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1. Arthur says:

   January 8, 2012 at 11:00 pm  Arthur(Quote)

   Dr. C.:

   Thank you for not providing a link to comments generated by the recent article in the Columbus paper. It’s distressing enough to scroll through the nonsense left by the birthers who frequent this site; encountering an entirely new crop of birfoons would be unendurable.
2. Expelliarmus says:

   January 8, 2012 at 11:40 pm  Expelliarmus(Quote)

   The Ledger-Enquirer article gives us the name of Obama’s lawyer, who is confident of winning. Here’s a bit of the lawyers bio from his web site:

   Jablonski brings over 30 years experience in both litigation and political campaigns to the practice. AV rated by Martindale-Hubbell, he has appeared before the Supreme Court of Georgia, Georgia Court of Appeals, and Georgia Superior and State Courts; the State Ethics Commission and the State Elections Board; all divisions of the United States District Court in Georgia and the United States District Court in California; the District of Columbia, 9th and 11th Federal Courts of Appeal; the Federal Communications Commission; and the Federal Elections Commission.

   I have a feeling the hearing might not last very long…….
3. Majority Will says:

   January 8, 2012 at 11:51 pm  Majority Will(Quote)

   Expelliarmus:
   The Ledger-Enquirer article gives us the name of Obama’s lawyer, who is confident of winning. Here’s a bit of the lawyers bio from his web site:

   I have a feeling the hearing might not last very long…….

   But he’s not a “political decedent” as Orly claims to be?
4. Lupin says:

   January 9, 2012 at 3:22 am  Lupin(Quote)

   The only thing I can say about Orly is that I think she is (mostly) harmless, although I think she costs a fair amount to taxpayers and damages the image of the legal profession.

   Orly is but a very small appendage in a greater American fascist machine, and personally, I’d be more concerned about Pam Geller, for instance, who was in contact with Andrew Breivik (the Norwegian killer) and other loathsome types, and only a few days ago, called Jon Stewart publicly a “Judenrate”.

   My views about the legal limitations that ought to be applied to your First Amendment are well known, so I won’t repeat myself.

   But I’ll mention that even your great Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson at the Nuremberg trial found it necessary to request the death penalty against Julius Streicher because of his loathsome, vile antisemitic speeches, articles and books, even though Streicher was not a member of the military and did not take part in planning the Holocaust, or the invasion of other nations.

   Jackson successfully argued that Steicher’s speech made him an accessory to murder, and therefore as culpable as those who actually ordered the mass extermination of the Jews. I believe Streicher was hung as a result and, although I’m against the death penalty (a stiff prison sentence would have been better IMHO), I don’t mourn his passing.

   There is no doubt in my mind that Orly could do much evil of the same kind if she were granted power — which hopefully will never happen.
5. G says:

   January 9, 2012 at 4:04 am  G(Quote)

   Yeah, Pam Geller is definitely one of the biggest active purveyors of spreading religious bigotry on the internet. Her main schtick is extreme anti-muslim hatemongering.

   Just one synopsis of her that drives this point home:

   There is a reason that the ADL (A Jewish anti-defamation group) has said that Pamela Geller & Robert Spencer’s Stop the Islamization of America (SIOA) is a “group that promote an extreme anti-Muslim agenda”. There is a reason that The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated SIOA as a hate group, and that they are featured in the SPLC reports Jihad Against Islam and The Anti-Muslim Inner Circle. There is a reason that Geller and Spencer are featured prominently in the Center for American Progress “Fear Inc.” report on the Islamophobia network in America. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the People for the American Way Right Wing Playbook on Anti-Muslim Extremism. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the NYCLU report Religious Freedom Under Attack: The Rise of Anti-Mosque Activities in New York State. There is a reason that Geller is featured in the Political Research Associates report Manufacturing the Muslim menace: Private firms, public servants, and the threat to rights and security. There is a reason that the SIOA’s trademark patent was denied by the U.S. government due to its anti-Muslim nature. There is a reason that they are featured in our TAM Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry. There is a reason that Geller is featured in just about every legitimate report on Islamophobia and anti-Muslim hatred.

   http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/minimizing/0018955

   Lupin: I’d be more concerned about Pam Geller, for instance, who was in contact with Andrew Breivik (the Norwegian killer) and other loathsome types, and only a few days ago, called Jon Stewart publicly a “Judenrate”.
6. Dr. Conspiracy says:

   January 9, 2012 at 8:44 am  Dr. Conspiracy(Quote)

   There were several challenges filed so each challenger will get a few minutes to present. I’m thinking the hearing might run an hour.

   Expelliarmus: I have a feeling the hearing might not last very long……
7. J. Potter says:

   January 9, 2012 at 10:00 am  J. Potter(Quote)

   Lupin: Jackson successfully argued that Steicher’s speech made him an accessory to murder,

   Lupin, yes, Streicher was hung. Quite a nut, I hadn’t heard of him in a long time. He composed anti-semitic children’s books, charming!

   Incitement here is prosecutable, but there is a standard to meet. If unfamiliar with the Brandenburg test, look up the Brandenburg v. Ohio case, 1969. To my knowledge it’s still the standard in how the courts handle hate speech here.
8. J. Potter says:

   January 9, 2012 at 10:01 am  J. Potter(Quote)

   G: Yeah, Pam Geller is definitely one of the biggest active purveyors of spreading religious bigotry on the internet.

   …. and Mrs. Geller’s fine prose can be purchased now at the WND Superstore ….
9. Dr. Conspiracy says:

   January 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm  Dr. Conspiracy(Quote)

   A second article at the Ledger-Enquirer has spawned 20 more pages:

   http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/01/05/1881044/taitz-returns-georgia-judge-to.html#disqus_thread
10. Northland10 says:

    January 9, 2012 at 1:27 pm  Northland10(Quote)

    Given her DOA Senate campaign and her foundness for beating a dead horse or court case, this may be he most astute comment yet.

    Majority Will: But he’s not a “political decedent” as Orly claims to be?
11. Judge Mental says:

    January 9, 2012 at 1:46 pm  Judge Mental(Quote)

    Orly has issued a subpoena to the President (via service on his attorney Jablonski) to attend what she bizarrely still keeps referring to as the “trial” on 26 January bringing with him “any and all certified birth records, certified long form birth certificate, certified school/university registration records, certified immigration/naturalization records, certified passport records and redacted certified SS-5 applications under the names Barack (Barry) Soetero, Barack (Barry) Soebarbah, Barack (Barry) Obama and any and all combinations thereof and any other names used”

    It appears to be one of the pre-signed subpoenas of Judge Malihi available online. I guess he’s gonna love that use of the facility.
12. J. Potter says:

    January 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm  J. Potter(Quote)

    Judge Mental: Orly has issued a subpoena to the President (via service on his attorney Jablonski)

    I hope that turns up framed in his Presidential Library someday! LOL!
13. J. Potter says:

    January 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm  J. Potter(Quote)

    Looks like she forgot to check the boxes? Ai-yi-yi.
    Noted comment:

    1.Yoyo
    January 9th, 2012 @ 10:18 am
    Looks to my like you’ve completely lost it, b*tch.

    Not getting much respect from some of her visitors.
14. J. Potter says:

    January 9, 2012 at 3:08 pm  J. Potter(Quote)

    whoops, sorry, it looks like she checked all of the boxes …. so she expects Obama to represent both sides!

    Reading Orly is tough.
15. Judge Mental says:

    January 9, 2012 at 4:05 pm  Judge Mental(Quote)

    J. Potter: whoops, sorry, it looks like she checked all of the boxes …. so she expects Obama to represent both sides!Reading Orly is tough.

    Apparently she named only herself a a witness in the PTO and Obama can’t be called without an order from the judge who in fact had already ordered that Obama need not attend and had already dismissed the motion to depose.

    Obviously what any mail order lawyer does in those circumstances is to then print off an online pre-signed blank subpoena with the same judge’s signature and use it to subpoena the President of The United States.Brilliant!

    Leeessen to meee and let meee feeeeneeeesh!!

    Can’t fault the entertainment value.
16. John Reilly says:

    January 9, 2012 at 4:23 pm  John Reilly(Quote)

    Dr. Taitz always thinks of herslf as a witness, even though she did not see anything. She describes what happened in New Hampshire as her “testimony.”
17. G says:

    January 9, 2012 at 5:07 pm  G(Quote)

    If it even runs several hours in length, I won’t be surprised.

    Rambling chews up time. So does a bunch of back and forth between a court and a crank case in simply explaining to the cranks how the process of law works and in trying to steer the cranks back to focusing their arguments within the bounds of addressibility.

    So, while the end point seems fairly straightforward and clear, a lot of time can just be chewed up trying to get there.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    There were several challenges filed so each challenger will get a few minutes to present. I’m thinking the hearingmight run an hour.

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