According to the Daily Caller web site, blogger Brooks Bayne is behind an anonymous web site offering $10,000 for an authentic copy of Barack Obama’s course transcripts from Occidental College.
The offer is problematic for two reasons. First, if such a document were produced showing normal academic activity for a student named Barack Obama, birthers would never accept it as authentic. The other problem is that they don’t actually have the $10,000. Bayne declined to reveal the “recognizable” names of others behind the site.
Bayne said his organization’s members plan to pool their money to raise the cash prize, and added that the amount could grow if others step forward to contribute.
I’m speculating that Brooks Bayne is the fellow behind the collection of cartoons in bad taste here.
I guess this one doesn’t count:
There is also a third problem, I’d think. Wouldn’t it be a criminal act to release the transcripts without the President’s explicit consent? Surely releasing the transcripts without such authorization violates some privacy right.
I doubt the criminal that would do so could obtain a certified transcript, either.
It appears they want the transcripts to show Obama is not as smart as some cliam. Seeing the actual transcipts would not be to their liking. So I am sure they do not want to see the transcrips of mostly “A”‘s.
I suppose some of them also believe they’ll find class titles they find suspicious, like “How To Usurp The American Presidency And Convert the US to Communism”.
The usual conspiracy “Produce evidence X and we’ll pay you $Y”, where they inevitably end up declaring the evidence fake on some arbitrary reason in order to avoid coughing up the dough.
Which reminds me, did Donald “Hairlander” Trump ever release those tax records of his? Y’know, the ones he promised he would release if President Obama released his LFBC?
It would also be in violation of the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974.
Am I missing something? Is the president required to have a college education? How do they think this is going to help them?
It brings to mind Joseph Farah’s pledge to donate $15,000 to the hospital listed on Obama’s LFBC. He reneged, of course.
The HuffPo has picked up and expanded on the new Arpaio story out of Phoenix.
Actually I think it might be a crime to get them without authority through violating various federal laws on accessing IT systems? It might be a civil case for wrongful disclosure.
9 in iowa were indicted and convicted for accessing obama’s loan records
i look to REPUBLICAN Bradford Berenson (Harvard Law, class of ’91; associate White House counsel, 2001-’03) bush’s white house counsel who said:
You don’t become president of the Harvard Law Review, no matter how political, or how liberal the place is, by virtue of affirmative action, or by virtue of not being at the very top of your class in terms of legal ability. Barack was at the very top of his class in terms of legal ability. He had a first-class legal mind and, in my view, was selected to be president of the Review entirely on his merits.
My guess is rather that this is just another stupid propaganda stunt – as in “if they really existed, someone would’ve come forward to cash in the money”, followed by “that proves they were either destroyed or never existed at all because his entire life is a fake yadda yadda yadda…”.
Has Haskins sued yet? Or is this Haskins under an assumed name? He doesn’t seem like the pseudonym type. Too simple and earnest.
Buit then again, neither did Orly, until she became “Lena” yesterday!
Has Haskins’ various challenges expired yet?
This made me laugh….
HUFFPOST SUPER USER – QB Vll2
OK Comrades, here is the plan we have been vorking on for all these years….
We took the small black child from his parents in Kenya and have been “training” him since the mid 60`s to become the perfect Mole and now, as our time grows near, we have succeeded in planting the birth notices in the Hawaii papers, have fooled immigration and the CIA and Homeland Security and FOX knews and Bill O Reilly and Donald Trump and we are finally ready to spring our master plan on America!
Only one detail is left Comrades, we need to make him accessible. We need to make him seem normal like any other American citizen so that no one will suspect his real motives. He needs to blend seamlessly into the culture and we all know that his name will be the most important factor in this……I was thinking Barack Hussein Obama….!!!!!!
“It brings to mind Joseph Farah’s pledge to donate $15,000 to the hospital listed on Obama’s LFBC. He reneged, of course.”
when doofus trump mentioned HIS hospital records, the hospital spokesman said they only keep hospital records till the person reaches the age of 21
Paging Lucas Smith- some gullible birthers have money they need to be separated from…
Wow Donna, that is quite a find that quote from a former Republican White House Counsel.
Is there a source or a link for that quote that I can use in fighting the good fight against the birthers.
Never mind Donna, I googled Berenson and found a link to the quote at pbs.com!
That is HILARIOUS!!!
At $10,000 it isn’t worth it. Whoever did it would easily end up spending that much on attorney’s fees to defend against criminal and/or civil prosecution. Why don’t these clowns try to raise some real money? Heck, for $1,000,000 Obama might release them himself.
Besides, what do these dimwits expect to find on a transcript? It’s likely none of them have graduated college, or they would know that country of citizenship or source of funds doesn’t appear on transcripts, just courses, grade and semester taken. So what would there be? That he once took a course on History of Marxism or the like? OK, so what. Most people in Poli Sci or related areas have. And they should know the history of Marxism and studying that no more makes one a marxist than studying the history of Germany from 1918-1939 makes one a N@zi. That he was a C student? That didn’t stop GWB from serving 2 terms. It’s another Quixotic quest, like all birther quests.
Reminds me of this exchange between billionaire Jimmy James and reporter Lisa Miller in an episode of Newsradio from the mid 90s when Jimmy was running for president.
Lisa: There is evidence you were involved in Whitewater.
Jimmy: I’m Deep Throat.
Lisa: No you’re not.
Jimmy: Oh yeah? If anyone else in this room is Deep Throat, come forward.
*silence for 5 seconds*
Jimmy: There you go. I’m Deep Throat.
Lisa: Sir, that doesn’t prove anything. The real Deep Throat might not even be in this room?
Jimmy: Sure he is. It’s me. Next question!
Isn’t that taken from the plot of the movie “Salt?”
good find, huh?
yeah obama is an affirmative action duff
yeah, good find, HUH?
karl rove (on greta) also said that one of HIS DEPUTIES helped obama get elected to law review
it was in response to trump saying “no one knew him (obama)”:
You know, nobody knows him in college? One of my White House deputies was a classmate of Barack Obama’s at Harvard and helped get him elected the Law Review editor.
I have to agree with Gary Wilmott on the issue of Obama’s College Records. You can hear Gary’s take on Obama’s records here:
Play at 53:00 to listen for Gary’s comment on Obama’s college records.
sorry – that first one posted before i finished it lol
That was a great find Donna. I have now downloaded the entire statement from Berenson to my hard drive! I will be using it often, but the paragraph that you posted here is the most important. Thanks again.
Yeah yeah yeah. I’ll spare the rest of you from listening to that drivel. Gary Wilmott is saying that he believes the college records will show that Obama was a foreign student. In other words, Birthers assume there is dirt there, so that’s why they want the college records and why they feel so entitled to them.
John, my question to you is why didn’t you do what I just did and explain Gary’s take on the college records issue? It frustrates me so much when someone answers a question posed on the Internet by thrusting a big audio or video file and saying “watch this for an answer.” I once asked how there could be a sequel to the movie Highlander when it is clearly and thoroughly established in the first movie that all the Highlanders were dead except one (hence the famous tagline “There can be only one.” One guy responded with a 30 minute video review of the movie. It was only after I told him to just give me the damn answer that someone else piped in and explained that the sequel had something to do with space aliens sending additional Highlanders to Earth.
Even that’s not particularly likely, given that Obama spent his first 2 years of college at Occidental, and would more likely have been taking introductory survey courses & completing the core or distribution requirements, like foreign languages, math & science, etc.
We do know that Obama took two political science classes at Occidental from Roger Boesche:
(Note that the above article is obviously mistaken as to the timing of the 2nd course – “two years later” Obama was a junior at Columbia — they probably meant to say, “in his second year”)
Obama would have needed a strong GPA at Occidental to be accepted at Columbia. Despite what birthers think, “affirmative action” would not be much of a factor for transfer admissions, because there are no special support services available for transfers. A school like Columbia isn’t going to want to bring in transfer students who can’t keep up – they just don’t have time to deal with those issues for students entering in their junior year. That doesn’t mean that he had all A’s — Columbia wasn’t all that selective back in the early 80’s, because it was struggling to win student as the last remaining male-only Ivy — so it’s possible that they might have taken a student with a B+ average — but you aren’t going to see C’s & D’s on the transcript. (Note: Columbia went co-ed in the fall of 1983; Obama had graduated the previous spring — see http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/record/coeducation.html )
It’s also worth noting that Brooks Bayne is an anti-Semetic POS, as anyone who has seen his Twitter feed will attest.
Transcripts don’t show whether someone was a foreign student, only courses taken and degrees granted.
Anyway, foreign students are, by definition, those who are in the US on an F student visa. Non-ccitizens who reside in the US (whether as legal permanent residents or illegals) are not given F visas and are considered by colleges to be US students. We already have seen documents regarding Obama Sr., that shows the INS was aware that Obama Jr was born in Hawaii and was a US citiizen. US citizens are NOT foreign students.
Fail,, fail, fail…john and Mr Wilmott…
This offering of money thing is a common tactic in attempting to make a point.
Does anyone recall a situation in which the money was actually paid?
Maybe one of the lawyers here can help me with this, but I once read that courts have ruled that the people making the offer are the final arbiter as to whether the proof they’re looking for is acceptable.
Andy Martin is an anti-Semite, and Gary Kreep is a Holocaust denier.
Orly and Phil Berg make common cause with that pond scum.
You suspect this ‘offer’ is not made in good faith?
Exactly. And that’s why it’s never paid.
The famous creationist Kent Hovind offered a huge reward for proof of evolution. If you read the offer it says the panel of judges to decide would be hand picked by him and part of the proof would be that you recreate the Big Bang.
Hovind’s secretary admitted to someone looking to claim the money that he had no intention on ever paying it.
How can they expand about a story about something that hasn’t happened, has no date set, and about which no information is known?
I refuse to be an enabler of this publicity stunt.
Is that the guy whom Ali G asked if he ate bananas and when he said yes, Ali G looked at him as if to say “pay up?”
Yes, actually it is:
(It’s at the beginning)
Sacha Baron Cohen’s greatest creation
And then wait 14 billion years to see if some “Barenaked Ladies” are evolved.
Well, the whole universe was in a hot, dense state…
Kinda like Orly in front of an actual Judge!
You’ve been claiming for the longest time that Kreep is a Holocaust denier, and yet I’ve never found any evidence for that. If you have it will you provide it.
Gary Kreep had this sidebar link on his website’s home page: A photograph of Auschwitz’s main building, with the main gate in the foreground and the sign above it “ARBEIT MACHT FREI”. Below the photograph was “Learn the truth.”
It has since been removed. Bad for business.
You and your crowd say that’s guilt by association. Yes; have a taste of your own medicine. As a minister in Sarah Palin’s denomination said to me in Anchorage: “Auschwitz was divine retribution because you people have refused to accept God’s only son.” He was with the Anchorage AoG church; she belongs to the Wasilla AoG. Close enough for me.
Why won’t Glenn Beck deny he raped and murdered a girl in 1990? All he has to do is release his criminal record abstract stamped “Subject has clear record to date,” and this can be over tonight. SHOW US YOUR RECORDS BECK!!!
This looks like you’re peddling half-truth propaganda.
True, there probably was a sign, but you’ve proved at this point absolutely nothing. “Learn the truth” below a picture could mean anything since there has been many false claims regarding the extermination camps.
True, it’s Palin’s church. So we’re to take your word that some minister at an Assembly of God church said this to you and that by association makes Palin guilty? Shakin my head in disbelief.
If law inforcement thought Beck had raped & murdered someone in 1990 then he wouldn’t be running loose hosting TV programs. This doesn’t even qualify as half-truth propaganda. It belongs in the Big Lie Smear category.
“It belongs in the Big Lie Smear category.”
Billions of Irony Meters are creating global tremors from massive simultaneous explosions.
Just like Arpaio, Corsi and their coterie.
Really? Give me an example. I’d like to learn.
I’m just pointing out Palin pals around with anti-Semites.
He paid off some judges and law enforcement officers.
Fox and Friends do it every day. They’re right about Walgreens, though. A neighbor just had a baby. The bris is going to be at their pharmacy counter. Much cheaper than a mohel.
There’s truth in what you wrote, Rambo Ike. You could also say, “If law enforcement thought Obama had committed Social Security fraud or forged his birth certificate he wouldn’t be running the country. This doesn’t qualify as half-truth propaganda. It belongs in the Big Lie Smear category.” You see, with his Glenn Beck accusation, Misha is, among other things, mocking the absurdity of far-fetched charges.
As a side note, some would say, Sheriff Joe IS law enforcement, but as far as I understand, he only serves as a mouthpiece for his cold case posse, and of course, he has not presented any charges to a court or district attorney.
As to your illogical analogies I can only say, “those dogs don’t hunt”
Since I’m the one asking you you should explain what “Learn the truth” below the picture meant.
To me anyone who tries to deny the Holocaust is a complete lowlife, no better than today’s supporters of the Democrat Party who try to deny the tryrannical history of their party.
I clicked on it. It was a Holocaust denier site. Kreep has since removed the link. Bad for business.
Why do you defend a man implicated in a heinous crime?
There is no such thing as the “Democrat Party”, ramboneIke. Perhaps your reading skills are as bad as your understanding of history.
Apparently guilt by association is different when your are Obama and you have served on a Foundation board with Ayers?
Inconsistency and inability to actually respond to the merits of the other person’s argument, fascinating. This one is definitely part troll, by the smell of him.
Hypocrisy and idiotic arrogance are consistent traits of the trolling birther bigots.
There you go again. Dropping in the Red Herring. Didn’t you learn anything from the last time I exposed you & bobj on it? Naw, you’ll never admit it.
Obama & Ayers are on record. Misha is offering up hearsay – no proof. That as bad as Woodman and his 3rd party teacher that heard 0bama was born in Hawaii. LoL