In a previous article, I gave a short excerpt from the Carl Gallups Freedom Friday broadcast from November 22, 2013, where Carl announced the “universe shattering” new direction of the Cold Case Posse investigation. After Carl spoke, Mike Zullo called in to the show.
I think that it is interesting to listen to this broadcast, knowing what we know now from Arpaio’s testimony last week about the Seattle investigation into information from Dennis Montgomery about the CIA, the Justice Department and the federal courts. Zullo talks about being away from home for almost a month at an undisclosed location, which we now know was Seattle. I felt a great sense of irony in several places.
Making transcripts is a labor-intensive task for me, but I think it’s worth the effort in this case. The 9:49 minute audio file is on YouTube, and my transcript follows. One of the items discussed is the Xerox 7655 evidence, which Zullo rebuts at some length, his best argument being that those who present it are “meatballs,” hence the title of this article.
Gallups: Mike Zullo, you there?
Zullo: Carl, how are you?
Gallups: I’m, I’m doing great. Listen, In this particular segment, we only have about one minute literally, so I’m gonna hush and let you talk, and then we’ll hold you over if you want more time. Go ahead.
Zullo: Well, I just wanted to call … I was listening to your radio show, and I just wanted everybody to know that you did talk to me, been in contact. This is moving in a direction that was not anticipated by us, and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. It is now deeply involved in other aspects of this and we’re working closely together as one team and one unit moving forward on this. I can’t give you any specific details. I can tell you this, though, the whole notion of a Xerox 7655 copier is out the window.
Zullo: That’s nothing more than a red herring rabbit trail going nowhere and we will annihilate that when that time comes.
Gallups: Fantastic. Mike, can you stay on for another 4 or 5 minutes after the break, or do you need to go?
Zullo: No, I can do that. I can do that.
Gallups: I will put you on hold because you have tantalized everybody….
Well there’s Mike Zullo, you just heard him backing my play, so to speak. In other words, what I told you is true. It’s accurate. Mike Zullo would be an idiot to call in here and say that if it wasn’t. I would be an idiot. So folks, we’re just trying to help you understand that this is huge. Be patient, be prayerful. Okay? I mean, I mean, the evidence is mounting up. It’s overwhelming and it’s not just about the birth
All right Carl Gallups back with you live on this edition of Freedom Friday. So glad that you’re with us. My guest this afternoon, surprise guest, Mike Zullo, Mike Zullo with the Cold Case Posse, lead investigator. Sheriff Arpaio works with him of course. Mike, you still there?
Zullo: Yes I am, Carl.
Gallups: Thank you so much for hanging on during the break because you called up in the middle of the show and tantalized everyone. But listen, I do appreciate your getting my back on that because, you know, we are having to be very general and bit nebulous right now because this thing has gone so much deeper and darker than even you and I ever dreamed, but the evidence is mounting, getting hard copy documents of mountains of evidence that takes this thing in a whole different direction that is just earth shattering, history making, and potentially. And it all started because of your deep investigation into the birth certificate debacle. But Mike, I wanna ask you something. Now several months ago the birth certificate investigation took a turn because the Obots were claiming they had a Xerox machine that was reproducing the anomalies and therefore your entire investigation should just be flushed down the toilet and you and I both smelled a rat. I’m gonna let you talk about it, both smelled a rat. I mean that was awfully convenient 5 years later at just the right time they supposedly had discovered the machine that did the thing. But you’ve got something to say about that. Go ahead.
Zullo: Well, you know, that’s a nice fairy tale that they’re outlaying. You know, you’ve got a couple meatballs on the other side that keep throwing that garbage out and it’s just another tactic to just throw people another bone to gnaw on, and throw doubt into this equation and make everybody think that these three guys have the answers to one of the biggest dilemmas to face the presidency in the nation’s history. When the fact is that they don’t. They don’t know what we know. They don’t know what we have. And I’m gonna tell you, and I’m telling you now, just like I have in the past, that is a fallacy what they are telling you about this copy machine. It does not remedy the situation.
Zullo: Far from remedying the situation. In fact, that whole little ploy is more nefarious than you could imagine.
Gallups: I, I, I know and, and listen, you said that they don’t know what we know, they don’t know what we have, and that’s what’s killing ’em. And that’s, that’s why I think, now you may not want to address this because you’re dealing at it from the criminal angle. I’m dealing with it from the media angle, but in my opinion that’s why they threw up that whole smoke screen. I think they’re trying to smoke you out and to smoke that they think that I know a lot so they’re trying to smoke me out, trying to smoke you out and for what we know and where we would go with this. But as you’ve just said, you guys have proven, I’m gonna use the term 1000% that the Xerox machine just doesn’t cut it, and the document is a fraud. Right?
Zullo: Right, and you know to answer that point, Carl, one of the people in that group is the same individual who tried to lodge a phony complaint against me for [defaming them?] on the telephone, the conversation you heard.
Zullo: There is where these guys are going. I pay no mind to them. They are completely irrelevant as you have said in the past. They are nothing more than a distraction.
Zullo: They are a waste of time and energy. And all this nonsense they’re writing down about this Xerox machine. They’re wasting a lot of trees and a lot of ink.
Gallups: Especially knowing what you now know. Especially the direction this investigation has turned. I kind of, I know it’s all connected to the birth certificate, but now the information that’s piling in has turned kind of away from that, and it’s almost like people knew that that was out there and they were trying desperately to keep you away from it and keep you busy on the birth certificate. And kaboom. You, you know, your, your crack investigation skills, and Arpaio, and everybody that’s around you has opened this thing up and it’s wide open now, right?
Zullo: It is and you know like I said, I can’t go into what this is, but I can tell you that the magnitude is so great that Sheriff Arpaio [inaudible] resources from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Zullo: One, he is fully invested in this and I don’t think I’ve been home more than two days all this month.
Gallups: I know. I know. You went out for a 3-hour meeting and you’ve been there a month. [chuckle]
Zullo: [chuckle] That’s about. That’s exactly what it’s been.
Gallups: I know. That’s what I opened my show with. I told them that. He went out there for a 3-hour meeting and he’s been there a month now. And you’ve been several places, and we’re not going to give away where you are or where you’ve been. But this think has just blown into a monumental thing. So Mike, It’s a special treat for me to have you on. Number one, I always enjoy you on and number 2, a surprise; I had no idea you were even listening or even able to listen and much less that you would call in. But thank for confirming what I’m trying to tell my radio audience. And listen, 98% of my audience knows and trusts me, but you know, we’ve go those, and we’ve got the Obots listening, and we’ve got the detractors listening, and they’re always ready to say, “well Gallups, you’re just overdramatizing this and you’re trying to soup it up and sensationalize it so you’ll get more listeners.” I don’t give a rip about listeners, folks. I don’t do this for a living. I do this because I’m a patriot and I love what I do. But I’m not gonna lie to you or overdramatize something on purpose, but Mike Zullo, you called to say that what I’m telling them, as nebulous and around the edges as it is right now, what I’m telling them is absolute truth. Correct?
Zullo: It is absolute truth and I’m gonna add one other thing, Carl. You know these guys out there that are throwing up these smoke screens. They’re not gonna, they’re not gonna defeat the trained investigators of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Gallups: Yeah, that’s right.
Zullo: They’re not gonna pull the wool over their eyes. They can go throw that stuff out there in the public arena all they want. It’s not gonna cut it with them.
Gallups: Yeah. I agree. And I, I think they’re being awfully, awfully foolish. By the time all the smoke settles and all this stuff comes out people will know that this is what you’re involve in. Let me just ask you this. You do perceive of the time and the day, the day coming when you will be able to come forward, either on Freedom Friday or PPSimmons, or on some, probably on Fox News, but you’ll be able to come forward and say “this is what we’ve been talking about. Here it is.” You perceive that that day will come?
Zullo: I think that day, and I pray that day will come, and I do believe that it’s going to come and I am going to tell you, and you could tape this show and play it in the future, that when this information is finally exposed to the public it will be universe shattering.
Gallups: Yeah. Yeah.
Zullo: This is beyond the pall of anything you could imagine.
Gallups: Well, the little bit that I know completely rocked my world. And you’ve been telling me here lately that now there’s more, that this, that, that puts that on steroids, so I, I, I’m anxiously looking forward to the day you can come out with it all. I am.
Zullo: And now you know, Carl, it wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for Sheriff Arpaio and his dedication.
Zullo: To the issue. Because the man knows in his gut something’s wrong.
Gallups: Yeah. Yeah.
Zullo: Because of Sheriff Arpaio this [is even] happening.
Gallups: That’s absolutely amazing, Mike. Well listen, we’ve gotta go. Is there anything else you wanna share before I —
Zullo: No, I really. The less I say now the better.
Gallups: No, you’re right. [laughing] You’re right. We’ve, we’ve both had to [stutter] several times I’ve had to pause and bite my tongue just a little bit to make sure I used the exact correct words, because we don’t wanna give the Obots, any, any inkling of where you’re going with this. Thank you for backing my play. Thank you for backing my integrity today. God bless you.
Zullo: God bless you too, Carl. You have a great day.
Zullo: You as well, Mike. Well, folks that was uh, that was uh Mike Zullo and you heard it right from him.