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Scary view into the mind of a Trump supporter

The Washington Post has a new article up, titled “Finally. Someone who thinks like me.” The article is about someone who came to believe that Obama’s probably a gay Muslim from Kenya whose wife is a man, and on and on. They believe they have found a soul mate in Donald Trump.

I don’t think the poor lady is a dishonest businessman like Trump, but you can see in this article how a Trump supporter might have come to support the man.

91 Responses to Scary view into the mind of a Trump supporter

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    sactosintolerant October 3, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

    Although the article doesn’t explicitly state she believes conspiracy theories about Scalia’s death, I love this part about her boyfriend near the end:

    “Kevin was asleep on the couch with a pillow over his head”

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    Scientist October 3, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

    So did anyone notice that the Trump tax returns published by the NY Times had the first 2 figures on the $ 909 million loss not lining up with the other figures. Turns out that the accountant’s software could only enter losses up to $ 9,999,999, so he had to type the first 2 figures in manually. Stuff like that happens in the real world. But imagine what the birthers would make of that if it were a document of Obama’s.

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    Arthur B. October 3, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

    Susanne Craig, the reporter who was mailed the leaked Trump tax return pages, was on TV this morning, and was asked whether she knew the identity of the source.

    Her response? “No comment.”

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    Arthur October 3, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

    After reading the article, I’d say Nancy Owens has a soul mate in Pennsylvania.

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    Steve October 3, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

    Arthur:
    After reading the article, I’d say Nancy Owens has a soul mate in Pennsylvania.

    Didn’t something like that used to be on their license plates? “You’ve got a friend in Pennsylvania.”

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    misha October 3, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

    Steve: “You’ve got a friend in Pennsylvania.”

    “You’ve Got a Friend in Pennsylvania” debuted in 1980.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2013/08/30/youve-got-a-friend-in-pennsylvania.html

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    misha October 4, 2016 at 1:37 am #

    “I don’t think the poor lady is a dishonest businessman like Trump”

    I read the entire story. No, she’s merely unhinged like Trump.

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    Sam the Centipede October 4, 2016 at 5:02 am #

    Scientist:
    So did anyone notice that the Trump tax returns published by the NY Times had the first 2 figures on the $ 909 million loss not lining up with the other figures.Turns out that the accountant’s software could only enter losses up to $ 9,999,999, so he had to type the first 2 figures in manually.Stuff like that happens in the real world.But imagine what the birthers would make of that if it were a document of Obama’s.

    Get Douglas Vogt on the job! Consult Reed Hayes! Mike Zullo must launch an investigation! Clearly this is a fraudulent forgery perpetrated by Donald Trump trying to hide, oh, some facts!

    This brought to you by the slime mold that in a petri dish that I use to mimic birther brain processes.

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    Rickey October 4, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

    Scientist:
    So did anyone notice that the Trump tax returns published by the NY Times had the first 2 figures on the $ 909 million loss not lining up with the other figures.Turns out that the accountant’s software could only enter losses up to $ 9,999,999, so he had to type the first 2 figures in manually.Stuff like that happens in the real world.But imagine what the birthers would make of that if it were a document of Obama’s.

    Also note that he paid himself only $6,108 in wages, meaning that he paid nearly nothing into Social Security.

    His interest income of $7.4 million seems impressive until you consider that he claims to be a billionaire. In 1995 large negotiable certificates of deposit were paying about 8%, so the principal value of his interest-bearing investments was perhaps $100 million.

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    misha October 4, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    This mayor won’t stop posting racist Obama memes. He won’t resign, either:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/03/this-mayor-wont-stop-posting-racist-obama-memes-he-wont-resign-either/

    “I think the age of Trump has given a license for this kind of activity,” Mauck said.”

    “One of the memes shows a group of orangutans in a wheelbarrow. “Aww … moving day at the Whitehouse has finally arrived,” it says.”

    “Probably the most inflammatory one was about President Obama. It shows a picture of actor Clint Eastwood in the film “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly” — and a noose. “Barry, this rope is for you,” the caption says, referring to a nickname for the first black president. “You wanna bring that empty chair over here!”

    One of his supporters posted her name with the theme (((*))). The triple parentheses are code for white supremacists and anti-Semites.

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    Scientist October 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    Rickey: Also note that he paid himself only $6,108 in wages, meaning that he paid nearly nothing into Social Security.

    His interest income of $7.4 million seems impressive until you consider that he claims to be a billionaire. In 1995 large negotiable certificates of deposit were paying about 8%, so the principal value of his interest-bearing investments was perhaps $100 million.

    Business owners paying themselves a ridiculously small wage is fairly standard, though he is pushing it bigly (as Trump would say). The IRS is supposed to crack down on this, but rarely if ever does. The state doesn’t care, since unemployment is the only wage tax in NY and that probably maxed out at that level in 1995.

    As far as his interest earnings, his assets were his buildings and he probably didn’t hold much cash. The interesting thing is I have heard analyses that say that had he took the money his father left him and put it in an S & P 500 fund it would be worth more today than even the inflated net worth he claims. I don’t know, but it’s possible.

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    Sef October 4, 2016 at 5:15 pm #

    Scientist: The state doesn’t care, since unemployment is the only wage tax in NY

    You don’t consider income tax on wages a “wage tax”?

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 4, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

    I read that Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX is paid the minimum wage.

    Scientist: Business owners paying themselves a ridiculously small wage is fairly standard,

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    Crustacean October 4, 2016 at 6:13 pm #

    If we’re talking about, say, an S-corp, the business’s income is taxed on the owner’s personal return. What Scientist is talking about are payroll taxes, like FICA or unemployment tax, that are paid on W-2 wages. The owner is supposed to take a “reasonable” wage, to wit: if you were to hire someone to do the owner’s job, what would be a reasonable salary. I don’t think $6,108 is a reasonable salary for anyone. On the other hand, if the business is a loser – y’know, like pretty much all of Donald Trump’s endeavors – the owner’s salary requirement is supposed to go away. That said, I have heard of tax courts imposing payroll taxes on an owner’s distributions even when the business was in the red (doesn’t make any sense to me, but as my boss often tells me, don’t try to make sense of tax law). The IRS may not crack down on this “bigly” (tee-hee), but I always warn my clients not to take a bunch of s-corp distributions or “loan” payments (wink wink) without taking sufficient W-2 wages, because the IRS could call all of those distributions wages and take their pound of payroll tax flesh. And if it’s really bad, they could strip the corporate protection from the biz altogether.

    But to be fair to Donald, he has been known to use the phrase “big league”, so I think it’s possible he may have been unfairly criticized for saying “bigly”.

    Sef: You don’t consider income tax on wages a “wage tax”?

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    Crustacean October 4, 2016 at 6:52 pm #

    It’s true. And he never even took the money.

    Based on California’s minimum wage of $9/hour, and Musk’s compensation of $37,584, he averaged 80.3 hours per week in 2015. Man, is that guy running a sweatshop, or what!! Making your minimum-wage earners work that many hours a week must be against the law! 🙂

    Dr. Conspiracy: I read that Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX is paid the minimum wage.

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    misha October 4, 2016 at 8:54 pm #

    Parade float-maker apologizes (sort of) for depicting Trump executing Clinton in electric chair – The float also featured an Easter Island head painted black with a black face and a sign that identified it as President Obama.

    http://www.wcpo.com/news/region-indiana/dearborn-county/parade-float-maker-apologizes-sort-of-for-depicting-trump-executing-clinton-in-electric-chair

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    Scientist October 4, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I read that Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX is paid the minimum wage.

    When Steve Jobs returned to Apple after his ouster, his salary was $1/year. This lasted from 1997 to 2011. Of course he got options that ended up being worth many billions.

    http://www.fool.com/how-to-invest/personal-finance/2014/02/01/why-did-steve-jobs-only-make-1-a-year-and-what-you.aspx

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    Scientist October 4, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

    Crustacean: If we’re talking about, say, an S-corp, the business’s income is taxed on the owner’s personal return. What Scientist is talking about are payroll taxes, like FICA or unemployment tax, that are paid on W-2 wages. The owner is supposed to take a “reasonable” wage, to wit: if you were to hire someone to do the owner’s job, what would be a reasonable salary.

    I have an S-corp and my accountant told me the same thing.

    And Trump’s accountant, Jack Mitnick, says Trump was no genius about his taxes. Mitnick prepared the returns and Trump signed them. End of story

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    The Magic M (not logged in) October 5, 2016 at 7:07 am #

    misha: she’s merely unhinged like Trump

    And one of the “moochers” her own ilk usually claims to hate. Hard-working Americans pay $$$ so she has time to pursue her hatred of everything, including reality, 24/7.
    If anyone is a poster child for “cracking down on welfare”, she is.

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    RUTH KESSLER October 5, 2016 at 11:31 am #

    I read that too and I think a mental hospital was a good place for this woman.

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    Rickey October 5, 2016 at 6:46 pm #

    Scientist: As far as his interest earnings, his assets were his buildings and he probably didn’t hold much cash.

    Mark Cuban (a real billionaire who doubts that Trump is a billionaire) has said that he believes that Trump’s assets are mostly not liquid. Valuing real estate can be very subjective. And we don’t know how many of his real estate holdings are encumbered.

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    egharcsar October 5, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

    http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/never-before-seen-video-obama-whines-about-white-privilege/

    Hi doc C, Been a while. Here’s a link that will show a film made by auma obama called by A Journey in black and white.

    She made a documentary of Barack’s early and first vist to Kenya. Please watch. The are many references and clear images of a young Barack ( who comes across as brilliant) and a his fiance. We may agree later that it is indeed an M Robinson. He’s already wearing a ring!

    At one point a family member discussing Kenyan values expresses displeasure. I think this my be the purpose of thins thread.

    btw trump, really? egh

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    misha October 6, 2016 at 9:54 pm #

    I predict Trump will not concede. I believe Roger Stone and Steve Bannon will advise him to make a speech, that the election was rigged.

    I feel this will trigger militias that rallied in Nevada and Oregon, and be more than threatening violence.

    Clinton was president during Waco, and was elected president in the 1992 election; he was successfully campaigning during Ruby Ridge.

    Thoughts?

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    misha October 6, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

    I copied these from Slate. My favorite screen name there is “Atlas Shirked.”

    “I hope you all get out and vote”
    said Donald J. Trump, in a note
    as his throat was still sore
    because two nights before
    He had Pepe the Frog in his throat

    There once lived a troll in a dump
    Whose fortunes had hit quite a slump
    He’d wasted his life
    And blamed “other” for strife
    So now he’ll be voting for Trump.

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    Crustacean October 7, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

    Samantha Bee’s show did a fascinating presentation on this.

    “Trump and his supporters are absolutely terrified of riggers.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

    misha: I predict Trump will not concede. I believe Roger Stone and Steve Bannon will advise him to make a speech, that the election was rigged.

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

    Crustacean: Samantha Bee’s show did a fascinating presentation on this.

    Voting for Hillary 15 times? Really, Donald?

    Works for me. Where do I sign up? Shoot, 15 times is way too little to vote against Trump. More! More!

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    Thrifty October 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm #

    I can’t predict Trump’s reaction one way or the other. He’s been pretty mercurial the whole time.

    I think there will DEFINITELY be people planning violent attacks, but I have a lot of faith in our law enforcement agencies to keep the peace.

    I recently knew a Trump supporter, and I remember him saying “Hillary will win, even though Donald Trump has the votes, because the system is so rigged”.

    I think a lot of Trump supporters love Trump so much, and hate Clinton so much, that they can’t fathom more than a handful of people actually voting for her. The only rational explanation for a Clinton victory would be voter fraud.

    There are always supporters of a given candidate that can’t fathom people voting for the other candidate. I know some disgruntled Bernie Sanders supporters who, though they don’t exactly cry “fraud”, they do say that American Democracy itself is a sham, and that the system was rigged against Sanders.

    There are probably also a decent number of fairly rational Trump VOTERS who aren’t particularly SUPPORTERS. These are people who really just voting against Clinton instead of for Trump per se.

    misha:
    I predict Trump will not concede. I believe Roger Stone and Steve Bannon will advise him to make a speech, that the election was rigged.

    I feel this will trigger militias that rallied in Nevada and Oregon, and be more than threatening violence.

    Clinton was president during Waco, and was elected president in the 1992 election; he was successfully campaigning during Ruby Ridge.

    Thoughts?

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    Thrifty October 7, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

    That was a fun piece. The correspondents kinda fast-talked the Trump supporters into revealing their own flawed logic. In a nutshell, you just kept hearing “If Trump loses, which he won’t, it will be because of a rigged election.”

    Crustacean:
    Samantha Bee’s show did a fascinating presentation on this.

    “Trump and his supporters are absolutely terrified of riggers.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op9Bkpeu4s

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

    Thrifty: I think there will DEFINITELY be people planning violent attacks, but I have a lot of faith in our law enforcement agencies to keep the peace.

    That’s exactly how I feel.

    To John, Nancy and other Trump supporters here: I have already voted for Hilary three times.

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

    Trump: Feds Are Letting Immigrants ‘Pour Into The Country’ To Vote

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-border-patrol-undocumented-immigrants-voting

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    Thrifty October 7, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

    I hope you’re just being facetious on that.

    I actually mailed in my absentee ballot on Monday, with a vote for Hillary Clinton, plus some votes on down ticket local offices I really felt strongly about, and some where I didn’t really know the candidates or the office enough to have a strong opinion so I went kinda randomly. I went absentee because I’m moving to Indiana next week, and won’t be in the state until after the registration deadline passes. Except I also mailed in a registration form for Indiana last week… So I might be registered to vote in two states. That’s of questionable legality and ethics so I think maybe I’ll just stay home on election day.

    misha: That’s exactly how I feel.

    To John, Nancy and other Trump supporters here: I have already voted for Hilary three times.

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

    How long does it take from Green Card to US citizenship?

    https://www.us-immigration.com/blog/how-long-does-it-take-from-green-card-to-u-s-citizenship

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

    Thrifty: I hope you’re just being facetious on that.

    I voted for Hillary Clinton once, and Hilary (my other cat) twice in two different “Most beautiful Siamese” contests.

    My favorite comment on http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-border-patrol-undocumented-immigrants-voting

    “I’m OK with at least a couple more pouring in. This crew replacing my roof is really behind schedule.”

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 7, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

    I knew that one. 5 years.

    misha: How long does it take from Green Card to US citizenship?

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    misha October 7, 2016 at 10:41 pm #

    From the comments in “Donald Trump Is Setting a Time Bomb”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/donald_trump_is_setting_a_time_bomb_for_racial_violence_on_election_day.html

    “urging his soldiers to return home to plant crops and to move on with their lives.” Quite the opposite. After he loses the election, he will return to egging on the pitchfork-waving mob with even more self-justification. The biggest problem with this? They don’t really have pitchforks, they have guns. Lots of guns. And they’re enraged beyond reason.

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    Arthur B. October 7, 2016 at 11:29 pm #

    CNN BREAKING NEWS:

    “Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Friday night became the first sitting Republican member of Congress to pull his support of Donald Trump in the wake of sexually aggressive remarks by the GOP presidential nominee.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/donald-trump-women-vulgar/index.html

    “Chaffetz, the House Oversight Committee chairman, made the announcement in an interview with CNN affiliate KSTU.

    “‘I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine,’ Chaffetz said.”

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    gorefan October 8, 2016 at 1:48 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I knew that one. 5 years.

    IIRC, it’s three years if you are married to a U.S. citizen.

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    Keith October 8, 2016 at 2:32 am #

    Arthur B.:
    CNN BREAKING NEWS:

    “Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Friday night became the first sitting Republican member of Congress to pull his support of Donald Trump in the wake of sexually aggressive remarks by the GOP presidential nominee.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/donald-trump-women-vulgar/index.html

    “Chaffetz, the House Oversight Committee chairman, made the announcement in an interview with CNN affiliate KSTU.

    “‘I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine,’ Chaffetz said.”

    I’ve already got Clinton winning FL, OH, and PA. NC probably. Trumps done like a dinner.

    I am pretty sure Chaffetz and Huntsman just stuck a fork in him in Utah and Arizona.

    Trump is looking like he just might make a play for Dukakis’ record.

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    Scientist October 8, 2016 at 4:29 am #

    Arthur B.:
    CNN BREAKING NEWS:

    “Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Friday night became the first sitting Republican member of Congress to pull his support of Donald Trump in the wake of sexually aggressive remarks by the GOP presidential nominee.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/donald-trump-women-vulgar/index.html

    “Chaffetz, the House Oversight Committee chairman, made the announcement in an interview with CNN affiliate KSTU.

    “‘I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine,’ Chaffetz said.”

    These Republicans should go down with their ship, shouldn’t they? It’s not like Trump isn’t constitutionally qualified to be the Groper-in-Chief, right?

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    Thrifty October 8, 2016 at 8:52 am #

    Arizona I could buy; it’s right leaning but not very much. Still. there is no chance Utah goes for a Democrat. I know Trump is pretty unpopular among the heavily Mormon population there, but I have a feeling the net effect might be lower voter turnout in Utah (because voters can’t bear to vote for either Clinton or Trump), but still not enough to swing it to Clinton.

    I just wish this stupid election would be over with already.

    Keith: I’ve already got Clinton winning FL, OH, and PA. NC probably. Trumps done like a dinner.

    I am pretty sure Chaffetz and Huntsman just stuck a fork in him in Utah and Arizona.

    Trump is looking like he just might make a play for Dukakis’ record.

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    Scientist October 8, 2016 at 8:58 am #

    Thrifty:
    Arizona I could buy; it’s right leaning but not very much.Still. there is no chance Utah goes for a Democrat.I know Trump is pretty unpopular among the heavily Mormon population there, but I have a feeling the net effect might be lower voter turnout in Utah (because voters can’t bear to vote for either Clinton or Trump), but still not enough to swing it to Clinton.

    I just wish this stupid election would be over with already.

    The thinking on Utah is that McMullin is a Mormon and may do pretty well there. Johnson may also get quite a few votes, since he’s from a neighboring state and there is a libertarian streak in Utah. With all that splitting, Hillary could sneak through.

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    Arthur B. October 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

    OK, here’s my proposed town hall question:

    Was Nancy O’Dell’s furniture paid for by the Trump Foundation?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

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    Dave B. October 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

    McCain’s finally had it, too:
    “Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy,” McCain said.
    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/100816_mccain_trump/mccain-i-will-not-vote-donald-trump-mcsally-mum-endorsement/

    Arthur B.:
    CNN BREAKING NEWS:

    “Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Friday night became the first sitting Republican member of Congress to pull his support of Donald Trump in the wake of sexually aggressive remarks by the GOP presidential nominee.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/07/politics/donald-trump-women-vulgar/index.html

    “Chaffetz, the House Oversight Committee chairman, made the announcement in an interview with CNN affiliate KSTU.

    “‘I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine,’ Chaffetz said.”

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    Thrifty October 8, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

    But high profile jerks like Donald Trump have been around for a while. Citizen Trump is nothing new; Candidate Trump is a sad new threshold. President Trump would be a terrifyng disaster. But I think that as a private citizen, Trump won’t be much more dangerous than Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage or any other hard right troublemaker.

    misha:
    From the comments in “Donald Trump Is Setting a Time Bomb”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/donald_trump_is_setting_a_time_bomb_for_racial_violence_on_election_day.html

    “urging his soldiers to return home to plant crops and to move on with their lives.” Quite the opposite. After he loses the election, he will return to egging on the pitchfork-waving mob with even more self-justification. The biggest problem with this? They don’t really have pitchforks, they have guns. Lots of guns. And they’re enraged beyond reason.

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    Scientist October 8, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

    Dave B.:
    McCain’s finally had it, too:
    “Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy,” McCain said.
    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/100816_mccain_trump/mccain-i-will-not-vote-donald-trump-mcsally-mum-endorsement/

    i wish I could say that the Republicans abandoning Trump were showing moral courage, but I think it’s much more banal. They now see there is no way he can win and have decided that it is not to their benefit to be associated with his train wreck of a campaign.

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    Rickey October 8, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

    Dave B.:
    McCain’s finally had it, too:

    Add Condoleezza Rice to the growing list.

    “Enough! Donald Trump should not be President. He should withdraw,”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/condi-rice-donald-trump-229385

    Trump fans on Facebook are freaking out.

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    misha October 8, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

    I don’t know, but many people are saying, very important people and very smart people are saying that Trump is not his father’s son. I don’t know, I was not there, but people are saying these things. I’m sure his mom was a nice lady, but you never know, if it’s true, it’s a disgrace. What a shame. But, I don’t know, I have no proof. I’ll send my private investigators to find out, and we’ll all know. You can thank me later.

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    misha October 8, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

    Thrifty: But I think that as a private citizen, Trump won’t be much more dangerous than Glenn Beck

    Beck denies being “responsible” for planned massacre at office of group he demonized

    http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/07/29/beck-denies-being-responsible-for-planned-massa/168480

    Here’s my treatment of Glenn Beck:

    http://didglennbeckrapeandmurderagirl.blogspot.com/

  49. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy October 8, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

    Will you be here all week?

    misha: You can thank me later.

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    misha October 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Will you be here all week?

    bada-bing

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    misha October 9, 2016 at 1:04 pm #

    Inside Trump Tower, an Increasingly Upset and Alone Donald Trump

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/us/politics/trump-tower.html

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    Notorial Dissent October 9, 2016 at 7:25 pm #

    I would think he is well beyond upset at this point, livid, furious, frothign at the mouth, chewing the carpets, now that I could get behind. How dare anyone question his wonderfulness and superiority.

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    Scientist October 9, 2016 at 7:48 pm #

    Notorial Dissent:
    I would think he is well beyond upset at this point, livid, furious, frothign at the mouth, chewing the carpets, now that I could get behind. How dare anyone question his wonderfulness and superiority.

    Right now, he’s trotting out various women who have made accusations against Bill Clinton. He appears to believe this is 1998.

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    Arthur B. October 10, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

    Something else worth considering: Those voters who stick with their third-party choices (Johnson or Stein) can still choose D or R candidates for Congress.

    They may be a factor in determining Senate and House control. Has anyone seen this issue addressed?

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    Rickey October 10, 2016 at 4:02 pm #

    Arthur B.:
    Something else worth considering: Those voters who stick with their third-party choices (Johnson or Stein) can still choose D or R candidates for Congress.

    They may be a factor in determining Senate and House control. Has anyone seen this issue addressed?

    I haven’t seen any specific analyses of how Stein and Johnson might affect the Congressional races, but Nate Silver says that the Democrats now have a 57.8% chance of taking control of the Senate.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

    That number is subject to change, and he updates it several times each day.

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    Arthur B. October 10, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

    Rickey: I haven’t seen any specific analyses of how Stein and Johnson might affect the Congressional races, but Nate Silver says that the Democrats now have a 57.8% chance of taking control of the Senate.

    Yes, I’ve been following that, and I expect the Dems to take the Senate. I guess my question was really geared more toward the House, about which David Wasserman at 538 says:

    “If Democrats’ seat share continues to lag their national vote share by about 4 percentage points in 2016, the party might need to win about 8 percent more votes than Republicans nationally just to reach the barest possible majority of 218 seats.

    “It’s very possible Clinton could achieve that margin of victory…”

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-house-majority-is-safe-right/

    I’m wondering how the calculation that Dems need 8% more than Reps might be affected by the addition (on either side) of the third-party voters.

  57. avatar
    misha October 11, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

    ‘Unprecedented’ Rift Among Republicans Puts Party’s Survival in Limbo, Experts Say

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unprecedented-rift-republicans-puts-partys-survival-limbo-experts/story?id=42723582

  58. avatar
    Scientist October 11, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

    misha:
    ‘Unprecedented’ Rift Among Republicans Puts Party’s Survival in Limbo, Experts Say

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unprecedented-rift-republicans-puts-partys-survival-limbo-experts/story?id=42723582

    Couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of people.

  59. avatar
    misha October 12, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

    Trump Supporter Tells Mike Pence She’s ‘Ready For A Revolution’ If Hillary Clinton Wins

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-revolution_us_57fdaaa6e4b0e9c70229deba

  60. avatar
    misha October 12, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

    Don’t forgive the Republicans who sold their souls and backed Donald Trump

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-republican-party-suicide-20161012-story.html

  61. avatar
    misha October 12, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

    NY Trump Supporter Arrested After Threatening To Beat Black Woman

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/todd-warnken-arrested-threatening-black-woman-trump

    “Todd Warnken, 55, was asked to leave the store after “being disruptive inside,” Albany police spokesman Steve Smith told the newspaper. On his way out, Warnken allegedly harassed a black woman waiting for a taxi, calling her a racial slur and threatening her physically.

    “Trump is going to win and if you don’t like it I’m going to beat your ass,” he yelled, according to Smith.

    Warnken was arrested near the grocery store and charged with misdemeanor aggravated harassment, the newspaper reported.”

  62. avatar
    Scientist October 12, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

    misha: NY Trump Supporter Arrested After Threatening To Beat Black Woman

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/todd-warnken-arrested-threatening-black-woman-trump

    misha-Believe it or not, I was at that exact store yesterday,. But I’m much better looking than that guy…

  63. avatar
    Joey October 12, 2016 at 6:10 pm #

    misha:
    Trump Supporter Tells Mike Pence She’s ‘Ready For A Revolution’ If Hillary Clinton Wins

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-revolution_us_57fdaaa6e4b0e9c70229deba

    ———————
    There were right wingers “ready for a revolution” if Bill Clinton won (Militias). There were right wingers “ready for a revolution” if Barack Obama won (Tea Party Patriots).
    Some things never change: “You say you want a revolution…!”

  64. avatar
    misha October 12, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

    Joey: There were right wingers “ready for a revolution” if Bill Clinton won

    As I wrote above, Clinton was president during Waco and Oklahoma City, and was elected president in the 1992 election; he was successfully campaigning during Ruby Ridge.

    Trump has poured gasoline on the fire. “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment. If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people—maybe there is, I don’t know.”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/trumps-latest-joke-cannot-be-excused/495284/

    Sharron Angle: “And you know, I’m hoping that we’re not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/sharron-angle-floated-2nd_n_614003.html

  65. avatar
    jdkinpa October 12, 2016 at 8:34 pm #

    Trump is looking very Bill Cosby-ish by the day.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

  66. avatar
    Sef October 12, 2016 at 9:46 pm #

    jdkinpa:
    Trump is looking very Bill Cosby-ish by the day.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

    Re: Trump’s alleged rape of his estranged wife, Ivana, I was on a jury that sent a guy to Dannemora for 20 years for that exact same crime. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

  67. avatar
    Notorial Dissent October 13, 2016 at 10:46 am #

    Cosby at least has better hair, otherwise, yeah. You know what they say, safety in numbers, and if LaRump can drag Clinton issues up out of the weeds, there is no reason that his past can’t start showing back up, and with them coming forward in groups, it makes it harder for him to threaten and bully or ignore and sweep under teh carpet. Donny really shouldn’t have started down this path.

  68. avatar
    misha October 13, 2016 at 11:06 am #

    Notorial Dissent: with them coming forward in groups, it makes it harder for him to threaten and bully or ignore and sweep under teh carpet. Donny really shouldn’t have started down this path.

    Popcorn

  69. avatar
    misha October 13, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    Trump fires back on Twitter as his campaign continues to crumble over sexual assault allegations

    Trump keeps fiddling with Twitter as his campaign burns.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-fires-back-twitter-campaign-melts-article-1.2829144

  70. avatar
    J.D. Sue October 13, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    NYT’s attorney sent a great letter in response to Trump’s threat to sue the NYT for libel.

    http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000157-bf2d-d0ba-a5ff-ffbf177f0001

  71. avatar
    misha October 13, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

    J.D. Sue: NYT’s attorney sent a great letter in response

    I read it. Bravo!

  72. avatar
    misha October 13, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

    My fears have been realized: “Mr. Stone hedged when asked whether he would advise Mr. Trump — should he lose in November — to concede the election and accept its legitimacy.”

    “Mr. Trump’s claims seem to be resonating among his supporters. At a campaign stop in Iowa on Tuesday, a woman stood up and, her voice quavering, said she feared “voter fraud” before offering a stark call to action to Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana, Mr. Trump’s running mate.

    “If Hillary Clinton gets in, I myself, I’m ready for a revolution because we can’t have her in,” the woman said.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/politics/trump-election-rigging.html

  73. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater October 13, 2016 at 5:06 pm #

    Trump stupidly wouldn’t allow his campaign to run opposition research on Trump. No wonder his campaign keeps getting caught off guard by how horrible he is.

  74. avatar
    Sef October 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

    Oh, how times have changed since Christine Keeler.

  75. avatar
    jdkinpa October 13, 2016 at 7:00 pm #

    Sef October 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm (Quote) #

    Oh, how times have changed since Christine Keeler.

    Oh, for the good ole days of Huntley and Brinkley.

  76. avatar
    Sef October 13, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

    jdkinpa:
    Sef October 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm(Quote) #


    Oh, how times have changed since Christine Keeler.

    Oh, for the good ole days of Huntley and Brinkley.

    Or Dave Garroway and Jack Lescoulie.

  77. avatar
    jdkinpa October 13, 2016 at 8:23 pm #

    Sef, I’m 68, 69 in February, baby boomers rule. LOL

  78. avatar
    Sef October 13, 2016 at 8:42 pm #

    jdkinpa:
    Sef, I’m 68, 69 in February, baby boomers rule.LOL

    Some of us have an in utero memory of FDR.

  79. avatar
    Keith October 14, 2016 at 8:03 am #

    I don’t remember FDR, but I have a vague memory of Edward R. Murrow.

    Oh for someone with one tenth the cojones of Murrow and Fred Friendly, the gravitas of Cronkite, and the erudition of Huntley and Brinkley.

    Maybe late to the party, but some folks are actually starting to see that they may well have been more enabler than reporter.

    Yeah, well, better late than never, as long as it isn’t TOO late.

    For journalists covering Trump, a Murrow moment

  80. avatar
    misha October 15, 2016 at 2:19 am #

    Armed Trump Supporters Protest In Front Of Democrat’s Campaign Office

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/armed-donald-trump-supporters_us_580120b7e4b0e8c198a7f139?section=&

    New Jersey Muslim Center Defaced With ‘Donald Trump,’ Racist Graffiti

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bayonne-mosque-vandalized_us_58013157e4b06e047594c812?section=&

  81. avatar
    misha October 15, 2016 at 2:32 am #

    3 Held in Bomb Plot Against Somalis in Kansas

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/kansas-bomb-plot-arrest-somali.html

  82. avatar
    misha October 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

    “If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a Trump supporter, told The Boston Globe last week. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rigged-election_us_58024298e4b0162c043c4bbb

    and

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/15/donald-trump-warnings-conspiracy-rig-election-are-stoking-anger-among-his-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html

  83. avatar
    misha October 15, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    Sheriff Supporting Trump Says It’s Time To Bring Out ‘Pitchforks And Torches’

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-clarke-pitchforks-and-torches_us_580257ffe4b06e04759531a6

  84. avatar
    Sef October 15, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

    misha:
    “If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a Trump supporter, told The Boston Globe last week. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rigged-election_us_58024298e4b0162c043c4bbb

    and

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/15/donald-trump-warnings-conspiracy-rig-election-are-stoking-anger-among-his-followers/LcCY6e0QOcfH8VdeK9UdsM/story.html

    Every day, in every way I am more and more convinced that DNA’s Golgafrincham B Ark hypothesis is correct.

  85. avatar
    misha October 15, 2016 at 4:22 pm