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Looking closer at the POSFKBC

Lucas Smith has a new (May 6) YouTube video with a sweeping panoramic view of his alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate, and maps of Kenya. I didn’t note anything new in the video, but the music was interesting. A fleeting edge-on view of the POSFKBC suggests strongly that the original paper document does have a raised seal (as opposed to a Photoshopped seal) for what that’s worth.

Smith also has web site, Was Obama Born in Kenya, with a poster containing a higher-resolution copy of the birth certificate (the POSFKBC). All of you belonging to the “zoom in” faction, take a gander.

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143 Responses to Looking closer at the POSFKBC

  1. avatar
    richCares May 9, 2011 at 10:53 am #

    this is so good that I donated $132,000,000.33 to the born in kenya foundation, that’s in Zimbabwe dollars
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,453526,00.html

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    granite May 9, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    In case Lucas Smith is reading this site, I remember that you never showed any proof that you had gone to Kenya.

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    AnotherBird May 9, 2011 at 11:50 am #

    Why doesn’t Smith just give up? It is still pushing the same fake document. Does he think adding a few splashes of paint will make it more authentic?

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    Loren May 9, 2011 at 11:58 am #

    I’ve actually never doubted that the seal was three-dimensional. I’ve always been of the opinion that the utter genericness of the seal (the center simply says “SEAL”) points to the likely explanation that Smith simply spent twenty bucks and ordered a generic seal with a few words he wanted included.

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    Fred May 9, 2011 at 12:15 pm #

    This story reminds me that I need to donate some more money to the OFA. Here is the website. The world needs more ‘kenyan usurping’ leaders like this.
    http://www.barackobama.com/get-involved

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    Slartibartfast May 9, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    AnotherBird:
    Why doesn’t Smith just give up? It is still pushing the same fake document. Does he think adding a few splashes of paint will make it more authentic?

    For the life of me I can’t imagine what pot of gold Mr. Smith thinks still awaits him at the end of the birther rainbow he’s chasing…

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    Arthur May 9, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    As a natural born citizen of the state of Iowa, over the age of eighteen, and being of sound body and free of any mental disease or psychological impairment, I can confidently assert that Lucas Smith WAS NOT born in Iowa, nor did he learn to speak English in the the Hawkeye state. I assert this because he does not use any of the five standard dialects of Iowan English: (proto-Calvanist/Dutch, pseudo-Missourian, urban Des Moines/Cedar Rapids, Quad-Cities clipped, or Decorah Lutheran).

    Based on a phonetic transcription of Mr. Smith’s speaking voice it is clear that he was born and raised in Rockford, Illinois, and as a youth, listened to a great deal of Eminem.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 9, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

    Arthur:
    As a natural born citizen of the state of Iowa, over the age of eighteen, and being of sound body and free of any mental disease or psychological impairment, I can confidently assert that Lucas Smith WAS NOT born in Iowa, nor did he learn to speak English in the the Hawkeye state. I assert this because he does not use any of the five standard dialects of Iowan English: (proto-Calvanist/Dutch, pseudo-Missourian, urban Des Moines/Cedar Rapids, Quad-Cities clipped, or Decorah Lutheran).

    Based on a phonetic transcription of Mr. Smith’s speaking voice it is clear that he was born and raised in Rockford, Illinois, and as a youth, listened to a great deal of Eminem.

    Is that your politically correct way of calling me an ‘N-word lover’? Is my voice not white enough for you? I would to see you confront me in person and call me an ‘N-word lover’. I’d break you in half.

    I was born in Iowa. Cedar Rapids, Iowa is my hometown. While growing up I attend schools in Jacksonville-Florida, West Palm Beach-Florida, Peoria-Illinois, Washington-state, and Cedar Rapids-Iowa. I’ve also spent a number of years of my life abroad in the Dominican Republic.

    Furthermore, I never liked the white rapper that goes by the name Eminem. I’ve never really cared much for white rappers. Furthermore, Eminem was nationally known until at least 1997-1998. By that time I was already 17-18 years old. I certainly never heard of him, or his music, while I was growing up.

    Tell me, what does a ‘black person’ talk like? And what does a ‘white person’ talk like? Do we also walk differently? Perhaps smell differently? Do you the black brain and the white brain not function in the same manner? I’d really to hear you thoughts on this.

    I’d also like to hear you voice your opinions, publicly in person, in current day Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I’m positive that you wouldn’t. You feel safe behind your computer monitor.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 9, 2011 at 4:55 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Is that your politically correct way of calling me an N-word lover’? Is my voice not white enough for you? I would to see you confront me in person and call me an N-word lover’. I’d break you in half.I was born in Iowa. Cedar Rapids, Iowa is my hometown. While growing up I attend schools in Jacksonville-Florida, West Palm Beach-Florida, Peoria-Illinois, Washington-state, and Cedar Rapids-Iowa. I’ve also spent a number of years of my life abroad in the Dominican Republic.Furthermore, I never liked the white rapper that goes by the name Eminem. I’ve never really cared much for white rappers. Furthermore, Eminem was nationally known until at least 1997-1998. By that time I was already 17-18 years old. I certainly never heard of him, or his music, while I was growing up.Tell me, what does a black person’ talk like? And what does a white person’ talk like? Do we also walk differently? Perhaps smell differently? Do you the black brain and the white brain not function in the same manner? I’d really to hear you thoughts on this.I’d also like to hear you voice your opinions, publicly in person, in current day Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I’m positive that you wouldn’t. You feel safe behind your computer monitor.

    Hey Lucas how about some proof you actually traveled to Kenya?

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    Majority Will May 9, 2011 at 4:57 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’d break you in half.

    Ooh, threaty.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 9, 2011 at 5:04 pm #

    Majority Will: Ooh, threaty.

    Its about as threatening as “I’ll get you gadget next time”

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    Greg May 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm #

    Rockford, Illinois and Eminem are now code for N-word lover?

    Little did I know!

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    Greg May 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm #

    Hey, Lucas, since you’re being so open with your personal details, can you please list the crimes you have been charged/convicted of. Please explain, further, why we should take any document from a convicted forger?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 9, 2011 at 5:42 pm #

    Greg:
    Rockford, Illinois and Eminem are now code for N-word lover?

    Little did I know!

    Yes, that is exactly what he was implying and its overtly and conspicuously apparent. The ‘Eminem’ part is obvious and so are the remarks about my voice.

    I do, however, understand why you might not understand the Rockford, Illinois part…you’d have to be from eastern Iowa or Illinois to understand it and even at that you still might not understand it.

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    JoZeppy May 9, 2011 at 5:50 pm #

    Greg: Rockford, Illinois and Eminem are now code for N-word lover? Little did I know!

    And Lucas D. Smith pulls the race card!

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    Wile E. May 9, 2011 at 5:51 pm #

    Dr C. says, “…but the music was interesting.”

    In light of recent nails having been hammered into the coffin of “birtherism”, the funeral music being played in the background of this video seems entirely fitting.

    Chopin’s Prelude #6, dubbed “Tolling Bells”, was actually played at his own funeral.

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    Sean May 9, 2011 at 7:10 pm #

    Wile E.:
    Dr C. says, “…but the music was interesting.”

    In light of recent nails having been hammered into the coffin of “birtherism”, the funeral music being played in the background of this video seems entirely fitting.

    Chopin’s Prelude #6, dubbed “Tolling Bells”, was actually played at his own funeral.

    That or “The Lonely Man”, the theme to The Incredible Hulk TV show.

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    G May 9, 2011 at 10:37 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Yes, that is exactly what he was implying and its overtly and conspicuously apparent. The Eminem’ part is obvious and so are the remarks about my voice.I do, however, understand why you might not understand the Rockford, Illinois part…you’d have to be from eastern Iowa or Illinois to understand it and even at that you still might not understand it.

    Wow… First of all, I found your weird anger response extremely bizarre. Obviously, you have personal issues going on and anger management is one of them.

    Second, I’ve watched your video above and listening to the sound of your voice, YES, you do sound a lot like Eminem when he speaks.

    So, I think you are off your rocker with your weird race-based rant, when the comparison between your two voices is striking.

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    Greg May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm #

    Yes, that is exactly what he was implying and its overtly and conspicuously apparent. The Eminem’ part is obvious and so are the remarks about my voice.

    Still not following. Eninem is white. So, liking him makes you a Whitey-lover, does it not? Or, are you saying he was calling you a wannabe?

    Isn’t Eminem also a convicted felon? Maybe he was just calling you a dishonest felon/forger?

    If I call you a felon and forger, am I saying you’re a N-lover?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 1:16 am #

    Greg: Still not following. Eninem is white. So, liking him makes you a Whitey-lover, does it not? Or, are you saying he was calling you a wannabe?

    Isn’t Eminem also a convicted felon? Maybe he was just calling you a dishonest felon/forger?

    If I call you a felon and forger, am I saying you’re a N-lover?

    So….you’re an idiot, is that correct?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 1:22 am #

    G: Wow… First of all, I found your weird anger response extremely bizarre.Obviously, you have personal issues going on and anger management is one of them.

    Second, I’ve watched your video above and listening to the sound of your voice, YES, you do sound a lot like Eminem when he speaks.

    So, I think you are off your rocker with your weird race-based rant, when the comparison between your two voices is striking.

    So….you are an idiot too just like Greg? Or do you just pretend to be an idiot when you post on this blog?

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    G May 10, 2011 at 2:07 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: So….you are an idiot too just like Greg? Or do you just pretend to be an idiot when you post on this blog?

    What on earth is wrong with you? You just hurl meaningless insults whenever your sanity snaps? You seriously have anger management issues.

    I take it you don’t like Eminem. Personally, I’ve always found him to be very talented. I still don’t understand why you are so offended that your voice sounds like his.

    Sounds like you are the one suffering from personal image issues. You really make very little sense when you get like this. This isn’t the first time you’ve gone off on some bizarre angry tirade bender. Are you bi-polar or something?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 3:46 am #

    G: What on earth is wrong with you?You just hurl meaningless insults whenever your sanity snaps?You seriously have anger management issues.

    I take it you don’t like Eminem.Personally, I’ve always found him to be very talented.I still don’t understand why you are so offended that your voice sounds like his.

    Sounds like you are the one suffering from personal image issues.You really make very little sense when you get like this.This isn’t the first time you’ve gone off on some bizarre angry tirade bender.Are you bi-polar or something?

    For the record, Eminem is an ok guy I guess. I don’t have anything bad to say of him. At any rate, I’ve never really been a fan of his. In the 1990s I enjoyed listening to a wide variety of music which included rap such as DMX, Cormega, Nas and also members of the Wu-tang Clan. During that time period I would say that that music was inspirational to anyone growing up poor in America, regardless of color.

    However, for the most part, I stopped listening to rap music several years for several reasons such as, though not limited to:

    1. The newer rap turned into ‘fake’ music or ‘life intimidating art’.

    2. The music was very negative. I believe in the law of attraction. In other words, if you constantly talk/sign about being oppressed, poor, life is a constant struggle, being in jail/prison then you will probably always have that sort of life. For several years now I have preferred to think predominately positive thoughts because I enjoy living a healthy, loving and fun life.

    3. Even if rap music nowadays was the same as it was in 1990s I still probably wouldn’t listen to it much. The beat and tone of this music is certainly pleasing and to the ear and appealing to the body but the ‘words’ would, in many aspects, no longer apply to my life and I would not find the same inspiration in the music that I found throughout the 1990s.

    4. I also believe that rap music ruins lives and influences young people, especially black youth, to throw away their lives in an attempt to lead a way of life that really no longer exists in America. Most ‘wannabes’ nowadays are NOT ‘whiteboys’ but rather they are young blacks that are choosing to lead a life that really no longer is a reality in America.

    5. The year 2003 was first time that I left the country (USA). I’d recently been released from prison after discharging a 5 year sentence (served 3 years). Four months later I made my first trip to the Dominican Republic. This first trip was a real eye opener and a reality check. I learned that there are really no ‘poor’ or ‘oppressed people’ in present day United States of America. I’d grown up in the USA thinking that I was poor (financially). After my first trip to the Dominican Republic I started to understand that in reality I (and all other contemporary young Americans) had never been ‘poor’ at in point in life in America. At that point I really began to become disillusioned with rap music. I became interested in music such as bachata dominicana, merengue dominicano and salsa. One of my favorite songs is ‘Ajena’ by Frank Reyes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH262w7Chr8

    6. I went on to attend a catholic university in the Dominican Republic and start a new life in that country. I was/am really impressed with the people in the Dominican Republic. These people survive without social welfare programs that lots of Americans seem to believe make life possible in America.

    Here are a few additional notes regarding my voice:

    1. Ever since I went public with Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate I’ve felt pressure, from within myself, to ‘whiten’ my voice in fear of not being accepted by others in the eligibility community.

    2. In the video where I am talking in front if the Santa Ana court house I was trying to talk as ‘white’ as I possibly could. Also, I have sometimes tried to sound more white by using other methods such as talking through my nose. I’ve also sometimes tried to hold my mouth shut more and talk from the side of my mouth in attempts to sound more white.

    3. Even though I’ve made these attempts to whiten my voice for camera and radio interviews I’ve still managed to be shunned my a number of fellow birthers that can sort of see through my attempts to whiten my voice.

    More noted on music:

    Aside from adopting Dominican music as my own music I still also listen to the following music:

    1. R&B such as, though not limited to: Mary J. Blige, R. Kelly and definitely Jaheim.

    2. I also still listen to various classic R&B and Soul music from the 1970s and 1980s

    3. I also still listen various classic rock songs such as, though not limited to: ‘Paint it Black’ by the Rolling Stones and ‘Sweat Home Alabama’ by Lynyrd Skynyrd.

    4. I also like many songs from the 1980s/1990s/2000s rock band known as Guns N Roses.

    5. I also love Beethoven’s 5th symphony and similar music.

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    roadburner May 10, 2011 at 5:47 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: 3. Even though I’ve made these attempts to whiten my voice for camera and radio interviews I’ve still managed to be shunned my a number of fellow birthers that can sort of see through my attempts to whiten my voice.

    lucas,

    a voice can have pitch, timbre, and tone, but because it is a sound it has no colour.

    hey! maybe there´s a niche market here `get your all new voice bleach! limited time offer – free POSFKBC included in every packet!´

    🙂

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    Arthur May 10, 2011 at 8:18 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: Is that your politically correct way of calling me an N-word lover’? Is my voice not white enough for you? I would to see you confront me in person and call me an N-word lover’. I’d break you in half.I was born in Iowa. Cedar Rapids, Iowa is my hometown. While growing up I attend schools in Jacksonville-Florida, West Palm Beach-Florida, Peoria-Illinois, Washington-state, and Cedar Rapids-Iowa. I’ve also spent a number of years of my life abroad in the Dominican Republic.Furthermore, I never liked the white rapper that goes by the name Eminem. I’ve never really cared much for white rappers. Furthermore, Eminem was nationally known until at least 1997-1998. By that time I was already 17-18 years old. I certainly never heard of him, or his music, while I was growing up.Tell me, what does a black person’ talk like? And what does a white person’ talk like? Do we also walk differently? Perhaps smell differently? Do you the black brain and the white brain not function in the same manner? I’d really to hear you thoughts on this.I’d also like to hear you voice your opinions, publicly in person, in current day Cedar Rapids, Iowa. I’m positive that you wouldn’t. You feel safe behind your computer monitor.

    Hi Lucas,

    Glad I ruffled your crazy feathers.

    Sincerely,

    Arthur

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 9:48 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: So….you are an idiot too just like Greg? Or do you just pretend to be an idiot when you post on this blog?

    Somebody clear the island Mount Grifter Smith is about to blow. Meltdown imminent

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    Arthur May 10, 2011 at 10:48 am #

    Why is Lucas D. Smith so frequently described as a “convicted forger”? What exactly was his crime?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    Arthur: Why is Lucas D. Smith so frequently described as a “convicted forger”? What exactly was his crime?

    Forgery

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    Arthur May 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm #

    Ask a stupid question . . .

    I mean, what did he forge that got him convicted? I.D. cards? Checks? Paintings? Actually, based on his portrait of Orly Taitz, it couldn’t have been for forging paintings.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm #

    Arthur: Ask a stupid question . . .I mean, what did he forge that got him convicted? I.D. cards? Checks? Paintings? Actually, based on his portrait of Orly Taitz, it couldn’t have been for forging paintings.

    I can’t access it from here but I think in this entry on Badfiction they mention Lucas’ priors
    http://badfiction.typepad.com/badfiction/2010/09/dispatches-from-birtherstan-for-17-september-2010.html

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    Arthur May 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm #

    Thanks for the links, Dr. C. I appreciate it!

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    Daniel May 10, 2011 at 12:57 pm #

    Is it just me or does it strike anyone else that a high proportion of the birther principles seem to have convictions for forgery?

    I don’t know what the percentage of forgers are in the general population, but I’d bet it’s less than one in 10,000. The links Doc gave seem to show that about a quarter-ish of the leading birthers have forgery convictions.

    Unless I’m reading that wrong?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm #

    Daniel: Is it just me or does it strike anyone else that a high proportion of the birther principles seem to have convictions for forgery?I don’t know what the percentage of forgers are in the general population, but I’d bet it’s less than one in 10,000. The links Doc gave seem to show that about a quarter-ish of the leading birthers have forgery convictions.Unless I’m reading that wrong?

    Or at least a felony conviction

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    The Magic M May 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    Isn’t there a saying “by their leaders you shall know them”?

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Or at least a felony conviction

    But the incidence of forgery in particular is striking. (Especially when the forgers are offering documents of no known provenance which purport to be evidence of extraordinary claims…)

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm #

    Slartibartfast: But the incidence of forgery in particular is striking. (Especially when the forgers are offering documents of no known provenance which purport to be evidence of extraordinary claims…)

    I’m still laughing at the thread doc linked to where Lucas was spinning all over the place including his attempts to extort a family for his kidney

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    G May 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Here are a few additional notes regarding my voice:
    1. Ever since I went public with Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate I’ve felt pressure, from within myself, to whiten’ my voice in fear of not being accepted by others in the eligibility community.

    2. In the video where I am talking in front if the Santa Ana court house I was trying to talk as white’ as I possibly could. Also, I have sometimes tried to sound more white by using other methods such as talking through my nose. I’ve also sometimes tried to hold my mouth shut more and talk from the side of my mouth in attempts to sound more white.

    3. Even though I’ve made these attempts to whiten my voice for camera and radio interviews I’ve still managed to be shunned my a number of fellow birthers that can sort of see through my attempts to whiten my voice.
    More noted on music:

    1. To start on a positive note, I’m glad that you responded with a more rational and calmer post today and I wanted to acknowledge that.

    2. That was an interesting insight into your background and music tastes. I actually enjoyed and appreciated it. Thanks.

    3. The one thing I don’t understand is why you feel your accent or manner of speech is something you have to “whiten”. Call this simple regional naivity, but I never thought of Cedar Rapids, IA as sounding “street”.

    Yes, I’ve been there (back in 1991 or 1992) for business and had a wonderful time in that city. My father even lived there for awhile in his youth and I took his directions and found the old house he lived in. I didn’t notice any conversational tone/style issues when I was there that would lead to the problem you described.

    Maybe your manner of speech came from some of your other travels? FL? I don’t know, you tell me.

    We live in a vast country with numerous regional dialects, so I can understand that folks from different places will have different manners and tones to their speech patterns. I’m from NE Ohio. If you want to know what people around here sound like, turn on the TV or watch the movies. Our dialect is pretty much the typical generic “American” accent that they often voice train folks to use to sound “American”. Start heading south of Columbus and you generally start getting a bit of southern drawl blending in.

    What I’m getting at is I sincerely don’t understand where your speech patterns came from. You’ve told us a bit about your background, but nothing that bridges that connection.

    I also act that you reflect on this experience and realize that other people come from very different backgrounds, experiences and parts of the country than you and that you should not leap to conclusions about what people are implying when they simply note that your voice reminds them of some other individual who they’ve heard. It seems like your perspective on matters is sometimes overly constrained and clouded by your own personal issues and difficulties in life and that you need to pause more before reacting emotionally.

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    G May 10, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    Daniel: Is it just me or does it strike anyone else that a high proportion of the birther principles seem to have convictions for forgery?I don’t know what the percentage of forgers are in the general population, but I’d bet it’s less than one in 10,000. The links Doc gave seem to show that about a quarter-ish of the leading birthers have forgery convictions.Unless I’m reading that wrong?

    There is a strikingly high percentage of birthers who seem to have clear legal problems, career failures and severe personal issues and failures in their backgrounds.

    There is definitely something there that is a connection to why these people perceive the world the way they do and why they act the way they do.

    I would suspect that there is a lot of emotional insecurities, resentments, jealousies and in particular, projections of both their own mannerisms and also their own bad experiences as the driving force behind their motivations.

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    Majority Will May 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm #

    Daniel:
    Is it just me or does it strike anyone else that a high proportion of the birther principles seem to have convictions for forgery?

    I don’t know what the percentage of forgers are in the general population, but I’d bet it’s less than one in 10,000. The links Doc gave seem to show that about a quarter-ish of the leading birthers have forgery convictions.

    Unless I’m reading that wrong?

    I don’t think it’s surprising that these sociopathic and arrogant identity thieves show no remorse and outright disdain for the authority of the state of Hawaii and its privacy laws.

    And someone who can’t comprehend why it’s wrong to sign someone else’s name on another person’s check to steal his or her hard earned money is a perfect candidate for pushing a birther scam.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

    Slartibartfast: But the incidence of forgery in particular is striking. (Especially when the forgers are offering documents of no known provenance which purport to be evidence of extraordinary claims…)

    Of all the fake birth certificates I know of, all but one were pranks.

    Pranks:
    Canadian birth certificate signed Dudley Do-right
    Bomford Kenyan birth certificate
    Blaine Hawaiian Long form saying born in Kenya

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Of all the fake birth certificates I know of, all but one were pranks.

    Pranks:
    Canadian birth certificate signed Dudley Do-right
    Bomford Kenyan birth certificate
    Blaine Hawaiian Long form saying born in Kenya

    My statement was directed at the one which wasn’t (I don’t know of any other forgery attempts – unless you count trying to pass a decade old long form off as recent [which did not involve a convicted forger as far as I am aware…])

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 2:26 pm #

    Slartibartfast: My statement was directed at the one which wasn’t (I don’t know of any other forgery attempts – unless you count trying to pass a decade old long form off as recent [which did not involve a convicted forger as far as I am aware…])

    You never know, Lucas’ split personality could have been playing a prank on him.

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    Paul Pieniezny May 10, 2011 at 2:44 pm #

    The Magic M:
    Isn’t there a saying “by their leaders you shall know them”?

    Orly Taitz. How did she ever pass the California Bar? Even Lucas agrees English is not one of the six languages she is fluent at. Why did she go to Romania (still under Ceaucescu at the time, by the way- and does that explain why she is not on the alumni list of Jerusalem University?

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    Paul Pieniezny May 10, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Of all the fake birth certificates I know of, all but one were pranks.

    Pranks:
    Canadian birth certificate signed Dudley Do-right
    Bomford Kenyan birth certificate
    Blaine Hawaiian Long form saying born in Kenya

    Before the Bomford, there was another prank Kenyan birth certificate, which had a “hidden” message in the code, in Afrikaans (the Boer language!) saying “This is not the truth. He’s the rightful president now. Get used to it.”

    Funny thing was that it resembled the actual 1961 Kenyan BC that wnd found later, more than the Bomford or the Lucas one. Of course, even this obvious prank had its freeper supporters.

    Birthers will never “get used to it”, I am afraid.

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    Expelliarmus May 10, 2011 at 4:18 pm #

    The widely publicized search for a Kenyan birth certificate, coupled with offers for money for production of the same, is an obvious invitation for any scammer to try to create the goods to collect the money. The fact that the POSFKBC first showed up as an offering on ebay obviously speaks to motive.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 5:44 pm #

    Expelliarmus:
    The widely publicized search for a Kenyan birth certificate, coupled with offers for money for production of the same, is an obvious invitation for any scammer to try to create the goods to collect the money. The fact that the POSFKBC first showed up as an offering on ebay obviously speaks to motive.

    You’re apparently not very familiar with the story, which has been discussed roundly. In March of 2009 I stated contacting news outlets, attorneys, federal and state officials.

    None of them wanted to anything to do with a Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate.

    Some of them responded to me in a ‘nice’ way which conveyed their sentiments that I (Lucas Smith) must be a crazy conspiracy nut.

    In June (and July) of 2009 I put the birth certificate on eBay in hopes of garnering public attention.

    In the past I’d heard of people selling a grilled cheese sandwich with the face of Jesus having been enigmatically/supernaturally burnt into the bread. I’d also heard of other very strange auctions. In each case the auction caught the attention of the media and within a few days that news had spread into international news and everyone was talking about it.

    I never suspected for even a moment that anyone would really pay me for the eBay auctions. I even stipulated in the auctions that the buyer is welcome to inspect the document with a team of investigators/examiners, of their choosing, before they made payment to me. In doing so the document would become famous which was the point of the eBay auctions. Never, not for a single moment, did I ever mentally entertain any delusions about receiving a million dollar payout in cash from the eBay auctions. As they say, I’m not ‘fresh from the boat”.

    I’ve explained this many times, roundly, in many places and to many people, online, on radio, in person and long ago. This is not a new ‘break in the case’.

    Furthermore, in early 2009 before traveling to Africa (second trip) I’d never heard anything about Barack Obama being born outside of the USA. And I certainly never heard of what you term as a “widely publicized search for a Kenyan birth certificate”.

    I’m sorry, but until recently, most Americans were not following esoteric online conspiracy theories about Barack Obama being born in Kenya (or anywhere outside of the USA).

    Most Americans have never heard of websites such as World Net Daily (WND). Go ask 1000 random people if they have ever heard of WND or Joseph Farah. I wouldn’t be surprised if not a single one of the thousand has ever heard of WND or Farah.

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    Daniel May 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: In June (and July) of 2009 I put the birth certificate on eBay in hopes of garnering public attention.

    Hey Lucas, since you’re talking about a forgery anyways, perhaps you, a convicted forger, can answer the question I put to the forum a few posts up.

    Why do so many of the Birther principle players have convictions for forgery?

    I would have thought, statistically speaking, it would be surprising if more than one, that would be you, had been convicted of forgery, but it turns out a lot of the leaders of the birthers do.

    Why do you think that is?

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    Majority Will May 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Its about as threatening as “I’ll get you gadget next time”

    True.

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 6:26 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: You’re apparently not very familiar with the story, which has been discussed roundly. In March of 2009 I stated contacting news outlets, attorneys, federal and state officials.

    None of them wanted to anything to do with a Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate.

    Some of them responded to me in a nice’ way which conveyed their sentiments that I (Lucas Smith) must be a crazy conspiracy nut.

    In June (and July) of 2009 I put the birth certificate on eBay in hopes of garnering public attention.

    So what are the odds that Mr. Smith is a mark (of some Kenyan con man) rather than a con man himself? (Sorry, Mr. Smith, but you can’t guess on this one… ;-))

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    aarrgghh May 10, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    shorter i, lucas smith: “i’m not a scammer, really. i just act like one.”

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    G May 10, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’m sorry, but until recently, most Americans were not following esoteric online conspiracy theories about Barack Obama being born in Kenya (or anywhere outside of the USA).

    Most Americans have never heard of websites such as World Net Daily (WND). Go ask 1000 random people if they have ever heard of WND or Joseph Farah. I wouldn’t be surprised if not a single one of the thousand has ever heard of WND or Farah.

    On these points, we agree.

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    JoZeppy May 10, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    Slartibartfast: So what are the odds that Mr. Smith is a mark (of some Kenyan con man) rather than a con man himself? (Sorry, Mr. Smith, but you can’t guess on this one… )

    Considering his adament refusal to provide any evidence that he ever traveled to Kenya in the two years since offering the POSFKBC on ebay, I’m guessing the odds are slim.

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    G May 10, 2011 at 6:42 pm #

    Slartibartfast: So what are the odds that Mr. Smith is a mark (of some Kenyan con man) rather than a con man himself? (Sorry, Mr. Smith, but you can’t guess on this one… )

    I’m going to say 50 / 50, as It really is only one or the other as the POSFKBC is clearly a fake. I’m not going to weight one over the other possibility any more than that.

    Con men are still quite capable of being conned themselves.

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    Wile E. May 10, 2011 at 7:31 pm #

    Mr. Smith,

    What are your thoughts on the possibility that you may have been scammed?

    If things went down as you have described in regards to the procurement of so-called POSFKBC, what were your thoughts when you realized that the date and time of birth were identical to the already released COLB? Didn’t something smell a little fishy?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 8:12 pm #

    Daniel: Hey Lucas, since you’re talking about a forgery anyways, perhaps you, a convicted forger, can answer the question I put to the forum a few posts up.

    Why do so many of the Birther principle players have convictions for forgery?

    I would have thought, statistically speaking, it would be surprising if more than one, that would be you, had been convicted of forgery, but it turns out a lot of the leaders of the birthers do.

    Why do you think that is?

    Hi David,

    That’s a great question.

    First, for the record, let me state here that I am NOT sure that MOST of what you refer to as the ‘Birther principle players’ have convictions for forgery. I’m NOT stating that they don’t. I just really don’t know.

    The following is what I believe is a fairly accurate synopsis of those of us that do have forgery, fraud or related convictions:

    1. Charles Edward Lincoln III has some sort of a forgery-related conviction which stems from incorrectly (I’m not sure if it was deliberate or not) stating his social security number when opening a back account. This typically wouldn’t be something that authorities would pursue criminal charged over but, this bank account was tied into then active civil litigation and the Courts decided to pursue criminal charges which I believe resulted in a felony conviction.

    2. James David Manning MIGHT have some sort of a fraud-related conviction in his past.

    3. Lisa Liberi (Philip Berg’s paralegal) has fraud/forgery-related convictions. This should not be construed as meaning that Philip Berg has such convictions himself. As a matter of fact, some attorneys prefer to hire paralegals that have criminal convictions and have served time in jails, prisons and penitentiaries. Such paralegals have an ‘inside understanding’ of the justice system that is invaluable to attorneys.

    4. Me, I, The, He, Lucas Daniel Smith. I have forgery convictions from 1998 and 2000. These crimes connected to on another. As a mater if fact I had to be shipped back from prison to the county court house to appear for hearings after I was already serving my time. These charges revolve around bank accounts that I wrote some checks on. These crimes spanned from 1997 thru 1999. Some of the charges were not brought against me immediately. I was a teenager in 1997 (17 years old) and in 1998 (18 years old) and in 1999 (19 years old). I turned 20 in the year 2000. I’ve found conflicting online court records,( i.e., abstracts, not copies of original court paper work) in my name which contain incorrect dates of crimes, convictions and dates of incarceration.

    To answer your main question I present the following:

    I can only speak for myself, so please do not construe this is a broad an sweeping explanation that should be applied to all of us (although it possibly could).

    When I was in Africa in 2009 (second trip) and heard, for the first time, that president Barack Obama was born in Kenya, I immediately fell captivated and intrigued with the story. I felt this way because I myself, as a teenager, had committed a few ‘crimes of deception’.

    For example, let’s say that you once has some esoteric hobby, or maybe a ‘job’ such as selling cars that had bad transmissions, rigged up exhaust systems, or installing ‘new’ (really old) brakes that were only just a bit better than the brakes on car when the customer brought it you have work done. The kind of job where you tell your customers, “That’s just the sound of the new tranny breakin itself in” as they are pulling out of your lot with their lemon car that is emitting strange noises from under the hood and the car.

    Let’s say you give up that kind of dishonest professional and do something productive and healthy with your life. Lets say several years pass or maybe even a much longer period of time. One day you happen to be walking by a small auto repair shop and see a guy standing out front telling a lady customer something like, “Maam, don’t you worry about a thing, that new tranny we installed is just breaking itself in and conforming to the needs of your engine, you know, each engine has its own unique output and a new tranny might need a few days or weeks to settle in. Those noises that you hear are a good sign, as a matter of facts I’d be worried if you were NOT hearing those ‘loud knocking noises’ coming from under your car. And if you notice a little tranny fluid leaking out thats a good sign too because sometime the tranny needs to release a little fluid. They dont make’em like this no more, maam, you got yourself a real fine car there.”

    After you heard something like that you would immediately know that this guy was full of it. You might even ponder about this for a long time. You might even start thinking that you’d like to speak with that lady and tell her exactly and specifically how and why she’d been cheated. You might go out of your way to right this wrong. You might even contact a local newspaper and expose this fraud while utilizing your inside knowledge of the trade to explain fine points of the trade that most of the public might not be aware of.

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    Expelliarmus May 10, 2011 at 8:20 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: You’re apparently not very familiar with the story, which has been discussed roundly.

    I know what a real Kenyan birth certificate looks like.

    I know how one would go about getting a copy of a real Kenyan birth certificate.

    Everything else is pretty much irrelevant, since from the get go I know that the document you’ve been peddling is a fake. It’s the equivalent of a counterfeiter trying to pass off a $25 bill. No forensics needed.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 8:30 pm #

    Wile E.:
    Mr. Smith,

    What are your thoughts on the possibility that you may have been scammed?

    If things went down as you have described in regards to the procurement of so-called POSFKBC, what were your thoughts when you realized that the date and time of birth were identical to the already released COLB?Didn’t something smell a little fishy?

    I was not scammed. The hospital did not know that I was coming. On top of that I only gave the female admin staff a very small time allotment (mere minutes) to return to me with a certified copy of US president Barack Obama’s original hospital birth record. Not enough time to alter documents or create a forgery/fake.

    Before approaching the hospital on the February, 19 2009, I crafted an intricate plan to insure that a fake or forged document would not be ‘waiting’ inside for me.

    Furthermore, I entered the hospital under the guise that I was searching for my ill sister that had fallen sick while working in Kenya. I told the hospital that my family and I were seriously worried about her and that it had been a about a month since we last heard from her and that in her last email she told us that she was feeling ill and that if things got worse she was going seek medical help.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 8:34 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I was not scammed.The hospital did not know that I was coming.On top of that I only gave the female admin staff a very small time allotment (mere minutes) to return to me with a certified copy of US president Barack Obama’s original hospital birth record.Not enough time to alter documents or create a forgery/fake.

    Before approaching the hospital on the February, 19 2009, I crafted an intricate plan to insure that a fake or forged document would not be waiting’ inside for me.

    Furthermore, I entered the hospital under the guise that I was searching for my ill sister that had fallen sick while working in Kenya. I told the hospital that my family and I were seriously worried about her and that it had been a about a month since we last heard from her and that in her last email she told us that she was feeling ill and that if things got worse she was going seek medical help.

    I thought you originally said you bribed an officer who got it for you not some random staff member?

  60. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 8:44 pm #

    Expelliarmus:

    Please provide your sources and cite evidence. Talk is cheap.

    Almost invariably after I take the time to write out a thorough, thoughtful and lengthy answer to a skeptic’s or critic’s question I then receive a short reply void of facts and filed with unsupported claims and accusations. Thank you so much.

    I find those sort of replies to childish, similar to a person that can’t accept being incorrect on any points and even when they are cornered and defeated they will reply with some imaginary evidence such as, though not limited to, “Hey, I know for sure that I am correct! My best friend was an expert in that area and my mom worked in that field if study for 30 years and my sister just happens to have just written a dissertation on the same subject and I just read a book about it and I actually met in person the source when I was invited to a special diner party with the Congressman and this was after I already studied about this subject in prep school and on top of that there’s no way you could be correct because look at those stupid striped polo shirts and dumb cap that you always wear, and you f–cking talk like that damn Eminem rapper and on top of that you claim to be from Iowa!

    So, Mrs Expelliarmus, please provide cite your sources and provide some viewable evidence. I’d like to see this hospital birth certificate from CPGH Mombasa that are implying to have seen and does not look like Obama’s 1961 CPGH bc.

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    FUTTHESHUCKUP May 10, 2011 at 8:48 pm #

    Why is anyone even talking to these buffoons? All they do is blow hot air. The president has done what he needs to do for rational people to know the truth about him and the birther klan.

    President Obama has taken out two terrorists in the past couple of weeks – Osama bin Laden and Donald Trump.

  62. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 8:52 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): I thought you originally said you bribed an officer who got it for you not some random staff member?

    You are correct, I did bribe an officer. What’s your point? Are you saying I can only bribe one person?

    I’m not going to explain the whole account again after I’ve already explained it literally thousands of times.

    Do your own homework or at least read before ranting. Thank you.

    A good place to start would be my 4th of July letter to every single member of US Congress.

    A near 4000 page PDF containing each individually notarized letter, each envelope and each USPS Certified Mail receipt can found at the following link (the folder contains eight (8) segments because scribd.com cannot handle a 4000 page PDF. Each segment contains about 500 pages):

    http://www.scribd.com/collections/2841163/Lucas-Daniel-Smith-4th-of-July-Letter-to-Congress

  63. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 8:54 pm #

    FUTTHESHUCKUP:
    Why is anyone even talking to these buffoons? All they do is blow hot air. The president has done what he needs to do for rational people to know the truth about him and the birther klan.

    President Obama has taken out two terrorists in the past couple of weeks – Osama bin Laden and Donald Trump.

    So, you yourself can talk here but everyone else should not? Please lead by example, Sir.

  64. avatar
    FUTTHESHUCKUP May 10, 2011 at 8:58 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: So, you yourself can talk here but everyone else should not? Please lead by example, Sir.

    Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem. I never said that anyone shouldn’t talk to the buffoons. I asked them why they were. Moreover, I wasn’t talking to the buffoons

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    Welsh Dragon May 10, 2011 at 9:01 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’d like to see this hospital birth certificate from CPGH Mombasa

    Well There’s your problem – Expelliarmus didn’t mention a ‘hospital birth certificate’ – there’s probably a good reason for that – hospital birth certificates ,complete with cute little footprints is just too AMERICAN for a 1961 hospital in a BRITISH protectorate.

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    James M May 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’m not going to explain the whole account again after I’ve already explained it literally thousands of times.

    There are basic questions that you never answered.

    I remember asking you to describe your trip to Mombasa. What cities did you fly to? What passport stamps did you get? Did you travel by bus or by train in Kenya? What was the trip from Nairobi to Mombasa like?

    Do you have any admissible evidence that places you in Kenya at any time? I personally would be satisfied by an image of a passport stamp.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: You are correct, I did bribe an officer.What’s your point?Are you saying I can only bribe one person?

    I’m not going to explain the whole account again after I’ve already explained it literally thousands of times.

    Do your own homework or at least read before ranting.Thank you.

    A good place to start would be my 4th of July letter to every single member of US Congress.

    A near 4000 page PDF containing each individually notarized letter, each envelope and each USPS Certified Mail receipt can found at the following link (the folder contains eight (8) segments because scribd.com cannot handle a 4000 page PDF.Each segment contains about 500 pages):

    http://www.scribd.com/collections/2841163/Lucas-Daniel-Smith-4th-of-July-Letter-to-Congress

    I’m sorry lucas but your story changes more often than your underwear

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: You are correct, I did bribe an officer.What’s your point?Are you saying I can only bribe one person?

    I’m not going to explain the whole account again after I’ve already explained it literally thousands of times.

    Do your own homework or at least read before ranting.Thank you.

    A good place to start would be my 4th of July letter to every single member of US Congress.

    A near 4000 page PDF containing each individually notarized letter, each envelope and each USPS Certified Mail receipt can found at the following link (the folder contains eight (8) segments because scribd.com cannot handle a 4000 page PDF.Each segment contains about 500 pages):

    http://www.scribd.com/collections/2841163/Lucas-Daniel-Smith-4th-of-July-Letter-to-Congress

    Mr. Smith,

    What you describe contains no evidence which supports the veracity of your document. You can send a fake document to Congress just as easily as you can send a real one and you’ve provided nothing to corroborate that you were even in Kenya at the time in question, nor to refute that the administrator who signed the document didn’t hold that position when you were allegedly in Kenya, nor have you explained why the future hospital administrator signed his name wrong, nor have you explained why he denied your POSFKBC when he was emailed regarding it, nor have you explained why you paid thousands of dollars for a document which, if legitimate, would have been available to the public according to Kenyan law. Would you care to provide evidence on any of these points? How your voice sounds is irrelevant (at least to me), but your POSFKBC lacks any sort of credibility with all of these issues outstanding…

  69. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:07 pm #

    Dear Mrs FUTTHESHUCKUP,

    Why are you wasting your time by talking to me? Why would you ask other people why they are wasting their time by talking to me but the then, now, YOU are talking to me?

    Do you have a logical answer for this? Or are you one of those people that I was recently, a couple comments up, talking about that can never admit that they are incorrect on any points?

    I hope that you will start leading by example, Mam. It’s not write to imply that others should or shouldn’t do something yet you yourself are able to continue to do as you please.

    Mam, where is your integrity and your character?

  70. avatar
    FUTTHESHUCKUP May 10, 2011 at 9:09 pm #

    Oh boy, that person just identified himself as a buffoon. If I had know that, I wouldn’t have responded to him

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    gorefan May 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Before approaching the hospital on the February, 19 2009, I crafted an intricate plan to insure that a fake or forged document would not be waiting’ inside for me.

    But the fake stamp with the misspelled name proves that in fact, a fake BC was waiting for you. When Doli Okeke went to get the souvenir, she would not have had time to create the stamp and get back to you in time.

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    Paul Pieniezny May 10, 2011 at 9:19 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: In the past I’d heard of people selling a grilled cheese sandwich with the face of Jesus having been enigmatically/supernaturally burnt into the bread.

    There you have it. It is about religious relics. Obama’s Kenyan BC is the Shroud of Turin. Carbon-dated and all.

    Next, Lucas is going to tell us he’s got a house for sale that is haunted by the Virgin Mary. Oh wait, he’s already done that.

    Or he could try to sell us The Just Judges, the stolen left panel of the Mystic Lamb, including of course the birth certificates of Harry Serguey Truman and Lyndon Baines Johnson – you know, those that Eisenhower hid at the back of the panel when he visited Europe and that he should have used to claim French nationality for the holders.

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Before approaching the hospital on the February, 19 2009, I crafted an intricate plan to insure that a fake or forged document would not be waiting’ inside for me.

    I’m dubios that your ‘intricate plan’ was also a good plan – if someone was looking for a mark to sell a pre-made FKBC to, I don’t see how your plan (with all of its intricacies – typically not a good thing for a plan to have, by the way… they make it more likely for something to go wrong) would have done anything but play into their hands. You’re either a con man or very, very gullible…

  74. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:25 pm #

    Slartibartfast: Mr. Smith,

    What you describe contains no evidence which supports the veracity of your document. You can send a fake document to Congress just as easily as you can send a real one and you’ve provided nothing to corroborate that you were even in Kenya at the time in question, nor to refute that the administrator who signed the document didn’t hold that position when you were allegedly in Kenya, nor have you explained why the future hospital administrator signed his name wrong, nor have you explained why he denied your POSFKBC when he was emailed regarding it, nor have you explained why you paid thousands of dollars for a document which, if legitimate, would have been available to the public according to Kenyan law.Would you care to provide evidence on any of these points?How your voice sounds is irrelevant (at least to me), but your POSFKBC lacks any sort of credibility with all of these issues outstanding…

    How come when grumpy old women like you ask a specific question and then you receive a specific answer to your question you then pretend that the question was not answered and then you start ranting.

    Let me give you an example of what you are doing so that you can better understand and, hopefully, correct your handicapped-like actions. (Btw, I read that Jesus had speak to his people like they were children to so he talked in parables, you know, examples that make it easier to learn):

    You, gummy old woman Slartibartfast, ask this question: “Lucas, I though you said that you are an American, why is it that you now say that you are from Iowa?”.

    Me, I, He, The, Lucas D. Smith, reply with this answer: “Dear Mrs. Slartibartfast, Iowa has been a state in the USA for a long time. An Iowan is also an American”.

    Then, you gummy old woman Slartibartfast, reply with this rebuttal: “Lucas, what you describe contains no evidence! You can eat a cheese pizze all day long and you still wouldn’t know how fly a kite really high in the sky in a clear blue day! You can put a potato under your bed every night Lucas and that still wont be able to take he subway in Los Angeles on a Friday night! Lucas, you still haven’t explained why I can understand your very simple and forthright answers to all questions! Lucas, is this because you have a wooden table in your kitchen and I refrigerator nearby! Damn you, Lucas, how come when the light comes through the bedroom window it makes my eyes hurt then theres those British idiots and their wedding! Makes me want wonder why you went to Kenya in the first place!

    Does that make sense to you? No? Well, me neither.

  75. avatar
    Suranis May 10, 2011 at 9:27 pm #

    Guys, guys, we actually have filmed proof of the event in question. So lets go back in time and watch this. It will answer all your questions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKOil0YXiE

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm #

    FUTTHESHUCKUP:
    Oh boy, that person just identified himself as a buffoon. If I had know that, I wouldn’t have responded to him

    Do you like me or something? I’m not gay, so please don’t get your hopes up.

  77. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm #

    gorefan: But the fake stamp with the misspelled name proves that in fact, a fake BC was waiting for you.When Doli Okeke went to get the souvenir, she would not have had time to create the stamp and get back to you in time.

    Please cite your sources and provide tangible evidence. And please, no more contradicting online internet data.

    You know, like Mary Othigo and Merry Othigo. You know, the CPGH administrator that now works a Aga Khan hospital in Kenya.

    Go to Aga Khan hospital website and you will see that her name is spelled MARY Othogo.

    Wow. She must be forging documents at that hospital because her name is really spelled MERRY Othigo.

    You people are brilliant. Maybe you should take a nap because you are need lots of rest when using so much brain power.

  78. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:35 pm #

    Suranis:
    Guys, guys, we actually have filmed proof of the event in question. So lets go back in time and watch this. It will answer all your questions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKOil0YXiE

    Yeah, but my voice in that one doesn’t sound right. Any change that you can do an Eminem voice over?

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    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: How come when grumpy old women like you ask a specific question and then you receive a specific answer to your question you then pretend that the question was not answered and then you start ranting.

    Let me give you an example of what you are doing so that you can better understand and, hopefully, correct your handicapped-like actions.(Btw, I read that Jesus had speak to his people like they were children to so he talked in parables, you know, examples that make it easier to learn):

    You, gummy old woman Slartibartfast, ask this question: “Lucas, I though you said that you are an American, why is it that you now say that you are from Iowa?”.

    Me, I, He, The, Lucas D. Smith, reply with this answer: “Dear Mrs. Slartibartfast, Iowa has been a state in the USA for a long time.An Iowan is also an American”.

    Then, you gummy old woman Slartibartfast, reply with this rebuttal:“Lucas, what you describe contains no evidence!You can eat a cheese pizze all day long and you still wouldn’t know how fly a kite really high in the sky in a clear blue day!You can put a potato under your bed every night Lucas and that still wont be able to take he subway in Los Angeles on a Friday night!Lucas, you still haven’t explained why I can understand your very simple and forthright answers to all questions!Lucas, is this because you have a wooden table in your kitchen and I refrigerator nearby! Damn you, Lucas, how come when the light comes through the bedroom window it makes my eyes hurt then theres those British idiots and their wedding!Makes me want wonder why you went to Kenya in the first place!

    Does that make sense to you? No? Well, me neither.

    Wow. I didn’t say anything about you not being an American (and my only comment regarding your voice was that I don’t care about it – I referred to a bunch of facts that show your story to be highly unlikely (to put it nicely). I’m not sure what the purpose of the word salad you served up is, but I suggest that if you can’t just drop the birthers and walk away you should seek professional help.

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    Majority Will May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

    “The lunatic is on the grass
    The lunatic is on the grass
    Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
    Got to keep the loonies on the path . . .”

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    gorefan May 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Please cite your sources and provide tangible evidence. And please, no more contradicting online internet data.

    Linkin is a professional website for professionals, Dr. Maganga, himself, created an account. This is not a newspaper article or other online internet data.

    http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/heltan-maganga/27/980/1b8

  82. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 9:58 pm #

    gorefan: Linkin is a professional website for professionals, Dr. Maganga, himself, created an account.This is not a newspaper article or other online internet data.

    http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/heltan-maganga/27/980/1b8

    I you still don’t get it.

    And you are ever so brilliant aren’t you? You are now stating, in your own words, that the Linkin profile is NOT “online internet data”.

    Have you ever thought about being a teacher? You’d be great at teaching todays youth.

  83. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:00 pm #

    Slartibartfast: Wow.I didn’t say anything about you not being an American (and my only comment regarding your voice was that I don’t care about it – I referred to a bunch of facts that show your story to be highly unlikely (to put it nicely).I’m not sure what the purpose of the word salad you served up is, but I suggest that if you can’t just drop the birthers and walk away you should seek professional help.

    With all due respect, mam, my point was show that you are a bumbling idiot. And I don’t mean that in an insulting fashion.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: How come when grumpy old women like you ask a specific question and then you receive a specific answer to your question you then pretend that the question was not answered and then you start ranting.

    Let me give you an example of what you are doing so that you can better understand and, hopefully, correct your handicapped-like actions.(Btw, I read that Jesus had speak to his people like they were children to so he talked in parables, you know, examples that make it easier to learn):

    You, gummy old woman Slartibartfast, ask this question: “Lucas, I though you said that you are an American, why is it that you now say that you are from Iowa?”.

    Me, I, He, The, Lucas D. Smith, reply with this answer: “Dear Mrs. Slartibartfast, Iowa has been a state in the USA for a long time.An Iowan is also an American”.

    Then, you gummy old woman Slartibartfast, reply with this rebuttal:“Lucas, what you describe contains no evidence!You can eat a cheese pizze all day long and you still wouldn’t know how fly a kite really high in the sky in a clear blue day!You can put a potato under your bed every night Lucas and that still wont be able to take he subway in Los Angeles on a Friday night!Lucas, you still haven’t explained why I can understand your very simple and forthright answers to all questions!Lucas, is this because you have a wooden table in your kitchen and I refrigerator nearby! Damn you, Lucas, how come when the light comes through the bedroom window it makes my eyes hurt then theres those British idiots and their wedding!Makes me want wonder why you went to Kenya in the first place!

    Does that make sense to you? No? Well, me neither.

    Lucas you totally avoided every one of Slarti’s questions as you normally do

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:10 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I you still don’t get it.

    And you are ever so brilliant aren’t you? You are now stating, in your own words, that the Linkin profile is NOT “online internet data”.

    Have you ever thought about being a teacher?You’d be great at teaching todays youth.

    He’s saying Mangana knows how to spell his own name, unlike your misspelling you most likely cribbed from some random article and not an official database.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm #

    gorefan: Linkin is a professional website for professionals, Dr. Maganga, himself, created an account.This is not a newspaper article or other online internet data.

    http://ke.linkedin.com/pub/heltan-maganga/27/980/1b8

    Here’s the hospitals official website. This is not an onlne newspaper or something that a person like you added to the internet world in your relentless efforts to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Merry/Mary Othigo is the old Administrator at Coast Province General Hospital. She now works at Aga Khan Hospital.

    Notice that Merry Othigo’s name is spelled MARY Othigo on the hospitals official website.

    http://www.agakhanhospitals.org/email.asp?mailto=Dr%20Mary%20Othigo

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Here’s the hospitals official website.This is not an onlne newspaper or something that a person like you added to the internet world in your relentless efforts to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Merry/Mary Othigo is the old Administrator at Coast Province General Hospital.She now works at Aga Khan Hospital.

    Notice that Merry Othigo’s name is spelled MARY Othigo on the hospitals official website.

    http://www.agakhanhospitals.org/email.asp?mailto=Dr%20Mary%20Othigo

    What does this have to do with you putting the wrong administrator’s name on the fake birth certificate you created?

  88. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:16 pm #

    Lucas would you be willing to talk about your whole adventure and be interviewed on Reality Check Radio?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Lucas you totally avoided every one of Slarti’s questions as you normally do

    Hello cute lady, my precious tulip,

    There was only one question asked. And I answered it. It was regarding bribes.

    Most people read before they post immature accusations.

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    gorefan May 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I you still don’t get it.

    Of course you don’t get it. You are the one saying he spells his name different then he spells it himself. Where is your proof? How about some documentation from Dr. Maganga? It is incumbent upon you to authenticate his signature. Which for some reason, you seem incapable of doing.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:18 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Hello cute lady, my precious tulip,

    There was only one question asked. And I answered it. It was regarding bribes.

    Most people read before they post immature accusations.

    Sorry Lucas but I’m straight I don’t swing the way you do which I imagine is like some kind of crooked arrow. Actually Slarti asked you several questions

  92. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:20 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): What does this have to do with you putting the wrong administrator’s name on the fake birth certificate you created?

    Do you come up with these weird questions yourself? Or do you pay old ladies at the nursing home to write this stuff for you?

  93. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Do you come up with these weird questions yourself? Or do you pay old ladies at the nursing home to write this stuff for you?

    Do you always change the subject when you’re asked a question you know you won’t answer? Again what does your changing the subject have to do with the Wrong administrators name being on your fake certificate?

  94. avatar
    Slartibartfast May 10, 2011 at 10:25 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: With all due respect, mam, my point was show that you are a bumbling idiot.And I don’t mean that in an insulting fashion.

    Mr. Smith,

    Apparently you are as bad at making yourself understood as you are a forger. I raised valid challenges to your document and you think that makes me an idiot? Okay, since I’m an idiot and you seem to want explicit questions, please explain:

    1. Why you wont show entry visas, hotel or other receipts, or any evidence at all that you were in Kenya durning February 2009?

    2. Why your document was signed by a doctor who was not yet the hospital administrator? (and why did he sign as administrator?)

    3. Why did said doctor spell his name differently that he does on a Linkedin account which he himself created?

    4. Why you didn’t just ask for a document that, if legitimate, would have been provided to you for a fee much smaller that your alleged bribes?

    5. Why the measurements on your POSFKBC contain unusual information and fall far outside of the norm (unlike President Obama’s current stature)?

    6. Why did Dr. Managa deny your POSFKBC in an email?

    7. How would your ‘intricate plan’ detect someone who had already prepared a fake BC for the president (to sell to gullible American tourists)?

  95. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:28 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Sorry Lucas but I’m straight I don’t swing the way you do which I imagine is like some kind of crooked arrow.Actually Slarti asked you several questions

    Sorry about that, I got you two ladies mixed up. Probably because when I answer one of your questions I usually get a reply from the other lady, and vice verse.

    The original questions, that you asked, was “I thought you originally said you bribed an officer who got it for you not some random staff member?”

    And I answered that question specifically.

    Kisses for your girls.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:30 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Sorry about that, I got you two ladies mixed up.Probably because when I answer one of your questions I usually get a reply from the other lady, and vice verse.

    The original questions, that you asked, was “I thought you originally said you bribed an officer who got it for you not some random staff member?”

    And I answered that question specifically.

    Kisses for your girls.

    I’m sorry Lucas but you never answered mine or Slarti’s question. I asked you the same question last time you claimed you were leaving this site and you still haven’t answered. No you said “oh yeah i bribed one”. Each retelling of your story you change details. So again why is the hospital administrator’s signature and name for the wrong administrator in charge at the time you supposedly went to Kenya. Also to reiterate what Slarti said: Why the need to bribe when it would have been available publicly under Kenyan law?

  97. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:31 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Do you always change the subject when you’re asked a question you know you won’t answer?Again what does your changing the subject have to do with the Wrong administrators name being on your fake certificate?

    No, typically and invariably I answer the questions.

    Now here’s my question to you: Do you think that you could stop sending me the gay emails asking me for naked pictures of myself?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:35 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: No, typically and invariably I answer the questions.

    Now here’s my question to you: Do you think that you could stop sending me the gay emails asking me for naked pictures of myself?

    No typically and invariably you avoid them. You’re projecting again Lucas. I heard you and Larry Sinclair hooked up. It would explain why he was a bit confused. Then again you’re both con artists so I can see how you get along so well. Maybe you traded sexual favors for the creation of the fake birth certificate?

  99. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:36 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): I’m sorry Lucas but you never answered mine or Slarti’s question.I asked you the same question last time you claimed you were leaving this site and you still haven’t answered.No you said “oh yeah i bribed one”.Each retelling of your story you change details.So again why is the hospital administrator’s signature and name for the wrong administrator in charge at the time you supposedly went to Kenya.Also to reiterate what Slarti said: Why the need to bribe when it would have been available publicly under Kenyan law?

    Do you get all your information from this website? You are very ill informed. Please cite souces.

    And your questions about why I would need to bribe the hospital in the first place is very very immature. At least I hope that it is immature. If it not then you are just a plain old idiot (with a ll due respect).

    By that way, I forgot to ask you, what position do you like the best best? On all fours or do you like the reach around?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:36 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: No, typically and invariably I answer the questions.

    Now here’s my question to you: Do you think that you could stop sending me the gay emails asking me for naked pictures of myself?

    How many Blumpkins did you have to give Larry Sinclair for the fake kenyan certificate?

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    Greg May 10, 2011 at 10:36 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: No, typically and invariably I answer the questions.

    Now here’s my question to you: Do you think that you could stop sending me the gay emails asking me for naked pictures of myself?

    So, the forger invents something new – fake gay emails?

    Wake me up when you’re successful in getting Obama out of office, or getting your POSFKBC admitted into court.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): No typically and invariably you avoid them.You’re projecting again Lucas.I heard you and Larry Sinclair hooked up.It would explain why he was a bit confused.Then again you’re both con artists so I can see how you get along so well.Maybe you traded sexual favors for the creation of the fake birth certificate?

    You really are into this gay stuff aren’t you? How long have you been at this? Do practice safely? And can you answer this one for me, what does poop on a stick taste like?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:39 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Do you get all your information from this website? You are very ill informed. Please cite souces.

    And your questions about why I would need to bribe the hospital in the first place is very very immature. At least I hope that it is immature.If it not then you are just a plain old idiot (with a ll due respect).

    By that way, I forgot to ask you, what position do you like the best best? On all fours or do you like the reach around?

    Ah here you go with the full peewee herman. You don’t have to lie Lucas we know the 14 year old you molested when you were 24 was really a catholic altar boy. How much did you pay in hush money?

    I get my information from varying sources, unlike you, I don’t have to make up grand stories to try to scheme people. You’re a grifter lucas, a scumbag who would most likely sell his own mother up the river for quick cash. I see you won’t answer the question. Why is the wrong administrators name on your fake certificate? Why did you have to bribe an official for a document that would have been available to the public if it actually existed?

  104. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm #

    Greg: So, the forger invents something new – fake gay emails?

    Wake me up when you’re successful in getting Obama out of office, or getting your POSFKBC admitted into court.

    If this is all fake then why do you waste your time talking to me? It is that you find me attractive? Or do you just like my voice?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: You really are into this gay stuff aren’t you? How long have you been at this?Do practice safely? And can you answer this one for me, what does poop on a stick taste like?

    Not at all Lucas, remember you’re calling everyone gay I just thought it was your way of staying in the closet. Most people who call everyone gay are self haters. The funny thing is you’re not even enough of a man to realize that’s not an insult and it shows you’re just a bigoted cumbucket. Again how many favors did you have to trade with Larry Sinclair?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: If this is all fake then why do you waste your time talking to me? It is that you find me attractive?Or do you just like my voice?

    Lucas is projecting his own insecurities on everyone who questions him now. Hey Lucas why don’t you go over to stormfront where you belong. They love you over there.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Ah here you go with the full peewee herman.You don’t have to lie Lucas we know the 14 year old you molested when you were 24 was really a catholic altar boy.How much did you pay in hush money?

    I get my information from varying sources, unlike you, I don’t have to make up grand stories to try to scheme people.You’re a grifter lucas, a scumbag who would most likely sell his own mother up the river for quick cash.I see you won’t answer the question.Why is the wrong administrators name on your fake certificate?Why did you have to bribe an official for a document that would have been available to the public if it actually existed?

    “Various sources”? Can you please cite the sources?

    Also, what makes being gay appeal to you? Is it the tighter fit for the small tool? Or do you just generally like to pump pump in the rump rump?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:44 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: “Various sources”? Can you please cite the sources?

    Also, what makes being gay appeal to you? Is it the tighter fit for the small tool?Or do you just generally like to pump pump in the rump rump?

    Hey Lucas are you going to actually answer any questions or are you just going to have another full on meltdown followed by your running off and claiming you’re not coming back. I’m glad you agree with the rest of us that your Kenyan certificate is a fake.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:46 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: “Various sources”? Can you please cite the sources?

    Also, what makes being gay appeal to you? Is it the tighter fit for the small tool?Or do you just generally like to pump pump in the rump rump?

    Your whole everyone is gay insult is so 4th grade. It explains your education level since they had to burn down your school just to get you to leave.

  110. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:48 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Hey Lucas are you going to actually answer any questions or are you just going to have another full on meltdown followed by your running off and claiming you’re not coming back.I’m glad you agree with the rest of us that your Kenyan certificate is a fake.

    I’ve already answered all of the questions, many times and in many places and for a long time now.

    At any rate, have you ever done the ‘boot in the poop shoot’? I read your editorial over at the other website that you post at where you were talking about the ‘pump pump in the rump rump’.

    And who comes up with those names for it?

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    Suranis May 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: “Various sources”? Can you please cite the sources?

    Also, what makes being gay appeal to you? Is it the tighter fit for the small tool?Or do you just generally like to pump pump in the rump rump?

    Musical interlude

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfW8TY5cUTE

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:51 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’ve already answered all of the questions, many times and in many places and for a long time now.

    At any rate, have you ever done the boot in the poop shoot’? I read your editorial over at the other website that you post at where you were talking about the pump pump in the rump rump’.

    And who comes up with those names for it?

    No you didn’t answer any of the questions. Again you keep avoiding them when they’re asked. Just like the last time and the time before. Trying to say Othingo’s name is misspelled has nothing to do with Mangana’s name being on the certificate when he wasn’t Chief Administrator when you supposedly took your trip. The information is wrong, your certificate is fake, just admit it. You make a bad forgery or someone scammed you.

    You have some really weird fetishes Lucas. Shouldn’t you be out molesting the kids that follow Barney around?

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    Greg May 10, 2011 at 10:52 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: If this is all fake then why do you waste your time talking to me? It is that you find me attractive?Or do you just like my voice?

    Sometimes it’s fun to talk to the patients who think they’re Jesus. Other times it’s just boring. You’ve gone from an interesting nut job, to a boring one.

    Wake me up when you’ve convinced the world that Obama is a fake. Or when you walk on water, or whatever you’re going to do for your next grift,

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:52 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Your whole everyone is gay insult is so 4th grade.It explains your education level since they had to burn down your school just to get you to leave.

    Is that your best come back? Not very good at all. You should practice in front of the mirror.

    Anyways, do you ever do the “brown pole in the white hole”? Or are you mostly into whites poles?

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm #

    Suranis: Musical interlude

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfW8TY5cUTE

    Isn’t this Lucas singing next to Elton John? Sure explains a lot

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 10:54 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Is that your best come back? Not very good at all. You should practice in front of the mirror.

    Anyways, do you ever do the “brown pole in the white hole”? Or are you mostly into whites poles?

    It’s not a comeback its just the truth there. Really Lucas you have this weird obsession with gay sex.

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 10:58 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): It’s not a comeback its just the truth there.Really Lucas you have this weird obsession with gay sex.

    Why did you not answer my question? Do you like the old ‘brown pole in white hole’? Yes or No? Simple question.

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    Suranis May 10, 2011 at 11:06 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Why did you not answer my question? Do you like the old brown pole in white hole’?Yes or No? Simple question.

    What does a golf flagpole have to do with anything?

  119. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 10, 2011 at 11:07 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: Why did you not answer my question? Do you like the old brown pole in white hole’?Yes or No? Simple question.

    You’re the one who seems to be interested in that. That’s all you want to talk about is your gay fantasies instead of answering questions about your fake certificate.

  120. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 11:09 pm #

    Suranis: What does a golf flagpole have to do with anything?

    So, you are admitting that you are gay too? Are you the one that is on ‘all fours’ in the picture that Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) sent in the email? Or was that your mom and your aunt breaking the new carpet in?

  121. avatar
    FUTTHESHUCKUP May 10, 2011 at 11:10 pm #

    OMG, is that pole smoking buffon still here, Bob?

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    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 11:12 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): You’re the one who seems to be interested in that.That’s all you want to talk about is your gay fantasies instead of answering questions about your fake certificate.

    Is Suranis the one that is on all fours’ in the picture that you sent in your email? Or was that your daughter and you breaking the new carpet in?

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    Expelliarmus May 10, 2011 at 11:22 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: I’d like to see this hospital birth certificate from CPGH Mombasa

    Hospitals don’t issue birth certificates. You would have to contact the Department of Civil Registration. See http://www.births.go.ke/birth_cert.htm for Kenya registration process. See also Chapter 149. The Births and Deaths Registration Act – http://goo.gl/q2HMG (links to PDF) .

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    Suranis May 10, 2011 at 11:24 pm #

    Lucas D. Smith: So, you are admitting that you are gay too? Are you the one that is on all fours’ in the picture that Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) sent in the email? Or was that your mom and your aunt breaking the new carpet in?

    What have you got against carpet with the Number 4 in a repeating pattern? I think its really unusual and done very artistically. I think its very pretty and well made, thank you very much.

    Still dunno what my carpet has to do with Golf but hey…

  125. avatar
    Lucas D. Smith May 10, 2011 at 11:32 pm #

    Suranis: What have you got against carpet with the Number 4 in a repeating pattern? I think its really unusual and done very artistically. I think its very pretty and well made, thank you very much.

    Still dunno what my carpet has to do with Golf but hey…

    Well said! Finally someone that is not come-back-challenged.

    I will remember the ‘Suranis’ whenever I visit this website in the future.

    Good night.

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    Arthur May 11, 2011 at 12:10 am #

    Good night, Lucas. May flights of angels sing the to they rest.

    I have a correction to make. After hearing your voice for the first time, I surmised you were born in Rockford, IL, and that you were influenced by Eninem.

    After reading your latest posts, I now believe you were actually raised in a nice big building just outside Mt. Pleasant, IA, and that your peculiar vocal quality is most likely due to the influence of your fellow patients, some of whom were undoubtedly fancy boys, and at least one who believed he was Vanilla Ice.

  127. avatar
    J. Edward Tremlett May 11, 2011 at 12:16 am #

    Lucas, is tonight a bad night for you, or are you drunk or on drugs?

    I ask only because, as this conversation has gone on, you have become extremely incoherent.

  128. avatar
    Epectitus May 11, 2011 at 12:53 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: Yes, that is exactly what he was implying and its overtly and conspicuously apparent. The Eminem’ part is obvious and so are the remarks about my voice.

    I thought Eminem was white?

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    G May 11, 2011 at 12:59 am #

    Suranis: Guys, guys, we actually have filmed proof of the event in question. So lets go back in time and watch this. It will answer all your questions.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKOil0YXiE

    Ahh…a true classic! All of those clips in that series are funny, but that is definitely one of my favorites. I’ve seen it several times and I still can’t help but laugh from beginning to end. 🙂

    Lucas D. Smith: Yeah, but my voice in that one doesn’t sound right. Any change that you can do an Eminem voice over?

    Now, that was actually funny, Lucas and a good quality comeback.

    Here and there you do a decent job of providing a well-mannered jest or more sincere and developed post…

    …but then you flip like a switch again and start writing like some socially inept 12 year old. I just don’t get it. The rest of your posts tonight sadly devolved into such immature inanity (and sadly, dragged the rest of the responders down towards your sewer level in response.

    I really don’t get it. It comes across like you honestly have two different personalities in your head. One minute, you are someone trying to grow up and be better than their past mistakes…and *snap*…the next minute you switch into an extremely emotionally stunted weirdo with serious hang-ups and anger management issues.

    I try to treat you fairly and have a sincere conversation with you, whenever possible, despite your past… but when I keep seeing such a pattern of irrational and immature behavior, it becomes quite difficult, frankly to remain sympathetic and not completely write you off as a hopeless and petulant nut and shyster.

    I do believe that some part of you truly wishes to become a better person…but you seem to be too lax in working towards that and preventing yourself from slipping back into the type of stunted behavior that has probably been part of getting you into trouble your whole life.

    I spend the time to say these words not to attack or rub them in your face, but because someone needs to be calmly honest with you in hopes that you can learn to reflect instead of gut-react and eventually learn to better yourself in the process.

    Which brings me to again ask this sincere question that I asked above, and which I’ll try to give you the benefit of the doubt that you merely overlooked it, instead of dodged:

    G: 3. The one thing I don’t understand is why you feel your accent or manner of speech is something you have to “whiten”. Call this simple regional naivity, but I never thought of Cedar Rapids, IA as sounding “street”.
    ….
    Maybe your manner of speech came from some of your other travels? FL? I don’t know, you tell me.
    We live in a vast country with numerous regional dialects, so I can understand that folks from different places will have different manners and tones to their speech patterns.

    What I’m getting at is I sincerely don’t understand where your speech patterns came from. You’ve told us a bit about your background, but nothing that bridges that connection….

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    obsolete May 11, 2011 at 1:17 am #

    I must say, I don’t read this site to see Lucas D. Smith’s gay pedo sex fantasies splashed around. Shouldn’t he, Lucas D. Smith, be posting that stuff elsewhere?

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    Jeffrey Doobin May 11, 2011 at 2:55 am #

    Lucas D. Smith: For the record, Eminem is an ok guy I guess. I don’t have anything bad to say of him.At any rate, I’ve never really been a fan of his. In the 1990s I enjoyed listening to a wide variety of music which included rap such as DMX, Cormega, Nas and also members of the Wu-tang Clan. During that time period I would say that that music was inspirational to anyone growing up poor in America, regardless of color.

    However, for the most part, I stopped listening to rap music several years for several reasons such as, though not limited to:

    1.The newer rap turned into fake’ music or life intimidating art’.

    2.The music was very negative. I believe in the law of attraction. In other words, if you constantly talk/sign about being oppressed, poor, life is a constant struggle, being in jail/prison then you will probablyalways have that sort of life. For several years now I have preferred to think predominately positive thoughts because I enjoy living a healthy, loving and fun life.

    3.Even if rap music nowadays was the same as it was in 1990s I still probably wouldn’t listen to it much. The beat and tone of this music is certainly pleasing and to the ear and appealing to the body but the words’ would, in many aspects, no longer apply to my life and I would not find the same inspiration in the music that I found throughout the 1990s.

    4. I also believe that rap music ruins lives and influences young people, especially black youth, to throw away their lives in an attempt to lead a way of life that really no longer exists in America.Most wannabes’ nowadays are NOT whiteboys’ but rather they are young blacks that are choosing to lead a life that really no longer is a reality in America.

    5. The year 2003 was first time that I left the country (USA).I’d recently been released from prison after discharging a 5 year sentence (served 3 years).Four months later I made my first trip to the Dominican Republic. This first trip was a real eye opener and a reality check.I learned that there are really no poor’ or oppressed people’ in present day United States of America. I’d grown up in the USA thinking that I was poor (financially). After my first trip to the Dominican Republic I started to understand that in reality I (and all other contemporary young Americans) had never been poor’ at in point in life in America. At that point I really began to become disillusioned with rap music.I became interested in music such as bachata dominicana, merengue dominicano and salsa. One of my favorite songs is Ajena’ by Frank Reyes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH262w7Chr8

    6.I went on to attend a catholic university in the Dominican Republic and start a new life in that country. I was/am really impressed with the people in the Dominican Republic. These people survive without social welfare programs that lots of Americans seem to believe make life possible in America.

    Here are a few additional notes regarding my voice:

    1. Ever since I went public with Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate I’ve felt pressure, from within myself, to whiten’ my voice in fear of not being accepted by others in the eligibility community.

    2. In the video where I am talking in front if the Santa Ana court house I was trying to talk as white’ as I possibly could. Also, I have sometimes tried to sound more white by using other methods such as talking through my nose. I’ve also sometimes tried to hold my mouth shut more and talk from the side of my mouth in attempts to sound more white.

    3.Even though I’ve made these attempts to whiten my voice for camera and radio interviews I’ve still managed to be shunned my a number of fellow birthers that can sort of see through my attempts to whiten my voice.

    More noted on music:

    Aside from adopting Dominican music as my own music I still also listen to the following music:

    1.R&B such as, though not limited to:Mary J. Blige, R. Kelly and definitely Jaheim.

    2.I also still listen to various classic R&B and Soul music from the 1970s and 1980s

    3.I also still listen various classic rock songs such as, though not limited to: ‘Paint it Black’ by the Rolling Stones and Sweat Home Alabama’ by Lynyrd Skynyrd.

    4. I also like many songs from the 1980s/1990s/2000s rock band known as Guns N Roses.

    5. I also love Beethoven’s 5th symphony and similar music.

    Ok, I couldn’t subject myself to actually reading this post, but it’s extraordinary length and completely off topic subject matter cause to conclude that this man is on drugs – methamphetamine to be exact.

    Might be crack or powder cocaine, but my money’s on fat crystal rocks, given his mid-west location and obvious white-trash-ness.

    I would suggest he gets help, but I don’t give a shit.

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    Majority Will May 11, 2011 at 7:06 am #

    J. Edward Tremlett:
    Lucas, is tonight a bad night for you, or are you drunk or on drugs?

    I ask only because, as this conversation has gone on, you have become extremely incoherent.

    Who cares? What a loser.

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    Paul Pieniezny May 11, 2011 at 8:36 am #

    Slartibartfast: 7. How would your intricate plan’ detect someone who had already prepared a fake BC for the president (to sell to gullible American tourists)?

    Lucas would not recognize an intricate plan if it was dancing naked on a harpsichord, singing “Intricate plans are here again”.

    Talking about Poles and holes, after Berg was Sue-ricked, the birthers have now exchanged Pole-a-Rick with Bald Rick.

    Not much has changed over the last two years, it’s still the same old rorting, shonky and earbashing bowls of rice devoid of deadset.

    And here, to cheer us all up, a blast from the past:
    http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/428-After-Birth.html

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    roadburner May 11, 2011 at 8:53 am #

    Slartibartfast: Mr. Smith,Apparently you are as bad at making yourself understood as you are a forger. I raised valid challenges to your document and you think that makes me an idiot? Okay, since I’m an idiot and you seem to want explicit questions, please explain:1. Why you wont show entry visas, hotel or other receipts, or any evidence at all that you were in Kenya durning February 2009?2. Why your document was signed by a doctor who was not yet the hospital administrator? (and why did he sign as administrator?)3. Why did said doctor spell his name differently that he does on a Linkedin account which he himself created?4. Why you didn’t just ask for a document that, if legitimate, would have been provided to you for a fee much smaller that your alleged bribes?5. Why the measurements on your POSFKBC contain unusual information and fall far outside of the norm (unlike President Obama’s current stature)?6. Why did Dr. Managa deny your POSFKBC in an email?7. How would your intricate plan’ detect someone who had already prepared a fake BC for the president (to sell to gullible American tourists)?

    you forgot the american date format as well

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    roadburner May 11, 2011 at 8:58 am #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Hey Lucas why don’t you go over to stormfront where you belong. They love you over there.

    er..they don´t.

    they´ve already debunked and dismissed it before.

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    Reality Check May 11, 2011 at 4:43 pm #

    I am just catching up on all the fun here. Yes, He, Lucas Smith is welcome to call my show. He can check the anti gay BS at the door however. We don’t need to hear about the sex with a child either.

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    Rickey May 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm #

    Lucas is a classic con artist. When confronted with his lies, he uses misdirection to change the subject and avoid giving a direct answer.

    He knows that he will never be prosecuted for forging a Kenyan birth certificate, unless he actually tries to sell it while passing it off as authentic.

    However, he won’t forge his passport to show him entering and leaving Kenya because he could be prosecuted for doing that.

    He tries to give himself credibility by offering to testify before Congress, but it is an empty gesture because he knows that Congress will never take him up on his offer.

    He tries to give himself credibility by offering to testify for Theresa Cao, but again it is an empty gesture because his offer will never be accepted due to the fact that (a) he could never get his forged birth certificate into evidence since it cannot be authenticated (never mind the fact that it has no relevance to Cao’s case) and (b) no competent attorney would ever use him as a witness because he would be destroyed on cross-examination when his criminal record is brought up.

    The only attorney who has ever considered using Lucas as a witness is Orly. Enough said.

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    gorefan May 11, 2011 at 5:48 pm #

    Rickey: no competent attorney would ever use him as a witness

    That may be part of the reason for the soft-core porn in the affidavit. Make it so outrageous no one would ever use it.

  139. avatar
    gorefan May 11, 2011 at 6:05 pm #

    Reality Check: I am just catching up on all the fun here.

    Hi RC – off topic issue. You DVR’d the CNN birther piece by Anderson Cooper. Can you verify Stig Waidelich’s cert # with a screen shot? A birther over at NBC’s site said that no one can prove it is 010920.

  140. avatar
    Daniel May 11, 2011 at 6:20 pm #

    Lucas the Forger sounds like he’s getting a bit desperate. Maybe he sees the end of the gravy train approaching

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    Reality Check May 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm #

    gorefan: Hi RC – off topic issue. You DVR’d the CNN birther piece by Anderson Cooper. Can you verify Stig Waidelich’s cert # with a screen shot? A birther over at NBC’s site said that no one can prove it is 010920.

    I posted this at The Fogbow. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1058

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    NBC May 11, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    Thanks, I have posted it at my blog as well in the hope of educating “Constituional (sic) Pat” as to the various claims he made and which were quickly rejected. His master piece, referring to a quote by the dissenting Judge as one made by Justice Gray. But there were many other interesting myths he believed in.