Major media preparing for shattering of universe

I don’t have much to say except to note yet another fantastical story based on the last Carl Gallups show, that the major media was readying to report Sheriff Joe’s Obama investigation findings.

By “major media” I guess they mean the Greeley Gazette, and the Sonoran News. Read the silliness at Birther Report in an article by Sharon Rondeau. It’s all remarkably vague.

I try to cultivate a sense of bemusement about how birthers continue to sustain hope in the wake of so many failures. Today is a good day to think about those failures because of two anniversaries.1 Yesterday was the 2nd anniversary of the first Arpaio / Cold Case Posse press conference, where Sheriff Joe said those memorable words about President Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service registration:

Based on all the other evidence…I cannot in good faith report to you that these documents are authentic.

One year ago today, Zullo and his posse said through Carl Gallups, “We will be gaining an audience with some VIPs from around the nation… we have some attorney generals and some congressmen who have said that they would perhaps speak with us; and one congressman in particular WANTS to meet with us….”

And all through this time we’ve seen “person of interest,” “enormous,” “block buster,” “definite plan of action,” “full steam ahead,” “there will be new revelations,” “this isn’t speculation any more,” “breathtaking,” “indisputable proof,” “you won’t believe the bombshells,” “explosive evidence,” “shocker,” “[Arpaio] will do something after the election,” and “surprises are coming.” In January 2013 we learned that due to unfortunate circumstances, the Cold Case Posse turned to the far-superior “Plan B.” With plan B “full steam ahead” we learn about “absolute forensic verification” and that they are in “total law enforcement perspective” mode again with a “definitive plan of action now in the works,” “gaining audience with some VIP’s,” “powerful things could begin happening,” “possible that something monumental will occur,” “real progress over the next several months (this was a year ago),” “undeniable evidence,” and last April, “the investigation is over.” With the completion of the investigation, Zullo concluded, “we’re in the driver’s seat.” Then, “information breaking” about VIP’s, “hopefully by mid-summer (last summer),” “light at the end of the tunnel,” “possibly mid–summer,” “three to six month window is still very plausible,” “the evidence is mounting up,” and “it will be universe shattering.”

And here we are two years later with none of this having come to pass. The VIP’s never materialized, what arguments that were released were shot down, and the Reed Hayes report remains unreleased. For the past two years we have seen nothing but publicity and promises from the Cold Case Posse. It’s pretty pathetic.


1Thanks to the RC Radio Blog’s MCSCO Cold Case Posse Timeline for these items.

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102 Responses to Major media preparing for shattering of universe

  1. Curious George says:

    The P&E, BR, WND, Gallups, Volin, and maybe the Police Gazette. Major media for sure. 😉

  2. Curious George says:

    From BR
    RELATED AUDIO:

    Team Arpaio: Major Media Heavily Involved
    In Sheriff Joe’s Obama Criminal Investigation

    Heavy on the bs, light on the mayo.

  3. CarlOrcas says:

    So…..the issue is not whether its Birtherstan Prime Grade BS but, in my mind, where is it originating and where are we going?

    Clearly Gallups is Ms. Rondeau’s source for the nonsensical claim that “major media” are acting as an “adjunct” to the non-profit posse’s never ending unofficial investigation. (That’s not how things work in this world but we can get into that later.)

    The ever elusive release date for the “universe shattering” information is a joke as I suspect the information will be if and when it is ever released.

    So…….is Gallups just making this stuff up? According to Rondeau he says “he is privy to the information which will be made public in the near future.” Is Zullo really giving him information? Is Zullo evening doing anything? Is Zullo punking Gallups or is it the other way around?

  4. Benji Franklin says:

    CarlOrcas: where is it originating and where are we going?

    We’re going down he same rabbit hole that these nobodies live in all of their lives. An imaginary world where their hate and paranoia gives them a reason to think their imagined special perspective on life is REALLY, REALLY important. They probably behave in these bizarre ways with personal issues all the time. Their acquaintances laugh at them and call them “crazy”. We give them the respect of actually addressing their disingenuous charges and premises. We’re the most fun that they have ever had.

    If Sharon had reported on WW2, she could have printed over and over again, Tim Adams says everybody in Hawaii knows that the Japanese never attacked Pearl Harbor and the mayor of my home town said that the value of the specific gravity of water is no where near one. She thinks the extended brain fart of true-believer Birtherism, is a perfectly respectable vehicle for demonstrating that she knows nothing about the fact-checking responsibilities of journalism. That’s okay though, because she’s no journalist; she’s just another Obama hater.

    When nothing comes of their big announcement, Gallups and crew will say that the cover-up is just continuing, but have faith. The statutes of limitation will make these Obama crimes prosecutable for x number of years, and if you all keep donating, we’ll find one honest judge and send the entire government to Birther jail, even if it takes us 7 more years! “And that won’t be cheap, am I right about that Mike Zoo Low?”

  5. Curious George says:

    CarlOrcas,
    “Clearly Gallups is Ms. Rondeau’s source for the nonsensical claim that “major media” are acting as an “adjunct” to the non-profit posse’s never ending unofficial investigation.”

    It all goes back Zullo. Zullo is the queen bee and Rondeau & Gallups are among the many worker bees that do his bidding. Buzz, buzz.

  6. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: It all goes back Zullo. Zullo is the queen bee and Rondeau & Gallups are among the many worker bees that do his bidding. Buzz, buzz.

    Now I have a vision of Zullo in a Killer Bees outfit (See Saturday Night Live 1976) buzzing around the country.

  7. Smirk4Food says:

    I’m taking wagers on the big news — anybody care to guess that it’s the release of a new book by Zullo that rehashes everything we’ve known so far???

  8. CarlOrcas says:

    Smirk4Food:
    I’m taking wagers on the big news — anybody care to guess that it’s the release of a new book by Zullo that rehashes everything we’ve known so far???

    Given the total lack of other information that makes as much sense as anything. I presume he would include the Reed Hayes report and conclude with something along the line others have suggested: “We have taken this as far as we can America. Now it’s up to you….the American people.”

    Zullo, exit stage right.

  9. gorefan says:

    The pattern is that Gallups or Volins makes a claim and several days later Rondeau writes an article about the claim verifying that it must be true.

    Brothers fall for it every time.

  10. Dave says:

    Excellent summary of the history of Zullo by Dr C posted in a comment at BR: link

    Given that Zullo has strung the birthers along for over two years, and Obama has about three years left in office, I would conclude that it’s entirely possible that Zullo will be able to continue conning them for the rest of Obama’s term.

  11. Jim says:

    BIG NEWS!
    Birfer Universe Shattering Evidence
    4/1/14

    Zullo claims all the evidence has been gathered, it proves 100,000,000,000% that President Obama is an alien from alpha centauri! In order to properly remove him, they must contact the alpha centauri County Sheriff and have them submit an arrest warrant and extradition to alpha centauri for the President…but it will be expensive. Everyone needs to reach deep and give until it hurts. Once this is completed, Congress will just HAVE to remove the President! WE NEED $$$!!!

    Because it will take over 4 years for a signal to reach alpha centauri, and another 4 years to get an answer back, we should be able to remove the President in a little more than 8 years…about 5 years after he leaves office. But, we will HAVE HIM REMOVED anyway!.

    Smirk4Food:
    I’m taking wagers on the big news — anybody care to guess that it’s the release of a new book by Zullo that rehashes everything we’ve known so far???

  12. Curious George says:

    CarlOrcas
    “Given the total lack of other information that [release of a second book] makes as much sense as anything. I presume he would include the Reed Hayes report and conclude with something along the line others have suggested: “We have taken this as far as we can America. Now it’s up to you….the American people.”

    Zullo, exit stage right.”

    Carl, correct me if I’m wrong. Didn’t Zullo and Corsi say that they would continually update their first Cold Case Posse investimagination book as new information was developed? Is this another misrepresentation to those who bought the e book? If they were true to their word, shouldn’t the Reed Hayes report be added to the first book? There is no need for a second book when they can add all the new evydunce to the first blockbuster book. Buzz, buzz.

  13. Curious George says:

    For those who are unfamiliar with Zullo’s and Corsi’s first Cold Case Posse investimagination book, I’ve included a link for your review. The book was published two years ago the day before the March1, 2012 CCCP press conference. The book is currently ranked at 544,844 on the Amazon best sellers list.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007FWO19W/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1393780412&sr=8-1

  14. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    I do hope that “universe-shattering” bit is hyperbole.
    The universe is where I keep all of my stuff!

  15. Sef says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    I do hope that “universe-shattering” is a bit of hyperbole.
    The universe is where I keep all of my stuff!

    You don’t have a backup?

  16. That material is summarized from RC’s MCSO Cold Case Posse Timeline. I didn’t credit RC there so as not to create a distraction. A further distillation, properly credited, has been added to this article

    Dave: Excellent summary of the history of Zullo by Dr C posted in a comment at BR: link

  17. Curious George says:

    I found it. How many people received updates as promised when they bought Zullo’s and Corsi’s first e book? Wouldn’t the Reed Hayes’ report be considered an update?

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/03/media-in-full-posterior-cover-mode/

  18. Curious George says:

    “But there’s something delicious about the way the Zullo-Corsi e-book project has been devised. For those who purchase “A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President,” they will not only get details of the first part of the investigation, but they will get electronic updates as it continues in the months ahead.”

    Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/03/media-in-full-posterior-cover-mode/#qIOqoBovbg3Ixhh5.99

  19. foreigner=gsgs says:

    I had thought “universe” were some pun or wordgame or such
    when I heard them insisting on universe-shattering, not earth-shattering

  20. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Sef: You don’t have a backup?

    No matter how hard I try to right-click on the contents of my fridge, nothing happens.

  21. Yoda says:

    Hey Doc, did you see RacerJim’s response to your comment about Nobel nominees being kept secret for 50 years over at BR?

    It is classic and they wonder why we call them stupid.

  22. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: Carl, correct me if I’m wrong. Didn’t Zullo and Corsi say that they would continually update their first Cold Case Posse investimagination book as new information was developed? Is this another misrepresentation to those who bought the e book? If they were true to their word, shouldn’t the Reed Hayes report be added to the first book? There is no need for a second book when they can add all the new evydunce to the first blockbuster book. Buzz, buzz.

    I didn’t recall any promise from Zullo/Corsi about updates but Mr. Google helped me find the following in an article written by Joseph Farah just three days shy of two years ago:

    “But there’s something delicious about the way the Zullo-Corsi e-book project has been devised. For those who purchase “A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President,” they will not only get details of the first part of the investigation, but they will get electronic updates as it continues in the months ahead. To my knowledge, that makes this e-book a unique experiment in publishing history.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/media-in-full-posterior-cover-mode/

    “Unique” indeed. Anyone seen any updates in the past two years?

  23. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George:
    I found it. How many people received updates as promised when they bought Zullo’s and Corsi’s first e book?Wouldn’t the Reed Hayes’ report be considered an update?

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/03/media-in-full-posterior-cover-mode/

    Ah…..just found this after posting mine.

    Now…..the wiggle room here is that it isn’t Zullo saying it. I’m still looking but can’t find a direct quote from Zullo or Corsi about free updates.

  24. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    That material is summarized from RC’s MCSO Cold Case Posse Timeline. I didn’t credit RC there so as not to create a distraction. A further distillation, properly credited, has been added to this article

    Nice job. It is interesting how devastating it is when you pull it all together.

  25. Jim says:

    Here’s the big thing, anything in the book or in the advertisements? Enough to open Zullo up to litigation? Orly…if you bought the book, you should be entitled to all CCP information. Better get onto it!!! 😀

  26. Curious George says:

    Carl:
    “Now…..the wiggle room here is that it isn’t Zullo saying it. I’m still looking but can’t find a direct quote from Zullo or Corsi about free updates.”

    As I recall, it was also advertised on Amazon as offering free updates to those who bought the e book. Farah would know about the Zullo / Corsi project as he was promoting the project for his senior correspondent Corsi and publishing CCCP articles on WND that were submitted by Corsi. They are all in the loop. The question is, did anyone who bought the book receive electronic updates in the past two years? I’ll bet no one was updated. Is everyone now entitled to a refund? What will Zullo do to correct this apparent failure to deliver as advertised?

  27. CarlOrcas says:

    Yoda:
    Hey Doc, did you see RacerJim’s response to your comment about Nobel nominees being kept secret for 50 years over at BR?

    It is classic and they wonder why we call them stupid.

    And this is a good example of why reasonable people find them totally lacking in class:

    Ed K · 6 hours ago
    maybe obama will be a historic potus, the first to commit suicide or od on drugs. they could run on this for 50 years: Racism causes causes suicide or od of black president. lol

  28. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: As I recall, it was also advertised on Amazon as offering free updates to those who bought the e book. Farah would know about the Zullo / Corsi project as he was promoting the project for his senior correspondent Corsi and publishing CCCP articles on WND that were submitted by Corsi. They are all in the loop. The question is, did anyone who bought the book receive electronic updates in the past two years? I’ll bet no one was updated. Is everyone now entitled to a refund? What will Zullo do to correct this apparent failure to deliver as advertised?

    Just checked Amazon – http://www.amazon.com/Question-Eligibility-Enforcement-Investigation-Certificate-ebook/dp/B007FWO19W/ref=sr_1_27?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1393785645&sr=1-27&keywords=Jerome+Corsi – and don’t find any mention of updates.

    I have no doubt Farah was parroting just what Zullo/Corsi wanted and likewise I don’t find any correction from Zullo saying it was inaccurate.

    I think Doc bought a copy. Maybe there is something in it about updates. I’m sure not wasting $10 buying the damn thing.

  29. Joey says:

    My money is on the Cold Case Posse taking credit for keeping President Obama from running for reelection (again)!

  30. Curious George says:

    Carl
    It has all the appearances of another scam. And yes, no correction about the Farah mentioned updates from Zullo that I can find. How about Zullo sending the ebook update regarding the Hayes’ Report to Dr. C? That would really fry Zullo’s goose. 🙂

  31. Oh that’s right. I did buy the damned thing (but not from WND).

    Curious George: And yes, no correction about the Farah mentioned updates from Zullo that I can find. How about Zullo sending the ebook update regarding the Hayes’ Report to Dr. C?

  32. Greenfinches says:

    Jim: extradition to alpha centauri

    but what crime has been committed over there? anyone know their Alpha Centauri law?

    hello?

  33. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Oh that’s right. I did buy the damned thing (but not from WND).

    Anything in it about free updates?

  34. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George:
    Carl
    It has allthe appearances of another scam. And yes, no correction about the Farah mentioned updates from Zullo that I can find. How about Zullo sending the ebook update regarding the Hayes’ Report to Dr. C?That would really fry Zullo’sgoose.

    Yes, it continues to have “scam” written all over it. Some things never change.

  35. Curious George says:

    Carl
    How about finding someone to ask the question on BR if anyone has gotten an ebook update from Zullo & Corsi during the past two years?

    Who hasn’t been banned and can post the question on BR? Maybe Mr. Farah should be asked about the promised ebook updates?

  36. Since the writers and publishers most likely control the Amazon content, I’m sure that if it were ever there it has been deleted.

  37. Curious George says:

    “Jim
    March 2, 2014
    Here’s the big thing, anything in the book or in the advertisements? Enough to open Zullo up to litigation? Orly…if you bought the book, you should be entitled to all CCP information. Better get onto it!!! ”

    Zullo’s worst nightmare. Taitz and Dr. C. getting the Hayes’ Report as free ebook updates. How fitting. Dr. Taitz, did you buy the Zullo / Corsi ebook?

  38. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George:
    Carl
    How about finding someone to ask the question on BR if anyone has gotten an ebook update from Zullo & Corsi during the past two years?

    Who hasn’t been banned and can post the question on BR?Maybe Mr. Farah should be asked about the promised ebook updates?

    Not me!! My user name has been blocked for months. I got on a couple times as a guest but that doesn’t work anymore.

    They like Doc….maybe he can do it.

  39. Benji Franklin says:

    CarlOrcas:You’re saying Zullo will conclude his announcement by saying, “We have taken this as far as we can America. Now it’s up to you….the American people.”

    Well, we can assume he says those same words every day as he gets up from his toilet. And that activity may have spawned an excuse in Zullo’s never-mind, so fantastic that only Birthers would resort to it, for excusing the disappointment of their ‘big March announcement fail, upcoming!

    And that would be claiming that there was a typo in the announcement. They’re not claiming the evidence is Universe SHATTERING; they’re claiming that the information will be Universe SHITTERING!

    Who can argue with that?

  40. I looked at Amazon and didn’t see anything about updates. You can read my product review at Amazon, which includes an indication that am a “verified purchaser.”

    CarlOrcas: Anything in it about free updates?

  41. Yes, for some reason I get to post freely at BR (when logged in through WordPress.com). When logged in via Twitter, I go into moderation.

    But I won’t ask that particular question at BR because it would be off topic and argumentative. It would be more appropriate to ask at WND. I try not to act at BR in ways that I wouldn’t want to see here. (On a good day.)

    CarlOrcas: They like Doc….maybe he can do it.

  42. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I looked at Amazon and didn’t see anything about updates. You can read my product review at Amazon, which includes an indication thatam a “verified purchaser.”

    I didn’t find anything on Amazon either. I was just wondering if it might be mentioned in the book itself.

  43. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: But I won’t ask that particular question at BR because it would be off topic and argumentative. It would be more appropriate to ask at WND. I try not to act at BR in ways that I wouldn’t want to see here. (On a good day.)

    LOL!! You’re right….plus I haven’t seen an appropriate point where it wouldn’t be off topic at BirtherReport.

    I haven’t looked at WND for a while.

    Maybe I’ll do it after I take my nap.

  44. Curious George says:

    CarlOrcas
    “I didn’t find anything on Amazon either. I was just wondering if it might be mentioned in the book itself.”

    As I recall, when the book came out in 2012, one could review a few pages of the book on Amazon and I believe their ad mentioned updates. We’ve already read that was the plan according to Farah. The current Amazon is not the same, including the $8.99 price which was $9.99 two years ago. The Universe Shattering information….in an update.

  45. Not in the book.

    CarlOrcas: I was just wondering if it might be mentioned in the book itself.

  46. RanTalbott says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: When logged in via Twitter, I go into moderation.

    So, maybe Mr./Ms. BR has some taste, after all 😉

    I haven’t bothered to figure out the details of their moderation/banning system, but my guess would be that your WP and Fritter logins are seen as two different IDs internally, and only one is blocked. Do you have different handles and/or avatars on the two systems, so you could test this by seeing whether one or both shows differently on posts made with different logins?

    If my guess is right, it’s probably a bad idea to mention the discrepancy in public, since it could motivate the owner to correct it.

  47. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Not in the book.

    Thanks.

  48. Keith says:

    RanTalbott: If my guess is right, it’s probably a bad idea to mention the discrepancy in public, since it could motivate the owner to correct it.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  49. Lupin says:

    I’m struck again by the birthers’ utter lack of patriotism or care about your country’s interests.

    Right now with the Ukraine crisis looming large, the US needs a firm hand sat the till. Even if there was a smidgen of an ounce of truth in Conman Zullo’s story (which there is most emphatically none), this would be a terrible time to throw your government in turmoil.

    Frankly, you don’t need communist, marxists, muslims & what-nots to imperil the US: you already have your right-wing elements who do their best to sabotage your country.

  50. Curious George says:

    From BR…..the preparation for the shattering of the universe continues. Karl Gal-Oops to speak to the Surprise Tea Party Patriots tomorrow evening. I can hear it now…..” I know lots of information about the investigation because I’m in the loop with Private Zu-Low and we have decades and decades of professional law enforcement experience and I know UNIVERSE SHATTERING information……but I can’t tell you what I know. That is why I’m here. I can’t tell you anything. But what I can tell you is that what I can’t tell you is really, really big, big, BIG! Just be patient for another few months or years and we may tell you what we know when the time is right. In the meantime, please donate badly needed tax deductible funds prior to April 15th to the non-profit, all volunteer Cold Case Posse. It will make you feel good inside.”

    And so it goes.

    http://www.surpriseteapartypatriots.com/next-meeting/

  51. RanTalbott says:

    Y’know, there’s something bothering me.

    If this Sup3r S3kr1t information really is “universe-shattering”, howcum it hasn’t shattered Mike and Carl?

    Could it be that they’re not of this universe? Are they actually Vogons, here to destroy us to make room for an inter-multiverse bypass?

    Somebody needs to force them to recite some poetry to find out. And, even if they pass that test, they’ll have to be dissected to make sure they’re not some other kind of space aliens.

    And don’t let them try to deter you by presenting birth certificates to “prove” they’re from Earth: those can be forged, y’know…

  52. Curious George says:

    I detect a Gal-Loops / Zoo-Low book release coming very, very soon, don’t you? Will it carry the WND brand?

  53. Most of the original CCP Timeline was posted by Verbalobe at the Fogbow. With his permission I reposted it on my blog and continue to update it.

    I enjoyed Doc’s comment at BR.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    That material is summarized from RC’s MCSO Cold Case Posse Timeline. I didn’t credit RC there so as not to create a distraction. A further distillation, properly credited, has been added to this article

  54. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: From BR…..the preparation for the shattering of the universe continues. Karl Gal-Oops to speak to the Surprise Tea Party Patriots tomorrow evening.

    Inquiring minds want to know…….who is paying Gallups’ travel expenses? Is he being paid for his time?

    Just asking…………

  55. I am guessing that WND will not be involved in anything with Zullo in the future. I think that some kind of rift occurred between Zullo and Corsi. I believe it occurred after the second MCCCP press conference in July 2012. That was the press conference where Zullo showed the race code table from 1968 and tried to say they were the ones from 1961.

    I believe that Corsi is the one who pushed Zullo to go with the race code “evidence”. I also believe Corsi knew there were problems with it but didn’t care. Blogger Ladyforest has even suggested that Corsi flat out lied to Zullo on on the issue. Ladyforest is the person who obtained the 1961 Vital Statistics Instruction Manual from the National Center for Health Statistics. Since that press conference Zullo has gone out of his way to point out that Corsi is no longer involved in the ‘investigation”.

    It is reasonable to infer that however that played out that Zullo blames Corsi for the race code fiasco.

    Curious George:
    I detect a Gal-Loops / Zoo-Low book release coming very, very soon, don’t you? Will it carry the WND brand?

  56. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: I detect a Gal-Loops / Zoo-Low book release coming very, very soon, don’t you? Will it carry the WND brand?

    The more I think about it this scenario is starting to make the most sense.

    I think they have probably worn out their welcome with the “any day now, send more money” pleas after all these years.

    So, as mentioned earlier, they wrap it up with a the “universe shattering” revelation that the case is beyond the grasp of the earthly legal system but you can buy your own personal copy of their “universe shattering” evidence for $19.95 (plus shipping and handling). Order now before the Xerox machine runs out of toner!!

  57. Curious George says:

    CarlOrcas: Inquiring minds want to know…….who is paying Gallups’ travel expenses? Is he being paid for his time?Just asking…………

    I’m wondering too….

  58. Curious George says:

    Reality Check: I am guessing that WND will not be involved in anything with Zullo in the future. I think that some kind of rift occurred between Zullo and Corsi. I believe it occurred after the second MCCCP press conference in July 2012. That was the press conference where Zullo showed the race code table from 1968 and tried to say they were the ones from 1961. I believe that Corsi is the one who pushed Zullo to go with the race code “evidence”. I also believe Corsi knew there were problems with it but didn’t care. Blogger Ladyforest has even suggested that Corsi flat out lied to Zullo on on the issue. Ladyforest is the person who obtained the 1961 Vital Statistics Instruction Manual from the National Center for Health Statistics. Since that press conference Zullo has gone out of his way to point out that Corsi is no longer involved in the ‘investigation”. It is reasonable to infer that however that played out that Zullo blames Corsi for the race code fiasco.

    Gal-Oops has published books through WND as I recall. I still see a possible WND connection.

  59. Crustacean says:

    CarlOrcas: Order now before the Xerox machine runs out of toner!!

    That’s my own personal quote of the day. Thank you for the healthy dose of laughter!

    Now I know why they’re called “Surprise” Tea Party Patriots:

    “Welcome to Sun City, and thank you all for coming. Are you here to learn about the universe-shattering evidence we have obtained to prove the greatest fraud ever committed in the history of mankind? Well, SURPRISE!! I’m really just here to sell you a book…”

  60. CarlOrcas says:

    Crustacean: That’s my own personal quote of the day. Thank you for the healthy dose of laughter!

    You’re very welcome!

    Crustacean: Well, SURPRISE!!

    Actually Surprise is its own city…..just north of the original Sun City on Grand Avenue, the old Los Angeles highway. Before Interstate 10 and the explosive growth in the area it was barely a wide spot in the road. Now it’s got over 100,000 residents and all kinds of big city problems.

  61. RanTalbott says:

    CarlOrcas: Order now before the Xerox machine runs out of toner!!

    I would expect any self-respecting Xerox machine to refuse to print Zullo’s book out of loyalty to Roxy.

    Oooo, I just had an idea that might really embarrass them. Did the first book come out in hardcopy? Or was it strictly an ebook?

    And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

  62. Curious George says:

    RanTalbott: I would expect any self-respecting Xerox machine to refuse to print Zullo’s book out of loyalty to Roxy.Oooo, I just had an idea that might really embarrass them. Did the first book come out in hardcopy? Or was it strictly an ebook?And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

    Strictly ebook, as in Ew!

  63. Curious George says:

    RanTalbott: I would expect any self-respecting Xerox machine to refuse to print Zullo’s book out of loyalty to Roxy.Oooo, I just had an idea that might really embarrass them. Did the first book come out in hardcopy? Or was it strictly an ebook?And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

    My guess is that Karl Gal-Ooops will spill the beans, maybe tomorrow night. He just has to be sooo very important in all of this nonsense. He has the gift of gab, that’s for sure. (He’s the only MAJOR Media contact I can think of.) 😉

  64. RanTalbott says:

    Curious George: Strictly ebook, as in Ew!

    Bummer. I was thinking it might be amusing to scan the “layers prove fraud” section through a 7655, and issue a press release about 48 hours before their show and tell.

    It’d put an end to their “The media never ask questions” whining…

    Printing and scanning wouldn’t work quite as well: they’d come up with some excuse like “They printed it on special paper what makes teh scannerz does weird stuffs”.

  65. JPotter says:

    Reality Check: It is reasonable to infer that however that played out that Zullo blames Corsi for the race code fiasco.

    This scenario assumes a level of self-respect, moral fiber, due diligence, and plain old ethics that has never been evident in any WND / CCCP production that I’m aware.

    Zullo is faux concern in a suit that will wax sincerically about anything. Corsi just lies his freakin’ fat ass off, trying to use overdeveloped form to disguise the rickety nature of his substance.

    RanTalbott: And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

    Local Phoenix media might have some short notice of any announcement they with to make. They seem to cover these things for the entertainment value.

    No one pays attention to WND; the events they tried to hold back in 2011 were embarrassingly presented and ill-attended.

    A Question of Eligibility was only published as an ebook. Haven’t read it … it’s apparently very short.

  66. CarlOrcas says:

    RanTalbott: Oooo, I just had an idea that might really embarrass them. Did the first book come out in hardcopy? Or was it strictly an ebook?

    I thought there was a hardcopy in the beginning but don’t find any evidence of that anywhere like as a used book or that sort of thing so my guess is it was always an ebook.

    RanTalbott: And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

    All of my contacts are, like me, enjoying their golden years.

    Just to set the record straight…..no legit member of the media (major or minor) coordinates with sources on this sort of thing. That’s just not how it works. Just like Zullo vetting his “investigation” on talk radio isn’t how real cops do their jobs.

    I’d put my money on Carl Gallups spilling the beans if and when something happens.

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  68. Crustacean says:

    CarlOrcas: I’d put my money on Carl Gallups spilling the beans if and when something happens.

    Carl, do you live close enough to Sun City to attend tonight’s address by Gallups? Wouldn’t that be something!

    If you do, I’d recommend wearing a “These Colors Don’t Run!” American flag t-shirt, and maybe an NRA hat or two.

  69. CarlOrcas says:

    Crustacean: Carl, do you live close enough to Sun City to attend tonight’s address by Gallups?Wouldn’t that be something!

    If you do, I’d recommend wearing a “These Colors Don’t Run!” American flag t-shirt, and maybe an NRA hat or two.

    I’d love to but we moved out of the state when we retired three years ago.

    I’ve checked a couple of the “major media” websites in Phoenix and don’t find any mention of it as an upcoming event but that’s not surprising. What is surprising is that I don’t find any mention of it on the Sonoran News website. Hmm.

    Just checked the Surprise Tea Party website and don’t see anything about them streaming it but I bet someone in the crowd will record it and upload it.

    Any day now.

  70. Jim says:

    CarlOrcas:I’ve checked a couple of the “major media” websites in Phoenix and don’t find any mention of it as an upcoming event but that’s not surprising. What is surprising is that I don’t find any mention of it on the Sonoran News website. Hmm.

    I sent Matthew Hendley at the Phoenix New Times a link to the poster and wondered if he was going to attend. Also, gave him a link to RC’s videos and a few questions for Gallups. Hope he can make it, it would be a GREAT article!

  71. CarlOrcas says:

    Jim: I sent Matthew Hendley at the Phoenix New Times a link to the poster and wondered if he was going to attend.Also, gave him a link to RC’s videos and a few questions for Gallups.Hope he can make it, it would be a GREAT article!

    Excellent!

  72. CarlOrcas says:

    RanTalbott: And does anybody have any “major media” contacts who could give us some advance warning of when they’ll be doing The Big Reveal™?

    Late Tuesday afternoon Phoenix time and I just spotted this on lawyer Taitz’s site:

    “March 4, 2014. No earth shaking announcement from Sheriff Arpaio and Cold Case posse, which was promissed for the month of March and which was awaited for over 2 years”

    There’s a link to infowars.com but I don’t find anything there about tonight’s meeting.

    There is one comment from a regular on her site that looks like a pretty lame attempt to boost flagging morale:

    Rod Riddle
    March 4th, 2014 @ 11:35 am

    Word starting to trickle out from The Tea Party heavy hitters in Az is that Zullo hinted at a few things they have uncovered and it’s the real deal. I think we should give them till the months end.

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=447756

    Any day now…..or maybe a month….or two.

  73. RanTalbott says:

    CarlOrcas: Just to set the record straight…..no legit member of the media (major or minor) coordinates with sources on this sort of thing

    But I would think that it isn’t “coordinat[ing] with sources” if someone says “We’ll be having a news conference about our Universe-Shattering Breakthrough™ at our office sometime _around_ the 20th, and we’ll give you a heads-up as soon as we’ve set the exact date and time”.

    Said “heads-up” might not make it into non-local news, especially if the Major Media suspected it was going to be yet another yawner.

    I could be wrong, but I thought there was a credible possibility that the CCP might try to arrange things so they had media coverage without giving the Evil Obot Conspiracy a chance to come rain on their parade.

  74. Curious George says:

    Words out that fifth column operatives will me monitoring the event tonight.

  75. Daniel says:

    Curious George:
    Words out that fifth column operatives will me monitoring the event tonight.

    Do you really think Fifth Column is required? I’m think fourth or even third will be more than sufficient 😉

  76. CarlOrcas says:

    RanTalbott: But I would think that it isn’t “coordinat[ing] with sources” if someone says “We’ll be having a news conference about our Universe-Shattering Breakthrough™ at our office sometime _around_ the 20th, and we’ll give you a heads-up as soon as we’ve set the exact date and time”.

    No, that’s not coordinating…..that’s being pestered!!

    Depending on the size of the market and the station or newspaper the assignment desk or city desk could get dozens of calls a day about things happening that day and upcoming events, story ideas, etc. (That’s where I got my first exposure to wacky conspiracy theories.) The bigger markets have Daybooks that are distributed by the city wire service or, I suspect these days, via e-mail.

    Then depending on a myriad things – breaking news, work schedules, staff illnesses, etc. – the editor decides where the day’s resources are going. If a reporter has been handling an ongoing story he/she will pitch it and see if they can cover it and, in the case of TV, get someone to shoot it for them.

    In TV the time frame for this kind of thing is not good for getting it covered if there is a possibility it won’t produce a story for the late newscast. Dayside folks are probably on their way home and nightside will give breaking news priority: Late, live and local!

    Bottom line: There are lots of factors that go into what gets covered other than a reporter or editor’s personal opinions!

    RanTalbott: I could be wrong, but I thought there was a credible possibility that the CCP might try to arrange things so they had media coverage without giving the Evil Obot Conspiracy a chance to come rain on their parade.

    That would be too clever by half, in my opinion. No publicity usually results in no attendees and even less news coverage.

    Anyway it will be interesting to see what develops this evening. I’m putting my money on…….any day now.

  77. Curious George says:

    Well,well,well. A push for “major” media attention, and are you ready? More financial contributions! Money always is the solution to everything isn’t it? Here is the latest push for funds….

    https://secure.freedomdonations.com/proofpositive/cold_case_posse/?a=2135-pp

  78. Any Day Now says:

    All quiet on the birther front, except maybe steve stockman may lose his primary today and the birthers will eventually lose their one friend in congress.

    One of the weird things about the “universe-shattering” evidence claim is the need to wait to present it. If the birthers have a case why don’t they present it as fast as possible to prevent their nemesis from wreaking more havoc on the country?

    ‘Splain it to me, Doc.

  79. Arthur says:

    Daniel: Do you really think Fifth Column is required?

    Fifth? I’d settle for a Corinthian.

  80. Crustacean says:

    Curious George: Well,well,well. A push for “major” media attention, and are you ready? More financial contributions! Money always is the solution to everything isn’t it? Here is the latest push for funds….

    Is there a better way to have your voice heard and live the dream of democracy than paying someone to send a bunch of meaningless faxes? Of course not!

    So how much would YOU pay to send a fax to each and every US Congressman (sorry, ladies) and Senator? $5,000? $4,000? Well, that would be a great deal right there. But if you act (any day) NOW, we’ll throw in faxes to all 50 governors and Secretaries of State. All for the low, low usurperator-bustin’ price of $49. That’s more than HALF OFF our already bargain-basement price of $99.

    Operators are standing by, so call now while supplies last! (No, really, we have to bring the fax machine back to Best Buy before the return period ends, so don’t delay).

  81. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    JPotter: This scenario assumes a level of self-respect, moral fiber, due diligence, and plain old ethics that has never been evident in any WND / CCCP production that I’m aware.

    Corsi’s spiel has always been another swift-boating attempt. After the elections, the issue became moot for him since only the die-hard few would buy another book from him. We will see him again when Hillary runs with his latest book “Where’s the real Benghazi difference, Hillary?”.

    Just like Arpaio was only on board while he thought it might give him some leverage in his dealings with the DOJ.

    Zullo OTOH is either a “true believer” (i.e. a total conspiracy nut) or thought he’d make enough money off the birthers to buy himself a shiny new car (IOW, sums of money that Corsi wouldn’t even leave his bed for).

    The peeps over at BR speculate that “major media” might mean foreign media. So another round of “Pravda” and “EU Times” and “Russia Today” regurgitating the good old birther claims? Say it isn’t 2009 all over again!

  82. Bovril says:

    Well, it’s been and gone…so why oh why is the OMG…WTF Suprise Tea Party Great Reveal with Lyin’ Carl nowhere to be found..?

    Not at ORYR
    Not at WND
    Not at Freak Rethuglic
    Not at the Piss and Fail
    Not at Dr K(H)ates
    Not even at the Suprise Tea Party site…. 😎

    The only piece found to date, qu’elle suprise….Mad Ole Orly and that is just a

    Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING MY MONEY Me Me Me Me Me Me Me Me

    diatribe of nowt

  83. Curious George says:

    Bovril
    March 5, 2014
    Well, it’s been and gone…so why oh why is the OMG…WTF Suprise Tea Party Great Reveal with Lyin’ Carl nowhere to be found..?

    They’re all trying to figure out how to spin, “Any day now” so that it doesn’t sound like “Any day now.” 😉

  84. JPotter says:

    Bovril: Not even at the Suprise Tea Party site….

    Seems to take them 2-3 days to post a video at YouTube, when they post a video at all.

    How dry is this well that this is the biggest thing going LOL

  85. Bovril says:

    Finally found the video’s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWxEa-vXPUo

    Courtesy of Gabe Zolna

  86. Bovril says:

    Well well well…….I finish watching the first and then suddenly the videos go “private”.

    Seems Ole Gabe is watching either Doc C’s or The Fogbow and the second he saw my post has done himself some censoring………..

    Wonder why…..maybe not too flattering for the Birfoons, at least based on what I sawe, it was shaping up to be a quick rinse and repeat with the due daet being pushed back at least a month or two….. 😎

  87. CarlOrcas says:

    Bovril:
    Well well well…….I finish watching the first and then suddenly the videos go “private”.

    Seems Ole Gabe is watching either Doc C’s or The Fogbow and the second he saw my post has done himself some censoring………..

    Wonder why…..maybe not too flatteringfor the Birfoons, at least based on what I sawe, it was shaping up to be a quick rinse and repeat with the due daet being pushed back at least a month or two…..

    By the time I got there it was private.

  88. Curious George says:

    Bovril
    “Well well well…….I finish watching the first and then suddenly the videos go “private”.

    Well, well, well. A so called Sheriff’s investigation using public funds. A volunteer posse member putting a copyright on evidence. A group of patriots censoring the truth for their own private members. The chorus of orchestrated any day announcements about UNIVERSE SHATTERING evidence and nothing happens. A county attorney that calls their evidence “speculation.” And finally, the childish approach of “I know something you don’t know”
    should send out the alarm.

    What’s wrong with this picture?

  89. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: What’s wrong with this picture?

    Everything.

    Next question?

  90. Bovril says:

    For completeness, a quick summary of the video’s 9 minutes…..

    The video kicked off with a some warm up man, praising the giant floating head that was the projection of Lying Carl participating via a Skype video conference link.

    The video by Gabe Zolna was a video of the video projection of the Skype video call with the by now traditional periodic bystander wandering past in front of Gabes video camera.

    First 2 odd minutes was the warm up man praising “Pastor” Gallups how wonderful he is and how he would be talking about his TWO books and the Ebil Obama and the investigamation.

    At one point obvious bandwidth contention caused the video link to change quality and contrast for a couple of seconds, Enter obligatory “It’s the NSA” shout to loud albeit a little nervous laughter.

    Lying Carl then start his usual oleaginous, self promoting, saccharine sweet, passive aggressive spiel. Talking points

    Lying Carl is Zullo’s pastor, they pray together (whether regular, irregular, by phone, in person or whatever was not made particularly clear)

    He and Zullo are joined at the hip, “We went to C-PAC together etc.”

    There are not one but TWO investigations one being led by Piehole and the MCSO “Even though I have never actually met the good sherrif and can’t talk for him”, (paraphrase but the content)

    It’s all Bigger, Better, Broader, Deeper etc

    The March date is not really the date, may be April or even May, blames Obots in a generic way

    “as ex-law enfoprcement myself” then general BS nonsense about investigamationing.

    Gabe then puts the video’s into “private” mode and there’s all she wrote.

    Based on the naming convention of the video’s, “One of five” at 09:06 minutes length, “Two of five”, at 09:20 length and a comment from BR/ORYR it seems there is a total of 50’ish minutes of this blather

  91. Egipcios says:

    If Carl is getting paid from the book royalties from the MCSO/CCP/STP, he is clearly the smartest one in the (virtual) room.

  92. bud cauldron says:

    Ive personally run the “official WH” birth cert thru Photoshop, Illustrator and other layer revealing digital software. Without a doubt its a 100% fake document, and reveals all its digital flaws and histories on layers digitally. It was 100% created digitally, and I don’t think Photoshop was around in 1961…do you? The entire issue is fishy at best…Fake birth cert, fake SS#….sealed records on College records? Only those hiding something would do this…The entire thing stinks….

  93. Of course the birth certificate is digitally created. It was scanned on an office machine that digitized it, and converted it to PDF format (a digital format).

    Do you think that ALL digital documents are forgeries?

    Your problem is that you’re not competent to tell the difference between a faked digital document and a normal one. Normal documents have layers, something trivially demonstrated by just looking at documents or scanning something. Objections such yours were exposed as wrong years ago.

    Look, if you don’t clue, you shouldn’t clog up the Internet with your comments.

    bud cauldron: Ive personally run the “official WH” birth cert thru Photoshop, Illustrator and other layer revealing digital software. Without a doubt its a 100% fake document,

  94. Bovril says:

    Buddie,

    You might want to go over to the Hawai’i Dept of Health site where they state, plainly and on the record that the image of the BC, hosted on the White Hiouse server is accurate.

    Or you might want to email the Secretary’s of State of Arizona and Kansas and ask for a copy of the confirmation letter from the HDoH they both received that confiormas all the details of the BC.

    You see, it’s a matter of the INFORMATION, not the format and the information has been multiuply confirmed by the Constitutionally accepted holders of record

    Off you trot now, there’s a good little idiot

  95. Thomas Brown says:

    Bud, there’s a formal name for the logical fallacy you are suffering under. It’s called an “ad ignorantium” fallacy. In short, it goes “I don’t understand it, so it must be wrong.”

    Everything you say above is a lie. All of Obama’s documentation has been verified Constitutionally. If you continue to repeat this garbage, YOU are what’s wrong with America.

  96. Majority Will says:

    bud cauldron: Ive personally run the “official WH” birth cert thru Photoshop, Illustrator and other layer revealing digital software.

    That’s really stupid and what an incredible waste of time.

    The president’s name, place of birth and date of birth match what the legal authority of the state of Hawaii says it has on file.

    “Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.”

    Article IV, Section 1 of the United States Constitution

    Fake birth cert, – debunked
    fake SS#…. – debunked
    sealed records on College records – debunked

    In these cases, where there is smoke, there are smoke machines. The smoke has been generated by unAmerican, delusional and bigoted birthers who are openly political enemies of the President of the United States.

  97. JPotter says:

    bud cauldron:
    Ive personally run the “official WH” birth cert thru Photoshop, Illustrator and other layer revealing digital software. Without a doubt its a100% fake document, and reveals all its digital flaws and histories on layers digitally. It was 100% created digitally, and I don’t think Photoshop was around in 1961…do you? The entire issue is fishy at best…Fake birth cert, fake SS#….sealed records on College records? Only those hiding something would do this…The entire thing stinks….

    Demonstrated for the billionth time: mind viruses persist. Once loosed, they will continue to infect new victims.

    Thankfully, better information also persists, and will continue to innoculate and inform.

    Looking back, it did take a ridiculously long time IMO to explain the concerns of PDF Madness. But that’s hindsight. There was such an enormous amount of “Yougottabefriggin’kiddin’me” to get over.

  98. Thinker says:

    Thomas: In your conversation with Brian Reilly, you made a point about the danger of spreading RWNJ lies by mentioning an incident where a guy shot some police officers after believing BS wingnut lies about Obama’s gun confiscation squads. Can you provide a link for that story?

    Thomas Brown:
    Everything you say above is a lie.All of Obama’s documentation has been verified Constitutionally.If you continue to repeat this garbage, YOU are what’s wrong with America.

  99. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    JPotter: mind viruses persist. Once loosed, they will continue to infect new victims

    I’m just about to finish reading Snow Crash.

  100. RanTalbott says:

    bud cauldron: Ive personally run the “official WH” birth cert thru Photoshop, Illustrator and other layer revealing digital software

    No, you have not.

    There is no such thing as “the ‘official WH’ birth cert”.

    Barack Obama has “official birth certs”, in the form of certified copies provided by the State of Hawaii.

    What the White House has, and what you WASTED your time “analyzing”, is A PICTURE OF one of those certified copies. It is not a “document” (except in the computer jargon sense of the word). It has no more significance, or evidentiary value, than a vacation snapshot.

    “The entire thing stinks….”

    Yes, it does. And the fact that you are unable to smell the stench of all the LIES you’ve just mindlessly regurgitated, or to tell the difference between “a document” and “a picture of a document”, is part of a national tragedy.

  101. JPotter says:

    The Magic M (not logged in): I’m just about to finish reading Snow Crash.

    Y’know, I still haven’t gotten to that one. Is it as great as most people say it is? If so, thanks for the reminder!

  102. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    JPotter: Is it as great as most people say it is?

    I haven’t read anything else from Stephenson (I must admit I haven’t even read seminal genre works like Neuromancer, I’m just getting started with the Cyberpunk stuff), so I can’t compare it to his other works.
    By itself, I like it a lot (I’m reading the German translation which is a little awkward in some places, e.g. it doesn’t translate “union” properly and some figures of speech literally).
    The world he describes is one I would love to have more novels play in.
    (And amazing to think it was written in 1992, I first thought it was much newer.)

    So yes, I definitely recommend it.

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