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“I’m not a cop”

That’s what one Sun City posse member says in this video clip from “The Joe Show.” One of the most important jobs of the Sun City Posse is to check on peoples’ houses while they are on vacation.

I check the front door to make sure it’s locked. I rig the doorbell to make sure nobody’s home. I try the garage doors. If I find anything wrong, if I find a door open, if I find a broken window, anything that looks suspicious, I’m out of there. I’m not a cop.

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35 Responses to “I’m not a cop”

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    JPotter October 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

    I trust he files a report while he is running for his life?

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    alg October 14, 2014 at 6:33 pm #

    “I’m not a cop.”

    Would it be that Michael Zullo would be so refreshingly honest and unpretentious?!?

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    Hektor October 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm #

    Well that’s just because Sheriff Joe hasn’t delegated his official power to that Sun City Posse member like he has with Omega Supreme Commander Zullo. /birther

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    john October 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm #

    He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun and is not going to go in that type of danger without one. Of course one has to say, this guy wears policeman’s uniform, displays an officer’s badge and drives a Sheriff’s car….but he’s not a cop…Okay?

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    Curious George October 15, 2014 at 12:18 am #

    john
    October 14, 2014
    “He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun and is not going to go in that type of danger without one. Of course one has to say, this guy wears policeman’s uniform, displays an officer’s badge and drives a Sheriff’s car….but he’s not a cop…Okay?”

    John, he’s not a cop whether he has a gun or not. In other words, he’s not a sworn deputy sheriff with the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. Guess what John, many security officers wear uniforms and guns too, but they aren’t cops. Back to the basement Johnny.

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    CarlOrcas October 15, 2014 at 12:30 am #

    john:
    He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun and is not going to go in that type of danger without one.Of course one has to say, this guy wears policeman’s uniform, displays an officer’s badge and drives a Sheriff’s car….but he’s not a cop…Okay?

    Possession of a weapon doesn’t confer police powers in Arizona. Only AZPOST can do that and it doesn’t certify posse members. But you knew that.

    Out of curiosity…..do you think it is a good idea for a person who is not a certified peace officer to appear in the regalia of a peace officer – uniform, badge, car, etc?

    And….BTW….some posse members are allowed to carry sidearms so it is virtually impossible to tell them from a certified deputy.

    Not smart. Right?

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    Bob October 15, 2014 at 1:11 am #

    It’s legal to carry guns openly or concealed in Arizona so I would imagine that these pretend police officers would have guns and carry them around all time in the hope of living out their fantasy.

    And anything that looks suspicious, I’m out of there. I’m not a cop.

    Do they report their findings to a real police officer or what?

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    Rickey October 15, 2014 at 1:37 am #

    john:
    He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun and is not going to go in that type of danger without one.Of course one has to say, this guy wears policeman’s uniform, displays an officer’s badge and drives a Sheriff’s car….but he’s not a cop…Okay?

    I have my Navy uniform with ribbons and medals hanging in my closet. If I put on the uniform and its accoutrements, does that make me a sailor again?

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    Lupin October 15, 2014 at 3:12 am #

    Would I be incorrect in assuming that what distinguishes a real policeman from a wannabe impersonator is the badge, not the gun?

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    The Magic M (not logged in) October 15, 2014 at 4:49 am #

    I rig the doorbell

    Freudian slip on your part, Doc, or was that in the original quote? 😉

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 15, 2014 at 9:39 am #

    john:
    He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun…

    Just when I think John has said the most conceivably stupid thing ever, and could never possibly top himself…
    John, if you ever find yourself being mugged by a guy at gunpoint. Remember this one important The-world-according-to-John fact: It’s okay, he’s a cop!

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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater October 15, 2014 at 9:45 am #

    So according to John logic if Mr. not a cop saw intruders in the house carrying guns this automatically would confer police powers on them.

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    Jim October 15, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    john: He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun and is not going to go in that type of danger without one. Of course one has to say, this guy wears policeman’s uniform, displays an officer’s badge and drives a Sheriff’s car….but he’s not a cop…Okay?

    OK John, but all those sheriffs who do wear guns, have badges and are duly sworn in as law enforcement officers, laughed and mocked Zullo’s so-called “evidence” when he presented it to the Sheriff’s conference…they recognize that Zullo isn’t law enforcement. When will you? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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    CarlOrcas October 15, 2014 at 11:34 am #

    Lupin:
    Would I be incorrect in assuming that what distinguishes a real policeman from a wannabe impersonator is the badge, not the gun?

    Actually the badges for posse members are almost indistinguishable from regular deputies – real small letters.

    The difference is that one is certified by the state and the other isn’t. That is usually made clear on their ID card which is often called a commission card.

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    CarlOrcas October 15, 2014 at 11:37 am #

    Bob: It’s legal to carry guns openly or concealed in Arizona so I would imagine that these pretend police officers would have guns and carry them around all time in the hope of living out their fantasy.

    Posse members are specifically prohibited from carrying a weapon unless they have taken classes and qualified on the range.

    Bob: Do they report their findings to a real police officer or what?

    Yes.

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    Bonsall Obot October 15, 2014 at 1:21 pm #

    It’s common cargo-cult thinking to believe that wearing the accoutrements of a profession endows one with the powers and abilities of actual members of that profession.

    Protip, john: that fella on the corner wearing a stethoscope, white coat and rubber gloves who offers free prostate exams? Probably not a doctor. But proceed as you wish, depending on your mood.

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    BugZptr October 15, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

    Rickey: I have my Navy uniform with ribbons and medals hanging in my closet. If I put on the uniform and its accoutrements, does that make me a sailor again?

    Well that really depends on if your name is Walter Fitzpatrick.

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 15, 2014 at 2:27 pm #

    Bonsall Obot: It’s common cargo-cult thinking to believe that wearing the accoutrements of a profession endows one with the powers and abilities of actual members of that profession.

    Exactly. If I were to dress up as a clown, it wouldn’t make me a soulless inhuman monster. I’d just look the part.

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 15, 2014 at 5:10 pm #

    Reminds me of that verse from The Streets of Laredo that goes:

    “I see by your outfit, that you are a cowboy.”
    These words he did say as I slowly walked by.
    “Come sit down beside me and hear my sad story,
    For I’m shot in the chest, and today I must die.”

    but more of the comedy version from the Smothers Brothers, that goes something in the line of:

    “I see by your outfit, that you are a cowboy.
    You see by my outfit that I am one too.
    We see by our outfits that we are both cowboys
    If you get an outfit, you can be a cowboy too.”

    http://youtu.be/WeGzPohkyew?t=3m17s

    john: He’s not a cop because he doesn’t have gun

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    y_p_w October 15, 2014 at 5:22 pm #

    Bonsall Obot:
    It’s common cargo-cult thinking to believe that wearing the accoutrements of a profession endows one with the powers and abilities of actual members of that profession.

    I put on striped overalls, a striped hat, a red bandana, and a work shirt on my kid when we took a ride on a train. One guy said that my kid could probably operate the train. Or it could have been a joke.

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    Curious George October 15, 2014 at 5:30 pm #

    John,
    “….but he’s not a cop…..Okay?”

    John, that’s right, a posse member is not a cop. If you listen to the Commander in the video, he talks about creating the illusion of a large police presence. Basically the posse is a ruse to fool the public. They look like cops but they aren’t cops. They serve as decoys to fool the bad guys. Posses are good as long as they follow the law and do not pretend to be something that they aren’t.

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    Bonsall Obot October 15, 2014 at 8:57 pm #

    y_p_w:One guy said that my kid could probably operate the train.

    You’ve actually seen our john? Is he everything I imagined?

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    bovril October 15, 2014 at 10:13 pm #

    Oh frabulous day…….

    Just wandered over for my ritual scab pick at Gerbil Report to see the latest….. Pete Santilli basically calls out Colin, Our Pie Hole and Li’l Mikey

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/10/explosive-pete-santili-challenges.html

    He issues an open challenge to the Tepid Trio to turn up at the fence of the White House and Santilli wild leap the fence, rush the WH and deliver the ‘Shurrifses Package’, all streamed live etc.

    Violin is on the call and it really doesn’t go very well…… much Birfing and errrrrr, wibble, Oh and Santilli seems to think the Marine Corps will all be with him cheering along as he does his run……

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 15, 2014 at 10:49 pm #

    Oh, I can’t imagine Falcon and friends taking kindly to their lord and savior, Mike Zullo, being told to put up or shut up.

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    Curious George October 15, 2014 at 11:17 pm #

    Bovril
    “Pete Santilli basically calls out Colin, Our Pie Hole and Li’l Mikey.”

    I like the comment about obstruction. What a riot. 🙂

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG October 15, 2014 at 11:45 pm #

    I checked the article out. Did I read that right? Did Gerbil Report actually cite lack of jurisdiction? The very thing we’ve been telling them, for years, is one of the biggest flaws in their whole “A&Z will save the day!” routine?

    Talk about closing the barn after the cows have escaped.

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    Curious George October 15, 2014 at 11:54 pm #

    Andrew Vrba PmG

    Andrew Vrba, PmG
    October 15, 2014
    “I checked the article out. Did I read that right? Did Gerbil Report actually cite lack of jurisdiction? The very thing we’ve been telling them, for years, is one of the biggest flaws in their whole “A&Z will save the day!” routine?”

    The county prosecuting attorney said as much. What an amazing bunch.

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    RanTalbott October 16, 2014 at 12:14 am #

    Rickey: If I put on the uniform and its accoutrements, does that make me a sailor again?

    Depends on which bar you wear it in…

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    RanTalbott October 16, 2014 at 12:18 am #

    CarlOrcas: Posse members are specifically prohibited from carrying a weapon unless they have taken classes and qualified on the range.

    OMG: are you saying that Arpaio is abridging their $DEITY-given Second Amendment rights?

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    CarlOrcas October 16, 2014 at 12:49 am #

    RanTalbott: OMG: are you saying that Arpaio is abridging their $DEITY-given Second Amendment rights?

    Well………..they do get to sit in the tank whenever they want…..or at least they did before Obama took it back.

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    RanTalbott October 16, 2014 at 4:27 pm #

    Lupin: Would I be incorrect in assuming that what distinguishes a real policeman from a wannabe impersonator is the badge, not the gun?

    To be picky, it’s being the person who was vetted, trained, and sworn in, of which process the badge is the visible symbol.

    But it’s definitely not the gun: I’ve got a gun, but I have no police authority.

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    Curious George October 16, 2014 at 4:44 pm #

    Ran Talbott

    “To be picky, it’s being the person who was vetted, trained, and sworn in, of which process the badge is the visible symbol.”

    And I’ll bet MZ’s posse badge is not the same as a deputy sheriff’s badge for the reasons you wrote above.

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    CarlOrcas October 16, 2014 at 10:59 pm #

    RanTalbott: To be picky, it’s being the person who was vetted, trained, and sworn in, of which process the badge is the visible symbol.

    But it’s definitely not the gun: I’ve got a gun, but I have no police authority.

    You can also buy a badge…..a real badge….on the internet. Go figure.

    The real process is for a person to be accepted for potential employment by a police agency. Then they must complete an authorized police academy and then they can receive their certificate (some places call it a commission) and only then do they have police powers.

    You cannot, for instance, attend a police academy (many are run by community colleges) and have police powers because you successfully complete the course of study.

    It takes all the parts coming together for it to work.

    The gun and the badge only help when you’re on the street.

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    Curious George October 17, 2014 at 9:33 am #

    CarlOrcas

    “It takes all the parts coming together for it to work.”

    And it doesn’t come together for volunteer posse members in Maricopa County.

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    CarlOrcas October 17, 2014 at 9:40 am #

    Curious George:
    CarlOrcas

    “It takes all the parts coming together for it to work.”

    And it doesn’t come together for volunteer posse members in Maricopa County.

    Correct!