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The re-branding of Mike Zullo

My apologies to readers. I thought this was a new article, but it was from last summer.

It’s too soon to be certain, but a new article by Floyd Brown (author of Obama’s Enemies List: How Barack Obama Intimidated America and Stole the Election) looks like the introduction of a new career for Cold Case Posse Commander Mike Zullo.

Readers here have wondered just how Mike Zullo, 53, makes his living. Zullo was a policeman in New Jersey, he said, for 5 years and then was a private investigator for a few more. Then he moved to Arizona and was involved in the automotive sales business. But recently Zullo’s source of income has been a mystery, leading to speculation that he was siphoning off charitable contributions to the Cold Case Posse, speculation only heightened by the opaque finances of that organization.

Now, we learn that Zullo has an occupation of sorts: day trading.1 Brown published the article, “A Dollar Collapse is Coming” on his web site Capitol Hill Daily. It opens up with this introduction of Mike Zullo:

4 computer monitors with day trading softwareMike Zullo is an impressive man. When he strides into my office I can immediately see him carefully observe and analyze his surroundings. This is a result of his years of law enforcement training. Mike spent a number of years as a cop, and then as a detective.

After a successful career in law enforcement, he left to become a trader of equities. Here, Mike also excelled. But recently he has focused less on making money and more on protecting America – a country we both agreed had given us much but was now in grave danger.

The article itself is not a profile of Zullo, quickly jumping from Zullo puffery to its main point: that US currency is unsafe, will crash, and that Brown will one day tell people how to survive. Brown, along with others who advertise at WorldNetDaily, sell financial fear and anxiety—the financial apocalypse is coming any day now.

So what is Zullo doing in the article besides striding in, impressing the author, and agreeing with him? The only reason for Zullo even being in the article that I can think of is that Brown is introducing Zullo to his readers in preparation for Zullo entering the field of financial punditry. After demonstrating that he can sell promises to birthers, year after year, while delivering nothing, Zullo seems the perfect salesman for apocalyptic financial predictions of the collapse to happen any day now.

We’ll just have to wait an see whether Zullo’s new career is pursued and how well he does.


1Some day traders make a consistent living, but most lose money, and many go broke. For some, day trading is a day job, and for others it is gambling addiction. It’s too risky for my blood.

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68 Responses to The re-branding of Mike Zullo

  1. avatar
    The Magic M (not logged in) April 14, 2014 at 10:38 am #

    I can immediately see him carefully observe and analyze his surroundings

    This can also be attributed to paranoia. ;)

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Zullo checks under his bed for Muslims, Commies and Obots every night.

    Some day traders make a consistent living, but most lose money, and many go broke.

    A mate of mine is using it to bolster his small income as a taxi driver. His average is positive, but not enough to make a living by itself. Pretty much like other people I know who make small wins with online poker.
    I once tried it in a simulation environment and didn’t fare well so I would never touch this stuff with my real money.

    Zullo seems the perfect salesman for apocalyptic financial predictions of the collapse to happen any day now

    Since he’s built a loyal following of people who will believe every word he says, especially with the additional bonus of him posing as “law enforcement guy”. He might make some money off the most gullible peeps.

    After that, he can try selling quack medicine and copies of the Constitution that contain the “lost” amendments.

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    roadburner April 14, 2014 at 10:44 am #

    if you ever want to see a person carefully analize and observe their surroundings, watch a junkie enter a new room.

    they´ll have any risks checked, the exits ready, along with the price of most items in the room nailed in a couple of seconds

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    Jim April 14, 2014 at 10:52 am #

    Now we know where all the CCP donations have been going.

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    Lupin April 14, 2014 at 10:53 am #

    Like Glenn Beck he’ll soon be pushing gold or other commodities.

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    Bonsall Obot April 14, 2014 at 10:57 am #

    Magic M said most of what I wanted to say; why is carefully observing and analyzing one’s surroundings necessarily “a result of his years of law enforcement training?” Why isn’t a result of his guilty nature? Wouldn’t we expect the same behavior from someone who expects to be exposed as a fraud any day now?

    Why is Zullo’s improbable claim of an extensive law enforcement background accepted at face value? He’s never provided the most rudimentary documentation, and the story he does tell doesn’t fit what we know of the agency for which he claims he worked. The experience of an officer working for a small police department in a wealthy community can be said to be exceeded by the average mall security guard.

    The comparison of day-trading to gambling is an apt one; anyone can show small gains, over a short period. In the long run, most will lose. It requires extraordinary discipline and specialized knowledge, neither of which Kommandante Zullo has evidenced.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 14, 2014 at 11:11 am #

    I think I have done a pretty good job resisting the temptation of inflating my resume, but it’s easy to fall into that trap.

    Bonsall Obot: The experience of an officer working for a small police department in a wealthy community can be said to be exceeded by the average mall security guard.

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    bgansel9 April 14, 2014 at 11:26 am #

    They omitted his experience as a car salesman. Was that on purpose? Hmmm!

  8. avatar
    Curious George April 14, 2014 at 11:39 am #

    bgansel9
    “They omitted his experience as a car salesman. Was that on purpose? Hmmm!”

    What about the bagels? :-)

  9. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 11:59 am #

    The smart money has always been in selling stuff to the folks who are looking for the gold.

    Collis Huntington, Leland Stanford, Charles Crocker and Mark Hopkins made their money selling supplies and groceries to miners in the gold rush.

    Then they built a railroad, a bank, a hotel and a university.

    I doubt we’ll see that from Mr. Zullo but it appears he at least knows where the real money is.

  10. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 12:06 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Then they built a railroad, a bank, a hotel and a university.

    Correction: Hopkins didn’t build the hotel. It was built on the site of his Nob Hill mansion which was destroyed in the fire after the 1906 earthquake.

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    Bonsall Obot April 14, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Correction: Hopkins didn’t build the hotel. It was built on the site of his Nob Hill mansion which was destroyed in the fire after the 1906 earthquake.

    And Ann Dunham was known to have been in San Francisco in roughly the same time period, geologically speaking.

    Wheels within wheels, man.

  12. avatar
    The European April 14, 2014 at 12:35 pm #

    Corsi was in that business. He did not fare well.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm #

    He could be re-branded as an even more unlikable variety of circus clown! “Zullo the Clown” does have a certain ring to it.
    Ringmaster: And now Zullo will do a funny clown trick…*clears throat* Yesiree…*checks watch* Any day now…

    Now I used “funny” for the sake of example. As you all know, everything clowns do is wrong and horrifying, rather than funny!

  14. avatar
    Yoda April 14, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

    Being a day trader requires paying attention constantly to the market. I submit that it is impossible to be both a day trader and a super duper crack detective.

  15. avatar
    justlw April 14, 2014 at 2:52 pm #

    Here’s a thought exercise: imagine the typical conspiracy theorist. Now, imagine tasking them with creating an e-commerce web site, with absolutely no budget whatsoever, or any outside agency to help with things like graphic design, or, you know, spell checking.

    Remember, your key principle here is, “Whatever enterprise I’m engaging it, it’s all about US vs. THEM, and THEY are horrible, horrible people out to ruin everything for everyone, by a nefarious sekrit plan.”

    I’ll give you a minute here to build this mental image. Oh, for general design guidelines, think “early MySpace and bad original PowerPoint clipart.”

    OK, got it? I present to you:

    Autotruth

    How’d you do?

    Now, in case you’re thinking to yourself, “That’s not fair — it’s a 1999 web site! That’s forever ago!”, here’s what it evolved to by 2005.

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    Majority Will April 14, 2014 at 4:00 pm #

    justlw: Now, in case you’re thinking to yourself, “That’s not fair — it’s a 1999 web site! That’s forever ago!”, here’s what it evolved to by 2005.

    If we ain’t broke, don’t fix it?

    Most of their marketing budget probably went to buying odometers, Bondo, duct tape and bailing wire.

  17. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 14, 2014 at 4:05 pm #

    A couple of things suggest that birther donations might be declining: the lack of results and the alleged involvement of regular County Sheriff’s Office resources.

  18. avatar
    sactosintolerant April 14, 2014 at 4:13 pm #

    That article is a year old.

    I got a comment in back then as Born in HI… kinda.

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 4:44 pm #

    justlw: OK, got it? I present to you:

    Autotruth

    How’d you do?

    Now, in case you’re thinking to yourself, “That’s not fair — it’s a 1999 web site! That’s forever ago!”, here’s what it evolved to by 2005.

    Notice that in the older version he is listed as Mike Zullo, Jr. and in the most recent one he is just Mike Zullo.

    Is he trying to make people think he is, or isn’t, his father?

    And if you start adding up his years of experience in auto sales and police work/investigations you’re right around 40 which means he had to start one of them when he was about 12 or 13. What a guy!

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 4:46 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    A couple of things suggest that birther donations might be declining: the lack of results and the alleged involvement of regular County Sheriff’s Office resources.

    Setting aside Arpaio’s promise that taxpayer resources wouldn’t be used for the investigation what evidence have you seen to suggest that any work is being done by the regular staff?

    If anything it might be a ploy to help pry more dollars out of the gullible birthers.

  21. avatar
    Curious George April 14, 2014 at 5:24 pm #

    CarlOrcas,
    “And if you start adding up his years of experience in auto sales and police work/investigations you’re right around 40 which means he had to start one of them when he was about 12 or 13. What a guy!”

    And Galloops said Zullo and Arpaio had a combined 80 years of law enforcement experience. Arpaio is said to have 50 years of law enforcement experience. That would mean Zullo would have 30 years of LE experience. So now we have 30 years in LE and 20 years of automotive experience for a 50 year work history. That would mean Mr. Zullo was one very talented 3 year old!

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 14, 2014 at 5:45 pm #

    That MCSO statement seemed to suggest that two particular deputies were working on something that the spokesperson seemed to be able to tie tangentially to the birth certificate before they told him they weren’t. That is, he seemed to know what Zullo was talking about before he didn’t.

    But whether they are or not, birthers think they are because of what Zullo claimed.

    CarlOrcas: what evidence have you seen to suggest that any work is being done by the regular staff?

  23. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 14, 2014 at 5:53 pm #

    Oops.

    sactosintolerant: That article is a year old

  24. avatar
    Curious George April 14, 2014 at 5:59 pm #

    Dr. C.
    “But whether they are or not, birthers think they are because of what Zullo claimed.”

    Speaking about Birthers…..Here’s one guy that should make Birthers really proud. Put the women in front so they’ll get shot first. What kind of man would come up with this kind of warped strategy? (An ex-sheriff from Arizona.)

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/14/former-arizona-sheriff-reveals-chilling-strategy-to-put-women-up-at-the-front-during-bundy-ranch-standoff/

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 6:05 pm #

    Curious George:
    CarlOrcas,
    “And if you start adding up his years of experience in auto sales and police work/investigations you’re right around 40 which means he had to start one of them when he was about 12 or 13. What a guy!”

    And Galloops said Zullo and Arpaio had a combined 80 years of law enforcement experience. Arpaio is said to have 50 years of law enforcement experience.That would mean Zullo would have 30 years of LE experience. So now we have 30 years in LE and 20 years of automotive experience for a 50 year work history.That would mean Mr. Zullo was one very talented 3 year old!

    If this keeps going that direction they’ll have to call in Neil deGrasse Tyson to do a special segment of Cosmos on the magical pre-life of Mike Zullo.

  26. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 6:07 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    That MCSO statement seemed to suggest that two particular deputies were working on something that the spokesperson seemed to be able to tie tangentially to the birth certificate before they told him they weren’t. That is, he seemed to know what Zullo was talking about before he didn’t.

    But whether they are or not, birthers think they are because of what Zullo claimed.

    OK. I figured that was what you were talking about but just in case I thought I’d check: Nothing plus nothing still equals nothing.

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 6:14 pm #

    Curious George: Speaking about Birthers…..Here’s one guy that should make Birthers really proud. Put the women in front so they’ll get shot first. What kind of man would come up with this kind of warped strategy? (An ex-sheriff from Arizona.)

    Richard Mack is a fool but in this case he’s taken a step further: He’s a coward.

    The more we hear from Bundy and others, like Mack, the clearer it becomes that the BLM made a very wise decision.

  28. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 7:28 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Oops.

    Well then the question still stands: What is Mike Zullo doing to make a living today?

  29. avatar
    justlw April 14, 2014 at 7:47 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Notice that in the older version he is listed as Mike Zullo, Jr. and in the most recent one he is just Mike Zullo.

    I did notice this, and was hoping you might have some color commentary on it.

    Also: “Jr.” is usually used when the two people have the same full names. My brother and father have the same first name, but since his middle name is different, my brother is not “Junior”.

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    Bonsall Obot April 14, 2014 at 7:51 pm #

    CarlOrcas:

    Notice that in the older version he is listed as Mike Zullo, Jr. and in the most recent one he is just Mike Zullo.

    I forget; when did Zullo the Elder die? I ask because Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. became just plain Kurt Vonnegut after his father died, and that was a conscious decision on his part.

  31. avatar
    Rickey April 14, 2014 at 8:05 pm #

    The financial collapse meme has been a staple among conservatives for many years. I have a book published in 1968 called “Death of the Dollar” by William F. Rickenbacker, the adopted son of WWI flying ace Eddie Rickenbacker. The subtitle is “How the Money Managers are Saving Your Dollar and What You Most Do to Protect Yourself in the Coming Collapse.” Among other things, he recommended investing in gold mining stock (it was still illegal to own gold in 1968).

    Of course, we did have a near-collapse 40 years later.

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    Rickey April 14, 2014 at 8:07 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: I forget; when did Zullo the Elder die? I ask because Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. became just plain Kurt Vonnegut after his father died, and that was a conscious decision on his part.

    May 28, 2010. He was 81 years old.

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    Reality Check April 14, 2014 at 8:09 pm #

    I believe he died in May 2010. I found an obit for Michael J. Zullo of Scottsdale, AZ. dated 5/28/2010.

    I see Rickey found it too.

    Bonsall Obot: I forget; when did Zullo the Elder die?

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 8:24 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: I forget; when did Zullo the Elder die? I ask because Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. became just plain Kurt Vonnegut after his father died, and that was a conscious decision on his part.

    Rickey posted it….2010.

    I made note of it because it was the first time I’d ever seen our Zullo use junior and, given their different middle names, it really isn’t accurate.

    Beyond that I have no idea why he did it.

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    Curious George April 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Well then the question still stands: What is Mike Zullo doing to make a living today?

    He’s taking in donations for his non-profit CCCP with no accountability to anyone. That is a prescription for disaster.

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    CarlOrcas April 14, 2014 at 9:51 pm #

    Curious George: He’s taking in donations for his non-profit CCCP with no accountability to anyone.That is a prescription for disaster.

    I’m inclined to agree with Doc (with no real information other than my guts) that donations have probably slowed down to a trickle.

    How much he’s spent and how much he has left in the bank are questions he should answer……quickly.

    And, no matter what he does, it’s a disaster.

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    alg April 14, 2014 at 10:24 pm #

    So, given that it’s been ten months since Zullo supposedly started his new career, one can’t help but wonder how it’s working for him? I hope somebody advised him not to give up his day job as the Uber Commandante Overlord of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse since that was going so well for him.

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    bgansel9 April 14, 2014 at 10:49 pm #

    CarlOrcas: If anything it might be a ploy to help pry more dollars out of the gullible birthers.

    I think it is. I called the MCSO a few weeks ago and asked if the Sheriff’s office was involved in the investigation of Obama’s birth certificate and was told that it was not.

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    bgansel9 April 14, 2014 at 10:51 pm #

    CarlOrcas: How much he’s spent and how much he has left in the bank are questions he should answer……quickly.

    Judging by the appearance of the fundraising video, it appears the answers are a.) pretty much all of it and b.) not much.

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    bgansel9 April 14, 2014 at 11:10 pm #

    Rickey:
    I have a book published in 1968 called “Death of the Dollar” by William F. Rickenbacker, the adopted son of WWI flying ace Eddie Rickenbacker. The subtitle is “How the Money Managers are Saving Your Dollar and What You Most Do to Protect Yourself in the Coming Collapse.”

    I remember seeing a book about financial collapse on the A&P supermarket bookshelf back in the mid 70′s. People have been making money off of economic collapse for a very long time. I just checked Amazon and there are a gazillion of them now.

    It just occurred to me that the crazy rightwingers are probably all victims of having read this psycho-paranoid rhetoric.

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    The Magic M April 15, 2014 at 5:07 am #

    CarlOrcas: Richard Mack is a fool but in this case he’s taken a step further: He’s a coward.

    Most wingnuts are. Those who would actually take up arms against the government are a select few compared to the thousands who just claim they would.

    Even most of the “militia” who pilgrimaged to the Bundy ranch would probably have gone running once the first shot fell.

    alg: I hope somebody advised him not to give up his day job as the Uber Commandante Overlord of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse since that was going so well for him.

    It would explain why he hasn’t done anything related to birtherism except making announcements for a year now – he just wants to keep that fire glowing in case his day trading bankrupts him.

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    CarlOrcas April 15, 2014 at 10:59 am #

    The Magic M: Most wingnuts are. Those who would actually take up arms against the government are a select few compared to the thousands who just claim they would.

    Even most of the “militia” who pilgrimaged to the Bundy ranch would probably have gone running once the first shot fell.

    All true but the problem is it only takes one truly crazy person to start something terrible.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 15, 2014 at 11:03 am #

    CarlOrcas: All true but the problem is it only takes one truly crazy person to start something terrible.

    Yeah, a lot of that military gear they buy is compensation for their tiny, tiny, tiny…self esteems! ;)

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    Rickey April 15, 2014 at 11:30 am #

    alg:
    So, given that it’s been ten months since Zullo supposedly started his new career, one can’t help but wonder how it’s working for him?I hope somebody advised him not to give up his day job as the Uber Commandante Overlord of the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse since that was going so well for him.

    And don’t forget, he claimed that he was working 60-80 hours a week on Obama.

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    Rickey April 15, 2014 at 11:40 am #

    bgansel9:

    It just occurred to me that the crazy rightwingers are probably all victims of having read this psycho-paranoid rhetoric.

    There is a powerful strain of gullibility which makes them predisposed to believe anything which fits with their world view, no matter how preposterous. A person I went to school with, a very well educated person, posted a note on Facebook last week claiming that the Affordable Care Act has a provision in it which will cut off Medicare for anyone over the age of 75. I have no idea where she got such an idea. She calmed down a little bit when I told her the Medicare cuts built into the ACA are the exact same cuts which Paul Ryan has proposed in his budget.

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    Curious George April 15, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

    Rickey

    “And don’t forget, he claimed that he was working 60-80 hours a week on Obama.”

    Actually, he has made the claim that he works on his investimagination 24/7. That would be 168 hours a week, leaving no time for anything else.

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    bgansel9 April 16, 2014 at 12:12 am #

    Rickey: She calmed down a little bit when I told her the Medicare cuts built into the ACA are the exact same cuts which Paul Ryan has proposed in his budget.

    I wish I’d been there to see that.

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    bgansel9 April 16, 2014 at 12:18 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Yeah, a lot of that military gear they buy is compensation for their tiny, tiny, tiny…self esteems!

    I saw what you did there… and I liked it. :P

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    The Magic M April 16, 2014 at 4:52 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Yeah, a lot of that military gear they buy is compensation for their tiny, tiny, tiny…self esteems!

    I have a big d..k to compensate for the fact I don’t own a sports car. ;)

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    roadburner April 16, 2014 at 6:52 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Yeah, a lot of that military gear they buy is compensation for their tiny, tiny, tiny…self esteems!

    i used to buy and wear a lot of military surplus gear in my more financially challenged years. good hardwearing stuff, dirt cheap, and dead practical for using on a bike..

    that was until university students took it on as a fashion and the price went through the roof :(

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    Notorial Dissent April 16, 2014 at 8:49 am #

    The only thing I can think of funnier than Zullo the Klown cop, is Zullo the investment adviser, or certainly more scary at least.

    I’ve known a lot of brokers, and traders over the last few years, and trust me, he has none of the qualities required to be either. He might survive at a brokerage boiler room taking calls, but he wouldn’t know what to do if someone wasn’t telling him. Now I can see him working a boiler room selling bogus stocks, his used car salesman experience might be a good fit there, but I can’t see him working anywhere that required knowledge or ethics. He doesn’t have any. As to him being a day trader, that is even funnier, that is gambling without all the fun, and again, he’s just not smart enough to survive, let alone figure out how to work the screens you’d need to use, since most day traders are doing it electronically as the brokerages generally charge for live trading calls anymore. I watched a couple of day traders once, they churned a lot of stock on a daily basis(as in big dollar amounts), and made literally dollars on the transactions, they usually came out ahead but that was about it, the company I worked for made lots of money off them, but I was never convinced the traders ever actually made all that much. The thought of Zullo playing the market, or worse yet advising someone on doing so is not a pretty thought.

    Just as an aside, unless AZ is markedly different than other states, he probably would have to be registered and licensed for most any kind of advisory business. Soemthign else I don’t see happening.

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    CarlOrcas April 16, 2014 at 11:03 am #

    The Magic M: I have a big d..k to compensate for the fact I don’t own a sports car.

    Dreams of an MG Midget?

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    The Magic M (not logged in) April 16, 2014 at 1:38 pm #

    Notorial Dissent: The thought of Zullo playing the market, or worse yet advising someone on doing so is not a pretty thought.

    He’d probably tell his followers to invest in frogs, nooses and black skin piercing ammo, because any day now.

    (In a way, birthers having replaced “any day now” literally with “any hour now” are, metaphorically speaking, day-trading in futures that will not come to be.)

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    Bonsall Obot April 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm #

    So after over two years and (literally) countless thousands of dollars, the only wrongdoing the Klown Kar investigation has exposed has been… wrongdoing on the part of the Klown Kar posse.

    And this is their Great White Hope?

    Please proceed, Kommandante. You couldn’t be helping the President more if you were on Great Leader Soros’ payroll.

    (Dissident Birfers, please feel free to run with the theory that Kommandante Zullo is an Alinskyite Double Agent in the employ of Soros. Throw in some BENGHAZI!, if you have time.)

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    Jim April 16, 2014 at 9:55 pm #

    CarlOrcas: Well……that is interesting. Hopefully it will be done in public so we know what is happening.

    Knowing Arpaio…he’ll be tossing Zullo under the bus some time this summer.

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    CarlOrcas April 16, 2014 at 10:05 pm #

    Jim: Knowing Arpaio…he’ll be tossing Zullo under the bus some time this summer.

    Yes…..if Judge Snow doesn’t get him first. I’d say the Toughest Sheriff in the universe may be heading for another judicial smackdown:

    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2014/04/joe_arpaios_lawyer_tim_casey_c.php

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    The Magic M April 17, 2014 at 3:59 am #

    CarlOrcas: the Toughest Sheriff in the universe

    We should put Arpaio and Mack in an Uncelebrity Deathmatch to find out who deserves that title. “Two men walk in, reason runs away screaming.” ;)

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    RanTalbott April 17, 2014 at 6:26 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: That MCSO statement seemed to suggest that two particular deputies were working on something that the spokesperson seemed to be able to tie tangentially to the birth certificate before they told him they weren’t.

    I thought he said it was related to the investigation, not the BC, itself.

    My speculation was (and still is) that the CCP got a tip on an unrelated crime (like, say, “I think my neighbor is cooking meth, but I don’t want him to know I ratted him out. Would you pass the word to the Sheriff for me?”), and claimed credit because they wanted to be seen as delivering _something_ tangible after all this time.

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    CarlOrcas April 17, 2014 at 11:15 am #

    The Magic M: We should put Arpaio and Mack in an Uncelebrity Deathmatch to find out who deserves that title. “Two men walk in, reason runs away screaming.”

    I like it! Maybe Doc should work on getting the internet rights?

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG April 17, 2014 at 1:25 pm #

    CarlOrcas: I like it! Maybe Doc should work on getting the internet rights?

    Just fire up any Wrestling or MMA game with a create-a-fighter feature! I remember when Anti-violent game advocate and ex-Lawyer Jack Thompson threw a teeth gnashing tantrum about someone making a facsimile of him on Mortal Kombat Armageddon. :)

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    Curious George April 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm #

    Speaking about Commandant Zoo-Low, his alter ego from Cave Creek,AZ Zippy Joe Mannix brings us the following ___________ (fill in the blank) Shattering news over at Birther Recyle (BR).

    “The reason no donations haven’t been solicited by Gallups or the CCP in the last few interviews is because there is no need. The CCP’s work is basically done.” Joe Mannix.

    (And Zippy Joe, the double negative is really impressive.)

    So there you have it folks. The CCP investimagination is over. Those tiresome, over hyped, Karl Gal-Loops interviews will now hopefully come to a close. The only thing left is to wait for the Zoo-Low / Gal-Loops book to be published by World Nut Diddly, explaining why the Cold Cut Posse ignored all of the evidence that President Obama was born in Hawaii and why everyone failed to take them seriously. So Joe, how many thousands of dollars in donations have been raised and wasted by the CCP since 2011?

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    Rickey April 21, 2014 at 1:31 am #

    The other day I sent a letter to the Demarest, N.J. Police Department pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Records Act, requesting the following information about Zullo:

    1. Was Mr. Zullo ever employed by the Demarest Police Department?

    2. If he was employed, what were the dates of his employment (start date and end date)?

    3. If he was employed, please provide the job titles which he held.

    4. If he was employed, please advise if he resigned or if his employment was involuntarily terminated.

    5. To your knowledge, was Mr. Zullo ever employed by any other law enforcement agency in the State of New Jersey?

    They are required to respond within seven working days.

  63. avatar
    CarlOrcas April 21, 2014 at 2:04 am #

    Rickey:
    The other day I sent a letter to the Demarest, N.J. Police Department pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Records Act, requesting the following information about Zullo:

    1. Was Mr. Zullo ever employed by the Demarest Police Department?

    2. If he was employed, what were the dates of his employment (start date and end date)?

    3. If he was employed, please provide the job titles which he held.

    4. If he was employed, please advise if he resigned or if his employment was involuntarily terminated.

    5. To your knowledge, was Mr. Zullo ever employed by any other law enforcement agency in the State of New Jersey?

    They are required to respond within seven working days.

    Nice work!! Can’t wait to see what you get in response.

  64. avatar
    Sef April 21, 2014 at 11:07 am #

    Curious George: “The reason no donations haven’t been solicited by Gallups or the CCP in the last few interviews is because there is no need. The CCP’s work is basically done.” Joe Mannix.

    IOW, because of the audit, Zullo got a real lawyer who told him to STFU.

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    Rickey April 21, 2014 at 11:12 am #

    CarlOrcas: Nice work!! Can’t wait to see what you get in response.

    I was careful to point out that I am not requesting any information which is protected by Federal or state privacy laws. I didn’t ask for his date of birth, SSN, home address in New Jersey, etc. And to make it as easy as possible I told then that they can comply by answering my questions instead of providing me with documents.

    In the event that Zullo still knows someone in the department, I did not use my home address. I have a P.O. Box in a different Zip Code which I use for work from time to time.

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    CarlOrcas April 21, 2014 at 12:21 pm #

    Rickey: I was careful to point out that I am not requesting any information which is protected by Federal or state privacy laws. I didn’t ask for his date of birth, SSN, home address in New Jersey, etc. And to make it as easy as possible I told then that they can comply by answering my questions instead of providing me with documents.

    In the event that Zullo still knows someone in the department, I did not use my home address. I have a P.O. Box in a different Zip Code which I use for work from time to time.

    Well done! My guess is Demarest doesn’t get a lot of FOIA requests so hopefully they will just do the right thing and answer your questions.

    One other thing: Did you send it by registered mail?

  67. avatar
    Curious George April 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm #

    Registered mail is the only way to fly.

  68. avatar
    Rickey April 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm #

    CarlOrcas:

    One other thing: Did you send it by registered mail?

    No, not for a first request. I doubt that the Demarest P.D. gets a half dozen open records requests a year, and my experience with government agencies in the northeast is that they are very responsive to such requests. I’m assuming that they will respond in a timely manner, but I’ll up the ante if I have to.