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De Facto Arpaio

Former Deputy Chief Brian Sands of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has written a memoir titled “Arpaio De Facto Lawman” detailing his experiences with Sheriff Arpaio and the office. Stephen Lemons of the Phoenix New Times has an article on it. Fine Stephen, but we already know that Sheriff Joe is a narcissist. Tell us about the birthers!

For that, you will have to buy the book, and you will not be disappointed. The birthers get their own short chapter (7) titled, duh, “Birthers.” It mentions “probable cause,” a concept Sheriff Arpaio was not too fluent in. Sands puts it this way in terms of the Obama birth certificate investigation:

Arpaio’s perspective is I want to be involved, so let’s figure out how to establish an excuse for the reasonable test.

One of the questions surrounding the Cold Case Posse investigation was: just who was the Cold Case Posse. Sands answers this by saying:

At first, Zullo had several other Posse people “working” on the case, two of whom were civil private practice attorneys. The attorneys, for whatever reasons, distanced themselves. Now it was primarily Zullo and the newly-recruited [Brian] Reilly.

Enter Jerome Corsi, who was given office space by Arpaio. The Hawaii trip is discussed. When Deputy Chief Sands questioned Zullo about what evidence he had that would lead to a probable indictment, Zullo said nothing.

Sands does not take a firm stand about where Obama was born, but he maintains skepticism about Arpaio and the CCP investigation and makes this reasonable statement:

When the State of Hawaii came out and officially said that Obama was born in the State and denied Arpaio’s claims of not maintaining secure records[, y]ou would think nothing more could be investigated.

Of additional interest, Sands confirms Brian Reilly’s story on some detail points, some up until now, unpublished.

Update: A comment from Brian Reilly

Having just completed reading chapter 7, entitled “Birthers,” I have a few comments to make about former Chief Deputy Sand’s new Kindle book on Amazon.

Sands wrote that Arpaio asked us as Tea Party members to do a petition requesting the birth certificate investigation, and we were to bring the petition back to Arpaio. This was not an accurate statement. When we first met with Arpaio on August 18, 2011, we presented him with a petition with 242 signatures that we gathered the previous night on August 17, 2011. The petition idea was mine and mine alone. Arpaio knew nothing about the petition idea until it was presented to him at the August 18 meeting. At the August 18, meeting, Arpaio asked us to write a formal letter requesting an investigation of the Obama birth certificate and he said “put me in a box” and told me to come back to give all of our evidence and the petition and the letter to him on August 22, 2011, which I did alone.

Additionally, Chief Deputy Sands confirmed that I was unhappy with the conduct of the Zullo birth certificate investigation. (I was not impressed at the time with the biased way in which the investigation was being conducted along with other issues related to liability and I resigned from the Cold Case Posse. )

Chief Deputy Sands also confirmed that no taxpayer dollars were to be used in the investigation, and in fact tax dollars were used.

Sands also confirmed that Zullo had a few years of law enforcement, not the “decades” of law enforcement experience that Carl Gallups has advertised on his Freedom Friday radio show.

Of special note was what Sands related about Zullo’s lack of evidence regarding the birth certificate investigation. Very telling indeed.

I was very impressed with Chief Deputy Sands when I met him on August 18, 2011 when I was a Tea Party member and also when I was a Cold Case Posse member. Chief Sands was the only one to question whether the Jerry Corsi provided “witnesses” were actually considered “experts” and whether they had ever testified in court as experts. As a Cold Case Posse member, I can honestly say, I respected Chief Sands and his “by the book” approach to police work.

And one final note, Sands confirmed that Zullo and I were the only Cold Case Posse members who were actively involved in the investigation.

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51 Responses to De Facto Arpaio

  1. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 17, 2014 at 3:52 pm #

    First, it has to be said: what a stupid book title. Get a comma or a colon in there.

    Second, I cannot wait for the wailing and the rending of garments this will inspire over at Birfer Bob’s cesspit.

    I could almost pity Zullo, if he wasn’t such a contemptible seditionist.

  2. avatar
    bovril August 17, 2014 at 4:05 pm #

    Cross posting for completeness…..

    bovril August 17, 2014 at 2:46 pm (Quote) #

    Pants, just bought it….

    Still not a total waste, it confirms

    Reilly’s narrative about how he kicked off and became disillusioned and unhappy with the posse

    How Arpaio has no actual grasp of basic legal niceties such as probable cause

    Pinhole was told that a replacement BC is never going to look like the original but refused to accept it

    The “posse” now consists of Zullo and no one else

    Cori is correctly identified as nothing more than a blogger with a wild conspiracy mind set

    Zullo, when pushed in a corner and asked to explain exactly what his “great evidence” was in the context of actual indictments basically admits he has nothing

    Zullo is a true believer

    Pinholes entire reason for this was financial, voter stir up, and attempt to put the DOJ off and a hopefuls poke in the eye to Obama who he believes is orchestrating a witch hunt

    Nothing new but further confirmation of what is already known or suspected

  3. avatar
    Curious George August 17, 2014 at 4:48 pm #

    bovril
    “The “posse” now consists of Zullo and no one else.”

    “One” is the loneliest number you’ll ever know.

  4. avatar
    Thinker (mobile) August 17, 2014 at 4:50 pm #

    The graphic on the cover of that book is as unattractive and ridiculous as anything any birther has ever produced.

  5. avatar
    Jim August 17, 2014 at 4:50 pm #

    Curious George:
    bovril
    “The “posse” now consists of Zullo and no one else.”
    “One” is the loneliest number you’ll ever know.

    The Cold Zullo Posse

  6. avatar
    aarrgghh August 17, 2014 at 6:36 pm #

    usurpers beware
    your time will come
    once we find a horse
    for a posse of one
    burma shave

  7. avatar
    Reality Check August 17, 2014 at 8:42 pm #

    That’s great aarrgghh!

  8. avatar
    Benji Franklin August 17, 2014 at 8:44 pm #

    bovril: The “posse” now consists of Zullo and no one else

    You see I’ve gone through the motions on a horse with no mane

    It felt good too I’m completely insane

    In the posse you just remember my name

    ‘Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no evidence

    Zoo Low Low, LOW, Low-lo-lo-low, Lo-lo-LOW-LOW-low.

  9. avatar
    Reality Check August 17, 2014 at 9:28 pm #

    I had the same thought.

    Thinker (mobile):
    The graphic on the cover of that book is as unattractive and ridiculous as anything any birther has ever produced.

  10. avatar
    JPotter August 17, 2014 at 9:38 pm #

    Currently #53 in “True Crime” LOL!

  11. avatar
    Curious George August 17, 2014 at 9:45 pm #

    Truly, “Zullo Universe Shattering.”

  12. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 17, 2014 at 9:56 pm #

    It’s a song I’ve truly come to appreciate, and better than he deserves…

    Nevertheless, since it seems to be 70s night at OCT (what with George, Benji and I all referencing that decade’s music,) here’s Gilbert O’Sullivan singing Zoo-Low’s new theme song “Alone Again… Naturally.”

    http://youtu.be/D_P-v1BVQn8

  13. avatar
    Curious George August 17, 2014 at 10:57 pm #

    “Sittin’ here resting my bones,
    And this loneliness won’t leave me alone.
    It’s two thousand miles I roamed,
    Just to make this dock my home.”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UCmUhYSr-e4

  14. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 17, 2014 at 11:26 pm #

    THAT’S NOT THE 70s

  15. avatar
    aarrgghh August 17, 2014 at 11:54 pm #

    i’m sensing a posse tribute album in the offing …

  16. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 17, 2014 at 11:59 pm #

    “All by my seeellllfff…”

  17. avatar
    Keith August 18, 2014 at 12:01 am #

    Bonsall Obot:
    THAT’S NOT THE 70s

    Which one are you referring to? Otis (1967) or Gilbert(1972)?

    I suppose it could be argued that the 60’s really ran from 1963 to 1973, but I was there so I can’t quite recall exactly. 8-)

  18. avatar
    Keith August 18, 2014 at 12:06 am #

    I heard he sang a good song;
    I heard he had a style

    http://youtu.be/O1eOsMc2Fgg

  19. avatar
    Benji Franklin August 18, 2014 at 12:23 am #

    Here we are enjoying the imagery of Birther-quandry song references while the poor Birthers are getting that sinking-further feeling.

    Isn’t it interesting that so many of them brush aside the fact that they have seen hundreds of nails driven down through the lid of the coffin Birtherism has been buried in, and are still waiting for that 380th or 417th or 873rd nail to sink home before they decide to admit that there is nothing alive in there?

    Denial is a powerful instrument of self-deception.

    But one by one, all but a very crazy few of them will know Zullo played them for fools.

  20. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 18, 2014 at 12:27 am #

    Keith: Which one are you referring to? Otis (1967) or Gilbert(1972)?

    I suppose it could be argued that the 60′s really ran from 1963 to 1973, but I was there so I can’t quite recall exactly.

    Otis. No one could look at Gilbert’s outfit and hairstyle and think anything but 70s.

  21. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 18, 2014 at 12:32 am #

    Klown Kar Kap’n,
    Dat Klown Kar Kap’n,
    He mus’ know sump’n,
    But he don’ say nuthin’.
    Klown Kar Kap’n,
    He jus’ keep griftin’ along.

  22. avatar
    Curious George August 18, 2014 at 12:58 am #

    Keith
    “I suppose it could be argued that the 60′s really ran from 1963 to 1973, but I was there so I can’t quite recall exactly.”

    Ahh, but 1967 was such a good year. Far better than 1977. And I just love the Otis rendition.

  23. avatar
    Curious George August 18, 2014 at 1:15 am #

    According to this song, Zullo must really miss the other half of the Cold Case Posse. The lyrics are excellent.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22QYriWAF-U

  24. avatar
    Curious George August 18, 2014 at 2:29 am #

    But this really sums up the musical Birther tribute top 50 for the other half of the remaining Cold Case Posse disaster………

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/6EEW-9NDM5k?autoplay=1

  25. avatar
    Keith August 18, 2014 at 3:38 am #

    Curious George:
    But this really sums up the musical Birther tribute top 50 for the other half of the remaining Cold Case Posse disaster………

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/6EEW-9NDM5k?autoplay=1

    Geeze, Hutton and Greenspan must have felt left out on that one. The LSO played all the Keyboards you could want and Cory Wells did the vocal. At least Allsup got to pretend to be playing guitar.

    Edit: Whoops, I think I referenced the wrong post. I meant to post the previous ‘one’.

  26. avatar
    The Magic M August 18, 2014 at 5:42 am #

    Bonsall Obot: First, it has to be said: what a stupid book title. Get a comma or a colon in there.

    And the title picture has BR photoshop quality, and it says “POLICTICS” right on the title page. Sloppy…

  27. avatar
    Sam the Centipede August 18, 2014 at 7:37 am #

    The Magic M: And the title picture has BR photoshop quality, and it says “POLICTICS” right on the title page. Sloppy…

    Brian Sands isn’t exactly a literary genius or a clear thinker!

    Why does Sands describe Arpaio as “de facto” lawman? What does he think de facto means? Arpaio isn’t de facto a lawman; he IS a lawman! De facto refers to a person occupying a position or fulfilling a role without having been duly elected or appointed (whichever would be appropriate). It would be less incorrect to describe Arpaio as ex officio lawman, but that is still misleading because that implies the position of lawman comes from holding another office – once again, Arpaio IS a lawman.

    Based on the preview, it’s an extremely poorly written book, as if the bar bore is telling a bunch of victims his life story. Sands clearly doesn’t have a feel for the written language; he writes as if he hasn’t read anything more stretching that the local newspaper for many years.

    Thank you to those who did pay up and have picked out the shiny objects from the debris.

  28. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 18, 2014 at 8:45 am #

    He could have used an editor to his benefit.

    Sam the Centipede: Brian Sands isn’t exactly a literary genius or a clear thinker!

  29. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 18, 2014 at 8:47 am #

    Perhaps it means “lawman” by virtue of position, but not by virtue of embracing the ideals of the law, and not executing the office for something other than his own gratification.

    There is no explanation in the book of the term, which is used only once in the text:

    Now arrives another new “Sheriff,” tongue-in-cheek that is not even a de facto Sheriff; more Hollywood faux than what he tries to portray himself as, so titled “Chief” Steven Seagal, formally of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.

    Sands, Brian (2014-08-06). Arpaio De Facto Lawman (Kindle Locations 1523-1525). . Kindle Edition.

    Sam the Centipede: Why does Sands describe Arpaio as “de facto” lawman? What does he think de facto means? Arpaio isn’t de facto a lawman; he IS a lawman!

  30. avatar
    Rickey August 18, 2014 at 9:49 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    He could have used an editor to his benefit.

    Even better, he could have used a good ghostwriter.

  31. avatar
    wrecking ball August 18, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    He could have used an editor to his benefit.

    a graphic artist wouldn’t have hurt either.

  32. avatar
    Lupin August 18, 2014 at 10:44 am #

    Maybe he meant to write “de facto felon” and got confused?

  33. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG August 18, 2014 at 10:57 am #

    So, its just as everyone suspected, Zullo playing pretend.

  34. avatar
    James August 18, 2014 at 12:46 pm #

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RsnXwMZxb0 haha

  35. avatar
    Curious George August 18, 2014 at 2:01 pm #

    A current picture of Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse ……… A posse of one.

    tantem bike with one rider

  36. avatar
    Curious George August 18, 2014 at 2:13 pm #

    I’ll try again. A current film of the Cold Case Posse of one riding a tandem Cold Case Posse bike.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkprZIo6JA

  37. avatar
    foreigner August 19, 2014 at 4:09 am #

    is there anything about Monckton in the book ?

  38. avatar
    Dave B. August 19, 2014 at 4:23 am #

    Okay, it’s close enough to zombies. I’ll buy it.

  39. avatar
    RanTalbott August 19, 2014 at 5:09 am #

    Curious George: A current film of the Cold Case Posse of one riding a tandem Cold Case Posse bike.

    An excellent selection. Notice how the rider has incompetently chosen the approach with the least amount of control, and the greatest possibility of serious injury in the (highly likely) event of a crash.

    All it needs is Corsi running alongside him, calling out bad advice.

  40. avatar
    RanTalbott August 19, 2014 at 5:15 am #

    Sam the Centipede: Why does Sands describe Arpaio as “de facto” lawman?

    Struck me as odd, too.

    Considering that Arpaio is still insisting that the PDF is a forged “official government document”, “Duh Jure” might’ve worked better.

  41. avatar
    Bonsall Obot August 19, 2014 at 7:37 am #

    I think it’s nothing more complicated than the common phenomenon of a person of low-to-average intellect hearing someone they consider “smart” using a phrase, not understanding the meaning or context, and misappropriating it so he or she can sound “smart,” too.

    Somewhere, sometime, Sands likely heard someone referred to as “the de facto boss of that operation,” where that person was the unofficial boss who was also ruthless and out-of-control. Misunderstanding the context and meaning, Sands likely thought de facto meant out-of-control, which certainly describes Shurf Joke.

    Just a guess. And even if that is the case, he still needs punctuation to set the descriptive phrase apart from Shurf Joke’s name.

  42. avatar
    The Magic M August 19, 2014 at 8:05 am #

    Almost as priceless as the constant abuse of “prima facie”, both in meaning and spelling, by birther plaintiffs. ;)

  43. avatar
    alg August 19, 2014 at 8:56 am #

    I am less interested in Mr. Sands’ literary skills (or lack thereof) and more intrigued with his unveiling of the MCSO operations behind the scenes. He paints an insider’s portrait of a public agency gone mad at the whims of its elected executive.

    It’s unlikely that “Arpaio De Facto Lawman” will make the bestseller list. But it may become a useful reference for more a capable critical work that will undoubtedly be written about Sheriff Joe’s legacy upon his departure from public life.

  44. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 19, 2014 at 11:45 am #

    No.

    foreigner:
    is there anything about Monckton in the book ?

  45. avatar
    Dave B. August 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm #

    I’m working my way through the book, and it sure had potential to be something better– like Doc said, he could have used an editor. But sticking to the birther chapter, this quote’s interesting:
    “He (Arpaio) went on to say what one of them (the Surprise! Tea Party! gang) had mentioned, that what Obama had recently released on the internet was a computer fraud and that would give him jurisdiction. I (Brian Sands) told him the computer part of it is true (!!!!!!!!!), however, there was no financial gain attempted so fraud was a stretch.”

  46. avatar
    Benji Franklin August 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm #

    Try to imagine Mike Volin of BR reading this book and seeing any wild hope that the posse actually had something, evaporate!

  47. avatar
    RanTalbott August 19, 2014 at 10:04 pm #

    Volin had to be at least somewhat aware of this, since he’s at least somewhat an “insider”.

    I think what would really shock him would be the New Times’ revelation that much of what he put into his “Son of Shurf’s Kit” DVDs was BS provided by Montgomery. If he already had a bunch made in anticipation of the March “Big Reveal”, he’s pretty seriously screwed financially.

  48. avatar
    Curious George August 20, 2014 at 10:38 am #

    Carl Gallups and Mike Volin should review Sand’s book. It would hopefully show them that they are now part of the sham investigation. The nuggets of gold in Sand’s book are priceless.

  49. avatar
    Benji Franklin August 20, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    Curious George: Carl Gallups and Mike Volin should review Sand’s book. It would hopefully show them that they are now part of the sham investigation.

    Gallups preys (sic(sick(sic))) on superstitious followers in his regular job, so a sham investigation can’t hide from him in the end, and he may even turn on the Zullo fiasco if it gets too well-documented or turns out to be provably criminal. Gallups needs to preserve the income earning potential of his other public personas.

    But Mike Volin, who really has been made the biggest public fool of all by Zullo, will simply disappear when Zullo gets busted by the fullness of time and tries to fake a summation with no court worthy or investigation-provoking evidence of anything left on the table. The “shattering” promises went on for too long.

    By then, it will have become obvious that Zullo never got close to a real investigation, and was totally bamboozled by another con-man.

    Volin and Zullo are also “moral cowards” and they will never admit that they are wrong about Obama no matter how completely they are proven wrong.

    It’s just fun to imagine them both twisting despairingly in the wind on separate strings, especially Volin, who is probably just smart enough to finally see, with this latest insight into the CCP, that he’s been suckered into eagerly acting as Zullo’s character-vouching press agent and will now be remembered as having been the duped author, publisher, and megaphone for endless Obama-bashing on-line and in-person disinformational poop-fests.

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    Curious George August 20, 2014 at 8:38 pm #

    Benji F,

    Right on target!

  51. avatar
    The Magic M August 21, 2014 at 6:46 am #

    RanTalbott: the New Times’ revelation that much of what he put into his “Son of Shurf’s Kit” DVDs was BS provided by Montgomery

    Never underestimate the ability of grifters to adapt to changed circumstances. They will, at some point, admit Montgomery tried to mislead them (not that he succeeded) and that they are investigating who Montgomery was working for, so any day now they will uncover the omniverse-shattering evidence which is “much bigger than the BC” and “still bigger than the universe-shattering stuff” so be patient, birfers, they will release it in February when Congress starts impeachifying the usurper, we promise, cross our hearts and hope to grift. (Note we didn’t say February of *next* year, though, just to keep in mind in case you’ll still be waiting 6 months from now.)