The right to bare arms

Bare arms

Bare Arms

Erstwhile attorney and full time birther Orly Taitz has posted a somewhat confusing article titled “It might be time now” on her website, saying:

Seeing targeted destruction of our economy, our security, dissipation of American jobs, massive corruption in the Government, Congress Department of Justice and Judiciary, it might be time to start rallies and protests using our second amendment right to bare arms and organise [sic] in militias.

Now is this just the usual illiterate Orly Taitz, or is she cleverly telling her followers to get out their guns while being able to claim to the guys in the black vans that she meant to raise a bared arm in protest?

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70 Responses to The right to bare arms

  1. John says:

    This is an interesting piece that Orly has posted. For Trekky fans, I remember this dialog was specifically discussed in Star Trek the Next Generation in an episode named The High Ground between Captain Picard and Data. Some of what is said is as follows:

    Lt. Commander Data: I have been reviewing the history of armed rebellion. And it appears that terrorism is an effective way to promote political change.
    Captain Jean-Luc Picard: Yes, it can be. But I have never subscribed to the theory that political power flows from the barrel of a gun.

    Data then goes on to cite specific examples such as the Mexican Indepedence from Spain.

    Picard gets a little annoyed and tells Data that he is aware of these examples in history.

    Data then tries to get Picard to concede to the fact that armed rebellion can be accepted if all other forms of peaceful change have been forclosed.

    Picard finally concedes and tells Data that historians have been struggling with Data’s dilemma for ages.

    I don’t think it is right for Orly to post that.

    But I also felt the TNG always provided thoughtful insight into such dilemmas.

  2. aarrgghh says:

    of all the descriptives i would never ever ascribe to orly, “clever” is definitely near the top.

  3. Scientist says:

    I just stepped outside wearing 3 layers and still froze my @$$ off. It’s all very well to talk about bare arms in Southern California in late December, but not around here.

  4. msdaisy says:

    Inciting armed rebellion is exactly what she wants, and if these idiots do cause any bloodshed, it will be on her hands.

    I swear I think she has some kind of Sybil thing going on and writes half of those comments inciting hate, rebellion and treason on her blog herself as other people. Here is a link to a post on her site, look at comment #2.

    It’s submitted by “Ro” who goes on and on about LaRouch demanding Harry Ried’s resignation and says (in part):

    “Lyndon LaRouche today demanded the immediate resignation of Harry Reid. “Because Harry Reid has now made himself a duplicate of Adolf Hitler, he’s responsible for every Jew who was killed by Hitler,” LaRouche said. “Harry Reid must take personal responsibility for every Jew killed by Hitler, by allowing this thing to go through. Every Jew who was killed by Hitler, Harry Reid is responsible for now!”

    Then comment #3 from Polly T.J says:

    “Hey Dr Orly, You know that Larouche guy is a former Nazi, don’t you?
    I am horrified to see that name on your site! I know you are very busy, but really, that is bad site management!”

    Comment #5 under the name of “Ro” (again) seems to be Orly answering Polly’s post:

    “Sorry about the post polly. i did not know but he is advocating for impeachment after all.”

    I think she posts under so many different names she’s confusing herself. (Not that that would take much)

  5. SFJeff says:

    always reminds me of my favorite bumper sticker:

    “Support the right to arm bears”

  6. In the United States, where there are free elections, and term limits on a president, it is hard to see how “all other forms of peaceful change have been foreclosed”.

    Orly continues to look at the United States through the lens of the Soviet Union.

  7. The surprise is not that Dr. Orly is calling for coups and armed rebellion.

    The surprise is that the media seems to be picking up on it.

  8. kimba says:

    I hope law enforcement has picked up on it too! Time for someone to pay her a visit.

  9. Black Lion says:

    From the birther Chalice…

    “Do I think he’s actually a Muslim. You know I don’t know what his faith is. And um, I think that the key that I do not like Obama for is the way that he is destroying… mmmm… picking, on one hand, on some faiths and isolating others. And, uh, I have great reservations for what he’s doing and I do believe he’s a terrorist, myself. I don’t like him and I don’t trust him and I don’t wanna look at him.”

  10. aarrgghh says:

    shorter chalice:

    help! there’s a ni**er on my teevee!

  11. Estiveo says:

    My beloved has corrected her spelling from “bare” to “Bear”…there is now no ambiguity, she is advocating the violent overthrow of the constitutional government of the United States of America. CEL3 is so right about her temperature, tension, relative humidity…Who wouldn’t want to be violently overthrown by that spider-eyed Godess?

  12. msdaisy says:

    Yes, can you just imagine her being hauled into court???

  13. Black Lion says:

    Even more funny was this comedic article written by our buddy Bob Campbell…I guess he and the birthers still can’t get over the Carter’s ruling against Orly….

    “I went back and read some of Carter’s words and was stunned by his lack of knowledge of the Constitution or even a basic understanding of what is really going on here.”

    “The Judge forgot to mention the fact that Obama committed FRAUD when taking office. Obama knowingly defrauded the public when he placed his name on the ballot and again when he the took the Oath of Office. Obama is a USURPER, not a legal President. All the tea in China is not going to change the fact that Obama is a criminal and the Constitution is VERY CLEAR in that no man can serve or be elected to the Office of the Presidency unless he is a “natural born” citizen. If you are illegal, you are illegal. The election is basically “null and void.”

  14. Black Lion says:

    Even more funny in her post regarding “baring” arms to remove the Homeland Security director was who she thinks would do a better job…

    “Napolitano continued tenure in the office is endangering our security. People like me or like my military plaintiff Major Stefan Cook or lieutenant Easterling, or my supporter Brigadier General Charles E Jones should be in charge of the homeland security not this complete idiot Napolitano.”

  15. Rickey says:

    Of course it was inevitable that Napolitano would be blamed for the attempted bombing of the Northwest flight. Never mind that the rules for passenger screening which Homeland Security has been going by were put into place by the Bush Administration.

  16. Black Lion says:

    Or that the bomber got on the flight in the Netherlands and not the US…The last time I checked the Netherlands were not in the US so how could Napolitano be responsible for another country….Just another excuse to blame the President…

  17. I have it on good authority that someone left a comment over on her blog about the error.

  18. The Lady and the Bare
    (with apologies to Theodore Roethke)

    Orly came to a bare by a stream.
    Oh why are you fishing that way?
    Tell me there, dear bare by the stream,
    Why are you fishing that way?

    “I’m what’s known as a birther bare
    And so I’m fishing this way.
    We birthers are peculiar bares
    And so I’m fishing this way.

    “Besides it seems there’s a law,
    A most, most exactious law,
    Says a bare doesn’t dare, doesn’t daue, doesn’t dare
    Use a fact or a rule or an old piece of law.
    Not a true picture to draw, draw, draw,
    Not a true picture to draw.
    No a bare just makes stuff up with his jaw, jaw, jaw.
    A bare makes stuff up with his jaw.”

    “Oh it’s wonderful how with a twist of a phrase
    You can turn nonsense into sense, into sense sense, into sense.
    If I were a judge, I just couldn’t resist you
    When you are fishing that way, that way.
    When you are fishing that way.”

    And with that Orly slipped from the bank
    And fell in the stream still clutching a plank.
    The bare just watched her until she sank
    As he went on fishing his way, his way
    As he went on fishing his way.

  19. John says:

    Her first language is Russian, which she speaks and writes fluently. Say, I was just
    wondering if you could write a sentence in the Russian language about bear or bare?
    No, of course you wouldn’t be able to.
    No, just the typical pedestrian nitpicking about spelling.

  20. Mary Brown says:

    If I wanted to be taken seriously in Russia I would be sure to have a native speaker edit my text. She is so egotistical that she fails to take this prudent course. It speaks to her lack of maturity and her hatred.

  21. Scientist says:

    So this person comes to a country and, even though she doesn’t speak the language up to the standards demanded by the profession she chose, proceeds to tell the voters of that country that she knows better than them who should be their leader and tries (without success) to get judges to enforce her beliefs over those of the voters and their elected representatives. And you think that is admirable?

  22. misha says:

    Typical refusenik: it seems they all go in for crackpot politics. See Sharansky, Lieberman (Avigdor), et al.

    BTW, Lieberman has the intellect of a street thug. And they’re both from Moldova…hmmmm. Coincidence?

  23. misha says:

    “No, just the typical pedestrian nitpicking about spelling.”

    She promotes herself as an advocate. As such, she is required to have an excellent command of English. I cannot rid myself of my American accent when I speak Mandarin or Hebrew. I know my limitations, which she refuses to acknowledge.

    We had a friend of the family, a lawyer, who could not rid himself of his Russian/Yiddish accent, and was not able to practice law in New York. So he became a physician, where it was accepted.

  24. Rickey says:

    John says:
    No, just the typical pedestrian nitpicking about spelling.

    There is nothing pedestrian about it. Orly holds herself out as a “Constitutional attorney” capable of parsing the wording of Article II, yet she doesn’t know the difference between “bare” and “bear?”

    If this were an isolated incident, one might be able to write it off, but Orly has repeatedly demonstrated that she is a grossly incompetent correspondence school attorney. It took her nine months to get the defendants served in the Keyes/Barnett case; her appeal in the Cook case was dismissed because she failed to file it on time; her conduct in the Rhodes case was so outrageous that she has been sanctioned and fined. The Keyes/Barnett case was dismissed with prejudice, so she filed a motion to have the case transferred to another district! Her legal assistant was a disbarred attorney who apparently worked for her in return for room, board and benefits.

    And it isn’t just Orly. The other birther lawyers include Mario Apuzzo, a DWI specialist who has demonstrated that he is incapable of admitting that he is wrong, even when confronted with incontrovertible proof; Leo Donofrio, a professional poker player; and Phil Berg, a crackpot who has his own history of sanctions.

    I have asked this many times, and have yet to receive an answer: if Obama is not qualified to be president, why are there no nationally-recognized, indisputably capable Constitutional attorneys willing to take on the issue? Why are you birthers stuck with the likes of Orly, Apuzzo, Donofrio and Berg?

  25. Lupin says:

    I’m willing to give her a pass on the spelling, considering that, even in some of the judges’ rulings mentioned here, I’ve seen the usual confusion of “it’s” and “its” (or “who’s” and “whose”) rears (not “rares”) its figurative ugly head.

    The problem is less the spelling than the seditiousness of what she writes; if it was up to me, she would be disbarred, then arrested and tried. Finding a jury of her peers might be tricky, however. (I wonder if Natasha Fatale is available.)

  26. SFJeff says:


    Talk about nitpicking! You focus on one humorous comment about her spelling and completely ignore her calling for armed insurrection against the legally elected government of the United States.

    Focus John, focus.

    Lies about the President= bad
    Proposing to overthrow the government= bad
    A humorous aside about spelling= not as bad

  27. misha says:

    Unfortunately, Bullwinkle is no longer available to help Rocky:

  28. misha says:

    Not to be morbid, but El Al standards will not be standard until another tragedy.

    I flew El Al, and it took four hours to board. I did not mind for one second. In fact, I would have been unhappy if it was less thorough.

    I had to talk to five people to get on board. And my luggage was emptied, and the bags were examined.

    “Yeffet told the story of a 1986 flight that might well have been destroyed except for Israel’s unusual security measures. A young, pregnant Irish woman tried to board that flight at London’s Heathrow airport to fly to Tel Aviv. She carried a bag packed by her Jordanian boyfriend ostensibly filled with “gifts” for his family in Israel. Unbeknownst to the woman, the bag was actually a ticking bomb, set to go off somewhere over Greece.”

  29. Scientist says:

    misha-There is no way you could have El Al-type screenings on US airlines. El Al has a very limited number of flights, all international, and there is really no alternative to get into and out of Israel. But who would spend 4 hours being screened for a flight from Chicago to Detroit, when you could drive it in that time? It would be the end of the US airline industry.

    Not to be callous, but suppose a terrorist succeeds in blowing up 1 flight every 5 years. The death toll would be less than that from dumping all the millions of people that flew during that time onto the highways.

  30. Scientist says:

    misha-I’m glad you specified which Lieberman. One could have thought you meant Joe.

  31. In Russian, it’s rather difficult to confuse nouns and verbs.

  32. John says:

    Yes I am focused. Focused like a laser beam on the second amendment of the US Constitution which I don’t think is a living breathing document to be re-interpreted by left-wing judges.

    And how you get “her calling for armed insurrection against the legally elected government of the United States” from what she wrote,
    in spite of all her (gasp)spelling errors,
    I applaud your ability to determine what the meaning of is is.

  33. John says:

    Who gave you deniers the lofty attitude to determine who is “indisputably capable” of filing a challenge to Obama?
    What an elitist attitude, I am sure you think George Sorros and are so much more indisputably capable.

  34. John says:

    Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power Wiki
    I guess by your standards then anyone who makes a reference to the 2nd amendment of the Constitution should be arrested.

  35. Scientist says:

    So John, if you require brain surgery I’m sure you will have it done by a dermatologist who has never picked up a scalpel. After all, looking for a highly experienced neurosurgeon would be “elitist”.

  36. Scientist says:

    John: the US Constitution which I don’t think is a living breathing document to be re-interpreted by left-wing judges.

    Yet your friend Orly wants judges to re-interpret the Constitution to mean what it has never meant, to ignore the procedure described at great length for removing a sitting President and in the event of removing him to invent a “special election” that is mentioned nowhere in the document, rather than the Constitutionally mandated succession in which a President is replaced by the Vice President.

  37. NBC says:

    Who gave you deniers the lofty attitude to determine who is “indisputably capable” of fling a challenge to Obama?

    Legal precedents my dear friend, legal precedents.

  38. Rickey says:

    John says:

    Who gave you deniers the lofty attitude to determine who is “indisputably capable” of fling a challenge to Obama?

    First of all, we are not “deniers.” We are affirmers – we affirm that Obama is fully qualified under the Constitution to be President of the United States.

    As to “indisputably capable,” I have worked with attorneys on a near daily basis for the past 35 years. I have worked with excellent attorneys and I have worked with incompetent attorneys. Never have I worked with one who has displayed such monumental incompetence as Orly Taitz. Apuzzo, Donofrio and Berg at least appear to know how to adhere to the rules of civil procedure, but they clearly are in over their collective heads.

    Conservatives have The Federalist Society, a group which includes the most prominent conservative Constitutional attorneys in the country – among them Robert Bork, Ted Olson, Steven Calabresi, and hundreds of others. Why are they sitting on the sidelines during this supposed Constitutional crisis?

    I am sure you think George Sorros and are so much more indisputably capable.

    Wrong. George Soros is not an attorney, and is not a law firm.

    Do you not understand that having a law degree does not automatically confer upon an attorney the requisite knowledge and experience to competently practice in every area of the law?

  39. Northland10 says:

    Nobody here has legally determined who can file a challenge. They have only expressed their opinion based on research. However, that research would show that neither George Soros, MoveOn.Org or even Michael Moore are indisputably capable filing a challenge.

    There is one place that can determine who can file a challenge and that is the courts and the have ruled. Not one case has yet to have any standing or justiciability(sp?).

    No matter what we discuss here, the issue has been decided by all parties necessary, The Electors, the various states (in terms of certifying), Congress, the courts (by way of not accepting any challenge), and 69+ million voters. You may disagree, that is your right, but it is also the right of everybody here to point out where you are wrong.

  40. Northland10 says:

    I should state, there are many a well educated voices here who know the legal standards and whose statements and opinions have been validated by the courts actions.

  41. NBC says:

    Yes I am focused. Focused like a laser beam on the second amendment of the US Constitution which I don’t think is a living breathing document to be re-interpreted by left-wing judges.

    And yet, you seem to be quite interested in re-interpreting the eligibility section…

  42. Mary Brown says:

    The point that no conservative attorney of note has joined the birthers speaks for itself. Robert Bork, for instance, has never been shy. John, I would seriously consider contacting some of these folks and get their analysis if you can. My bet is that you will be greeted with silence.

  43. Lupin says:

    Agitating for the removal of a sitting president using force strikes me as seditious.

  44. SFJeff says:


    I was reminded today of what John Wilkes Booth shouted after he killed President Lincoln

    ‘Sic Semper Tyrannis’ (Thus be to tyrants)

    This is what I fear. Just as John Wilkes Booth believed that President Lincoln was a Tyrant, you and others loudly proclaim President Obama is an Ursurper, a Tyrant and yes- a traitor.

    All it takes is one Orly believer, smug in his Second Amendment rights. Just one.

    But yes, I have no doubt in my mind that Orly is hoping that her call to arms will lead to violence. She has no regard for the safety of anyone other than herself.

  45. SFJeff says:

    We don’t have the right nor the need to determine President Obama’s eligibilty. To all of us, and to everyone who voted for him, and to Congress who confirmed him, and Chief Justice Roberts, its obvious he is qualified.

    He has already been found qualified. The President has no obligation to continue to prove his eligibility. This is of course just my opinion. But after watching court case after court case go down in blazing defeat, I am quite confident that our duly elected President will not have his eligibiity successfully attacked, though I doubt it will slow down the smears of those who wish to destroy the President and the Constitution

  46. John: Yes I am focused.

    I think perhaps a more apt comparison than the laser beam is a horse with blinders on. You fail to see the lack of factual foundation for your own movement, ignore its excesses, and don’t understand its legal fallacy.

  47. The Sheriff's A Ni- says:

    Apparently John here is convinced everyone else is as reading comprehension challenged as he is.

  48. Mary Brown says:

    John you want this wonderful living-breathing document to be interpreted by a dentist-lawyer who does not even understand that we do not have a parliament and who seems to think civil war would be a good thing. This same person wants to determine, like a dictator, who is really American enough to exercise their constitutional rights and seeks to jail those who do not meet her requirements. It seems you can take the person out of Moldavia but not Moldavia out of the person.

  49. Little Dreamer says:

    SFJeff: But yes, I have no doubt in my mind that Orly is hoping that her call to arms will lead to violence. She has no regard for the safety of anyone other than herself.

    Actually, the way she drives, I’m not convinced of even that, but… if she wants to take her life in her own hands at 100 mph, who am I to protest? So long as she doesn’t injure or kill others (or cause others to do so), I will just mind my own business.

  50. Black Lion says:

    Speaking of Orly I guess she now thinks that her former “friend” Charles Lincoln might be an “Obot”…The birthers when they turn on each other are more entertaining than rats in a maze…

    Toothpick // January 2, 2010 at 3:04 pm | Reply

    Dr. Lincoln

    It looks as if Orly Taitz thinks you are an Obot! She just posted this on her site.

    Posted on | January 2, 2010 | No Comments

    I need help in research. apparently there is an attorney in little Rock Arkansas by name Charles Lincoln the second, not the third. I need as much info as possible about his possible connection to either Clintons or Obama or both: donations, campaign contributions so on. Is he connected to Rose law firm? Who are his main clients? Is he connected to Montgomery Blair Sidley, Perkins Coie, Philip Berg, or any other firms connected to Obama or Clintons?

    I also got info that Charles Lincoln the third might have gone by name Charles Linck and later changed the name to Charles Lincoln the third. Does anyone has this info? does anyone has address or phone number for his mother or sister? if you have info call me at 949-683-5411.”

    charleslincoln3 // January 2, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Reply

    LMFAO!!!! Orly has gone nuts a la puissance treize! My poor sad And Tragic Orly! I forgive you!
    Leave a Comment

  51. Rickey says:

    Northland10 says:

    Nobody here has legally determined who can file a challenge. They have only expressed their opinion based on research. However, that research would show that neither George Soros, MoveOn.Org or even Michael Moore are indisputably capable filing a challenge.

    Just to clarify, when I used the phrase “indisputably capable” I was talking about capabilities as attorneys, not about standing. The people I named – Bork, Olson, etc. – have both the Constitutional learning and requisite experience to capably file and argue an Article II qualification case, if they thought that such a case had merit.

    Of course, even the best lawyer in the land would have trouble figuring out how to establish standing in such a case. And the quest for standing has been the Achilles’ heel of the birthers since the beginning. They have tried mere citizens (Berg), failed candidates (Keyes), retired military (Kerchner, et al.), active duty military (Rhodes), and now former Chrysler dealers. All fail because they can’t establish standing, injury in fact, and/or justiciability.

  52. kimba says:

    Just when you think it can’t get any more bizarre….

  53. misha says:

    “Not to be callous, but suppose a terrorist succeeds in blowing up 1 flight every 5 years.”

    My goodness, you really are a cold scientist. You remind me of McNamara: he knew the price of everything, and the value of nothing.

    This is about the preservation of civilization. I’ll remind you: the definition of civilization is the right to die in bed.

  54. Mary Brown says:

    Oh yes it can. Now it is neuromagnetic weapons attacking people. This includes someone involved in the continental congress Orly attended and maybe Rush Limbaugh. I just read a little and had to leave. Someone else who has the fortitude to read it all can.

  55. Black Lion says:

    I am sure they will blame Obama for Rush’s heart attack…I guess he is getting rid of his opponents in every way…

  56. Scientist says:

    misha: This is about the preservation of civilization. I’ll remind you: the definition of civilization is the right to die in bed.

    Dying in a car crash on the New Jersey Turnpike because it was quicker to drive than go through a 4-hour check-in doesn’t qualify as dying in bed, even if you fell asleep at the wheel. El-Al type security is simply impossible in the US.

    The goal of terrorists is to provoke over-reaction. I refuse to be afraid and let them win.

  57. Scientist says:

    I was quite surprised to read about Rush’s heart.

  58. There is one court that can hear the case and rule on the merits:

  59. What? That he had one?

  60. Black Lion says:

    Good one…I was thinking the same thing…

  61. Mary Brown says:

    What happened? Did he forget he was in Hawaii, a state which possibly provides the best access to health care in this nation? Yes, Rush, you are commenting on Hawaiian health care which you would probably define as socialist. Did you forget where you were?

  62. Black Lion says:

    Here is the actual article from Orly via the racist Lame Cherry….

    “I do not like making a great deal of my life public as I do not care to have anyone believe me or not, as the debate takes up time I do not have to spare to convince people, I could care less about convincing.
    I have though since the Obama benefactors started cementing power in mid 2008, had numerous computer attacks, surveillance on my personal phone conversations in conjunction with certain military bases being use to grab the signals from the air, which is quite illegal, and in the autumn of 2008 by accident in passive sensors, I noted a wiping out of digital broadcast signals for two months in my location. In layman’s terms, something was interfering with the television broadcast signals I monitor, and for two months I was personally not feeling very well.”

    “Mr. Limbaugh stated he felt this heart attack coming on. Heart attacks do not come on in symptoms, you either have one or you do not. This points to something generated over a period of time to build to a neuro short circuit climax.”

    “I make no claims in this, but I know what I know in experience and science, and I know what this has a probability of looking like, and this right now has a 60% chance this was a electo frequency attack on Rush Limbaugh, as all the other possibilities have been discredited.

    There are numerous Americans who have felt the scorn of Obama from Rod Blagojevich in legal remedy, John Edwards in being smeared, Elliot Spitzer to being outed, Lawrence Sinclair to being set up, and numerous bloggers who have had their emails tapped and other situations they do not quite comprehend as just flukes.
    The technology is there to do what Rush Limbaugh experienced. It is time that Republicans in Congress started asking the DOD just what is available in Star Wars and if Mr. Limbaugh’s symptoms could be mimicked to create exactly what he suffered from.

    Strange is it not when it is the globalist backed ilk making wild claims about things Americans are doing the internet is alive with accusations, but when it is someone like Rush Limbaugh suffering from what looks like a neuro electric attack, all of these protectors of the world, seem never to notice or write one story or have one program on who just tried to assassinate Rush Hudson Limbaugh.”

  63. Whatever4 says:

    I think you meant to post this in the Birther joke thread. Cuz it’s funny.

  64. Black Lion says:

    It is hilarious…This is even funnier…I especially like the conspiracy theory choice…

    “After partaking “the best health care the world has to offer… right here in the United States of America,” Rushbo said that a battery of tests following what sounded like a heart attack showed “absolutely nothing wrong. No arterial disease, no coronary disease. The pain was real, and they don’t know what caused it.” He adds, “I wish I knew what it was. All people can do is make wild guesses.” Why, thank you, Rush, don’t mind if I do:

    Years of prescription drug abuse depeleting his general health and leading to arrhythmia of the heart

    So desperate to get drugs he faked a heart attack


    Turns out being angry for a living takes a toll on the ol’ cardiopulmonary system

    The fervent hopes, wishes, and prayers of all of liberal America (and some conservatives)

    Conspiracy theory: It was an O.D., and the whole heart attack thing is a sham. Notice how the doctor never specifically says “No, Rush did not O.D.”? That’s so she won’t break her oaths and tell a lie, because he is lying, and pulling her in.”

  65. Greg says:

    Heart attacks do not come on in symptoms…

    Not content with demonstrating her complete legal incompetence, Orly Taitz attempts to convince the world that she is completely ignorant of everything medical or dental.

    Mayo Clinic on Heart Attack Symptoms

    Some heart attacks strike suddenly, but many people who experience a heart attack have warning signs and symptoms hours, days or weeks in advance.

    In case you are wondering, dental care poses a special risk to those with heart problems. A dentist MUST know the basics of cardiac medicine!

  66. Rickey says:

    I’m trying to figure out who is nuttier, Orly or the woman who filed this:

  67. I believe that hats made of tin foil are very effective at blocking this kind of interference.

  68. Rickey says:

    It took me five minutes to discover that Charles Lincoln II’s full name was Charles James Lincoln II, and he died in 2006 at the age of 83. No apparent relationship to Charles Edward Lincoln III.

  69. Black Lion says:

    But Rickey, you are rational and intelligent….Orly is neither of those things…

    BTW speaking of irrational people, look at this recent article from WND, Orly’s buddy…

    “It’s Jan. 20, 2017, and we are gathered together in a small house on the edge of a lake in Eastern Texas. We comprise multiple families and by occupation include former college professors, lawyers and physicians. All of us are conservative, forced to withdraw from our professions and seek refuge in an out-of-the-way place in a red state. Three months ago, we refused to sign the required pledge to abide by the “Freedom of Choice” law, which mandates the promotion of abortion, homosexuality and other anti-Judeo-Christian acts.”

    “All eyes are glued to NBC News, the sole remaining newscast, for coverage of the inauguration of President Barack Hussein Obama for his third term in office. In 2015, both houses of Congress voted to abolish presidential term limits. No amendment to the Constitution was needed, they argued, as it had become irrelevant in a “real democracy.” Challenges to the new law were struck down by the Supreme Court, with Chief Justice Michelle Obama stating: “The people have spoken.”

    Important speakers at the event included Prime Minister Nancy Pelosi. She was recently elevated to her new position for a 10-year term by presidential order. Pro-Consul Harry Reid, lifetime Senate leader, and Vice President and Propaganda Minister Joe Biden also spoke.”

    “Conservatives predicted that it would happen, but the warnings fell on mostly deaf ears. Now, as many former supporters of Mr. Obama suffer the same fate, they realize, much too late, the consequences of ignoring history.

    Dec. 24, 2009: the night the U.S. died, a day that will live in infamy; it will be viewed by future generations as the darkest day in world history. The names of the perpetrators of the death of freedom for the entire world, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid,will be remembered, alongside those of earlier tyrants, for all time.

  70. Black Lion says:

    Things are even worse over at the Citizen Wells site…It seems like they are starting the Michelle Obama was disbarred innuendo again….Some posts…

    Michelle // January 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    I know like everyone else Michelle lost her law license, but we still don’t know why, coming from Chicago I don’t know what they mean in this article re: bagman, but more and more people in Chicago are starting to talk-maybe more information will leak.
    This story about Michelle Robinson / Obama has been around for quite awhile but for some reason more people are talking, with more candid comments on the net. People connected to the incident are now releasing more details. Blogs like mine are now putting the pieces together and it doesn’t look very good for our First Lady. The more I dig into this the more it seems that Michelle Obama may have been caught as a bag man/bag women for Mayor Daley of Chicago. She was hired by Valerie Jarrett to supposedly take over her dirty little job. This bit of information came off a CNN web site. It’s just one example of many comments on this matter. You know what they say where there’s smoke there’s usually fire and I think we have a firestorm brewing

    LDacar // January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Michellle, I read once during the campaign time, that Michelle Obama was disbarred for insurance fraud. I cannot tell you where I read it, as it was many months ago, but I can tell you that it was scrubbed when I went back to check on the source. I believe she was not actually disbarred, but given the option of giving up her law license, or being disbarred. She chose to relinquish her license.

    Michelle // January 3, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    The Obama’s two characters you would not want to meet in a dark alley.
    Michelle Obama’s Patient-Dumping Scheme
    American Thinker ^ | March 02, 2009 | David Catron
    Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:27:33 PM by JosephSmithNAW
    The First Lady helped create a notorious program that dumped poor patients on community hospitals, yet the national media ignore the story. Imagine if her husband were a Republican.
    The University of Chicago Medical Center has received a good deal of justly opprobrious press over its policy of “redirecting” low-income patients to community hospitals while reserving its own beds for well-heeled patients requiring highly profitable procedures. Substantial coverage was given to a recent indictment of the program by the American College of Emergency Physicians. ACEP’s president, Dr. Nick Jouriles, released a statement suggesting that the initiative comes “dangerously close to patient dumping,’ a practice made illegal by the Emergency Medical Labor and Treatment Act, and reflected an effort to cherry pick’ wealthy patients over poor.”
    Oddly absent from most of the unflattering press coverage of UCMC’s patient-dumping scheme is any mention of the role our new First Lady played in devising the program. A laudable exception has been the Chicago Sun-Times, which reported last August that “Michelle Obama — currently on unpaid leave from her $317,000-a-year job as a vice president of the prestigious hospital — helped create the program.”
    On the rare occasions when other “news” media have bothered to connect the Urban Health Initiative to its glamorous creator, they have attempted to whitewash this tawdry program. Typical of such disingenuous coverage was a story in the Washington Post, which described it as “an innovative program to steer the patients to existing neighborhood clinics.”

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