[In order to follow this argument you will need to turn your computer monitor upside down.]
Crack investigator Susan Daniels has been busy trying to make something out of a list of 39 social-security numbers (SSNs) she claims to have retrieved from databases, numbers that appear in abstracts from public records associated with names not totally unlike Barack Obama. (An expert on public records has stated that it is not at all uncommon for people to show up with multiple numbers in these raw databases.1)
This past March, perhaps driven by a belief that she had found something real, Daniels filed a complaint with the Social Security Administration (SSA) alleging that Barack Obama was using a social-security number issued in Connecticut (CT), which couldn’t be legitimate because Barack Obama never lived there. The SSA responded in a letter, admitting that Obama’s SSN was fraudulent. [Turn your head sideways.] SSA said:
After reviewing the information you provided, we disagree with your conclusion that a person’s social-security number depends upon the address of residence.2
If you didn’t follow my instructions, you may not have grasped the logical step whereby that SSA statement confirms Obama’s identity is fake. However, Daniels explains the step in an interview with the Post & Email blog. You see Daniels claims that if Obama’s identity and social-security number were legitimate, then SSA would have provided her detailed confidential information to refute her charges; however, by providing only this brief response, they prove that they are covering up fraud.
[You may now turn your monitor back to its normal position.]
The Post & Email interview is long, and you might find it entertaining. I think there is also something in there about Bill Ayers time traveling back to the 1970’s to help Obama establish his fake identity. You’ll have to turn your monitor to face the wall to appreciate that argument.
For further reading: Obama Conspiracy Theories articles on social-security numbers.
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1“when searching through database aggregators such as IRB, it is common to find a subject referenced with two or three Social Security Numbers (SSN) [due to error].”
– Susan Daniels
2It is well known that SSNs do not always reflect the residence of the registrant.
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Darn. I wish I’d known that. Makes sense now of why I can’t also find information when doing background searches on witnesses. It’s all fake.
How long did it take you to figure out how to do that?
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Maybe Susan Daniels can use her [on] crack investigate skills to figure out what fraud President Eisenhower was perpetrating. http://rcradioshow.blogspot.com/2011/05/dwight-eisenhowers-social-security.html
That’s a bad twang
Wait — it was Bill Ayers who assisted the teenage Barack Obama to establish a fake identity? I thought that was Grandma Dunham’s doing, while she was busy counseling juvenile offenders and swiping SSNs from dead butlers. Keeping all these theories straight is making my head spin. As Vincent Barbarino would say, I soooooooo confused.
I haven’t figured out how to write upside-down, but…
I recall that in one of Orly’s early “dossiers” she reprinted the list of SSNs and addresses associated with Obama which she got from Sankey. Two things stood out.
1. Many of the addresses were non-existent and others were obvious jokes. One address even had a Disney theme, something along the lines of “Mickey Mouse Drive.”
2. More significant was the dates. The credit bureaus always list the month and year when a particular address is associated with an individual. For example, yesterday I ran an address search on a person who lives in New York City. Below each address is an entry such as this:
Dates – Sep 02 – Jun 08
That tells me that the particular address was first reported in 2002 and was still being reported in 2008. It doesn’t prove that the person actually lived there during that time, however. It only means that the address was being reported during that time. Additional verification has to be done to confirm the accuracy of the information.
Virtually all of the 39 SSNs and wacky addresses began to be reported for Obama in the spring of 2007, shortly after he announced that he was running for president. How did they get there? It’s simple, really. All someone had to do was send in an application for a credit card after filling it out with Obama’s name, a fake address and a fake SSN. As credit card applications are received, a data entry person feeds the information into a database to begin the screening process. That information stays in the system whether the credit application is accepted or denied.
Most of those applications probably were pranks, although some may have been submitted intentionally in an effort to make Obama look bad.
An experienced, ethical private investigator knows that no conclusions can be based solely upon the results of database searches. They are valuable tools, but they only provide leads which must be independently verified. Of course, Susan Daniels was more than happy to tell Orly what she wanted to hear.
The question remains. How do any of you think he obtained a SS # from Connecticut?
RIO,
By the very simple means of sending in an application from HI, zipf 9xxxxx, which was entered as zip 0xxxxx by a low level clerk who did not catch the mistake. If the clerk was using a keyboard and not a keypad it is hitting one key over.
Occam’s razor and all that.
A. That would be by filling in an application form
B. It doesn’t mean anything
C. The President has been filing taxes on this number, claiming refunds etc without issue
D. It dosn’t mean anything (repeat for emphasis)
Here are your answers.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#socialsecurity
You’re welcome.
Well, you might try looking in the The debunker’s guide to Obama conspiracy theories.
ʞ”ıɹʇ ʍǝu ɐ pǝuɹɐǝן ǝʌɐɥ sʇoqo ǝʍ ‘sı ʇɹɐd pooƃ ǝɥʇ ʇnq
Zip code of the President’s grandparent’s house in the 1970’s – 96814
Zip code for Danbury, Connecticut – 06814
From Social Security Administration website,
“Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card.”
Also from the SSA website,
“One should not make too much of the “geographical code.” It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. ”
Now, you are suppose to be an “intelligence” officer, what do you think might be the answer?
Fraud. It couldn’t have possibly been a typo which caused someone to hit a ‘0’ instead of a ‘9’ when entering a zip code. Nope. No siree Bob.
Interesting that the Post & Email interview says:
“There are tons of other social security numbers attached to his [Obama’s] name. Some were partial, some complete. But the trouble is,I and others could never document him with any of these other numbers.
The article confirms that the only SS# that Obama can be proved to have used is the one that appeared on his Selective Service registration.
But, by birfer logic, the fact that she “could never document him with any of these numbers” doesn’t mean that he has never used those numbers. It means that there is a huge cover-up of Obama’s SSN-related crimes.And that, somehow, he has successfully been able to erase evidence of his use of the numbers but was not able to erase evidence of the numbers themselves.Hmm. Yeah, I don’t get it either.
Retired Intelligence Officer asks “The question remains. How do any of you think he obtained a SS # from Connecticut?”
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please explain why a young teenager, born in Hawaii and eligible for a valid SSN would initiate getting fraudulent SSN, now that is a really wierd birther story. So help us out here, what is your point or story, tell us!
Retired Dude:
OK, a simple typo explained Obama’s SS number. Can you explain how Ike got a California number?
I don’t think he did. He obtained a SSN from a stack of numbers which commonly end up in Connecticut, but which could be from anywhere, in accordance with the information provided by the agency.
What do you think this, from the Social Security Administration, means?
“One should not make too much of the “geographical code.” It is not meant to be any kind of useable geographical information. ”
This is a very familiar point in our discussion with RIO. I have seen it happen before with just about every Birther. We always reach this point where they are confronted by cold hard facts so glaringly that they have to retreat briefly to lick their wounds. The interesting part is the next move. What will it be?
a) Move the goal posts. “OK, it was never really about A what about B?” (B is the next discredited lie.)
b) Go away for a month then come back with exactly the same discredited argument in another forum or even the same forum in hope that the debunkers will have moved on. (Also known as the “MichaelN tactic”.)
C) Accuse everyone of playing the race card.
d) Accuse everyone of being Obots, commies, pinkos, socialists who do not want to listen to “facts”. (KYBOA maneuver).
e) Go back to a warm fuzzy Birther site and brag how you kicked some Obot ass over at … .
Well summarized and accurate. Thanks.
Uhhh, that the Social Security Administration has been in on the conspiracy since before the election?
Be careful, Doc. If someone can’t parse sarcasm, it might end up as a quote in another birther book.
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It would certainly be far more likely for someone to submit a fraudulent application in Obama’s name than for Obama to submit a fraudulent application using someone else’s Social Security Number. However, Orly Taitz can’t possibly imagine that Obama might be the target of fraud.
Just like if the Hawaiian birth had been a lie, birthers insist Obama would be “in on it” instead of considering that he might have been lied to his whole life as well.
The Birthers never give the guy with dark skin the benefit of the doubt.
> All someone had to do was send in an application for a credit card after filling it out with Obama’s name, a fake address and a fake SSN.
And the birfers proved it themselves – when Hollister fraudulently impersonated Obama to get his SSN details, the address Hollister gave was added to the record as belonging to Obama.