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Taitz encourages military to openly demonstrate in uniform against Obama

Citing recent DOD approval for uniformed personnel to march in a gay pride parade, Orly Taitz says the door is open for anyone with a political agenda to push it in uniform.

Taitz said [link to Taitz web site]:

Important: if members of the military can demonstrate in uniforms in gay pride parade, they can demonstrate in their uniforms in front of the DNC convention and demand prosecution of Obama for usurpation of the Presidency using forged papers.

According to the DOD, the gay pride parade was a non-partisan patriotic community event. Read a more serious analysis of the issue from Stars and Stripes.

23 Responses to Taitz encourages military to openly demonstrate in uniform against Obama

  1. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy July 27, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    Do not try this at home.

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    JPotter July 27, 2012 at 12:31 am #

    Silly Taitz. Anything is an excuse in Taitz land to protest Obama. Like …. the sun rising, the stars shining … weather … the continued, perceived existence of space time.

    And she equates civil rights / social justice with political activity. Implying it’s a partisan issue.

    (Which, unfortunately, it is 🙁 )

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    MattR July 27, 2012 at 12:31 am #

    This perfectly encapsulates Orly’s legal mind.

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    justlw July 27, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    It worked so darned well for the Blue Falcon.

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    MattR July 27, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    JPotter:
    Silly Taitz. Anything is an excuse in Taitz land to protest Obama. Like …. the sun rising, the stars shining … weather … the continued, perceived existence of space time.

    I actually went to her site and the PS on her post gives away her true intention – finding another excuse to sue Obama.

    PS. If someone is not given permission to demonstrate in a uniform in American pride against the usurper parade, let me know, we will sue the military for the discrimination. what’s good for the goose, good for the gander.

    Completely unrelated, but may I suggest watching the bear cam.

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    JPotter July 27, 2012 at 12:58 am #

    MattR: the usurper parade,

    OMG, she just might be nuts.

    Soooo … which is the goose? Which is the gander?

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    Rickey July 27, 2012 at 2:35 am #

    Orly showed no compunction about helping to destroy to military career of the late Stefan Cook. At least Connie Rhodes had the good sense to bail out before going completely down Orly’s rabbit hole..

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    Sam the Centipede July 27, 2012 at 3:32 am #

    Rickey: At least Connie Rhodes had the good sense to bail out before going completely down Orly’s rabbit hole..

    It makes me go misty eyed … remember the argument in the court, which went something like:
    Judge: Introduce yourselves please.
    Orly Taitz: Your honor, I appear for the plaintiff, Ms Rhodes.
    Ms Rhodes: NO YOU DON’T!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

    The above scene is imagined rather than recalled, but the torment of Rhodes trying to work out which was her bigger mistake – getting involved in a seditious case, or getting involved with Taitz – is probably not.

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    Sam the Centipede July 27, 2012 at 5:54 am #

    And isn’t demonstrating against the Commander-in-Chief a form of mutiny? (Perhaps it’s only mutiny if they refuse to obey a lawful order; I know nothing of the UCMJ.)

    Is it an offense for a civilian to incite mutiny?

    It would be wonderfully schadenfreudlich to see Taitz on the receiving end of some of the harassment and persecution she delights in doling out.

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    Thrifty July 27, 2012 at 7:40 am #

    Isn’t Taitz comparing apples and oranges? I thought the rule is that members of the military are, in general, allowed to demonstrate for or against causes while in uniform, but they aren’t allowed to criticize the president specifically (because he is Commander in Chief).

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    Andrew Vrba, PmG July 27, 2012 at 10:49 am #

    After reading the way she was trying to connect Obama to the Colorado tragedy, using it to further her windmill chasing, and basically making a mockery of those people’s deaths, I honestly mean this when I say that Orly Taitz can burn in hell. And I mean that in most hateful way possible. I’m not a hateful person, but she’s not worthy of human consideration.

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    Potter, J. July 27, 2012 at 11:33 am #

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: After reading the way she was trying to connect Obama to the Colorado tragedy,

    Was it a gun control conspiracy? I have seen nutters alleging it was the second stage (first stage being …. “Fast & Furious”!) of a campaign to prep the public for second term gun confiscation initiative. Martial law, black helis, and FEMA camps. The usual.

    Throw everything and see what sticks. Just keep stirring The Faithful.

    >:(

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    bgansel9 July 27, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    Orly, Orly, Orly… I don’t know how they do things in Moldova, but, here in America, military active duty personnel are NOT allowed to engage in protests or conventions in uniform.

    Get some education before you go spouting such stupidity.

    See link just below for more information:
    http://tinyurl.com/3w8p2k5

    In what political activities are active duty members of the Armed Forces prohibited from participating?

    (3rd bullet): Participate in partisan political management, campaigns, or conventions (except as a spectator when not in uniform), or make public speeches in the course thereof.

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    bgansel9 July 27, 2012 at 12:26 pm #

    Thrifty: Isn’t Taitz comparing apples and oranges? I thought the rule is that members of the military are, in general, allowed to demonstrate for or against causes while in uniform, but they aren’t allowed to criticize the president specifically (because he is Commander in Chief).

    No, see the link I posted above. The gay pride parade that the military allowed the participants to attend in uniform was a special circumstance that will not happen again. It was a one time thing. Military uniforms are NOT allowed to be worn by active duty participants at any partisan event.

    Then check this out for the gay pride parade exception:
    http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Military-uniforms-OK-at-gay-pride-parade-3721582.php

    Notice that while I found the rules on a Department of the Navy website, the rules are directly from the Department of Defense.

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    MattR July 27, 2012 at 12:53 pm #

    bgansel9: No, see the link I posted above. The gay pride parade that the military allowed the participants to attend in uniform was a special circumstance that will not happen again. It was a one time thing. Military uniforms are NOT allowed to be worn by active duty participants at any partisan event.

    This is not quite true. While the exception granted was specific to this parade, the DOD made it clear (in the Stars and Stripes article that Doc C linked) that miltary personnel could wear their uniform for similar parades in the future if the organizer can make clear in advance that the event itself is not partisan or political (In the DOD’s opinion the SD Pride parade which had elected officials marching from both parties and the military marching in a part of the parade that had no political signs met those criteria)

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    MattR July 27, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    MattR: And I guess technically it isn’t an exception/exemption which implies that the parade is considered political but the DOD decided to allow soldiers to march in uniform anyway. It was more of a restatement of the policy while clarifying that the SD parade did not fall into the banned categories.

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    Rickey July 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm #

    bgansel9: No, see the link I posted above. The gay pride parade that the military allowed the participants to attend in uniform was a special circumstance that will not happen again. It was a one time thing. Military uniforms are NOT allowed to be worn by active duty participants at any partisan event.

    To be precise, they aren’t allowed to participate in partisan political events while in uniform.

    Although gay rights is a hot political issue, I question whether the parade qualifies as a political event.

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    Keith July 27, 2012 at 7:02 pm #

    Fourth of July celebrations are political.

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    bgansel9 July 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm #

    MattR: This is not quite true. While the exception granted was specific to this parade, the DOD made it clear (in the Stars and Stripes article that Doc C linked) that miltary personnel could wear their uniform for similar parades in the future

    Thanks Matt. I guess I stand corrected. The San Francisco Chronicle piece I linked to stated it was a one off.

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    misha July 27, 2012 at 11:54 pm #

    Rickey: To be precise, they aren’t allowed to participate in partisan political events while in uniform.

    Tell that to Lieutenant General William G. Boykin.

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    John Reilly July 28, 2012 at 12:42 am #

    The tradition in all services is that commissioned officers do not vote. Not everyone follows that tradition.

    The first presidential election I voted in was 2008. I was 42 at the time.

    Certainly, at no time would we ever have conceived of saying anything publicly about politics. To the extent we had opinions (and we did) those were expressed privately, usually at what passed for the officers club. Even now that I am retired, those who follow what I have said know that I respect Pres. Obama as “our” President, the same formulation as given by Pres. Bush. If Pres. Obama asked for my services, I would say “Yes, Sir,” and do as asked.

    On the other hand, we encouraged enlisted men and women to vote by absentee ballot.

    Orly Taitz, on the other hand, is a fascist (and I do not mean that in any pejorative sense) who wishes to make dissent or disagreement a criminal act punishable by death. Today’s rant is directed to Judge Lambreth and the clerk of the court. Dr. Taitz believes if that she tells the Circuit Court judges that their clerk and their colleague are criminals who ought be prosecuted, that she will get a good result. And if you read her followers, it would appear that Dr. Taitz is the rational one.

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    linda July 28, 2012 at 1:01 am #

    Disturbing, but true.

    John Reilly: And if you read her followers, it would appear that Dr. Taitz is the rational one.

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    Zixi of Ix July 28, 2012 at 2:16 am #

    Sam the Centipede:
    And isn’t demonstrating against the Commander-in-Chief a form of mutiny? (Perhaps it’s only mutiny if they refuse to obey a lawful order; I know nothing of the UCMJ.)

    Is it an offense for a civilian to incite mutiny?

    I don’t think so. There are very few limits on civilian political speech. As long as she wasn’t inciting violence or asking specific members to disobey orders, I would think that the 1st Amendment would protect even her.

    If she approached specific members of the military and asked them to disobey orders, that might be different.

    As long as she sticks to the internet and spouts crazy stuff to a general audience, she should be okay. On the other hand, any member of the military listening to her would face swift prosecution. Terry Lakin knows this far too well.