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This week I have been on a family vacation to Walt Disney World in Orlando. A persistent theme at the Magic Kingdom and particularly at EPCOT is progress. A rather optimistic future is portrayed. I was personally reminded of my trip to Disneyland in 1963, a time when the General Electric Company proclaimed that “Progress is our most important product.” That was the era of mankind’s first trip to the moon. We believed that science and technology held the solution to all of our problems one day.

I am still an optimistic person, although with a greater appreciation for the complexity of our problems; however, I do not see optimism among the birthers. Rather than looking to progress, birthers hearken to the “good old days” that really never existed. They want to smash the status quo and set up some fundamentalist constitutional theocracy. I really don’t know what to call what they want to do, and I’m not sure they know themselves. I think the success of Donald Trump is emblematic of their desire to have someone chase these spooks1 away and excuse them from entering the brave new world.

All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.

— Walt Disney

Sorry birthers. For good or ill, there is no exit at the left side of the auditorium if you want to leave before the show is over.


1 “Chase these spooks away” is a quote from the Firesign Theater comedy recording, “Don’t Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers” (1970). In the 1970’s the word “spook” was a derogatory term for an African American.

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37 Responses to Progress

  1. avatar
    helen April 29, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

    ””racist comments”

    GOOKS?

    Who would have thought it?

    LOL

  2. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2016 at 9:14 pm #

    Did anybody get the reference?

    helen:
    ””racist comments”

    GOOKS?

    Who would have thought it?

    LOL

  3. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 29, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

    helen:
    ””racist comments”

    GOOKS?

    Who would have thought it?

    LOL

    I see Trader jack is still pretending to be a woman.

  4. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater April 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: chase the gooks away

    A Dream Too Far?

  5. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 29, 2016 at 10:03 pm #

    Oopsies. The word was “spooks” rather than “gooks,” from the Firesign Theater’s “Don’t Crush that Dwarf” (which BTW uses the word “gooks” several times). The quote from Deacon Mouse is:

    Dear Friends, in these troubled times, when you can’t tell the A.C.s from the D.C.s, don’t we need someone who can turn on a little stopping power? Dear Friends, I mean a smokey glass? Don’t you know I mean a lightning R-r-r-r-rod, with which to chase these spooks away?

    That quotation was compared to what Rick Santorum said in the last election, but I think if might be applied to Trump today.

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: A Dream Too Far?

  6. avatar
    helen April 30, 2016 at 12:57 am #

    freudian slips , bare the truth, and astonish the readers. plus the good old stealing of others words.

    Ok, so you are not perfect! that is what happens to us all.

  7. avatar
    J.D. Sue April 30, 2016 at 11:00 am #

    “I really don’t know what to call what they want to do . . .”

    I like this term for it: Palingenetic Ultranationalism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism

  8. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

    Helen, your psychoanalytic skills don’t impress me. Didn’t Freud say that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar?

  9. avatar
    RanTalbott May 1, 2016 at 3:46 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: Didn’t Freud say that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar?

    I thought that was what Monica told Bill…

    The word that came to my mind for what the birthers and Trumpkins want is “revanchism”. It seems especially apt for the loonier fringe (e.g., Bird Boy) who express a desire for a revolution/civil war in which they kill all their “enemies”.

  10. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 1, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

    Apparently not. The quote, however apt, is likely apocryphal.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Didn’t Freud say that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar?

  11. avatar
    dualer May 2, 2016 at 3:45 am #

    Why are you listed as the “fOwner” at “Hartford Trade Svc.”, the entity that cremated Adam Lanza? Is the nutty Coroner, who is plainly not really a coroner, you? Sure looks like it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA

    https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/04/28/sandy-hook-the-case-of-adam-lanzas-ex-con-funeral-director/comment-page-1/#comment-111629

  12. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 2, 2016 at 9:03 am #

    I’m not listed on anything associated with Hartford Trade Svc. Just because two parts of the name are the same as mine, why would you say it’s me? Name coincidences abound.

    dualer: Why are you listed as the “fOwner” at “Hartford Trade Svc.”, the entity that cremated Adam Lanza?

  13. avatar
    bob May 2, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I’m not listed on anything associated with Hartford Trade Svc. Just because two parts of the name are the same as mine, why would you say it’s me? Name coincidences abound.

    And these are the geniuses who thought they were going to remove a sitting president.

  14. avatar
    Reality Check May 2, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

    I know. Spokeo.com lists 324 results for “Kevin Davidson”. It’s such an unusual name. 😆

    bob: And these are the geniuses who thought they were going to remove a sitting president.

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    gorefan May 2, 2016 at 1:00 pm #

    dualer: Why are you listed as the “fOwner” at “Hartford Trade Svc.”,

    No, Doc is actually a highly rated quarterback.

    http://www.maxpreps.com/news/QaZ3Lo-R50qX8vCwhERo6Q/uc-davis-bound-quarterback-kevin-davidson-back-at-san-ramon-valley.htm

    And you can buy his music on Amazon,

    http://www.amazon.com/Kevin-Davidson/e/B001LHAQQE

    Which leaves me asking you just one question – are you a moron?

    dualer: Sure looks like it.

    Thanks for answering my question.

  16. avatar
    gorefan May 2, 2016 at 1:04 pm #

    bob: And these are the geniuses who thought they were going to remove a sitting president.

    Dualer is a four time loser in one state alone. That has to be close to a record.

  17. avatar
    Pete May 2, 2016 at 8:13 pm #

    There are about 8 “Kevin Davidsons” just in the tiny state of Connecticut alone.

    One is listed in East Hartford and is 30 years old.

    You just have to wonder: Does being that @#( stupid hurt?

  18. avatar
    Rickey May 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm #

    dualer:
    Why are you listed as the “fOwner” at “Hartford Trade Svc.”, the entity that cremated Adam Lanza? Is the nutty Coroner, who is plainly not really a coroner, you? Sure looks like it.

    That’s what happens when amateurs try to be sleuths – you get old, out-of-date information and then jump to conclusions.

    Hartford Trade Service, LLC was originally incorporated in 2001. The owner was Kevin K. Riley, a resident of Somers, CT. Riley is 59 years old and now owns a rooming house in Somers. The business ID of Hartford Trade Service was 0684625 and Riley’s corporation was dissolved in 2010, thus he had been out of the funeral home/cremation business for more than two years when the Sandy Hook killings took place. He sold the business to Kevin Davidson, a 32-year-old man who lives in North Haven, CT. Davidson filed new corporate papers under the name Hartford Trade Service, LLC on October 25, 2010. The business ID for the new corporation ID is 1018891 and its corporate license is still active.

    This information is readily available on the website of Connecticut’s Secretary of State and is the only source for current corporate records in Connecticut. If you conspiracy-mongers knew what you were doing, you wouldn’t repeatedly find yourselves with your heads stuck in rabbit holes.

    The Google Maps photo of 623 Main Street in East Hartford was taken five years ago and the sign says “Kevin Davidson, Director” – further evidence that Kevin Riley was no longer involved in the business.

  19. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 2, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

    My underwater photography is pretty cool:

    http://www.underwatercolours.com/kevin.html

    gorefan: No, Doc is actually a highly rated quarterback.

  20. avatar
    Reality Check May 3, 2016 at 7:53 am #

    Nice job Ricky. Of course the “anomalies” about the funeral home will still be added to the list of reasons to doubt the Newtown shooting details by degenerates like BSE.

    Rickey: That’s what happens when amateurs try to be sleuths – you get old, out-of-date information and then jump to conclusions.

  21. avatar
    Crustacean May 3, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    They never let things like facts get in the way of a good story, do they! And I see this morning that (surprise, surprise!) the poor idiots just won’t let it go.

    Birther Report commenter “NBC_Vic_Hern” breathed life into the smoldering pile of dung in a different thread, and “Rtm9999 the Verbose” got his self all worked up:

    “Wow if this is the very same Keven Davidson that is Dr Conspiracy ….
    Allegedly Kevin Davidson … is a resident of North Carolina (Oddly according to [a pointless Web page] both Kevin Davidson and Alvin Onaka also belonged to the very same NAMPHSIS organization) … Why would a North Carolina resident and ardent supporter of Obama … also own a funeral home in Sandy Hook, Connecticut … used by Obama to push for gun control has the shooter’s dead body be taken care of by the allegedly defunct funeral home that is owned by Dr Conspiracy???????
    I was willing to give Sandy Hook a pass but now I am truly intrigued by the oddities revealed at the link you just supplied.”

    Wow, Doc. As if it weren’t bad enough that they accuse you of being involved in some heinous conspiracy, they have the nerve to accuse you of being from NORTH Carolina? Seriously? The whackos who put vinegar in their BBQ sauce? That’s beyond the pale…

    Reality Check: Nice job Ricky. Of course the “anomalies” about the funeral home will still be added to the list of reasons to doubt the Newtown shooting details by degenerates like BSE.

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    CRJ May 3, 2016 at 1:26 pm #

    Reality Check: Of course the “anomalies

    I do not see optimism among the birthers. Rather than looking to progress, birthers hearken to the “good old days” that really never existed. They want to smash the status quo and set up some fundamentalist constitutional theocracy. I really don’t know what to call what they want to do, and I’m not sure they know themselves. I think the success of Donald Trump is emblematic of their desire to have someone chase these spooks away and excuse them from entering the brave new world.

    All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.— Walt Disney

    This doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Progress as a reference to technology and science has complete different aspects to progress philosophically. It seems your narrative is mixing the plains.

    The good old days as per status quo quoted are actually one, as in the Birther Context simply defends Art. 2, Section 1, C-5 as is. [Citizen] at the Time of the Adoption, [ natural born Citizen] thereafter.

    No doubt, the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed in Minor v. Happersett [At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all [children born in a country of parents who were its citizens] became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or [natural-born citizens], ..]

    Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents is the status quo of our History minus those who were [Citizens] at the Time of the Adoption of COTUS.

    OBAMA has not been the status quo, but the anomaly not born at the Time of the Adoption, and having a foreign inherited citizenship from Kenya every bit as relevant as the tie Ted Cruz claims from his one parent from the U.S. ; both being ineligible by the foreign dual citizenships.

    The ramifications of the error are foolishly thought to be over after 8 years. Every Republican Candidate has promised to end Obamacare. The fastest tract to do that is simply to find Obama’s signiture moot.

    OBAMA doesn’t have to be in Office to do that, in fact it will help tremendously for him to be out of the Office.

    To infer the actions of an ineligible are less important than the status of pomp in the Office of an ineligible is gross miscalculation.

    Who gives a rat’s butt what Obama “thinks” of himself? I don’t. That’s his personal problem. . not mine. What the Constitution states of him is that he is ineligible.

    But that’s optimistic theory of progress retires Obama and much more effectively retiring what he’s done that’s been ill- gotten.

    Obama’s own foolishness would be going against the Constitution half-assed. In other words, being unqualified in dishonoring the Constitution, but honoring the Constitution’s two-term Principle.

    It’s pretty common knowledge Trump in the Office will be doomsday for anything Obama including renaming a mountain. Lol

    The triumph of Birthers is waving goodbye for it is ultimately not a particular religion referred to in your comment, “some fundamentalist constitutional theocracy”, but simply the U.S. Constitution we have always defended.

    It is that Constitution that allows dreams like Walt Disney’s to come true in a place the State is reigned in and collected by the Supreme Law of the Land.

    Unseating Obama maybe just waiting him out and then exposing him by the powers in the Office extended by the People to another person. OBAMA will never escape the Birther Label as Unqualified, and the witness of the political tide you’d have to admit is going against what he has represented as an abolishion -a spook or fading ghost 👻 a peeping muttering spirit of an inconsequential hiccup as you mention.

    Obama’s trial coming late, or after he’s gone will suit the Courts much more readily as he’s HISTORY, as in old news. Truth comes out.. Especially in today’s technical and scientific world that is out to bury lies with information that works and is progressive in intelligence.

    The Sun is still shining and it’s work not done as a status quo. It shined before Obama and will shine after as brightly. Consistentcies that are smart should be welcome and embraced and Birther as well as Anti Birthers will have to embrace the light of tomorrow.

    That light in the a office on Obama’s Ineligibility should be very interesting and I suspect will be much more welcome by Birthers than anti-Birthers whose claim might be he lasted eight years. Lol. What is that in the Life of a Nation? Small pataoes.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_N6H00iYmQ

  23. avatar
    bob May 3, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

    CRJ: Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents is the status quo of our History minus those who were [Citizens] at the Time of the Adoption of COTUS.

    Judy proves Doc again correct: Judy harkens back to the “good ole days” of the birthers’ wholly imaginary two-citizen-parent “rule” that never existed.

  24. avatar
    Rickey May 3, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

    CRJ

    Obama’s trial coming late, or after he’s gone will suit the Courts much more readily as he’s HISTORY, as in old news.

    What trial? There will be no trial. Even if your imaginary “two-citizen parent rule” were real, Obama has broken no laws. He never tried to disguise the fact that his father was not a U.S. citizen.

    What law would you charge him with breaking? Please be specific, and for once in your life try to be concise.

    And I see that you are still operating under the delusion that if Obama were found to be ineligible that every piece of legislation that he signed into law would be null and void.

  25. avatar
    Rickey May 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm #

    Reality Check:
    Nice job Ricky. Of course the “anomalies” about the funeral home will still be added to the list of reasons to doubt the Newtown shooting details by degenerates like BSE.

    I checked and the funeral home is still licensed by the State of Connecticut – as a crematorium. Apparently “dualer” and the other Sandy Hook Einsteins never bothered to look there.

  26. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 3, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

    I don’t know how clear the article is. The point is about optimism or the lack thereof. Today an older fellow talked to me about his daughter who married an Australian and is now living in Australia. He said something to the effect that his daughter shouldn’t ever return to the US because it’s going to be a “hell hole.”

    In the 1950’s I think that people felt that technology was going to solve our problems. Now people like me think that technology still may solve some of our problems, but that some problems are part of normal human existence, or as Scott Peck put it: “Life is difficult.” Jesus said that we would have the poor with us always. So far that seems to be about the way it is–still that is no reason not to be charitable, nor to ignore our problems.

    CRJ: Progress as a reference to technology and science has complete different aspects to progress philosophically. It seems your narrative is mixing the plains.

  27. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 3, 2016 at 7:24 pm #

    Not really. The Chancery Court of New York reported that children of aliens born in the United States were natural born citizens and had always been so, and further that this was the universal opinion of the public mind (1844). This was also affirmed in the time of Lincoln by his Attorney General. After that time anti-immigrant fervor prompted the passage of the Page Act and the Chinese Exclusion act, which prevented Chinese persons from becoming citizens. Doubts arose around that time (1875), and these doubts are reflected in Minor v. Happersett. Those doubts were resolved by the Supreme Court in US v. Wong. Two-citizen parents and born in the country has never been the law in the United States for natural born citizens. Never.

    CRJ: Born in the U.S. to Citizen Parents is the status quo of our History minus those who were [Citizens] at the Time of the Adoption of COTUS.

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    CRJ May 4, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

    Rickey: What trial?

    I was referring to the trial the Government may go through disbanding Obamacare in the most affordable way, which would be making Obama’s Signature as ‘moot’.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Those doubts were resolved by the Supreme Court in US v. Wong. Two-citizen parents and born in the country has never been the law in the United States for natural born citizens. Never.

    Most Scholars do agree however Doc, the issue is not resolved between Candidates with standing for the Office of the President including multiple scholars from Harvard

    http://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/1/14/10772734/is-ted-cruz-citizen

    In the long term, political parties have three equally unappealing options. They could try to pass a constitutional amendment to “clarify” the meaning of the term natural-born citizen, even though it might not be necessary. They could nominate a candidate and then deliberately encourage a court battle against him, for the purpose of settling the legal argument once and for all. Or they could forever avoid nominating candidates not born in the US but born to US-citizen parents, just in case it turned out that they weren’t constitutionally eligible after all.

    http://codyjudy.blogspot.com/2016/05/breaking-special-report-donald-trump.html

  29. avatar
    bob May 4, 2016 at 4:24 pm #

    CRJ:

    http://www.vox.com/explainers/2016/1/14/10772734/is-ted-cruz-citizen

    If Judy could read the very article he cited, he would notice that it says that “everyone agrees” that those born in United States — regardless of parentage — are natural-born citizens. As President Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a natural-born citizen.

    And, by implication, no one agrees with birthers’ wholly imaginary two-citizen-parent “rule.”

  30. avatar
    bob May 4, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

    CRJ: I was referring to the trial the Government may go through disbanding Obamacare

    O RLY?:

    Obama’s trial coming late, or after he’s gone will suit the Courts much more readily as he’s HISTORY, as in old news. Truth comes out..

    Nope: Judy was referring to an actual court trial involving President Obama, and then Judy flat-out lied (yet again) about what he said.

  31. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 4, 2016 at 8:59 pm #

    You used that word “moot,” but I do not think it means what you think it does.

    CRJ: The fastest tract to do that is simply to find Obama’s signiture(sic) moot.

  32. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 4, 2016 at 9:05 pm #

    I think what Judy was saying is that the easiest way to dismantle Obamacare would be a suit alleging that it had not been signed by the President due to Obama’s ineligibility, and therefore was not a law.

    That’s a pretty ineffective argument because an act of Congress becomes law even of the president DOESN’T sign it. Article I Section 7 says:

    “If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.”

    bob: Nope: Judy was referring to an actual court trial involving President Obama, and then Judy flat-out lied (yet again) about what he said.

  33. avatar
    Lupin May 5, 2016 at 6:06 am #

    Dr. Conspiracy: I think what Judy was saying is…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

    (And that makes more sense.)

  34. avatar
    Reality Check May 5, 2016 at 7:49 am #

    Perfect!

    Lupin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

    (And that makes more sense.)

  35. avatar
    Rickey May 5, 2016 at 7:57 am #

    bob: If Judy could read the very article he cited, he would notice that it says that “everyone agrees” that those born in United States — regardless of parentage — are natural-born citizens.As President Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a natural-born citizen.

    Reading comprehension has never been Judy’s strong point.

    Here is the exact quote from the article which Judy linked to, with some additions to help him understand it:

    There are three ways someone can be a US citizen. [Category One] He can be born in the US (regardless of who his parents are). [Category Two] He can be born outside the US to at least one US citizen parent, as long as certain criteria are met (those criteria are set by federal law and have been changed over time). [Category Three] Or he can immigrate here and then successfully apply for citizenship, a process called naturalization.

    Everyone [except Judy and other deranged birthers] agrees that the first category of people are natural-born citizens.

  36. avatar
    bob May 5, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I think what Judy was saying is that the easiest way to dismantle Obamacare would be a suit alleging that it had not been signed by the President due to Obama’s ineligibility, and therefore was not a law.

    I don’t think that’s what Judy was saying, but clarity has never been a strength of his.

    And, of course, birthers have been promising since before he was even inaugurated to raise President Obama’s purported ineligibility to every bill he signed into a law.

  37. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 10, 2016 at 2:17 pm #

    I was negligent in following up on my slip up, using “gooks” instead of “spooks” in the quote from the Firesign Theater’s recording, “Don’t crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers.”

    “Gook” is a derogatory term for an Asian person. “Spook” was a derogatory term for an African American person, used in the 1970’s when that recording was made. So the sense of a racist demagogue speaking works with either word. I have added a footnote to the article to explain the reference.