In a previous article, I gave a short excerpt from the Carl Gallups Freedom Friday broadcast from November 22, 2013, where Carl announced the “universe shattering” new direction of the Cold Case Posse investigation. After Carl spoke, Mike Zullo called in to the show.
I think that it is interesting to listen to this broadcast, knowing what we know now from Arpaio’s testimony last week about the Seattle investigation into information from Dennis Montgomery about the CIA, the Justice Department and the federal courts. Zullo talks about being away from home for almost a month at an undisclosed location, which we now know was Seattle. I felt a great sense of irony in several places.
Making transcripts is a labor-intensive task for me, but I think it’s worth the effort in this case. The 9:49 minute audio file is on YouTube, and my transcript follows. One of the items discussed is the Xerox 7655 evidence, which Zullo rebuts at some length, his best argument being that those who present it are “meatballs,” hence the title of this article.
Gallups: Mike Zullo, you there?
Zullo: Carl, how are you?
Gallups: I’m, I’m doing great. Listen, In this particular segment, we only have about one minute literally, so I’m gonna hush and let you talk, and then we’ll hold you over if you want more time. Go ahead.
Zullo: Well, I just wanted to call … I was listening to your radio show, and I just wanted everybody to know that you did talk to me, been in contact. This is moving in a direction that was not anticipated by us, and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. It is now deeply involved in other aspects of this and we’re working closely together as one team and one unit moving forward on this. I can’t give you any specific details. I can tell you this, though, the whole notion of a Xerox 7655 copier is out the window.
Gallups: Yeah.
Zullo: That’s nothing more than a red herring rabbit trail going nowhere and we will annihilate that when that time comes.
Gallups: Fantastic. Mike, can you stay on for another 4 or 5 minutes after the break, or do you need to go?
Zullo: No, I can do that. I can do that.
Gallups: I will put you on hold because you have tantalized everybody….
Well there’s Mike Zullo, you just heard him backing my play, so to speak. In other words, what I told you is true. It’s accurate. Mike Zullo would be an idiot to call in here and say that if it wasn’t. I would be an idiot. So folks, we’re just trying to help you understand that this is huge. Be patient, be prayerful. Okay? I mean, I mean, the evidence is mounting up. It’s overwhelming and it’s not just about the birth
[break]
All right Carl Gallups back with you live on this edition of Freedom Friday. So glad that you’re with us. My guest this afternoon, surprise guest, Mike Zullo, Mike Zullo with the Cold Case Posse, lead investigator. Sheriff Arpaio works with him of course. Mike, you still there?
Zullo: Yes I am, Carl.
Gallups: Thank you so much for hanging on during the break because you called up in the middle of the show and tantalized everyone. But listen, I do appreciate your getting my back on that because, you know, we are having to be very general and bit nebulous right now because this thing has gone so much deeper and darker than even you and I ever dreamed, but the evidence is mounting, getting hard copy documents of mountains of evidence that takes this thing in a whole different direction that is just earth shattering, history making, and potentially. And it all started because of your deep investigation into the birth certificate debacle. But Mike, I wanna ask you something. Now several months ago the birth certificate investigation took a turn because the Obots were claiming they had a Xerox machine that was reproducing the anomalies and therefore your entire investigation should just be flushed down the toilet and you and I both smelled a rat. I’m gonna let you talk about it, both smelled a rat. I mean that was awfully convenient 5 years later at just the right time they supposedly had discovered the machine that did the thing. But you’ve got something to say about that. Go ahead.
Zullo: Well, you know, that’s a nice fairy tale that they’re outlaying. You know, you’ve got a couple meatballs on the other side that keep throwing that garbage out and it’s just another tactic to just throw people another bone to gnaw on, and throw doubt into this equation and make everybody think that these three guys have the answers to one of the biggest dilemmas to face the presidency in the nation’s history. When the fact is that they don’t. They don’t know what we know. They don’t know what we have. And I’m gonna tell you, and I’m telling you now, just like I have in the past, that is a fallacy what they are telling you about this copy machine. It does not remedy the situation.
Gallups: Right.
Zullo: Far from remedying the situation. In fact, that whole little ploy is more nefarious than you could imagine.
Gallups: I, I, I know and, and listen, you said that they don’t know what we know, they don’t know what we have, and that’s what’s killing ’em. And that’s, that’s why I think, now you may not want to address this because you’re dealing at it from the criminal angle. I’m dealing with it from the media angle, but in my opinion that’s why they threw up that whole smoke screen. I think they’re trying to smoke you out and to smoke that they think that I know a lot so they’re trying to smoke me out, trying to smoke you out and for what we know and where we would go with this. But as you’ve just said, you guys have proven, I’m gonna use the term 1000% that the Xerox machine just doesn’t cut it, and the document is a fraud. Right?
Zullo: Right, and you know to answer that point, Carl, one of the people in that group is the same individual who tried to lodge a phony complaint against me for [defaming them?] on the telephone, the conversation you heard.
Gallups: Right.
Zullo: There is where these guys are going. I pay no mind to them. They are completely irrelevant as you have said in the past. They are nothing more than a distraction.
Gallups: Right.
Zullo: They are a waste of time and energy. And all this nonsense they’re writing down about this Xerox machine. They’re wasting a lot of trees and a lot of ink.
Gallups: Especially knowing what you now know. Especially the direction this investigation has turned. I kind of, I know it’s all connected to the birth certificate, but now the information that’s piling in has turned kind of away from that, and it’s almost like people knew that that was out there and they were trying desperately to keep you away from it and keep you busy on the birth certificate. And kaboom. You, you know, your, your crack investigation skills, and Arpaio, and everybody that’s around you has opened this thing up and it’s wide open now, right?
Zullo: It is and you know like I said, I can’t go into what this is, but I can tell you that the magnitude is so great that Sheriff Arpaio [inaudible] resources from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Gallups: Wow!
Zullo: One, he is fully invested in this and I don’t think I’ve been home more than two days all this month.
Gallups: I know. I know. You went out for a 3-hour meeting and you’ve been there a month. [chuckle]
Zullo: [chuckle] That’s about. That’s exactly what it’s been.
Gallups: I know. That’s what I opened my show with. I told them that. He went out there for a 3-hour meeting and he’s been there a month now. And you’ve been several places, and we’re not going to give away where you are or where you’ve been. But this think has just blown into a monumental thing. So Mike, It’s a special treat for me to have you on. Number one, I always enjoy you on and number 2, a surprise; I had no idea you were even listening or even able to listen and much less that you would call in. But thank for confirming what I’m trying to tell my radio audience. And listen, 98% of my audience knows and trusts me, but you know, we’ve go those, and we’ve got the Obots listening, and we’ve got the detractors listening, and they’re always ready to say, “well Gallups, you’re just overdramatizing this and you’re trying to soup it up and sensationalize it so you’ll get more listeners.” I don’t give a rip about listeners, folks. I don’t do this for a living. I do this because I’m a patriot and I love what I do. But I’m not gonna lie to you or overdramatize something on purpose, but Mike Zullo, you called to say that what I’m telling them, as nebulous and around the edges as it is right now, what I’m telling them is absolute truth. Correct?
Zullo: It is absolute truth and I’m gonna add one other thing, Carl. You know these guys out there that are throwing up these smoke screens. They’re not gonna, they’re not gonna defeat the trained investigators of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Gallups: Yeah, that’s right.
Zullo: They’re not gonna pull the wool over their eyes. They can go throw that stuff out there in the public arena all they want. It’s not gonna cut it with them.
Gallups: Yeah. I agree. And I, I think they’re being awfully, awfully foolish. By the time all the smoke settles and all this stuff comes out people will know that this is what you’re involve in. Let me just ask you this. You do perceive of the time and the day, the day coming when you will be able to come forward, either on Freedom Friday or PPSimmons, or on some, probably on Fox News, but you’ll be able to come forward and say “this is what we’ve been talking about. Here it is.” You perceive that that day will come?
Zullo: I think that day, and I pray that day will come, and I do believe that it’s going to come and I am going to tell you, and you could tape this show and play it in the future, that when this information is finally exposed to the public it will be universe shattering.
Gallups: Yeah. Yeah.
Zullo: This is beyond the pall of anything you could imagine.
Gallups: Well, the little bit that I know completely rocked my world. And you’ve been telling me here lately that now there’s more, that this, that, that puts that on steroids, so I, I, I’m anxiously looking forward to the day you can come out with it all. I am.
Zullo: And now you know, Carl, it wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for Sheriff Arpaio and his dedication.
Gallups: Yeah.
Zullo: To the issue. Because the man knows in his gut something’s wrong.
Gallups: Yeah. Yeah.
Zullo: Because of Sheriff Arpaio this [is even] happening.
Gallups: That’s absolutely amazing, Mike. Well listen, we’ve gotta go. Is there anything else you wanna share before I —
Zullo: No, I really. The less I say now the better.
Gallups: No, you’re right. [laughing] You’re right. We’ve, we’ve both had to [stutter] several times I’ve had to pause and bite my tongue just a little bit to make sure I used the exact correct words, because we don’t wanna give the Obots, any, any inkling of where you’re going with this. Thank you for backing my play. Thank you for backing my integrity today. God bless you.
Zullo: God bless you too, Carl. You have a great day.
Zullo: You as well, Mike. Well, folks that was uh, that was uh Mike Zullo and you heard it right from him.
Naturally Zullo offered nothing but a glorified “Nuh uh! They’re wrong, cuz I say so!” as a rebuttal to the CCP-shattering Xerox test.
You can’t pull the wool over any one’s eyes when their head is up their ass.
That’s hilarious since everything NBC and I have written has been on the Internet. Not one tree was wasted to make Zullo look like an idiot.
I had the same thought when I was reading this article. But then again they do not know the difference between a document and a .pdf so we shouldn’t be surprised.
I nominate that for the quote of the day.
Okay, we know a couple of things from this: Zullups doesn’t know it’s a bifurcated idiot; and Zullo has some unquantified skill at investigating cracks.
Zullo: That’s nothing more than a red herring rabbit trail going nowhere and we will annihilate that when that time comes.
The time has come, Mike. Let’s see some annihilation.
Wow, that thing’s a gold mine. Okay, we also know they’re not very good with history, to call this utter insignificance, rapidly diminishing its way to a vanishing point “one of the biggest dilemmas to face the presidency in the nation’s history.”
Zullo: I think that day, and I pray that day will come…
Logical extrapolation:
1) God did not listen to Zullo’s prayers.
2) Therefore God is an Obot.
One should inform the Birfoons that God Him/Her/Itself is against them.
As I said, if God himself came down from the heavens to say Obama is eligible, birthers would claim he’s lying because he’s afraid to lose followers.
And then the Cold Case Posse “Investigation” went…wait for it…”dark.”
Thanks doc for putting the elbow grease in to compose that transcript. I listened to that program when it aired, but it’s now even more funny to read some 18 months later.
In a later interview Zullo and Gallups said that it was the Xerox info that led to the second investigation and the universe shattering info. I wonder how that fits in with Montgomery? Did Corsi ask Montgmery to look into the Xerox and then introduct him to Zullo?
The type of scam Monty runs requires some sort of seed. Maybe he was the source of the mysterious “NSA document” about using the Xerox to (disguise/create ?) forgeries. It wouldn’t be all that hard to create an official-looking document, and then go up to Zullo and say, “Hey, I heard about your investigation. I used to consult with the CIA, and I found this document in my proprietary database that bears directly on your investigation into Obama. But, wait, there’s more!…”
This may be one of the more interesting questions to be answered as more information about the Montgomery/Arpaio connection is made available. How did these two get connected in the first place? Did Zullo or Corso play any role in facilitating the relationship? And why, if it’s completely unrelated to the birth certificate “investigation,” did Arpaio send Zullo to Seattle to work on this? Finally, if this has nothing to do with the birth certificate or digging up or manufacturing dirt on Judge Snow, why on earth would the MSCO get involved in this thing in the first place?
What’s truly curious is that any competent Sheriff’s Office would require a background check before hiring any criminal investigator to do anything. That’s standard practice – even if you’re hiring a plumber to fix a toilet in the County jail. Montgomery’s questionable background would easily have disqualified him from contracting with any reputable County Sheriff’s Office in the country.
i think Zullo was sent to “work” with Montgomery so that Arpaio could funnel a few bucks his way.
Zullo’s gullibility must have added a bit of entertainment for Montgomery. He probably gave Zullo a super-duper classified decoder ring.
Some years back I was working with this old instrument tech– he was more or less an electrician who’d been hired as a tech– in Salt Lake City who’d got a DUI and had to go to jail for a while over it. Now he knew the jailer, and the jailer knew he was a sparky; and when they had some problem with the electric lock mechanisms on some of the doors in the jail, the jailer went and fetched Ira’s tool pouch and set Ira to fixing it. Everything was going just fine until the sheriff showed up, and there was this prisoner with a bag of tools working on the door locks. Unsupervised, even. That’s when the jailer started learning about “standard practice” and all that.
i disagree that the obots are wasting time and energy. i think you antibirthers truly believe in what you do, that it gives you pleasure/satisfaction to pursue your cause.
me too.
we agree to disagree that’s all. we can spend our time and energy as we please.
Our clueless “investigators” have done nothing to rebut the irrefutable Xerox findings. What they have done is moved the goalposts and claim that they know something that makes the findings irrelevant.
Of course they have nothing… But it’s the simplest way of dealing with facts they cannot rebut.
Not impressed.
Just hard work, due diligence and a bit of luck… And now that their claims about the PDF have been fully destroyed, they claim that they have something new, bigger, faster…
Such scammers…
According to Lawrence Sellin (on the Peter Boyles ) Arpaio had decided in the fall of 2013 to completely shut the birth certificate investigation down. Zullo literally had nothing else to do.
Apario met with Tim Blixeth, Montgomery’s business partner and Mike Flynn, Montgomery’s former attorney in 2012. Corsi had set up the meeting. More than likely Blixith was the person who suggested Montgomery’s services might be of use to the CCP.
Yeah, and then add, “But you can’t say where you got this SEKRET universe-shattering information cause, a’course, just between us Obama-haters, it’s illegal for me to access or share this with you, or for you to knowingly pass it on from this source (which it isn’t cause it’s a lie about Obama or his people, and there is no such data base that Monty has accessed, so there’s no crime anywhere here, but Rear-Unadmirable Zoo Low, wouldn’t guess that about something he’s paid a lot of money for) and that imaginary restriction becomes the “legal hurdle” excuse for revealing nothing.
Thinking they would be able to find real evidence of the “crime” Monty sold them on, they stalled on and on, since there was no evidence to find of a crime never committed. Now they probably, too late, realize that there is nothing there to release except the fact that they have been scammed by Monty. The scammers have probably been exquisitely scammed themselves. Perfect!
Carl Gallups,
“And kaboom. You, you know, your, your crack investigation skills, and Arpaio, and everybody that’s around you has opened this thing up and it’s wide open now, right? ”
Actually, Stephen Lemons and the Phoenix New Times “opened this thing up.” Zullo really said nothing and is sitting with nothing because of his “crack investigation skills.”
I wonder, will Gallups, as Zullo’s willing mouthpiece, get dragged into court because of the knowledge he’s privy to?
Gallups,
“And listen, 98% of my audience knows and trusts me, ”
Assuming his estimate is correct, that pretty well shows that 98% of his audience members are blooming idiots. Apparently only 2% of Gallup’s listeners have got his number. This shows how a majority of people can be wrong on a given issue.
I think that is very plausible. Arpaio paid Montgomery $10,000 a month. I’m sure Zullo wouldn’t take a month off work for free.
So, who are those 98 guys?
After I finished making my transcription and read it back, I felt as if I were reading one of your Gallups/Zullo spoofs. The real thing sounded almost as crazy as your send up of it, and you caught the sense of it perfectly.
Can I make that my signature block quote?? I especially love the idea that I can say, “Yoda said it….”
Smirk-be my guest
Thanks. I’ve dialed back on the spoofs precisely because it’s so hard to satirically recreate a more hyperbolic snake-oil salesman sheen than the one that’s so obviously already on the over-enunciating real-life Gall Oops!, the painfully un-police-like inexactitude in the quasi-official incompetent utterances of Zoo Low, and the muttering, low-cunning checker-playing political strategies of America’s biggest talking closed-mouth Sheriff, Our Pie Hole. Their combined excesses and shortcomings are too caricature-like in real life to need exaggeration.
I don’t know who here follows my little spoofs, but I placed the most recent one near the end of a receding thread of yours here entitled, ‘Arpaio:perjury?’ , so probably few noticed it.
Here’s an abbreviated ‘trailer’ of it with some of the better lines applying to their current crisis of confidence. Anybody caring to see the extended version can click on the link that follows it:
Karl Gall Oops!: “Listeners, after all the years of tortuous waiting, – Mike Zoo Low is live on the phone with us to confirm that – get ready Listeners – hold on to your hats – THERE’S A SMOKING GUN! Go ahead, Mike!”
Mike Zoo Low: ”Okay, Karl! Yeah, okay, – the smoking gun. We got it from Mount Gummery – he’s the real deal – secret agent type – but not cheap – no – but he’s got e-mails that – I gotta be careful what I say here – well, stop me right there…. the new developments are so big that I can’t breathe a word of them at this time….. In fact, I can’t now, or ever! It’s THAT big! That’s all I can say right now, except … everything we have previously announced about the investigations? – well, we TAKE IT ALL BACK!”
Karl Gall Oops!: “WOW! I mean…….. STARTING OVER! WOW! So we’re not going NOWHERE, ANYMORE! This really is big! ”…. And can we add, Mike, that all the investigations are going full-speed ahead, no matter what prison or crematorium Our Pie Hole ends up in?”
Mike Zoo Low: ”Yeah, those are matters of no concern, Karl! The investigations will continue at least until Our Pie Hole finds out what ‘Probable Cause’ means. “
The ‘Full-Monty’ version can be seen here.
What I want to know is why oh why hasn’t Zullo announced to his brainwashed followers that his big reveal, his universe shattering A/Z day is now kaput? Why did it take his blowhard boss to spill the beans under oath? And why oh why has Carl Gallups not been a better example to his followers and told them the truth? The court ride is only going to get more bumpy for the Klown Kar Posse occupants. Hold on boys, June 16th is just around the corner.
So Carl Gallups owns 98 dogs?
And let’s not forget Mike Volin and his hokey “Sheriff’s Kits” and it’s centerpiece, the Mike Zullo daffydavit. What’s the latest from Volin?
“I want to bring everyone involved in this down. I don’t plan on stopping. We have to keep moving. Ok let’s go. Contact me get a kit. We are making more progress each day.”
Really?
Apparently, Volin is unaware that the US District Court in Phoenix is knocking the stuffings out of the Zullo / Arpaio game plan. Better get up to speed Mr. Volin. It looks like you too are going to be left with egg on your face.
I recall Lemons mentioning that Zullo was paid $5,000, on the RCRadio interview.
Maybe Arpaio told Casey to hire Zullo as the “private investigator” to go after the Mrs. Judge Snow gossip.
Actually it reduces to 49 out of 50. 😉
I talked to Volin last week and we have a tentative agreement for me to be on his Blog Talk Radio show sometime this month.
jtmunkus
May 11, 2015
“I recall Lemons mentioning that Zullo was paid $5,000, on the RCRadio interview.
Maybe Arpaio told Casey to hire Zullo as the “private investigator” to go after the Mrs. Judge Snow gossip.”
Or, maybe the CI was told to hire the mighty Z with part of the RICO funds from the sheriff’s office? That would certainly explain how the mighty Z survived 24/7/365 as an unpaid volunteer, and it would conceal the money trail. Then there is also the vendor number that was assigned to the mighty Z. How does that fit into the picture?
Dr. Conspiracy
May 11, 2015
“I talked to Volin last week and we have a tentative agreement for me to be on his Blog Talk Radio show sometime this month.”
That would be an eye opening experience for Mr. Volin.
Hope the BR minions have their “Exploding Head” insurance paid up. 😀
The Meatball Hypothesis was not Ludlum’s best work.
But it was a very funny episode in The Big Bang Theory.
The one where it was revealed that Penny was born in Kenya as Penelope Hussein Soebarkah, Sheldon purchased an autograph of comic super villain Dr Zoolow, and Raj couldn’t find his birth certificate.
Mike Violin is in for a thrashing of facts. But you can be sure Mike Zoo Low won’t be there on the air with you. Or for that matter, making ANY public appearances with the Our Pie Hole Trial’s potential to catch him between admitting publicly, with the Birthers listening, that his “investigation” was a clownish sham pursuing imaginary ‘crimes’ and at the same time, testifying that he was hoping to pay Monty for what he (Zoo Low) knew in advance, was advertised by Monty, as illegally obtained (forbidden fruit) ‘evidence’.
Gall Oops! has a captive church audience to sustain him past a total Birther melt-down, but Zoo Low won’t be getting any cushy job offers as a reward for his laughable role in all this. With Zoo Low, in his title, ‘Lead Investigator’, ‘Lead’ refers to a heavy metal.
you Mean to say we’re no longer under criminal investigation by the cold case posse?
I have a feeling the interview with Doc C by Volin will consist of two questions:
Have you gotten a Sheriff’s kit?
Have you heard the Selma clip?
Doc could remind Volin that even Doug Vogt understood that Obama was speaking metaphorically. He probably wouldn’t understand this time either though.
That was really funny when Volin asked if Vogt agreed with his assessment of the clip and Vogt said no. He then explained it to Volin and Volin’s only solution was to play the clip again as if playing it enough times will change the meaning of it.