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The additional open thread: What light from yonder tunnel breaks?

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80 Responses to The additional open thread: What light from yonder tunnel breaks?

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    Dr. Conspiracy October 19, 2019 at 1:25 am  (Quote) #

    I keep wondering if there is some particular website where the president gets his conspiracy theories, this latest one about the owner of CrowdStrike being Ukrainian.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/why-trump-asked-ukraines-president-about-crowdstrike/2019/10/17/e61d54c2-f12b-11e9-bb7e-d2026ee0c199_story.html

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    gorefan October 21, 2019 at 2:19 pm  (Quote) #

    Back in 2012, you posted an article on a book by Teddy Roosevelt that had a chapter on dual nationality

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/10/teddy-roosevelt-on-dual-nationality/

    Roosevelt knew Chester Arthur had dual citizenship which was supposedly a secret until Leo Donofrio found it in 2008.

    But there was another point that appears to have been overlooked at the time. Roosevelt writes of the case of P.A. Lelong Jr. who was born in New Orleans in 1881 to an alien (French national) father, who only naturalized in 1911.

    Roosevelt writes this about Lelong Jr., “He is eligible to the Presidency of the United States.”

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    Reality Check October 22, 2019 at 11:21 am  (Quote) #

    President Arthur’s father’s British citizenship seems to be one of the worst kept secrets in history. 😆

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    Reality Check October 29, 2019 at 10:03 am  (Quote) #

    [Rambo] Ike showed up in the comments on my latest article. He is still trying to claim Lupin’s translation of “parens” in de Vattel is wrong.

    https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/for-the-thousandth-time-anyone-born-on-us-soil-under-the-jurisdiction-of-the-united-states-is-a-natural-born-citizen-period/

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    Reality Check October 29, 2019 at 10:21 am  (Quote) #

    I can’t read the article because the WaPo’s nag window asking me to turn of Ad Blocker blocks the window where I could turn off Ad Blocker. Screw them.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I keep wondering if there is some particular website where the president gets his conspiracy theories, this latest one about the owner of CrowdStrike being Ukrainian.

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    gorefan October 31, 2019 at 10:04 pm  (Quote) #

    Mike Zullo discussing Montgomery. A little bit on the birth certificate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1704&v=U37dgND8LE0

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    Nancy "Zodiac" Owens November 1, 2019 at 11:07 am  (Quote) #

    Mike Zullo in panic mode. They succeeded with the “Monica Lewinsky” fiasco and thought that they would get away with it again. Somebody, or somebodies, were prepared this time and planned accordingly. My guess, UN.
    gorefan: Mike Zullo discussing Montgomery. A little bit on the birth certificate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1704&v=U37dgND8LE0

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    Reality Check November 5, 2019 at 12:26 pm  (Quote) #

    Sharon Rondeau investigative journalist? 😆 😆 😆 😆

    I love her couch.

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    Reality Check November 5, 2019 at 4:44 pm  (Quote) #

    I listened to as much as I could stomach. I wish someone had asked Zullo how much investigation they did into Dennis Montgomery’s background before the MCSO started working with him and throwing money his way. I think the Aram Roston’s Playboy article on Montgomery being a con man was published in 2010.

    gorefan:
    Mike Zullo discussing Montgomery.A little bit on the birth certificate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1704&v=U37dgND8LE0

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 6, 2019 at 9:37 am  (Quote) #

    Curious image found on the web. 😯

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    Rickey November 14, 2019 at 9:33 pm  (Quote) #

    While no one was paying attention, back in February of this year Christopher Earl Strunk filed another mostly incomprehensible lawsuit in the Northern District of New York against multiple defendants (Strunk v. The State of New York, et al., 1:19-CV-202). Among other things, Strunk’s 56-page Complaint alleges that there was a conspiracy to enact New York’s Reproductive Health Act.

    1. He claimed the DNC pushed for expedited passage of the law out of fear that Ruth Bader Ginsburg would die and be replaced by a pro-life justice.

    2. He claimed that Planned Parenthood wanted to pass the law because it stood to profit from “the sale of mature fetal body parts and fluids” and that the defendants were using “crypto currency” to launder funds offshore.

    3. He also accused the defendants of aiding and abetting an “ongoing illegal alien invasion” and for some reason he invoked the name of Benito Mussolini.

    4. He argued that the addition of fluoride to the water supply “diminishes user IQ” and causes residents to be dependent on government.

    5. He complained that “permissive use of Microwave communications 4G / 5G poses a health and safety risk . . . in that the electromagnetic frequencies in our body coexist in a complex manner and interact with each other nonstop” and that “mobile phones, Wi-Fi routers, etc., create fatigue, sleep problems and imbalance to the body.” He referred to this as “massive wireless densification.”

    6. He also claimed the the government has been “flooding towns and cities with inmates from psychiatric facilities.”

    The Court’s decision dismissing the case includes a review of Strunk’s many prior failures to file a successful lawsuit, and concludes that “Strunk’s complaint—which juxtaposes some kind of general harm to New York residents from fluoridated water and microwave radiation with a passing attempt to vindicate fetal rights under the umbrella of a federal civil conspiracy statute—appears to be both factually and legally frivolous.”

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    Reality Check November 23, 2019 at 2:13 pm  (Quote) #

    Leave it to Strunkie to come up with a big pile of craziness. We know New York has it’s share of loons. Besides Strunk there are Christopher Laity, and that crazy sov cit John Darash/Vidurek. Strunk probably leads the pack however.

    As I recall Strunk had a teenage son back around 2012 when he was filing his ballot challenge nonsense. I hope the kid was able to get away.

    Rickey: While no one was paying attention, back in February of this year Christopher Earl Strunk filed another mostly incomprehensible lawsuit in the Northern District of New York against multiple defendants (Strunk v. The State of New York, et al., 1:19-CV-202). Among other things, Strunk’s 56-page Complaint alleges that there was a conspiracy to enact New York’s Reproductive Health Act.

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    Dr. Conspiracy November 25, 2019 at 8:00 am  (Quote) #

    The Hawaii Department of Health Obama FAQ link has gone bad. Here it is at Wayback:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20190124041115/https://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

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    Rickey November 29, 2019 at 5:54 pm  (Quote) #

    Reality Check: Leave it to Strunkie to come up with a big pile of craziness. We know New York has it’s share of loons. Besides Strunk there are Christopher Laity, and that crazy sov cit John Darash/Vidurek. Strunk probably leads the pack however.

    As I recall Strunk had a teenage son back around 2012 when he was filing his ballot challenge nonsense. I hope the kid was able to get away.

    One thing that Strunk has in common with Cody Robert Judy is that neither ever learned a thing from their respective legal failures.

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 9, 2019 at 7:37 pm  (Quote) #

    Older versions of this site had Good, Bad, Ugly links to sites with birther content. Many of the links have gone bad, and the feature was removed from the site some time ago. I decided to put that content on a page (linked under the Features menu) for historical reference. Here is the direct link:

    https://www.obamaconspiracy.org/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

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    gorefan December 14, 2019 at 11:18 am  (Quote) #

    For anyone still interested here is another 1959 Hawaiian birth certificate.

    https://curioustanuki.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/picture1-1.png

    And the website:

    https://tanuki2016.com/2018/10/04/my-myouji/

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 16, 2019 at 6:50 pm  (Quote) #

    Joe Arpaio is running for sheriff of Maricopa County again. (Old news)

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    Reality Check December 25, 2019 at 2:49 pm  (Quote) #

    Jerry Sheridan, Joe’s former deputy, is also running as a Republican. I suspect he will be favored over Joe to win the primary.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Joe Arpaio is running for sheriff of Maricopa County again. (Old news)

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    Dr. Conspiracy December 30, 2019 at 10:11 am  (Quote) #
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    Dr. Conspiracy January 4, 2020 at 9:21 am  (Quote) #

    Yes folks, your favorite birther Joe Arpaio is writing a book, including material on the birth certificate investigation:

    https://www.fhtimes.com/news/local_news/arpaio-announces-new-book-deal/article_63a3cb20-25b0-11ea-8e86-031383169858.html

    Co-author David Thomas Roberts wrote:

    The details behind the stories that made Sheriff Joe famous, such as the tent city jail and the Obama birth certificate controversy, promise to make this a page-turner no matter your political ideologies. A book could be written on its own about the politically-charged contempt of court misdemeanor and the subsequent presidential pardon by his friend, President Donald Trump.

    H/t to Brian Reilly.

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    Reality Check January 9, 2020 at 10:04 am  (Quote) #

    That should be a real page turner. 😆

    I have never heard of the publisher:

    Defiance Press is a Texas-based independent, conservative-leaning book publisher of fiction, political, business and non-fiction titles through various imprints.

    How much would anyone care to bet there is nothing new on the birth certificate investigation and it is just Zullo’s recycled poop?

    Dr. Conspiracy: Yes folks, your favorite birther Joe Arpaio is writing a book, including material on the birth certificate investigation:

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    Reality Check January 18, 2020 at 3:54 pm  (Quote) #

    I am bringing back RC Radio for a brief run. I scheduled a show Monday evening at 9 PM ET.
    https://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2020/01/21/reality-check-radio–the-impeachment-trial-of-donald-trump

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    gorefan February 19, 2020 at 12:56 pm  (Quote) #
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    Reality Check February 25, 2020 at 2:57 pm  (Quote) #

    This is such big news that Rondeau has devoted 3 long articles to it. Zullo says he waiting for the right time and the right group to release his super secret evidence. He is afraid if he releases it now the evil Obots will rip it to shreds.

    gorefan:
    Zullo and Gallups are fighting over ownership of birthers.

    https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/02/18/missing-from-obama-birth-certificate-chapter-mike-zullo/

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    Dr. Conspiracy February 27, 2020 at 7:51 am  (Quote) #

    Montgomery Blair Sibley in the news in a 2nd Amendment vs 1st Amendment lawsuit.

    https://www.the-leader.com/news/20200123/second-amendment-reargument-petition-to-be-made

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    Reality Check March 9, 2020 at 7:06 pm  (Quote) #

    I am still impressed that back in the day Doc C used to crank out an article a day or more on this blog. They were always well researched and well written. I cannot overestimate what an effort that was. I hope Doc and Mrs. C. are doing well and enjoying life. Thanks again for keeping the blog open. I refer to it often.

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    Reality Check March 9, 2020 at 7:09 pm  (Quote) #

    I could not let the big divorce go without a comment or two.

    https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/mike-zullo-and-carl-gallups-are-getting-divorced/

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2020 at 1:29 pm  (Quote) #

    Thanks, Richard.

    I spent a lot of time, but it was worth it.

    Reality Check:
    I am still impressed that back in the day Doc C used to crank out an article a day or more on this blog. They were always well researched and well written. I cannot overestimate what an effort that was. I hope Doc and Mrs. C. are doing well and enjoying life. Thanks again for keeping the blog open. I refer to it often.

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    Dr. Conspiracy March 29, 2020 at 1:31 pm  (Quote) #

    I missed this story from last Summer about high-level talks in Washington on Obama’s birth certificate.

    https://www.thepostemail.com/2019/06/03/gallups-high-level-meetings-taking-place-in-washington-on-obama-birth-certificate/

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    Northland10 March 30, 2020 at 8:33 am  (Quote) #

    Reality Check:
    I am still impressed that back in the day Doc C used to crank out an article a day or more on this blog. They were always well researched and well written. I cannot overestimate what an effort that was. I hope Doc and Mrs. C. are doing well and enjoying life. Thanks again for keeping the blog open. I refer to it often.

    Yeah, that. I also come back to refer to things. I also have kept the comment thread on my newsreader to catch various comments.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I missed this story from last Summer about high-level talks in Washington on Obama’s birth certificate.

    https://www.thepostemail.com/2019/06/03/gallups-high-level-meetings-taking-place-in-washington-on-obama-birth-certificate/

    Too bad about the Gallups v Zullo divorce. They were sooooo close to “any day now.”

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    Rickey April 3, 2020 at 2:24 am  (Quote) #

    Bither Wayne Allyn Root has been spanked for hawking alkaline silver as a cure for the coronavirus.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/new-york-ag-calls-newsmaxs-wayne-allyn-root-cease-and-desist-making-misleading

    Stay safe, everyone!

  32. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy April 15, 2020 at 10:41 am  (Quote) #

    Taitz wins appeal in 9th Circuit in Ostella v Taitz

    http://www.metnews.com/articles/2020/taitz041320.htm

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 15, 2020 at 10:44 am  (Quote) #

    The Fogbow is holding virtual meetups weekly on Zoom. Check w/foggy for connection details.

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    Reality Check April 28, 2020 at 10:36 pm  (Quote) #

    I loved your video background tonight.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The Fogbow is holding virtual meetups weekly on Zoom. Check w/foggy for connection details.

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    Dr. Conspiracy April 30, 2020 at 8:31 am  (Quote) #

    John Woodman has published his “The Final Forensic Analysis of Obama’s Birth Certificate” at his website,

    ObamaBirthBook

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    John M. Woodman April 30, 2020 at 10:27 pm  (Quote) #

    Thanks for mentioning this.

    I’ve changed the title to, “The Final Word on Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate.”

    Part 1 is up. Still working on Part 2.

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    Rickey May 3, 2020 at 12:36 am  (Quote) #

    I haven’t been to Orly’s website in ages, but a brief look reveals that she is now touting hydroxychloroquine as a cure for Covid-19.

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    Reality Check May 3, 2020 at 8:23 pm  (Quote) #

    Yes, that’s because her hero Trump mentioned it. Science and facts be damned.

    I notice Trump is no longer pushing this treatment. I guess Orly hasn’t gotten the word.

    Rickey:
    I haven’t been to Orly’s website in ages, but a brief look reveals that she is now touting hydroxychloroquine as a cure for Covid-19.

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    Reality Check May 3, 2020 at 8:27 pm  (Quote) #

    Do you folks remember Karl Deninger? He was one of the self proclaimed Birther experts who came out with a video “proving” Obama’s long form birth certificate was a forgery.

    I found him on Twitter. He is a raving lunatic.

    https://twitter.com/tickerguy

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 7, 2020 at 6:02 pm  (Quote) #

    I’m getting 504 Gateway Timeouts

    John M. Woodman:
    Thanks for mentioning this.

    I’ve changed the title to, “The Final Word on Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate.”

    Part 1 is up. Still working on Part 2.

  41. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy May 7, 2020 at 6:12 pm  (Quote) #

    I have turned off Gravatar user avatars for the site for security reasons. Only commenters with accounts that uploaded an avatar will show. If you’re interested in uploading one, let me know.

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    Northland10 May 8, 2020 at 8:56 am  (Quote) #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I have turned off Gravatar user avatars for the site for security reasons. Only commenters with accounts that uploaded an avatar will show. If you’re interested in uploading one, let me know.

    Oh No!!!!! It does make sense though.

    ETA, mine is still around because of magic. 😉

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 13, 2020 at 4:56 pm  (Quote) #

    I have updated the site Resources page to include links to John Woodman’s FInal Word on Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate series.

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/resources/

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 13, 2020 at 5:08 pm  (Quote) #

    gorefan: Roosevelt knew Chester Arthur had dual citizenship which was supposedly a secret until Leo Donofrio found it in 2008.

    I don’t think I ever mentioned on this site that I made a public domain audiobook of A. P. Hinman’s contemporary work about Arthur’s eligibility: How a British Subject became President of the United States.

    https://librivox.org/how-a-british-subject-became-president-of-the-united-states-by-arthur-p-hinman/

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 13, 2020 at 8:29 pm  (Quote) #

    Performance on the site has been an ongoing issue since I was forced to change web hosts a few years back. It’s a lot worse on the admin side than the user side, but even users not logged in get 6 second response accessing a page on a fast internet connection.

    Today I started trying to unravel the problem and I found that simply removing the well regarded caching plugin actually sped up things a little. Then I installed a new plugin called Comet Cache, and the improvement if you hit a previously visited page is stunning. I don’t know how much improvement logged in users get, as most commenters are logged in, but when not logged in I’m seeing pages fetched in a second.

    What surprised me was to look at the cache itself, the pages that are cached. In just a few minutes, all over the site there are pages being accessed, stuff from 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2014. What is somewhat scary is that it appears that there are hacking attempts, for example someone trying to access the login script from a non-existent directory, admin001 (and a dozen other fictional directories).

    In any case, I use defensive plugins against attacks, and my password is very long and very random. Even I don’t know what it is.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 30, 2020 at 7:04 pm  (Quote) #

    Here’s a flash from the past I found on Twitter:

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    Dr. Conspiracy June 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm  (Quote) #

    I had not appreciated how deeply Donald Trump was into birtherism in 2012. I have decided to add some content on that to the blog, under the Feature menu:

    Donald Trump’s Birther Tweets

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 8, 2020 at 8:29 pm  (Quote) #

    I’ve increased the font size on articles to be more in line with websites like the Post and the Times.

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 20, 2020 at 3:51 pm  (Quote) #

    I don’t think I have ever posted this link before, but it goes to proto-Dr. Conspiracy writing on my personal blog:

    https://www.blogordie.com/category/politics/ocd/

    OCD refers to the term I used “obama citizen denial.”

    Most of my early writing on this topic was a forum named Political Crossfire, which has been reconstituted without the older material. The Wayback Machine doesn’t follow the forum threads. Here’s a taste of their content, but not anything I wrote:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20101130121458/http://politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133994

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    gorefan July 21, 2020 at 6:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Case in Utah where citizenship, Wong Kim Ark are prominent.

    Could make it’s way to Supreme Court as the ruling is in conflict with previous court rulings on American Samoa US nationals.

    https://casetext.com/case/fitisemanu-v-united-states

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    Dr. Conspiracy July 29, 2020 at 11:43 am  (Quote) #

    I always agreed with Arizona TEA Party birther Jeff Lichter that Donald Trump was a major factor in the popularity of birtherism. But I noticed today that a Public Policy Polling result in early February of 2011 said that 51% of Republicans thought Obama was born in Kenya. That is exactly the same number making a similar response in a YouGov survey in December of 2017.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-birther-obama-poll-republicans-kenya-744195
    https://www.politico.com/story/2011/02/51-of-gop-voters-obama-foreign-049554

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 4, 2020 at 11:36 am  (Quote) #

    Happy Birthday, President Obama!

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 12, 2020 at 5:01 pm  (Quote) #

    I was unable to find any link to Einer Elhauge’s paper arguing that Ted Cruz was not eligible to run for president, so I include it here:

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2748863

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    ScottRS August 13, 2020 at 9:13 am  (Quote) #

    Y’all will be shocked, shocked I say, to learn that some hack from the 124th best law school ever says that Kamala Harris’ eligibility to be president “…[it] depends.” Worth noting, too, that the same hack wrote a similarly florid treatise on how “Ted” Cruz was perfectly eligible.

    https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483

    But “Ted” Cruz is just hunky dory:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizenship-eligibility-president/

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 13, 2020 at 9:26 pm  (Quote) #

    ScottRS: Y’all will be shocked, shocked I say, to learn that some hack from the 124th best law school ever says that Kamala Harris’ eligibility to be president

    Yes the Harris birthers have arrived. President Trump even mentioned the Newsweek article in a press briefing today. I have comments posted on the story, and our old friend David Farrar showed up.

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    Reality Check August 14, 2020 at 9:55 am  (Quote) #

    Farrar showed up in the comments on Eugene Volokh’s article at Reason.com too.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Yes the Harris birthers have arrived. President Trump even mentioned the Newsweek article in a press briefing today. I have comments posted on the story, and our old friend David Farrar showed up.

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 14, 2020 at 10:11 pm  (Quote) #
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    Dr. Conspiracy August 14, 2020 at 10:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Prof. John Eastman Quote of the day:

    Every four years, as the presidential campaigns start kicking into high gear for the Iowa caucuses and early primaries in New Hampshire, South Carolina, and beyond, some partisans begin feeling desperate about their candidate’s prospects. We then see a flurry of half-truths, distortions of the historical record, and downright silly claims. The latest charge against Senator Ted Cruz falls into that latter category.

    The charge, first pushed by Donald Trump, is that because Senator Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a natural-born citizen and therefore ineligible for the office of president.

    Senator Ted Cruz Is Eligible to Be President

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    y_p_w August 15, 2020 at 4:47 pm  (Quote) #

    I thought that I might check in since it’s been a while. I thought maybe someone would have brought this up and birthers don’t disappoint.

    In the years of monitoring birtherism I learned more about certified birth certificates than anyone really needs to know. There have been so many fights over who can or can’t obtain a certified copy. There are at least two states (Ohio and Washington – possibly more) where anyone can obtain an unrestricted certified birth certificate copy with enough information. I’ve seen one person (on the Post & Email) claim to have obtained a copy of Elanor Darragh’s birth certificate from Delaware, and not just the ancient certified copy that Ted Cruz’s campaign scanned and released to Breitbart. It was on fairly modern banknote paper.

    But that brings us to Kamala Harris and her birth certificate. I’ve noted before that California stopped allowing anyone to order an unrestricted copy of birth certificates after someone used one for someone else to establish an identity. They still allow anyone off the street to obtain a certified copy, but without an authorized relationship to the named person, only an “informational” copy (with an overlay that it’s not valid to establish identity) can be obtained. I’ve seen several example images of California vital records of that type, including of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes’s child, Prince Albert’s (of Monaco) child, Michael Jackson’s death certificate, Jahi McMath’s death certificate, and Richard Nixon’s court ordered birth certificate (filed at age 29).

    If anyone is interested, an informational copy of Kamala Harris’s birth certificate can be ordered from the Alameda County Clerk, and optionally ordered from the California Department of Public Health. Not that it would change the crazies claiming that there’s a two US citizen parent requirement to be a natural born citizen but it’s going to be easier to obtain one than it was in Hawaii.

    Also – I saw something that said that California’s state-issued certified vital record copies no longer get an embossed seal as of 2013. Not sure what they do now, as I ordered my kid’s birth certificates from the state in 2011. I would think that they would at least have one of the seals required by the State Department for passport issuance – maybe a hologram seal? The copies I got had some of the weakest seals I’ve ever seen. They were barely visible although I was still able to order a passport. I have a copy from the county that’s extremely detailed and even broke through the paper.

    http://www.avss.ucsb.edu/MANUALS/Handbook.pdf
    “Effective November 1, 2013, CDPH-VR discontinued embossing certified copies of birth, death, fetal death and marriage records.”

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 15, 2020 at 5:34 pm  (Quote) #

    Yes, California is one on sevel “open records states.” The “:Authorized Copy” us the only one good for a passport.

    To get a authorized copy you have to swear that you are authorized and have your application notarized. You must provide ID to the notary, or if you are personally known to the notary and bring someone else with ID who will confirm who you are, or if you bring two people with ID who will confirm that they know you.

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    Dr. Conspiracy August 15, 2020 at 5:35 pm  (Quote) #

    I’ve written an article, Who was the first birther? at Quora.

    https://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-first-birther/answer/Kevin-Davidson-9

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    y_p_w August 15, 2020 at 6:03 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Dr. Conspiracy August 15, 2020 at 5:34 pm  (Quote) #
    Yes, California is one on sevel “open records states.” The “:Authorized Copy” us the only one good for a passport.

    To get a authorized copy you have to swear that you are authorized and have your application notarized. You must provide ID to the notary, or if you are personally known to the notary and bring someone else with ID who will confirm who you are, or if you bring two people with ID who will confirm that they know you.

    Just as someone who has done this, there are a few different ways to get this. An application submitted in person doesn’t require a notarized application to receive an “authorized” copy of a vital record. I’ve gone in person to order copies of our marriage license and my child’s birth certificate, and each time a clerk would check my ID and write down the number on the form, as well as check my attestation of being an authorized requestor.

    It is required to get a copy through the mail. The copies I got for our child from the California Dept of Public Health could only be ordered remotely as they don’t have a “public desk”. I was just kind of curious and ordered them anyways just to see how it was different from the county’s version. I spent too much time on birther stuff so birth certificates fascinated me. I had to get the application notarized, which isn’t great in California since the maximum notary fee is $10, where pretty much every notary charges $10 unless it’s attached to another purpose (I had a loan officer notarize our loan documents for free).

    It’s certainly not like Hawaii (or other states) where one can just make a photocopy of an ID (or perhaps a scan in some states with online applications) and submit it with the application.

    VitalChek verifies authorized status in some weird way. They claim they use some sort of “online identity verification” although I can’t find out what it is without giving them my credit card information first. But their service fee is more than a $10 notary fee.

  63. avatar
    Rickey August 16, 2020 at 12:06 am  (Quote) #

    Newsweek has apologized for the piece, rather disingenuously claiming that they had no idea that racists would seize upon it.

    https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483

  64. avatar
    y_p_w August 18, 2020 at 1:25 pm  (Quote) #

    There are at least partial copies of Kamala Harris’s birth certificate circulating online. Not sure why, but many have certain parts blacked out even though those would normally be considered public information. I don’t see any marking that say “informational copy”, but most of these center on the information and that could be on a larger sheet. Some versions I’ve seen (like Jon Hunstman Jr. or Suri Cruise) seem to have the “legend” printed right into the security paper or maybe placed by the same software that prints out the birth certificate info, but the copies I’ve seen of Jahi McMath’s Alameda County death certificate have the message on a separate rubber stamp.

    Here’s Huntsman’s birth certificate:

    https://imgur.com/4wC4Z

    I’ve seen copies of Michael Jackson’s birth certificate, and they had stuff that was redacted. But it was clearly confidential information like a Social Security number. Not sure why some names of public officials were redacted.

  65. avatar
    y_p_w August 18, 2020 at 3:51 pm  (Quote) #

    OK. Found one pretty good complete copy of Kamala Harris’s birth certificate from the Bay Area News Group. It’s linked in articles from the East Bay Times and San Jose Mercury News.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/472773880/Kamala-Harris-birth-certificate-is-clear-she-is-eligible-for-VP-position

    All the signatures were mostly blacked out although it’s possible to sort of make out what they look like. It was also amended (second sheet) where her middle name was corrected to “Devi” from “Iyer”. If there’s an embossed seal it’s not terribly visible on the scan. I’ve got one vital record for a family member from Alameda County, and the seal is sharp, although it also tore a little through the paper. Both pages are rubber stamped as being informational copies. Each banknote sheet has a serial number and barcode, and they’re consecutive numbers.

  66. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy August 20, 2020 at 6:26 pm  (Quote) #

    Former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach advised those indicated in the “We Build the Wall” scam.

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245106375.html

  67. avatar
    Reality Check August 21, 2020 at 6:21 pm  (Quote) #

    Kobach has not been indicted yet. Kobach served as general legal counsel. Apparently he gave crappy advice.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach indicated in the “We Build the Wall” scam.

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245106375.html

  68. avatar
    y_p_w August 22, 2020 at 2:34 pm  (Quote) #

    Reality Check: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245106375.html

    To be fair, Dr. C did say “indicated”, as in he was pointed out as their general counsel.

  69. avatar
    Reality Check August 23, 2020 at 1:04 pm  (Quote) #

    Yes, I misread that as “indicted”. The “a” is silent. 😆

    y_p_w: To be fair, Dr. C did say “indicated”, as in he was pointed out as their general counsel.

  70. avatar
    Reality Check August 23, 2020 at 2:27 pm  (Quote) #

    We were both correct. 😉

  71. avatar
    joyeagle3 August 29, 2020 at 5:17 pm  (Quote) #

    WWG1WGA! 🙂

  72. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 3, 2020 at 8:08 am  (Quote) #

    I ran across this piece in the Washington Post from 2016, titled “Finally. Someone who thinks like me.” It’s the profile of a birther who had a forced stay in a hospital for psychiatric reasons. She got out and found her place, at a Trump rally.

  73. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 3, 2020 at 8:13 am  (Quote) #

    Reality Check:
    Kobach has not been indicted yet. Kobach served as general legal counsel. Apparently he gave crappy advice.

    Fixed.

  74. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 12, 2020 at 5:24 pm  (Quote) #

    Robert C. Laity files Harris birther lawsuit in DC:

    https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq2lAjHK_grOho1J-O4nTtFieqX5mA?e=6AIUQx

  75. avatar
    Rickey September 15, 2020 at 1:43 am  (Quote) #

    This strange. Back in 2016 someone questioned what Obama’s birth certificate would have said if he was born in a vehicle on the way to a hospital.. I seem to recall that some birther theorized that his mother flew back from Kenya in order to give birth in Hawaii but gave birth before arriving. She then supposedly drove him to the hospital and claimed that he had been born enroute. I emailed Hawaii DOH and asked how they would handle that because I couldn’t find anything on the DOH website. I never received a reply and I forgot about it. Today, nearly four years later, they responded! The answer clarifies that they would not have listed the hospital as his place of birth.

    Date: Sep 14, 2020 10:17 PM

    Aloha Richard,

    I spoke with the Registration Supervisor and he advised that they could list it as “En Route to hospital name”, the location they gave birth, or the facility name.

    Best,

    Jamie

    Dept. of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring
    1250 Punchbowl Street, Room 123
    Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

  76. avatar
    Rickey September 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm  (Quote) #

    I see that Laity still doesn’t comprehend what treason is.

  77. avatar
    Northland10 September 15, 2020 at 8:38 pm  (Quote) #

    Rickey:
    I see that Laity still doesn’t comprehend what treason is.

    His comprehension is lacking on a great deal of things.

  78. avatar
    gorefan September 23, 2020 at 11:53 pm  (Quote) #

    Oral arguments before the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals the case of Fitisemanu v. United States 20-4017

    https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/oralargument/search/recent

    Discussion of Wong Kim Ark and birthright citizenship for people of American Samoa.

  79. avatar
    Reality Check September 26, 2020 at 12:23 pm  (Quote) #

    He also does not comprehend that the president is not subject to the articles of the UCMJ.

    Northland10: His comprehension is lacking on a great deal of things.

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