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Ron Polarik identified?

The Barackyphal Blog claims to have identified the figure behind Ron Polarik as Dr. Ronald Polland.  What is remarkable, if this identification is true, is that the man behind the Ron Polarik mask really does have a PhD in Instructional Systems, albeit no credentials in computer imaging (which anyone who had the stomach to wade through his “analysis” knows).

I was all over Florida State graduates in Instructional Systems half a year ago, but somehow I didn’t find the fellow. I could kick myself!

Now if we could just prove that this fellow is a descendant of the Bulgarian financier Petko Strashnika, the identification would be cemented.

Here is the latest rant from Polarik in a post titled “We were warned…” over at the Free Republic site.

Update:

It appears that lawyer Phil Berg has confirmed the identification.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17882344/ZLiberiltrtoJudgeRobrenoreInjunction073009-73009

Further evidence Polarik is Polland!

With this additional information, I believe the Polarik/Polland association is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I have said many times in private that whoever outed Ron Polarik would be doing a tremendous service to the United States. Huge thanks to Loren at the Barackryphal blog for this.

Update:

Aha! The Bulgarian is Polland’s wife. So we come full circle.

I think Loren should be voted man of the year.!

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91 Responses to Ron Polarik identified?

  1. avatar
    kimba July 30, 2009 at 8:10 am #

    Any online software available to compare the writing style in the ‘we were warned’ speech against the ‘I am a descendant of..’ rant? They both give off a lot of righteous indignation, but heh, I’m no expert 😉

  2. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny July 30, 2009 at 9:43 am #

    I am almost sure that the “I am a descendant” otburst is not by Polarik, but by someone whose mother tongue is not English. If of course his wife at the time was a foreigner, that would explain a lot. When did Polarik say he “recently” got divorced?

    I think we should look for a link between some Atanasov and Bulgarian freedom fighter Petko Milyov Strashnika. Unfortunately, the name Atanasov seems very common among Bulgarians, particularly 18th century freedom fighters and pro-Russian generals.

    By the way, this is probably a joke, but what is the link between Polland, Israeli politics, Bulgaria and … Konica Minolta? Answer: the Intelligence Summit, headed by John Loftus and funded by Michael Chernoy. General Atanas Atanasov is climed by John Loftus to have framed Chernoy in Israel and Bulgaria, and Konica Minolta was once claimed as an Intelligence Summit sponsor, although they had declined to do so.

  3. avatar
    AdrianInFlorida July 30, 2009 at 9:55 am #

    “Dr” Ron Polarik…Busted? Freepers aren’t the only ones who can dig up someone hiding behind an online avatar, it seems. 🙂

    Good work Barackyphal Blog.

  4. avatar
    AdrianInFlorida July 30, 2009 at 9:57 am #

    Uh, oh, the Freepers may be staring to turn on the good “doctor”….

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2303122/posts?page=14

    “Anyone who believes an anonymous poster’s claims is psychotic.

    An anonymous poster who claims to be qualified to give expert opinion is psychotic.

    Are you people really so mentally deranged that you believe some person posting on the Web?

    Where is your ability to think critically?

    Experts’ opinions are valued because of WHO the person is, not who he or she claims to be.

    Someone hiding himself and preying on your suspicions of Obama is using you. I urge you to stop and think clearly about the utter insanity of buying this person’s snake oil.

    He’s at least as bad as Obama himself.

    It pains me to see you all fall for this. WND, I can see falling for it. Because WND persists in publishing lies that it knows are lies.

    I thought FR was different. It never used to have so many gullible people.

    It’s so sad to watch you all go mad, for that is surely where you are headed if you don’t stop thinking like crazy people.”

  5. avatar
    kimba July 30, 2009 at 10:15 am #

    Funny. I thought it was one of the clearer posts there (Lots of non-English speakers commenting there, which is pretty cool.) The indignance at the suggestion that Bulgars descended from muslims is interesting. Isn’t Polarik extremely anti-muslim?

    Fascinating too that the only mis-spelled word is APPOLLED. Like POLLand.

  6. avatar
    misha July 30, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    Glad you are back. Could you post again, the link on Orly’s husband was a minor actor in the Soviet Union?

  7. avatar
    misha July 30, 2009 at 12:52 pm #

    Did anyone see the Atlanta Journal:

    Cops suspended for Obama check

    And here’s some of Orly cultists:

    “It would be nice if the sheriffs of this country formed an alliance with you and arrested BHO before more damage is done!

    and

    They are doing their job. BO needs to be arrested right away.”

  8. avatar
    kimba July 30, 2009 at 1:23 pm #

    Grand jury participants maybe? Doing some homework? Pretty dumb on their part, someone always scans who searched for what. Not like a search on POTUS would stand out or anything. Idjits.

  9. avatar
    misha July 30, 2009 at 2:01 pm #

    “But I stopped Obama for running a stop sign. He was driving a Ford Explorer. I was just doing my job. The guy I stopped was Samuel Obama. I must have typed in Barack by mistake.”

    “Oh, yeah? Tell that to DHS.”

  10. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny July 30, 2009 at 2:16 pm #

    Hi, Misha. I never said Mr Taitz was an actor. I rather a connection to another Taitz, or other Taitzes who were specialists in Adobe Photoshop or Paintshop pro. I found all those Taitzes by way of Yandex.

    Unfortunately, Yandex no longer finds the film “Seekers of Happiness” on Russian wikipeduia

  11. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny July 30, 2009 at 2:30 pm #

    and now my post was gone without me realizing. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D1%81%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%8F

    = “Искатели счастья” (also a poem by 18 cy poet Kheraskov, by the way) I have no idea whether there is a connection between the actress and Orly’s husband. It does stress the fact that Taitz is, or was a Jewish name in Russia (though probably connected to a Slavis stem meaning “secret”)

    The film itself is useless Stalinistic propaganda, which no one would remember if it was not the first (and perhaps last) film which portrays real Jews in a realistic way, and if the music was not by the famous composer Dunayevsky.

    Recently Politjab quoted an article which had Orly and her husband talk Hebrew between each other. So, the husband is not the reason why Orly’s Russian is so much better than her English. I suppose the older guy Averbukh who lives at their home is the one who keeps the Russian language alive. There is some suspicion too, that this guy knew Avigdor Lieberman’s father (on account of both being born in Orhei, and both having strangely similar military experiences during World War II in the ranks of the Soviet army).

  12. avatar
    misha July 30, 2009 at 3:10 pm #

    You’re right. I did not remember correctly. But thanks again for the reference. I’m going to make a note for the future.

  13. avatar
    misha July 30, 2009 at 3:14 pm #

    One more note: Orly, Lieberman and Sharansky are refuseniks, and they all go in for crackpot politics. What gives with them?

    I’m glad the Jesuits got hold of me when I was 17. Whew!

  14. avatar
    kimba July 30, 2009 at 3:49 pm #

    HA! Funny Stuff!

  15. avatar
    Loren July 31, 2009 at 1:20 am #

    Since you mentioned verification that Polarik is Polland:

    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-polland-is-polarik.html

  16. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 2:32 am #

    Berg conceding Polarik is Pollard.

  17. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 8:10 am #

    I would say that the identification has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

  18. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 9:31 am #

    I was over at tROSL and Phil posted a article from SonoranNews.com, which looks like is recycling the Kerchner case…What I find interesting is Apuzzo’s comments, which are as crazy as Donofrio’s reading of the law….

    “If anything, Apuzzo said, Obama, who has refused to produce his birth certificate, prevented public access to medical, educational and travel documents, whose father was born a British subject, and who himself was born a British subject, presented a much more questionable case for establishing Article II “natural born Citizen” status than did McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone to two U.S. citizen parents who were on military duty at the time of his birth.

    Apuzzo asserts Congress denied Kerchner equal treatment, based on party loyalty, race (wanting to avoid the appearance of being racist against the first African-American President-elect) or some other unknown factor and put up an “unjust, unequal and discriminatory barrier” to Kerchner’s petition for redress of his grievance. …

    He says this cause of action is about a “serious violation of our Constitution,” not a dispute about where Obama was born.”

  19. avatar
    Mary Brown July 31, 2009 at 10:23 am #

    Now that the President’s birthplace has been established they are on to the next thing.I agree HA! Funny Stuff.

  20. avatar
    ballantine July 31, 2009 at 10:41 am #

    That’s about the dumbest thing

  21. avatar
    ballantine July 31, 2009 at 10:46 am #

    Whoops, hit send too early. Hard to believe anyone who went to law school would make such a silly argument. Now there is a constitutional right for Congress to investigate candidates equally. Too bad the equal protection clause doesn’t apply to congress and, if they claim to be originalists, was not intended to apply to political rights at all. Of course, the experts the senate asked to look into McCain’s eligibility make clear that Obama was eligible as well:

    “The Constitution does not define the meaning of “natural born Citizen.” The U.S. Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress…. and to the common law at the time of the Founding….These sources all confirm that the phrase “natural born” includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a nation’s territory and allegiance….”

    ” If the Panama Canal Zone was sovereign U.S. territory at the time of Senator McCain’s birth, then that fact alone would make him a “natural born” citizen under the well-established principle that “natural born” citizenship includes birth within the territory and allegiance of the United States…Premising “natural born” citizenship on the character of the territory in which one is born is rooted in the common-law understanding that persons born within the British kingdom and under loyalty to the British Crown–including most of the Framers themselves, who were born in the American colonies–were deemed natural born subjects.”

    “Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause….And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961–not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier. ”

    Letter by Theodore Olson and Laurence Tribe, reported in 154 Cong. Rec. S3645-46 (Apr. 30, 2008).

  22. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 11:12 am #

    In the birfer crowd, “reasonable doubt” has whole a new meaning.

    (Seriously! Phil at tRSoL “doesn’t know” if Obama birth cerificate is real.)

  23. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 11:33 am #

    Thanks for the citation.

  24. avatar
    misha July 31, 2009 at 12:21 pm #

    As a card carrying member of the International Jewish Conspiracy™, I can state with authority that Soros is paying off everyone to make sure that Obama stays ensconced in the White House.

    I can’t give you the exact amount I receive, but I have agreed to give Obama’s bagman a cut. I have to go check on the blood vial in my fridge, now.

    Oops, I let the cat out of the bag. (sorry Max)

  25. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 12:32 pm #

    Interesting article from a Tampa newspaper…The birthers, who wanted the MSM and politicans involved, have received what they wanted. Unfortunately it hasn’t turned out the way they expected…Good quote from the article…

    “For a minority party looking to regain Congress, all this puts many Republican leaders in an uncomfortable spot. Do they side with the birthers and risk being labeled by the mainstream as kooks, or do they distance themselves from the birthers and risk losing a strong, vocal and increasingly confrontational constituency?”

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article1023518.ece

  26. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 12:35 pm #

    Dr C, you may want to check out an interesting article from last year regarding the John McCain issue and how “Native born citizen” is defined…

    A quote from the article…

    “There are two basic paradigms of acquiring citizenship: by birth, and by naturalization. The Immigration and Nationality Act currently in effect defines “naturalization” to mean “the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever.” There should therefore be no doubt that a “natural born Citizen” as described in Article II of the Constitution is one who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth, and not through naturalization. The law of naturalization is therefore not discussed in any detail here.”

    http://www.ssbb.com/index.php/publications/entry/90

  27. avatar
    Rickey July 31, 2009 at 12:40 pm #

    Berg’s letter is about as clear an admission as one could hope for.

    “With Mr. Hale and Ms. Belcher putting out my expert witnesses [sic] name, I may have lost my expert which could cause my case to be dismissed. As stated herein, Defendants’ threats have become a reality in regard to Mr. Polarik…”

    Clearly, Berg would not be worried about losing his witness if Polland had been mis-identified as Polarik.

    Since Polland/Polarik clearly has no expertise in document authentication, the notion that Obama’s COLB is a forgery has been completely discredited (not that it was credible in the first place).

  28. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 12:46 pm #

    One better — the WSJ:

    “The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not ‘resolve the issue’ to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today’s birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday’s is as well.

    The president would gain nothing politically for his trouble. By acknowledging the birthers’ demands, he would lend them a modicum of credibility. By ignoring them, he actually reaps political benefits from their efforts. His critics, even those who are not birthers, end up looking like cranks by association. His supporters use the birthers to paint Obama foes as racist–which is probably unfair even to the birthers, as we argued Tuesday, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t effective.”

    “The birthers are likely to be with us for as long as Obama is president–and because of them, it is more likely that this will be for the next 7 rather than just 3 years.”

    This article does cite 8 U.S.C. 1401, which Donofrio (and others, surely) will note does not explicitly reference natural-born citizens. (Donofrio missed the argument that the 14th Amendment may not apply to those born overseas.)

  29. avatar
    kimba July 31, 2009 at 1:02 pm #

    Doc any idea what typically happens to a conspiracy theory when one of its key pillars, or even its cornerstone, is destroyed? Do a dozen tiny pillars ( new theories) pop up to take its place?

  30. avatar
    misha July 31, 2009 at 1:05 pm #

    “The birthers are likely to be with us for as long as Obama is president–and because of them, it is more likely that this will be for the next 7 rather than just 3 years.”

    YES!! I’m having fun watching.

    Just wait until Corey Booker announces. You haven’t seen anything yet.

  31. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 1:12 pm #

    Ask they twoofers: They can’t even decide amongst themselves how the Twin Towers or the Pentagon were destroyed (other than all agreeing not by terrorists flying planes into them).

  32. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 1:14 pm #

    On the flipside — the NRO’s Suborned in the U.S.A.: The birth-certificate controversy is about Obama’s honesty, not where he was born..

    For someone who goes to great pains to say “I’m not a birther!”, he sure sounds like one.

  33. avatar
    kimba July 31, 2009 at 2:52 pm #

    When I first read your post, I read it as “two-fer” and thought maybe this was the new word for “birthers” – the birth certificate thing is over so now they’re pushing the two parents citizens thing
    – Two-fers!

  34. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 3:24 pm #

    Bob, I was just going to link to this article…The biggest issue I have with it is in the followin paragraph…

    “To summarize: What Obama has made available is a Hawaiian “certification of live birth” (emphasis added), not a birth certificate (or what the state calls a “certificate of live birth”). The certification form provides a short, very general attestation of a few facts about the person’s birth: name and sex of the newborn; date and time of birth; city or town of birth, along with the name of the Hawaiian island and the county; the mother’s maiden name and race; the father’s name and race; and the date the certification was filed. This certification is not the same thing as the certificate, which is what I believe we were referring to in the editorial as “the state records that are used to generate birth certificates [sic] when they are requested.””

    They are back on the difference between a certification and a certificate. I thought this issue was already resolved. Only the birthers can bring back issue that have already been debunked and make it look like it is some sort of new evidence.

  35. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 3:30 pm #

    Since the Dr. Fukino statement, the birthers have been going crazy with their theories. Their speculation has brought back the following theory on why President Obama’s COLB is a fraud…

    “Images of two Aug 5,1961 birth certificates of the twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi’olani Maternity Hospital, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same hospital have now been revealed.
    The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of the twins. The Nordykes’ certificates include the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, Name and address of the parents.

    A close examination of the birth certificates of the twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the Obama was born a day earlier. Obama was given a higher registration number. The middle figure in Obama’s purported registration also is different that the Twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii registar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.

    The middle figure in Obama’s purported registration also is different from the Nordykes’ Obama’s is 1961,indicating the year, while the Mordykes is merely 61.
    The article containing the information that I have just written was on – World Net Daily 7/29/2009.”

    Of course they are sourcing WND. No birther crackpot theory is complete without it being sourced to that so called news website.

  36. avatar
    Black Lion July 31, 2009 at 3:47 pm #

    The article is full of debunked birther nonsense…No wonder those over at tROSL thought they had found the a “great article”…

    Look at this statement…

    “How many Americans know, for example, that as a sitting U.S. senator in 2006, Obama interfered in a Kenyan election, publicly ripping the incumbent government (a U.S. ally) for corruption while he was its guest and barnstorming with his preferred candidate: a Marxist now known to have made a secret agreement with Islamists to convert Kenya to sharia law, and whose supporters, upon losing the election, committed murder and mayhem, displacing thousands of Kenyans and plunging their country into utter chaos?”

    Or this wonderful nugget of information….

    “Shortly after divorcing Barack Obama Sr., Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, married an Indonesian Muslim, Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, whom she met — just as she had met Barack Sr. — when both were students at the University of Hawaii. At some point, Soetoro almost certainly adopted the youngster, who became known as “Barry Soetoro.” Obama’s lengthy, deeply introspective autobiographies do not address whether he was adopted by the stepfather whose surname he shared for many years, but in all likelihood that did happen in Hawaii, before the family moved to Jakarta”

    How many different unprovable statements did the writer make in that last paragraph? And he did not source not one piece of evidence. He basically rehashed every birther theory and made it sound like it was factual. See below…

    “Thus Obama probably obtained Indonesian citizenship through his adoption by Soetoro in Hawaii. That inference is bolstered by the 1980 divorce submission of Ann Dunham and Lolo Soetoro, filed in Hawaii state court. It said “the parties” (Ann and Lolo) had a child (name not given) who was no longer a minor (Obama was 19 at the time). If Soetoro had not adopted Obama, there would have been no basis for the couple to refer to Obama as their child — he’d have been only Ann Dunham’s child.”

    No proof to make that statement…Or…

    “By contrast, the question whether Obama ever was an Indonesian citizen is still unresolved, as are such related matters as whether the foreign citizenship (if he had it) ever lapsed, and whether he ever held or used an Indonesian passport — for example, during a mysterious trip to Pakistan he took in 1981, after Zia’s coup, when advisories warned Americans against traveling there. By the way, many details about that journey, too, remain unknown. Obama strangely neglected to mention it in his 850 pages of autobiography, even though the 20-year-old’s adventure included a stay at the home of prominent Pakistani politicians.”

    Again no proof. Do you notice how the travel ban to Pakistan because an advisory not to travelt there, even though again he supplies no evidence of this advisory. And we know that this is not even true by the NY Times article and the State Department’s own records.

    The writer just made up some wild accusations and innuendo and makes it sound like this is all either true or plausable. I believe that all of these so called statements have already been debunked. But he wrote them anyway. And they wonder why the birthers won’t go away.

  37. avatar
    kimba July 31, 2009 at 3:57 pm #

    Andrew McCarthy is a tool of the neocons. From his wikipedia entry:
    “During the 2008 Presidential election campaign, Andrew McCarthy wrote a number of posts on the National Review’s Corner stating that he thought that Democratic Presidential candidate, Barack Obama, was not serious about protecting U.S. national security against threats from radical Islam and elsewhere”

    Almost word for word what Liz Cheney said in the context of her birther conversation with James Carville. The birthers are useful idiots for the neocons who have their own smear campaign on Pres Obama. Which is to convince people he’s not serious about national security. But in reality, they know if Pres Obama beats the terrorists in Afghanistan and brings the troops home from Iraq, it hits their earnings from the Military bidness and ends their dreams of perpetual war against a perpetual enemy.

  38. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 4:35 pm #

    No reason to assume that piles of paper handled by different staff members would end up being processed by the health department the same order as that of the births. That would be like 100 of us mailing in applications for fishing licenses and expecting that the serial numbers would be sequenced in the same order that we filled out the forms.

  39. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 4:37 pm #

    All issues were resolved 10 months ago.

  40. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 4:37 pm #

    I LIKE it.

  41. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 4:43 pm #

    Think medusa.

  42. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 4:52 pm #

    The birfer-backlash-backlash begins!:

    “I realize there are some faith-based Obama supporters who believe without seeing, but the rest of us in the reality-based world are starting to get that strange feeling we got when Mark Sanford tried to convince us that he was away from his family on Father’s Day, hiking the Appalachian trail in order to clear his head and write a book.”

    I can’t help with that “strange feeling,” but most of us in the reality-based world know that no amount of documentation will satisfy the birfers. A cabinet-level officer of a Republican governor says that Obama was born in Hawaii, and her words are still parsed to prove that she didn’t really say that.

  43. avatar
    thisoldhippie July 31, 2009 at 5:26 pm #

    Snakes IN their heads instead of on them??

  44. avatar
    kimba July 31, 2009 at 6:14 pm #

    RE: Doc’s Medusa prediction

    How convenient that on the day that Polarik is discredited, we now have Steve Cee. Uncanny.

    “This information was provided by Steve Cee, a genealogist, who has also authored this new analysis (graphics-heavy MS Word document) of the Obama Certification of Live Birth (COLB). Steve’s contribution adds to Dr. Ron Polarik’s extensive forensic examination.”
    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3548#comments

    http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/292/

  45. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 7:43 pm #

    One must always ask, is Steve Cee just another pseudonym for Ron Polland? Rhymes with “Holland”.

  46. avatar
    dunstvangeet July 31, 2009 at 7:55 pm #

    I googled the phrase: “Steve Cee” got 1,940 hits.

    I added Geneticist, and got 10 hits. None of them were any papers that Steve Cee had written. Probably another pseudonym.

  47. avatar
    dunstvangeet July 31, 2009 at 8:00 pm #

    Oops, regoogled it with Genealogist, and got 160 hits, most about Barack Obama. Apparently, he’s making a big deal about the numbers, and he’s identified himself as a Genealogist.

    There are people named “Steve Cee” on Myspace, and facebook. However, he’s just another one of these self-proclaimed experts.

  48. avatar
    milspec July 31, 2009 at 8:03 pm #

    “two-fer” that’s delightful

  49. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 8:18 pm #

    Wouldn’t a real genealogist know there’s a difference between how race is (self) reported on a birth certificate, and how race is classified by those who measure vital statistics?

  50. avatar
    kimba July 31, 2009 at 8:36 pm #

    Ooo, Doc knows sumthin. Can’t wait to hear!

  51. avatar
    Bob July 31, 2009 at 8:59 pm #

    Apuzzo filed a reply to the government’s opposition to plaintiff’s motion for leave to file nunc pro tunc.

    It is, in reality, a surreply to government’s motion to dismiss (which is not allowed by the rules), as it spends the bulk of its time explaining why the plaintiffs do have standing (an issue that has nothing to do with nunc pro tunc’ing).

  52. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 31, 2009 at 10:24 pm #

    No, I’m just guessing, except how to pronounce Polland – I do know that for sure.

  53. avatar
    misha July 31, 2009 at 11:59 pm #

    “medusa”

    If you look closely, it spells out ‘med’ and ‘usa.’

    So med-usa clearly means you believe that most people in the USA are on meds, most likely psychotropic drugs. So that means you think ordinary, solid Americans are insane for believing that Barry Soetoro is an illegal worker.

    Typical liberals.

    (how’s that for trope)

  54. avatar
    sam smeed August 1, 2009 at 12:00 am #

    It seems like Ron Polarik and Steve Cee are not the same person.
    One is a document expert and the other is a geneologist. Both are coming from different perspectives. Steve Cee has posted e-mails from the State of Hawaii Vital Records, backing up his analysis off his site. Also a compelling factor is that there DOES appear to be different versions of the COLB. Can you explain that? If I was only shown one with the SEAL and did NOT know there were others, I may not question it also.
    Unlike Polarik, NoBarack08/Steve Cee’s stuff has been used in front of the Secret Service, the FBI, and the Citizen’s Grand Juries, so it seems like he has information that is being used infront of legal bodies! I think that speaks for itself.
    Look up http://www.riseupforamerica.com and see under ‘Natural Born Citizen’ and ‘More Natural Born Citizen’, looks like he’s also been tagged on several other sites and http://JagHunters.blogspot.com
    Seems like his stuff has bite afterall.

  55. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 12:22 am #

    However, Polarik is not a real document expert, and as far as I can tell Steve Cee is not a real genealogist. No one who had spent any time with birth records would have made the mistake he did.

  56. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 12:22 am #

    Who’d a thunk it?

  57. avatar
    misha August 1, 2009 at 12:33 am #

    It’s actually too easy doing a parody of birthers.

    Just be absurd. As an English major, I studied theatre of the absurd.

  58. avatar
    sam smeed August 1, 2009 at 12:37 am #

    Dr Conspiracy

    I didn’t see any mistakes. I only confirmation of the basic facts.

  59. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 1:15 am #

    Seems like his stuff has bite afterall.

    Being referenced by a citizen grand jury is nothing to boast about; in professional circles, it will get you laughed at.

    And there’s no verification that the FBI or Secret Service did anything other than trash it.

  60. avatar
    Paul Pieniezny August 1, 2009 at 6:57 am #

    The film buff in me was reminded by that subtle hint of the film “Ratko, the Dictator’s Son” – after all, that is what Obama is in Birthery: a dictator, who came from abroad. Oh, and another hint: in the cyrillic alphabet “C” stands for “S”, and could therefore be short for “Savage”.

    Of course, that lying sack of genealogist crap could simply be a fan of Stevie Cee, and then I am on the wrong track.

  61. avatar
    Rob in Denver August 1, 2009 at 9:09 am #

    It seems Orly’s web site is an attack site… from an ad network most likely.

    What is the current listing status for http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1?

    Site is listed as suspicious – visiting this web site may harm your computer.

    Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days.

    What happened when Google visited this site?

    Of the 9 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 3 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-07-31, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-07-31.

    Malicious software includes 3 scripting exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 2 new process(es) on the target machine.

  62. avatar
    kimba August 1, 2009 at 9:39 am #

    Does he say he’s a genealogist? I read part of one of his emails to the HI dept of health where he wrote he was a genealogist as his introduction to ask them questions. Is he a certified genealogist by the Board of Certification for Genealogists? Is he a member of the Association of Professional Genealogist? And even if he is, does being a professional genealogist qualify one to manipulate digital images to determine their authenticity? I am just a joe-schmo and I could copy stuff from one image and stick it on another and tell you it meant something if you were inclined to take my word for it. Just some thoughts on a Sat AM….

  63. avatar
    Welsh Dragon August 1, 2009 at 10:39 am #

    She’s not having much luck with her websites is she!

    The message Rob at Denver copied and pasted goes on to point the finger at 3 web domains – all in Russia. Has Orly upset the Russian Mafia! Is Orly Russian Mafia? – who knows?

  64. avatar
    Welsh Dragon August 1, 2009 at 11:04 am #

    It’ll come as no surprise that Orly is blaming ‘Obots’.

    Someone emailed her about it and her response was;

    ‘Answer: yes these are just scared dumb obots are trying to scare our patriots not to go on my site. Please complain to Google. If Google doesn’t stop, they will be named as an additional defendant in RICO action. (stands for Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations)’

    Crazy! On top of that one if her correspondents has clearly been watching a bit too much of Bill O’Reilly:

    ‘Didn’t I read or hear somewhere that George Soros’s son is a big wig with Google? I saw where you said to complain to Google. Does this answer your question?’

    But it’s not just Google, according to Orly:

    ‘thugs are at it again
    Until today if you were to type orly taitz on yahoo, you would get nearly 800,000 articles. Now there are only 178,000. Some thugs scrubbed 600,000 articles’

    She can’t even do a search properly – if I search yahoo I get 948,000 items!

  65. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 11:17 am #

    The difference is between typing Orly Taitz and “Orly Taitz”. In the first case I get just over 1 million and in the second 192,000. However, when Google returns those estimates, they can be wildly off.

    At Microsoft’s search site, orly taitz returns an estimated 88,100 and with quotes 94,800.

    Orly’s official site (searching with quotes) is listed #6 on bing, and #1 on Google. I can’t see that Orly can complain about her #1 ranking.

  66. avatar
    John Dean August 1, 2009 at 11:55 am #

    Susan Hu of NoQuarter, aka Susan Hudgens, has been deeply involved in genealogy for years. She is now Vice Chairman of HQRL, the Heritage Quest Research Library.

    http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:bgV7Ff2B4aUJ:www.hqrl.com/HQRL_Newsletter0907web.pdf+hqrl+%22susan+hudgens%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?aop&from=yr1kyarcuz%40aol.com&start=101

    She was/is a member of the Atlas Society, but the link I found last year for that isn’t working this morning.

    [In an EMAIL Communication, Susan Hudgens of the genealogy group, says that she is not involved with NoQuarter, Doc.]

  67. avatar
    dunstvangeet August 1, 2009 at 12:33 pm #

    I’m confused. How does bing return more results for a more confined search?

  68. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 12:38 pm #

    I wondered that myself. My guess is that in one case the estimate is more precise than the other.

  69. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 2:43 pm #

    Uhhh, did you read my article?

  70. avatar
    misha August 1, 2009 at 3:13 pm #

    I just went to her site, and it locked up my computer. Norton blocked something from it.

  71. avatar
    Bob Weber August 1, 2009 at 4:59 pm #

    “As a card carrying member of the International Jewish Conspiracy™, I can state with authority that Soros is paying off everyone to make sure that Obama stays ensconced in the White House.”

    ****************

    Let’s do a “back-of-the-envelope” calculation:

    First, you have the payoffs to Gov. Lingle, Alvin Onaka, Chiyome Fukino, and Janice Okubo. Plus the relevant employees of the HI Dept. of Health Statistics.

    Since we know from the birfers that all the school photographs of Obama are Photoshop fakes, payoffs are necessary to all the people in the photos to keep them silent. Plus you have to pay to suppress all the “real” photos, school yearbooks, etc. that don’t show Obama in the photos.

    Then you have the video footage of Obama playing in a high school basketball game which is CGI faked. Every spectator at that game has to be tracked down and paid off (or maybe assassinated) lest they reveal Obama wasn’t at that game.

    Then the newspaper birth listings had to be faked, 1960’s unexposed microfilm / microfiche stock located, and all the original copies tracked down and replaced with the fakes.

    The thousands of people who are foreign=born but have Hawaii COLB’s stating Hawaii as place of birth have to be tracked down and paid off to keep them from coming forward.

    The payment to each person has to be more than the expected payment one would get from going to the scandal sheets and revealing the conspiracy.

    Obama spending “hundreds of thousands” to keep everything secret? HA! It’s got to be costing HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS to suppress all the evidence! Soros must really be getting his money’s worth!

    P.S. Misha, don’t you know that Soros worked for the Nazis? They say so on sites like FreeRepublic, so it must be true! [:^)

  72. avatar
    Bob Weber August 1, 2009 at 5:09 pm #

    “On the flipside — the NRO’s Suborned in the U.S.A.: The birth-certificate controversy is about Obama’s honesty, not where he was born..

    For someone who goes to great pains to say “I’m not a birther!”, he sure sounds like one.”

    *************************

    That was written by Andy McCarthy, who jumped onto the Birfistan Express last year. He takes after his namesake, Joe. Scary to think he was once a federal prosecutor.

  73. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 5:12 pm #

    I thought you meant this namesake:

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000530/

  74. avatar
    Bob Weber August 1, 2009 at 5:19 pm #

    “Uh, oh, the Freepers may be staring to turn on the good “doctor”….”

    *********************

    Like any crazed mob, the birfers can turn against their erstwhile leaders.

    Orly was briefly in the Freep doghouse after she trashed “Calpernia” (Lisa Ostella) who had hosted Orly’s site. But all was forgiven once Birferism went viral. Don’t be surprised if they turn on her once more when Judge Carter gives Orly’s lawsuit the boot.

  75. avatar
    Bob Weber August 1, 2009 at 5:31 pm #

    “Recently Politjab quoted an article which had Orly and her husband talk Hebrew between each other. So, the husband is not the reason why Orly’s Russian is so much better than her English.”

    *************************

    The study of Hebrew was strongly discouraged in the USSR. Orly probably learned Hebrew as an adult, so I’m guessing her Hebrew is probably no better than her English.

  76. avatar
    Bob Weber August 1, 2009 at 5:42 pm #

    “No reason to assume that piles of paper handled by different staff members would end up being processed by the health department the same order as that of the births.”

    ******************

    Doc, I’m gonna go out on a limb here, but I think that maybe, just maybe, the clerks would assemble the applications in alphabetical order by last name for processing and filing, and that the reason for the three-digit gap between the “Nordyke” and “Obama” BC numbers is that there were three applications, alphabetically, between the names. I know, I know. It sounds crazy. But that’s my guess.

  77. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 6:20 pm #

    And to cut off the inevitable rebuttal: Sorted A-Z, processed Z-A.

  78. avatar
    sam smeed August 1, 2009 at 7:01 pm #

    You are ignorant of the definition between race and nationality.
    Barack Obama Sr was a negro per race, African as a Nationality. I guess like BO Sr you are just as confused. Now it makes sense why simple matters are totally over your head.

  79. avatar
    Loren August 1, 2009 at 7:17 pm #

    Nope. I’ve determined “Steve Cee”s identity, and it’s not Polarik.

    Just pull up his MS Word document, and you can see that he effectively signed it.

  80. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 7:58 pm #

    I guess like BO Sr you are just as confused.

    So you are conceding how Obama Sr. self-reported his race is different than how that self-report was classified?

  81. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 8:06 pm #

    “SYC 1959”?

  82. avatar
    kimba August 1, 2009 at 8:22 pm #

    In document properties

    Author: FSim
    Last Saved by: Parker

  83. avatar
    Expelliarmus August 1, 2009 at 11:10 pm #

    Still trying to figure out how Obama managed to get Hillary and Bill in on the conspiracy.

  84. avatar
    Bob August 1, 2009 at 11:19 pm #

    Biden resigns; Obama appoints Hillary as VP. Obama resigns; Hillary is the next Gerald Ford. Obama makes buckets of money on the speaking circuit.

    Simple. Easy!

  85. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

    Ah yes, like Orly’s Word Documents have “Appealing Dentistry” in them.

  86. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 1, 2009 at 11:40 pm #

    I must admit that my first work with vital statistics was in 1977, after computers. Certainly nobody sorts paper any more. I do know the old books are sorted by year, then certificate number. Sorting within a small stack (a few days’ worth) alphabetically doesn’t add any value, since the overall organization is by year, then certificate number.

  87. avatar
    Expelliarmus August 2, 2009 at 1:52 am #

    No, I’m trying to figure out how he convinced them to sign on back in June. I seem to remember Hillary wanting the nomination for herself.

  88. avatar
    Expelliarmus August 2, 2009 at 1:52 am #

    I mean June of 2008, of course.

  89. avatar
    Bob August 2, 2009 at 1:59 am #

    According to the birfers, McCain threw the race. So of course Obama and Hillary have had the scheme in the words since 2008….

  90. avatar
    Loren August 2, 2009 at 10:28 pm #

    Yep. It’s on online handle. Among other things, he posts anti-Obama YouTube videos under it.

  91. avatar
    kimba August 2, 2009 at 10:29 pm #

    He’s also SC on plainsradio.