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National alert issued on Sheriff Arpaio

The National Association for Public Health Statistics and Information Systems (NAPHSIS), the industry association for vital records agencies in the USA, has issued a nationwide alert to its members warning them of possible contact by the Sheriff’s office. The following appeared in the June 27th Executive Director’s Newsletter.

Your office may have also recently received a survey from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in Arizona requesting specific information regarding birth registration.  In order to avoid misinterpretations surrounding this survey, states that choose to respond should supply only the appropriate statutes and/or rules and regulations that govern the birth filing processes.

It looks like Sheriff Joe is looking for a smoking gun somewhere, somehow, for his Obama “investigation.” I don’t see how this could be related to immigration, although I suppose that’s possible.

Thanks to Deep Birther for the information.

35 Responses to National alert issued on Sheriff Arpaio

  1. avatar
    JPotter July 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

    LOL! What a fishing expedition. Done in the name of his office? Seriously, what legitimate purpose would a county sheriff have in wasting resources (theirs and every other state’s) this way? Canvassing the whole country is not pursuing a specific investigation. It’s a thesis.

    Pondering who else might be interested in the birth registration processes of every state.

    Immigrations and citizenship concern nuts. The wingnuts perpetual obsession with ‘illegal’ voting.

    Since it’s all funneling from and to WND, and from thence to wingnut cesspools all over, what else might they use Arpaio’s office as a front for?

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    BillTheCat July 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

    Hahahaha everyone is being warned about the posse. Awesome 🙂

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    bgansel9 July 6, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    Doc, do you have a source for this info? Just curious.

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    y_p_w July 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    bgansel9:
    Doc, do you have a source for this info? Just curious.

    Might be members only. Most of the stuff on their website requires a membership with a password.

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    JPotter July 6, 2012 at 6:13 pm #

    bgansel9: Doc, do you have a source for this info? Just curious.

    Unfortunately, the newsletter in question is “members only”. Republishing on a public website wouldn’t be cool. Doc, did/do you receive this group’s pubs in your professional capacity?

    Doc did cite Deep Birther. He wouldn’t spoof anyone, now would he?

    The “Understanding a Birth Certificate” link at their site gave me a chuckle. If only there were such a link for birthers …

  6. avatar
    RuhRoh July 6, 2012 at 7:03 pm #

    Doc, can you dig a little deeper into this or perhaps flesh it out a bit more without compromising your source?

    This still feels a little sketchy.

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    y_p_w July 6, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    RuhRoh:
    Doc, can you dig a little deeper into this or perhaps flesh it out a bit more without compromising your source?

    This still feels a little sketchy.

    I’m guessing this is it, and Doc C has included a blurb that he considers would be “fair use”. For all we know, this may be the entirety of the part of responding to Arpaio. Other than that, if it’s protected with usernames and passwords, then providing a link would be useless.

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    sfjeff July 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm #

    So this is how the Birthers report this on Politicalforum.com

    As you know Sheriff Arpaio has just announced that he will hold a press conference on July 17th to the media about what they have uncovered in their ongoing investigation into Obama’s birthplace and especially the long form birth certificate. I was just cruising the net when I came across this National Alert just issued June 27th. It is an alert warning vital statistics departments in states to avoid Sheriff Arpaio’s questions to them pertaining to vital birth records. It was issued by the National Association for Public Health Statistics and Information Systems. It states:

    “Your office may have also recently received a survey from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in Arizona requesting specific information regarding birth registration. In order to avoid misinterpretations surrounding this survey, states that choose to respond should supply only the appropriate statutes and/or rules and regulations that govern the birth filing processes.”

    Now what I want to know is why is this a problem? I think it was reported on Drudge Report a few days ago that Sheriff Arpaio sent official lawmen this time to the Hawaii Dept of Vital Statistics and other places in Hawaii to investigate people in that office that had anything to do with birth registrations, namely Barack Obama. I can only assume that this Alert was sent out in response to that investigation. It looks like someone doesn’t want the Sheriff investigating Obama and to not reply to him or his department on a national basis anywhere in the states. The website for the information about the alert is a pro Obama website.

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    CarlOrcas July 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    sfjeff: Now what I want to know is why is this a problem?

    Why is what NAPHSIS said a problem?

    sfjeff: I think it was reported on Drudge Report a few days ago that Sheriff Arpaio sent official lawmen this time to the Hawaii Dept of Vital Statistics and other places in Hawaii to investigate people in that office that had anything to do with birth registrations, namely Barack Obama.

    He sent one deputy and a posse member who has no “official” status or authority. What crime, under Arizona law, are they investigating?

    sfjeff: It looks like someone doesn’t want the Sheriff investigating Obama and to not reply to him or his department on a national basis anywhere in the states

    That isn’t what NAPHSIS said, is it?

    sfjeff: The website for the information about the alert is a pro Obama website.

    Hello? NAPHSIS is “pro Obama”? Where do you get that from?

  10. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

    No. Read the text again. The comment was in response to a questionnaire sent to a state vital records office.

    sfjeff: I think it was reported on Drudge Report a few days ago that Sheriff Arpaio sent official lawmen this time to the Hawaii Dept of Vital Statistics and other places in Hawaii to investigate people in that office that had anything to do with birth registrations, namely Barack Obama. I can only assume that this Alert was sent out in response to that investigation.

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    Joe Acerbic July 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    Somebody at NAPHSIS obviously knows how birfoons operate and is warning to give strictly by the book answers instead of anything “free form” that birfoons could easily distort.

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    sfjeff July 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm #

    Okay folks- obviously I need to use quotation marks or better show that I was quoting a a Birther post on Politicalforum.com- not my own comments.

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    Majority Will July 6, 2012 at 9:52 pm #

    sfjeff:
    Okay folks- obviously I need to use quotation marks or better show that I was quoting a a Birther post on Politicalforum.com- not my own comments.

    Singed hair will eventually grow back. 😀

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    bgansel9 July 7, 2012 at 9:11 pm #

    Joe Acerbic: Somebody at NAPHSIS obviously knows how birfoons operate and is warning to give strictly by the book answers instead of anything “free form” that birfoons could easily distort.

    Well, if anyone knows how to distort, they would definitely be the birfoons.

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    The Magic M July 9, 2012 at 5:00 am #

    Joe Acerbic: Somebody at NAPHSIS obviously knows how birfoons operate and is warning to give strictly by the book answers instead of anything “free form” that birfoons could easily distort.

    Why would anyone be worried about anything Arpaio is going to say? If it’s anything, it’s giving birthers way too much credit.

  16. avatar
    Michael Bauser July 11, 2012 at 9:11 am #

    My least-insane guess is the Birther Posse is fishing for jurisdictions where it’s easier than average to get a copy of a birth certificate. Then, they can quote out of context and claim Hawaii is hiding something by following its procedures.

  17. avatar
    richCares July 12, 2012 at 11:41 am #

    it’s just a few days before the frog marching begins, shreriff Joe will reveal a signed affydavid from the un-named forger , the signature will be blocked off.They need to protect the ID of the forger (because there is no forger)

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    Keith July 12, 2012 at 9:25 pm #

    richCares:
    it’s just a few days before the frog marching begins, shreriff Joe will reveal a signed affydavid from the un-named forger , the signature will be blocked off.They need to protect the ID of the forger (because there is no forger)

    Or the signature will be there… ‘XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX’

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    JPotter July 12, 2012 at 10:09 pm #

    Keith: Or the signature will be there… ‘XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX’

    Not ‘Mike’? Or ‘Derek’? Remember Derek?

    ‘Lucas D. Smith’! Run, Lucas, run! You know you want to. 😉

    No way Arpaio’s going there. Too much for me to hope for. If he does, the sky’s the limit! The birthers will go nuts, frenzy, even. (And so will the obots, laughing at them). It’ll get some media chuckles, even. If he not only goes there, but implies there is a person in custody, in a specific place, look out. But again, Joe isn’t that nuts / dumb …. right?

    I know, I know, it’s impossible to underestimate de birf.

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    Keith July 13, 2012 at 7:23 am #

    JPotter: Not ‘Mike’? Or ‘Derek’? Remember Derek?</blockquote

    Nope. Dr. Polland or Dr. Polarik or whatever the heck his name is this week seems, despite his Phd. in what ever it might be this week, to be illiterate and he signs affidavits with 'X's.

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 13, 2012 at 9:26 am #

    You misspelled “XXXXXXXXXXXX.”

    Keith: Or the signature will be there… ‘XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX’

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 13, 2012 at 9:28 am #

    There are a dozen or more states where birth records are public.

    Michael Bauser: My least-insane guess is the Birther Posse is fishing for jurisdictions where it’s easier than average to get a copy of a birth certificate.

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    Keith July 13, 2012 at 9:56 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    You misspelled “XXXXXXXXXXXX.”

    Oh. So I did. My mistake.

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    Rickey July 13, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    richCares:
    it’s just a few days before the frog marching begins, shreriff Joe will reveal a signed affydavid from the un-named forger , the signature will be blocked off.They need to protect the ID of the forger (because there is no forger)

    If Sheriff Joe has a signed confession from the forger, shouldn’t the forger be under arrest?

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    Whatever4 July 13, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    Rickey: If Sheriff Joe has a signed confession from the forger, shouldn’t the forger be under arrest?

    You can trust the signature of a confessed forger?

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 13, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    Perhaps the sheriff offered him immunity.

    Rickey: If Sheriff Joe has a signed confession from the forger, shouldn’t the forger be under arrest?

  27. avatar
    Majority Will July 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Perhaps the sheriff offered him immunity.

    From hepatitis?

  28. avatar
    Rickey July 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    Whatever4: You can trust the signature of a confessed forger?

    Ha – maybe we should ask Lucas Smith about that!

  29. avatar
    Rickey July 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Perhaps the sheriff offered him immunity.

    I don’t believe that a sheriff has the authority to offer immunity to a suspect. That would be up to a prosecutor.

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    RetiredLawyer July 13, 2012 at 4:28 pm #

    Rickey: I don’t believe that a sheriff has the authority to offer immunity to a suspect. That would be up to a prosecutor.

    Aside from which, the “crime” if any, occurred outside of AZ. Any “immunity” anyone in AZ (except a Federal prosecutor) could give the forger would not be valid outside of AZ. So, whatever Sheruff Joe may have, it is not an affidavit that would be valid.

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    donna July 13, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    i would charge arpaio with dereliction of duty for allowing a “known forger” to walk the streets

    he seems to be more than willing to lock up undocumented immigrants who have committed a misdemeanor but not a “forger”?

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 13, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

    I didn’t say anything about the offer being legitimate.

    Rickey: Dr. Conspiracy:
    Perhaps the sheriff offered him immunity.

    I don’t believe that a sheriff has the authority to offer immunity to a suspect. That would be up to a prosecutor

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    JPotter July 13, 2012 at 10:13 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I didn’t say anything about the offer being legitimate.

    Ditto the offer of a hotel stay and a share of the sweet birfer bux so long as the patsy plays nice forger.

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    Rickey July 14, 2012 at 12:07 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I didn’t say anything about the offer being legitimate.

    Fair enough – there isn’t much about Arpaio which is legitimate.

    That said, if he does come up with an affidavit from someone confessing to forging the birth certificate, I would want to ask Sheriff Joe why the “forger” hasn’t been arrested.

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    Keith July 14, 2012 at 1:32 am #

    donna: i would charge arpaio with dereliction of duty for allowing a “known forger” to walk the streets

    i would charge arpaio with dereliction of duty for allowing a “known rapists” to walk the streets