing mania.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 23, 2014 at 1:05 pm #

    Arthur: Yes, they are really acting strangely. Their threat-filled collective hysteria reminds me of descriptions of medieval dancing mania.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs

  19. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 23, 2014 at 1:14 pm #

    People like Volin repeating and exaggerating Zullo claims is just making it worse for them. Yesterday on the KFAB Chris Baker show Volin claimed that the MCSO had people in Hawaii for months looking at records. He didn’t say the cold case posse but rather that the Sheriff’s office itself did this. If any of this were true then taxpayer resources would have been used illegally more than they already are.

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    Arthur April 23, 2014 at 1:17 pm #

    CarlOrcas: It seems to me like they’ve kinda slipped over the edge and they don’t know where they’re going.

    Like this guy, “Barry Soetoro,” who has been obsessively posting anti-Obama photos, and who left his crazy nugget:

    “Half a decade under the oppression of Odildo has honed my Spidey senses. Also, I’m on a hair trigger b/c watching acquaintances (DRONES) wander thru the day, defending an Enemy Combatant with ZERO FORMS OF ID spools my Mockery Dial to the red line.”

    Even for a birther, that’s some bull moose looney.

  21. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 1:28 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:
    People like Volin repeating and exaggerating Zullo claims is just making it worse for them.Yesterday on the KFAB Chris Baker show Volin claimed that the MCSO had people in Hawaii for months looking at records.He didn’t say the cold case posse but rather that the Sheriff’s office itself did this.If any of this were true then taxpayer resources would have been used illegally more than they already are.

    There’s a rule in Birtherstan: Every claim increases in magnitude exponentially with each telling of the tale. Soon the entire sheriff’s office will have decamped to Honolulu for the duration.

  22. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 1:30 pm #

    Arthur: Even for a birther, that’s some bull moose looney.

    He’s not the only one. Some of them are getting downright scary.

  23. avatar
    BillTheCat April 23, 2014 at 3:13 pm #

    CarlOrcas: He’s not the only one. Some of them are getting downright scary.

    I think that’s what is known as “acting out”. I see five year olds do it often, usually resulting in a tantrum. Lots of those at BR. Usually comes when the realization hits that they are done.

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    CarlOrcas April 23, 2014 at 3:23 pm #

    BillTheCat: I think that’s what is known as “acting out”. I see five year olds do it often, usually resulting in a tantrum. Lots of those at BR. Usually comes when the realization hits that they are done.

    In my experience most five year old children act better….even at their worst.

  25. avatar
    Bob April 23, 2014 at 4:27 pm #

    Reading Birther Report is like watching a headless chicken run around a barnyard except that it thinks it’s head will be re-attached any day now.

  26. avatar
    RanTalbott April 23, 2014 at 5:40 pm #

    Arthur: Their threat-filled collective hysteria reminds me of descriptions of medieval dancing mania.

    It reminds me of descriptions of Klan rallies and revolutionary cabal meetings: lots of saber-rattling, and graphic descriptions of how they intend to murder their enemies.

    I’m worried about next month’s OAS gathering: some of those nuts are talking like suicide bombers seeking martyrdom. If they get more than the usual pitiful turnout, their “monitors” may not be able to weed out all the armed loons, and one or more could try for a suicide-by-cop to “expose the tyranny”.

  27. avatar
    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 6:35 pm #

    Jim: You want to see a REAL investigation at work, it will be against you…

    That’s awesome!

  28. avatar
    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 6:36 pm #

    JPotter: … or maybe Zullo is an experienced confidence man

    He was, after all, a used car salesman. Isn’t that supposed to be their training ground?

  29. avatar
    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm #

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: People like Volin repeating and exaggerating Zullo claims is just making it worse for them. Yesterday on the KFAB Chris Baker show Volin claimed that the MCSO had people in Hawaii for months looking at records. He didn’t say the cold case posse but rather that the Sheriff’s office itself did this. If any of this were true then taxpayer resources would have been used illegally more than they already are.

    Has Volin ever addressed the reason why MCSO says that they are not involved in any birther investigation of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate when someone calls there? I have called there and the front desk personnel emphatically deny that any birther investigation is going on. I sure would like to see Volin explain WHY that is.

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    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 6:50 pm #

    Curious George: And this is all okay with Arpaio?

    Quite honestly, I think he hasn’t really given much thought or care to the situation until the vehicles were found to have a lack of insurance and it certainly seems that he hasn’t done much to remedy the problem. Not the kind of person I would consider for a position as governor, that’s for sure.

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    Bonsall Obot April 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm #

    RanTalbott:

    If they get more than the usual pitiful turnout,

    There’s that word, “If.”

    I always expect to hear about some Birfer finally snapping and killing innocent people, but I don’t think their little pity party will be a factor.

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    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 6:55 pm #

    Jim: You’re reading too much into it, by keeping it going longer it seems that more and more things that they are doing wrong (and possibly illegally) will keep on popping up. Such as the cars, the lack of oversight, etc, etc, etc. If he shuts it down now, nobody will probably care enough to worry.

    The birthers will absolutely freak out. They seem to think the Sheriff is the only legitimate person with the power to remove the president, as I have read. (Bwahaha!)

  33. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 23, 2014 at 7:13 pm #

    bgansel9: Has Volin ever addressed the reason why MCSO says that they are not involved in any birther investigation of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate when someone calls there? I have called there and the front desk personnel emphatically deny that any birther investigation is going on. I sure would like to see Volin explain WHY that is.

    Volin won’t let that question through the screening room. Volin has never directly addressed the Xerox workflow, the Brian Reilly information nor that the MCSO says there is no investigation going on.

  34. avatar
    Curious George April 23, 2014 at 7:26 pm #

    Bgansel9
    Quite honestly, I think he hasn’t really given much thought or care to the situation until the vehicles were found to have a lack of insurance and it certainly seems that he hasn’t done much to remedy the problem. Not the kind of person I would consider for a position as governor, that’s for sure.

    Governor? It’s time for him to open the gate to the south forty and retire from politics. The state wouldn’t survive with him as governor.

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    bgansel9 April 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm #

    Curious George:

    Governor?It’s time for him to open the gate to the south forty and retire from politics.The state wouldn’t survive with him as governor.

    I agree, but, he’s still considering a gubernatorial campaign. – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/joe-arpaio-governor_n_5049193.html

  36. avatar
    MarylandCountryGirl April 23, 2014 at 11:13 pm #

    I see the liberals sweating already. Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out. Instead of worrying about Mike Zullo’s tax exempt status, maybe you should worry about the IRS giving bonuses to employees behind in their taxes, and those with conduct issues; To the tune of 3.8 million dollars.

    Maybe you should invest this time in real issues, such as the violation of the Constitution by the government everyday.

    Lastly, if you think this country’s problems are limited to just the democrats or republicans, then you haven’t been paying attention. Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

  37. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 7:29 am #

    So where do you see evidence of anybody being freaked out? I don’t feel in the least “freaked out” and I certainly don’t feel any anxiety over a a complete incompetent in Arizona. So Mike Zullo evading the law is proof that he’s onto something? What’s next? Up is down? Hot is Cold? Good is evil?

    Your comment about the IRS (article here) doesn’t affect the fact that the Cold Case Posse is skirting tax laws. Your diversion isn’t going to work, and not relevant to this blog. Is it evidence that the birthers are freaking out over the demise of their whole way of life?

    MarylandCountryGirl: I see the liberals sweating already. Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out.

    … IRS Bonuses …

  38. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 7:30 am #

    Straw man.

    MarylandCountryGirl: Lastly, if you think this country’s problems are limited to just the democrats or republicans

  39. avatar
    The Magic M April 24, 2014 at 7:35 am #

    MarylandCountryGirl: I see the liberals sweating already. Mike and his men must be getting awfully close

    Yes, any day now, remember?

    We’ve actually been sweating since 2011 at least. I, for one, only survive because Our Beloved Alien Overlords kindly suspended me in some W’raaxxnian cooling liquid back when Orly said she’d have Obama out of office in 30 daze, uh, days.

    MarylandCountryGirl: Maybe you should invest this time in real issues

    You’re trying to divert our attention away from the shenanigans of the Cold Case Puppies? Hm, I see you sweating already, we must be getting awfully close to something to have you worry about this lowly blog and a handful of Obots looking where there’s nothing to find, huh? ;)

  40. avatar
    The Magic M April 24, 2014 at 7:39 am #

    Bonsall Obot: I always expect to hear about some Birfer finally snapping and killing innocent people

    I don’t (anymore). The snapping kind are those that still try to actually do something, not just sit foaming behind their keyboards. Heck, even the craziest KKK people occasionally don their hood and burn a cross. Birthers don’t do *anything* except posting on birther sites. I’d be surprised they could load a gun without shooting themselves in the foot or worse. And they’re too coward to try and attack anyone with a knife.

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    American Mzungu April 24, 2014 at 7:40 am #

    MarylandCountryGirl: Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

    What MarylandCountryGirl calls Doc’s pure ignorance is highly valued information for most of us. I can understand that birthers don’t want this information presented and discussed. Doc, please continue to perform the valuable public service of shining light on the multiple problems of the Cold Case Posse.

  42. avatar
    Thinker April 24, 2014 at 7:52 am #

    I second Dr. Conspiracy’s question. What do you see here that leads you to believe people here are sweating and freaked out?

    MarylandCountryGirl:
    I see the liberals sweating already.Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out.

  43. avatar
    Bovril April 24, 2014 at 7:54 am #

    So,

    Assuming the CountryGirl is actually looking at responses, do tell.

    Exactly which “violation of the Constitution” are you talking about..?

    Exactly what is causing this “liberals sweating” ..?

    I mean surely you don’t mean Birthers, Birthing and L’il Mikey Zullo, the only responses they trigger are mirth, laughter and schadenfreude.

    They and by extension you are sad, silly, ineffectual dullards with the intellectual capacity of a brain damaged sloth and a total lack of success in all of their eneavours.

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    Bonsall Obot April 24, 2014 at 9:01 am #

    The Magic M: I don’t (anymore). The snapping kind are those that still try to actually do something, not just sit foaming behind their keyboards. Heck, even the craziest KKK people occasionally don their hood and burn a cross. Birthers don’t do *anything* except posting on birther sites. I’d be surprised they could load a gun without shooting themselves in the foot or worse. And they’re too coward to try and attack anyone with a knife.

    All that being valid, we still have people like Wally Fitzpatrick, Holy Cao, and he, LDS, all criminals, all with poor impulse control; I can easily envision one of them, or someone like them, completely losing her or his shpadoinkle and lashing out violently. I’m not talking about the Keyboard Kommando Korps, like bird boy, who are all cowards; I’m talking about the mentally unbalanced ones the Korps is deliberately trying to provoke.

  45. avatar
    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 9:11 am #

    bgansel9
    “And while I’m still open to that possibility, [running for governor] your support right now for re-election is critical. This decision will come soon – and I know I’ll be successful – but only if I have your continued support.” (Arpiao campaign email according to the Huff Post.)

    Look how Mr. Zoo-Low could use the quote from above to his advantage:

    And while I’m still open to that possibility, [writing a second book] your support right now for [my investimagination] is critical. This decision will come [any day now] – and I know I’ll be successful – but only if I have your continued [donations, mailed to my Daisy Mountain office, or just stop by at parking space "G" and drop off your check on my desk. Please be sure to put the check under the large patrol car paperweight so that the desert wind doesn't blow it away.]

  46. avatar
    Sef April 24, 2014 at 9:54 am #

    bgansel9: I agree, but, he’s still considering a gubernatorial campaign.– http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/28/joe-arpaio-governor_n_5049193.html

    Didn’t I see somewhere that if he runs for governor he has to resign as sheriff.

  47. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 10:08 am #

    MarylandCountryGirl:
    I see the liberals sweating already.Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out.Instead of worrying about Mike Zullo’s tax exempt status, maybe you should worry about the IRS giving bonuses to employees behind in their taxes, and those with conduct issues; To the tune of 3.8 million dollars.

    Maybe you should invest this time in real issues, such as the violation of the Constitution by the government everyday.

    Lastly, if you think this country’s problems are limited to just the democrats or republicans, then you haven’t been paying attention.Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

    Heard this kind of bluster before. Every time, predictably, it amounts to nothing. So, what makes YOUR doomsaying any different?

  48. avatar
    bgansel9 April 24, 2014 at 10:22 am #

    MarylandCountryGirl: Lastly, if you think this country’s problems are limited to just the democrats or republicans, then you haven’t been paying attention. Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

    Irony is such an interesting subject.

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    bgansel9 April 24, 2014 at 10:32 am #

    Sef: Didn’t I see somewhere that if he runs for governor he has to resign as sheriff.

    He is quoted as stating that he would have to resign to run for governor, so I guess the answer is yes.

  50. avatar
    bgansel9 April 24, 2014 at 10:33 am #

    Curious George: Look how Mr. Zoo-Low could use the quote from above to his advantage

    That’s brilliant, George.

  51. avatar
    Bovril April 24, 2014 at 11:42 am #

    Sef: Didn’t I see somewhere that if he runs for governor he has to resign as sheriff.

    Meeh, he’s doing a Donny Combover.

    Announce some grandiose nonsense, gin up his base of scared old white folks, milk ‘em for cash then un “gracefully” step away citing evil doers/Failure by the peons to sufficiently kow-tow/Need to support his suckers…sorry constituents etc…..

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    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 11:42 am #

    bgansel9

    “Irony is such an interesting subject.” It’s even more interesting when the Maryland Gal doesn’t take the time to thoughtfully consider what you have written.

    Thanks “9.”

  53. avatar
    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 12:38 pm #

    For any of the birther faithful, including MarylandCountryGirl, who are having a difficult time comprehending this thread, I offer for your consideration, Cold Case Posse, 101. This is offered as a Pass / Fail course for those who have been infected with chronic “birther nonsense disease.”

    Mr. Zullo is not a real cop. He is an unpaid volunteer. He has no powers of arrest. His Cold Case Posse is a not a law enforcement agency, but it is a public, non-profit charity 501(c) 3 corporation. His stand alone Cold Case Posse is a separate entity, not connected to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. The Cold Case Posse is a support to law enforcement at Arpaio’s request.

    Exam questions: (Remember, this is P/F)

    1. Is Michael Zullo a real cop? (No)

    2. Is the Cold Case Posse a real law enforcement agency? (No)

    3. Are donations to Mr. Zullo’s Cold Case Posse, tax deductible? (Yes)

    4. Are non-profit corporations required to follow the laws of the state? (Yes)

    5. Is the Cold Case Posse part of the United States Post Office? (No)

    Extra point question:

    Does Mr. Zullo have the power of arrest? (No)

    Next course: How to cope with birther shock, 102

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    Rickey April 24, 2014 at 12:54 pm #

    Curious George:

    Mr. Zullo is not a real cop.He is an unpaid volunteer. He has no powers of arrest. His Cold Case Posse is a not a law enforcement agency, but it is a public, non-profit charity 501(c) 3 corporation. His stand alone Cold Case Posse is a separate entity, not connected to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

    We may know more about Zullo when I receive a response to the Freedom of Information request which I sent to the Demarest Police Department.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm #

    Rickey: We may know more about Zullo when I receive a response to the Freedom of Information request which I sent to the Demarest Police Department.

    Oh yes! Birthers love tossing the FOIA around. Lets see how they like it, when that very thing is used to damage their already DOA cause!

  56. avatar
    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 12:58 pm #

    The Cold Case Posse 101, is a (3 ) credit course. Credits are only transferable to the University of Arpaio.

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    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 2:06 pm #

    And just when you thought it couldn’t get more bizzare, Larry Klayman enters the Bundy / BLM cattle grazing dispute. I wonder, will Klayman have Mr. Bundy do an affidavit similar to the “hearsay” laffidavit he prepared for Mr. Zullo?

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/alert-obama-ineligibility-attorney.html?m=1

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    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 2:11 pm #

    The other question, is Klayman licensed to practice law in Nevada? That was a problem for him in Arizona as I remember.

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    CarlOrcas April 24, 2014 at 2:12 pm #

    Curious George:
    And just when you thought it couldn’t get more bizzare, Larry Klayman enters the Bundy / BLM cattle grazing dispute.I wonder, will Klayman haveMr. Bundy do an affidavit similar to the “hearsay” laffidavit he prepared for Mr. Zullo?

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/alert-obama-ineligibility-attorney.html?m=1

    Add that to Mr. Bundy’s racist rant in The New York Times and I suspect his 15 minutes of fame in the real world is just about over.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/24/cliven-bundy-denies-making-pro-slavery-comments-then-repeats-them/

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    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 2:31 pm #

    I just found this comment (excerpt) by FatherTime over at Birther Recycle (BR):

    “We have a long time lawman Mike Zullo who was ask to look into Obama’s life story and has proven the records of Obama are faked which most Birthers knew. Zullo has a good track record as law enforcement and has built a trust over the years unlike Obama who we know has lie most every turn. ”

    FatherTime just failed the Cold Case Posse 101 exam. FatherTime gets an “F” and will be required to re-take the class.

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    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 2:43 pm #

    Klayman hearing postponed until June 2014.

    http://www.dcbar.org/attorney-discipline/board-on-professional-responsibility/hearing-schedule.cfm

  62. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 24, 2014 at 2:52 pm #

    CarlOrcas:

    Add that to Mr. Bundy’s racist rant in The New York Times and I suspect his 15 minutes of fame in the real world is just about over.

    I respectfully disagree; making racist statements and hiring a racist lawyer will elevate him in the eyes of those inclined to support him in the first place.

  63. avatar
    RanTalbott April 24, 2014 at 3:07 pm #

    MarylandCountryGirl: I see the liberals sweating already.

    Birfoons see a lot of things that aren’t there. Like “evidence of forgery” in the structure of a digital PICTURE of a document.

    MarylandCountryGirl: Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out

    You confuse the disappointment of people who’ve been told that the next episode of their favorite sitcom has been postponed with the anxiety of people anticipating the arrival of a hurricane. You should check your local library for self-help books on interpreting people’s actions and expressions.

  64. avatar
    Joey April 24, 2014 at 3:18 pm #

    Speculation that Sheriff Arpaio could end up in jail:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2014-04-24/news/joe-arpaio-racial-profiling/

  65. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 3:24 pm #

    Joey:
    Speculation that Sheriff Arpaio could end up in jail:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2014-04-24/news/joe-arpaio-racial-profiling/

    Yeah, its just speculation, but wouldn’t that beat all?

  66. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 24, 2014 at 3:28 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: I respectfully disagree; making racist statements and hiring a racist lawyer will elevate him in the eyes of those inclined to support him in the first place.

    Yes, but only the fringiest of the fringes.

    Even Rand Paul is pulling back……………

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/24/rand-paul-and-other-republican-leaders-back-away-from-bundy/?clsrd

  67. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 24, 2014 at 3:32 pm #

    Joey:
    Speculation that Sheriff Arpaio could end up in jail:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2014-04-24/news/joe-arpaio-racial-profiling/

    Arpaio is a past master at pushing things to the edge of the cliff.

    The real question is how far Judge Snow will let him go before he moves to cite him for contempt. While I love the idea of Arpaio in his own jail I suspect he would scramble back from the precipice if he was really facing a pair of pink undershorts.

  68. avatar
    Bonsall Obot April 24, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    I see the liberals sweating already.

    Examples, please? Even one tiny example?

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out.

    Again, examples? And the next time that blind squirrel finds a nut will be the first. His perfect record of FAIL remains intact.

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    Instead of worrying about Mike Zullo’s tax exempt status, maybe you should worry about the IRS giving bonuses to employees behind in their taxes, and those with conduct issues; To the tune of 3.8 million dollars.

    Citation needed. And your concern with how others spend their time would be touching, if it weren’t so wildly off-topic and disingenuous.

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    Maybe you should invest this time in real issues, such as the violation of the Constitution by the government everyday.

    Again, citation needed and, again, your concern for how others spend their time is duly noted. But I find it odd that all your suggestions involve looking at someone, anyone, besides Birfers. Curious, that.

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    Lastly, if you think this country’s problems are limited to just the democrats or republicans, then you haven’t been paying attention.

    This is a response to a statement no one here made; perhaps a voice in your head?

    MarylandCountryGirl:

    Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

    DAMN the people who force you to read this website! DAMN THEM TO HELL! I WANT THEIR NAMES!

    Congratulations, Pumpkin; you’ve managed a multi-paragraph reply in which everything you’ve said is irrelevant, unsupported, off-topic or just plain wrong. You have achieved Birfer Perfection!

  69. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 3:38 pm #

    Not surprised at all, that some of the nutters at BR are all like “I didn’t notice anything racist about what he said!”

  70. avatar
    Arthur April 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Not surprised at all, that some of the nutters at BR are all like “I didn’t notice anything racist about what he said!”

    I wonder how they’ll react to this:

    Hannity Disgusted With Bundy: Race Comments ‘Beyond Repugnant’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-bundy-slavery-repugnant

    Until now, they were applauding Hannity for supporting Bundy.

  71. avatar
    Jim April 24, 2014 at 4:20 pm #

    CarlOrcas: While I love the idea of Arpaio in his own jail I suspect he would scramble back from the precipice if he was really facing a pair of pink undershorts.

    Federal Court, Federal Prison (I think). Pink underwear optional.

  72. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 24, 2014 at 6:09 pm #

    Jim: Federal Court, Federal Prison (I think).Pink underwear optional.

    A couple thoughts: First, it would be civil contempt and involve only a fine and/or a day or two in jail. There is a medium security federal prison just north of Phoenix but prisoners only go there after being sentenced and turned over the Bureau of Prisons.

    People arrested by federal officers are already booked into the Maricopa County Jail where they’re used to handling short term prisoners and prisoners who need to make court appearances.

    All that said…..if Arpaio were to be cited I suspect Judge Snow would make arrangements for him to be held somewhere away from the general population but in a real jail/prison.

    There is a state prison facility near downtown…..on the grounds of the state mental hospital…..that might work.

  73. avatar
    BillTheCat April 24, 2014 at 6:27 pm #

    MarylandCountryGirl:
    Do us all a favor and keep your pure ignorance to yourself

    Said the person who came here on her own to cry. Might want to take your own advice, princess.

  74. avatar
    Curious George April 24, 2014 at 6:41 pm #

    Posses are independent according to Arpaio, in August 2013.

    http://www.kpho.com/story/23098441/questions-arise-over-mcso-cold-case-posses-tax-filings

  75. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 24, 2014 at 6:53 pm #

    Arthur: I wonder how they’ll react to this:

    Hannity Disgusted With Bundy: Race Comments ‘Beyond Repugnant’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-bundy-slavery-repugnant

    Until now, they were applauding Hannity for supporting Bundy.

    I think a whole bunch of birther heads short circuited today.

  76. avatar
    Sef April 24, 2014 at 6:54 pm #

    Curious George: 3. Are donations to Mr. Zullo’s Cold Case Posse, tax deductible? (Yes)

    Do we really think that donors have enough deductions to exceed the standard deduction?

  77. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 24, 2014 at 8:21 pm #

    If you have a mortgage, it’s not hard to exceed the standard deduction.

    Sef: Do we really think that donors have enough deductions to exceed the standard deduction?

  78. avatar
    Sef April 24, 2014 at 9:40 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    If you have a mortgage, it’s not hard to exceed the standard deduction.

    Do basements have mortgages?

  79. avatar
    Rickey April 24, 2014 at 11:21 pm #

    Arthur: I wonder how they’ll react to this:

    Hannity Disgusted With Bundy: Race Comments ‘Beyond Repugnant’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-bundy-slavery-repugnant

    Until now, they were applauding Hannity for supporting Bundy.

    Charles Krauthammer slams conservatives for supporting Bundy.

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/04/24/foxs-krauthammer-blasts-conservatives-for-their/199022

  80. avatar
    roadburner April 25, 2014 at 3:50 am #

    Arthur: I wonder how they’ll react to this:

    Hannity Disgusted With Bundy: Race Comments ‘Beyond Repugnant’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-bundy-slavery-repugnant

    Until now, they were applauding Hannity for supporting Bundy.

    try spinning like a centrifuge!

    and BR is hammering anything contrary with the censor mallet, but that is normal

  81. avatar
    Arthur April 25, 2014 at 11:44 am #

    roadburner: try spinning like a centrifuge!

    and BR is hammering anything contrary with the censor mallet, but that is normal

    Here are some comments about Bundy under the latest article at B.R.

    negro college fund: bundy is not a racist.

    EWO, @negro college fund: I agree. He’s just misunderstood. He himself said that he doesn’t have the vocabulary to express himself correctly. The left wing vultures took this opportunity to demonize him.

    kittycat: The libs are always twisting what people say.

    EWO: It’s the hateful race baiting left that’s trying to demonize Bundy. It’s hateful sheeple pea brains that choose to believe them.

    George: No way what Bundy said was racist. The libs are quick to jump on it and twist it around but really what he should have done was use the word DEMOCRATS instead of NEGROS and that is the gist of who he was talking about.

    Barack_D_Fraud: if you look at black’s relative position in society today vs when they were slaves, bundy is right. when they were slaves they had self respect for theselves, today for the most part they dont. for every alan keyes there are 100000 snoop dogs

    Are birthers racist? Do you really have to ask.

  82. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) April 25, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    Arthur: Here are some comments about Bundy under the latest article at B.R.

    You’ll find the same and worse at Breitbart. Everything from “he’s just exercising his 1st amendment rights” over “he’s just telling it like it is” to “the n***s are the real racists for allowing Communists to enslave them”.

    I think birthers are pretty harmless in comparison, they’re mostly obsessed with feces and buttsecks, idiots to laugh at, but the Tea Party crowd is just abhorrent. The latter are the ones who did the lynchings, the birthers would “only” have cheered.

  83. avatar
    Curious George April 25, 2014 at 12:43 pm #

    Birther Recycle comment:
    Cassandra Hocutt wrote:
    “Considering that Brian Reilly and Kevin Davidson are trying to get the names and home addresses of everyone on the CCP for who knows what sinister purposes, potentially putting their homes and families at risk, I sincerely doubt that the CCP is delaying things just to cause you frustration.”

    As it has already been pointed out on another site, Reilly would know the other members and their addresses. As far as “sinister purposes,” this is called a diversion. The real issues at hand are financial accountability, transparency, and the CCCP following the laws of the state of Arizona. I detect a connection between “Cassandra” and “Joe Mannix.” They have become the Birther Recycle spinmeisters for the apparent Cold Case Posse money making enterprise. By the way, has the NSA tripped over the CCCP desk in the post office parking lot….yet? And, is it on wheels for a quick getaway?

  84. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 25, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

    I have all the names on the corporate registration, and I have all the redacted addresses on the IRS form featured in the article. I didn’t publish them because it’s against policy. I haven’t looked at them because I’m not interested.

    Curious George: Cassandra Hocutt wrote:
    “Considering that Brian Reilly and Kevin Davidson are trying to get the names and home addresses of everyone on the CCP for who knows what sinister purposes, potentially putting their homes and families at risk, I sincerely doubt that the CCP is delaying things just to cause you frustration.”

  85. avatar
    bgansel9 April 25, 2014 at 12:51 pm #

    Curious George: Klayman hearing postponed until June 2014

    Was this decided so that he could represent Cliven Bundy? Wouldn’t it be interesting if he got disbarred during that time?

  86. avatar
    Notorial Dissent April 26, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    I think it might be about time that someone gave a heads up to the AZ Corp Commission, that Zullo is using invalid, dare I say fraudulent, addresses on his CCP registration, which is a violation of state law, and they must have a “real” street address for the registered agent at all times, seems they are not complying with state regs there.

    And, if someone were feeling really cranky, they might let the state tax office know that CCP is not registered correctly for tax status, it is claiming to be a part of MCSO, when it plainly isn’t, and has been repudiated as being, and so is again committing another registration fraud, since as a regular non profit it has to meet certain reporting and registration rules that don’t apply to gov’t auxiliaries.

  87. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 26, 2014 at 10:20 am #

    Speaking of Zullo and pals, Friday came and went without the usual birfer broadcast.

  88. avatar
    bgansel9 April 26, 2014 at 10:21 am #

    Notorial Dissent: And, if someone were feeling really cranky, they might let the state tax office know that CCP is not registered correctly for tax status, it is claiming to be a part of MCSO, when it plainly isn’t, and has been repudiated as being, and so is again committing another registration fraud, since as a regular non profit it has to meet certain reporting and registration rules that don’t apply to gov’t auxiliaries.

    I’ll contact them Monday morning.

  89. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 26, 2014 at 10:32 am #

    Notorial Dissent: I think it might be about time that someone gave a heads up to the AZ Corp Commission, that Zullo is using invalid, dare I say fraudulent, addresses on his CCP registration, which is a violation of state law, and they must have a “real” street address for the registered agent at all times, seems they are not complying with state regs there.

    Already taken care of! Brian Reilly did it earlier this week. Here are the details:

    http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2014/04/breaking-sheriff-arpaios-cold-case.html

    Notorial Dissent: And, if someone were feeling really cranky, they might let the state tax office know that CCP is not registered correctly for tax status, it is claiming to be a part of MCSO, when it plainly isn’t, and has been repudiated as being, and so is again committing another registration fraud, since as a regular non profit it has to meet certain reporting and registration rules that don’t apply to gov’t auxiliaries.

    Doc’s complaint to the IRS should take care of that but let’s see what he says about also taking it to the Arizona Department of Revenue.

  90. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 26, 2014 at 10:34 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Speaking of Zullo and pals, Friday came and went without the usual birfer broadcast.

    You didn’t hear Eisenhower on the radio before D-Day did you? Same thing. Any day now!

  91. avatar
    RanTalbott April 28, 2014 at 3:56 pm #

    The European: And Orly smells blood

    Yes, Shurf Joke should be Very Afraid, because, as we all know, Orly’s perfect record when taking government officials to court is absolutely unmatched…

  92. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 28, 2014 at 4:00 pm #

    Oh I do so hope a discussion about this breaks out at BR.

  93. avatar
    Rickey April 28, 2014 at 6:40 pm #

    My Freedom of Information request to the Demarest Police Department was not as fruitful as I hoped, but it does confirm that Zullo was a small-town police officer. This is their response:

    “Mr. Zullo was a Demarest Police Officer prior to the appointment of the undersigned and all current Demarest Police Officers. The undersigned has no access to any records during the time frame of Mr. Zullo’s employment as a Demarest Police Officer. I believe that Mr. Zullo and his family relocated to Arizona prior to my appointment to the Demarest Police Department.”

    My first reaction was that the officer who responded was saying that the records have been destroyed, but on second thought it may be that the Police Department doesn’t keep records of former officers but the Borough of Demarest does. Since the letter is already written I’m going to resubmit it to the Borough of Demarest and see if I can get more information.

    As we know, the current Police Department consists of a chief, a deputy chief, two sergeants, nine patrolmen and five “special police.” The “special police” do such things as crowd control, directing traffic, etc. There are no detectives on the force. The population of Demarest has been stagnant for the past 25 years so it’s likely that the composition of the police force has not changed much since Zullo was there.

    One thing I have learned in my business if the value of persistence.

  94. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 28, 2014 at 7:31 pm #

    Rickey: Since the letter is already written I’m going to resubmit it to the Borough of Demarest and see if I can get more information.

    Good idea. Someone has to maintain records back there!!

    One other source for you may be the New Jersey Police Training Commission which, I believe, certifies officers and should have records back that far:

    http://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/njptc/home.htm

    Nice work and good luck!

  95. avatar
    Curious George April 28, 2014 at 9:03 pm #

    Rickey,
    Keep up the good work. And not a mention by the DPD of the word, detective?

  96. avatar
    Plantmaster April 29, 2014 at 5:14 pm #

    MarylandCountryGirl:
    I see the liberals sweating already.Mike and his men must be getting awfully close to something to have so many people freaked out.
    ********

    Delusions of intelligence + too many little brown mushrooms = Birther Certitude

  97. avatar
    Rickey April 29, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Curious George:

    Keep up the good work.And not a mention by the DPD of the word, detective?

    Not a word.

  98. avatar
    Rickey April 29, 2014 at 9:02 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Good idea. Someone has to maintain records back there!!

    One other source for you may be the New Jersey Police Training Commission which, I believe, certifies officers and should have records back that far:

    That’s what I believe. My first reaction was that the records were destroyed, but I read it again and noted that the officer says that he doesn’t have access to the records, not that they don’t exist.

  99. avatar
    bgansel9 April 29, 2014 at 9:30 pm #

    The European: We had not seen that, had we ?

    http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.fr/2014/04/breaking-sheriff-arpaios-cold-case.html?m=1

    The comments on that post are priceless.

  100. avatar
    bgansel9 April 29, 2014 at 9:35 pm #

    Rickey: Not a word.

    Why does that not surprise me?

  101. avatar
    RanTalbott May 2, 2014 at 6:02 am #

    I don’t know whether someone else has already thought of this one, but I thought it made an especially apt clue-by-four whack for one of the “Arpaio will save us any day now” crowd, and might be reusable:

    After TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS, Arpaio hasn’t even been able to name a specific crime, and get his county attorney or AG to open a case file.

    Instead of _solving_ cold cases, the CCP have actually _created_ one.

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