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Recent Comments
- The return of the Taitz (342)
- nbC: “Who the h–l is this man whose past nobody knows anything about and who won’t release any of his personal...
- nbC: Slamdunk: QW is not an instrument of removal from office but is a right under under the 9th amendment It is...
- SFJeff: “Who the h–l is this man whose past nobody knows anything about and who won’t release any of his...
- ballantine: dunstvangeet: Exactly.And if their goal was to define “Natural Born Citizenship” then why did they limit...
- dunstvangeet: Exactly. And if their goal was to define “Natural Born Citizenship” then why did they limit...
- nbC: The fact that the Founders found it necessary to enact the 1790 act to provide natural born citizenship status...
- ballantine: Your rely makes no sense at all. The act does not define natural born citizen, it bestows such status on...
- Attorney Taitz appeals for UN protection (32)
- Bovril: Yesssss Ima Muppet, the wicked Interpol…. Those changes actually put it on the same level as the office...
- Dr. Conspiracy: The birthers have declared war on Obama, so his ignoring them is a “war crime.”
- Scientist: If what Orly says is true, it is far too dangerous for her to remain in the US a moment longer. She needs...
- Dave: Here’s a few points. 1. Interpol has nothing whatsoever to do with the ICC or the UN. And it actually...
- Dave: I have a great idea. How about if Taitz goes ahead and files a criminal complaint with the ICC, so you can see...
- Dave: I’m pretty sure that you don’t have to be a member of any bar to send a complaint to the UN OHCHR....
- JoZeppy: Wow, how many different ways can you be wrong? First of all, did you even look up what those sections listed...
- Mike: Interpol is the investigative arm of the ICCIn what universe, Sven?
- Ima Obot: JoZeppy: Obama’s EO 12425 Obama made the offices and records of Interpol sovereign and exempt from...
- JoZeppy: You’re right, I was sloppy in my language. The treaty has never been ratified, and therefore the US is...
- SFJeff: “You can whine and stamp your little feet all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact President...
- Ima Obot: JoZeppy: What I surprise, another birther with no idea how the law works.Being a signatory to a treaty...
- JoZeppy: What I surprise, another birther with no idea how the law works. Being a signatory to a treaty does not make...
- ballantine: Well, of course, the real International Criminal Court would laugh at Taitz and any accusation that Obama...
- BatGuano: JoZeppyFinally, the United States is not a signatory to the ICC, thus, the ICC has no power over US...
- Hollister v. Indonesian Citizenship Law (98)
- RLW: It is also possible that he was enrolled in the catholic school since he was unable to enroll in the public...
- Senate candidate Hayworth backs off birtherism (8)
- BatGuano: bob: Too late for Hayworth; Weigel reports on a McCain campaign ad starring Berg and Taitz. the majority...
- Obama treason trial – mark your calendar (102)
- Saint James: Did I ever have engage you in a conversation? I remember having had an exchange with Sven. However, we...
Donofrio’s blog, Natural Born Citizen, is back on the air at least since yesterday. I thought he had folded his hand and gone home. I’ll go see what he did with my post of Lynch v. Clarke. Wow, approved, but very small and very gray.
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This is interesting. Thoughts?
written by Pseudonym, January 29, 2009
Hillary Clinton Constitutionally Ineligible to Serve as Secretary of State
Respectfully asking….. what does that remotely have to do with Obama’s citizenship or eligibility?
Besides, it was a known issue… it’s happened in administrations going back to Nixon… generally they just reduce the pay rate of the Secretary of State and move on with life. Been happening for 40 years or so. *shrug*
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This is an attempt to violate the spirit of the constitution by adhering to the letter of it in a rather mindless way.
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Here is the first part:
OMG – This is BIG ! ! !
written by Carlyle, January 29, 2009
BREAKING NEWS
This had been discussed some weeks and months ago. But I figured it was dead because she was already sworn in. Well now we have an actual State Dept employee heading this lawsuit! What a brave soul!!
Whatever happens here, it will at least blow wide open the doors to officially discuss the concept of “constitutional eligibility” and the consequences of not following this supreme law of the land.
Keep an eye on this one folks – expect some MAJOR FIREWORKS.
Washington, DC — January 29, 2009
Hillary Clinton Constitutionally Ineligible to Serve as Secretary of State
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has filed a lawsuit against newly sworn-in Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on behalf of U.S. Foreign Service Officer and State Department employee David C. Rodearmel, (Rodearmel v. Clinton, et al., (D. District of Columbia)). The lawsuit maintains that Mrs. Clinton is constitutionally ineligible to serve as Secretary of State and that Mr. Rodearmel cannot be forced to serve under the former U.S. Senator, as it would violate the oath he took as a Foreign Service Officer in 1991 to “support and defend” and “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution of the United States.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/jan/judicial-watch-files-lawsuit-challenging-hillary-clinton-appointment-behalf-state-depa
Carlyle
written by Kenneth Tripp, January 29, 2009
That case has the potential to split us up. Some of us think highly of Hillary and would consider that a frivolous, sexist lawsuit.
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OMG!!!
Will Texas Darlin’s head explode???
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Rod Blagojevich impeachment trial, January 27, 2009, IL Governor impeachment, Obama ties, IL Health Planning Facilities Board, Bid rigging, Obama senate seat, Rezko, Levine, Weinstein, Criminal complaint, Blagojevich indictment, Patrick Fitzgerald
January 27, 2009 · 76 Comments
The impeachment trial of Governor Rod Blagojevich of Illinois
began on Monday, January 26, 2009. Governor Blagojevich was
not present at the trial Monday, instead he continued his
road show antics of pleading innocence and being the victim
of a witch hunt. Anyone that followed the Tony Rezko trial,
read the indictments of Rezko, Stuart Levine, Dr. Robert
Weinstein and a host of others and compared those revelations
to the details of the Blagojevich criminal complaint knows
of Rod Blagojevich’s deep involvement in Chicago pay to play
politics. It is also clear that the case against Blagojevich
is not simply about selling Obama’s senate seat, but about
many years of corruption that ties Blagojevich to many Chicago
corruption figures as well as Obama.
One of the more flagrant cases of corruption involving
Blagojevich and Obama was their part in rigging the IL Health
Planning Facilities Board. Obama was in the IL Senate at that
time and was instrumental in reducing the number of members
from 15 to 9. Why is that important? Because the governor, Rod
Blagojevich, had the power to appoint up to 5 members.
Blagojevich, in cahoots with Rezko and Levine, appointed
members that would follow their wishes and consequently Obama and
Blagojevich received campaign contributions from the new
members. The board was involved in bid rigging.
Obama and Blagojevich and Health Planning Board rigging
Obama, Blagojevich and IL Teachers Retirement System
reveal more Chicago and Illinois corruption ties.
Obama corruption ties in IL TRS should lead to indictment
Blagojevich investigation should lead to Obama Indictment
Listen to Blagojevich Impeachment Trial
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Once again, thanks for the previous link. Perhaps this site would care to humor me and answer this question: would it be possible for someone to have a birth cert on file in HI that matches the 10/31 description from the state of HI but that also indicates a birth outside HI? If you say that would be impossible, please provide evidence to back it up. Mahalo!
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It is legally impossible for Barack Obama to be born outside Hawaii in 1961 and still have a birth registered there as argued in detail in my article Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate Doesn’t Really Say He Was Born in Hawaii. The only way it would be possible for Barack Obama to have a Hawaiian birth certificate and not be born in Hawaii is for his parents to have submitted a perjured affidavit that he was born in Hawaii, but unassisted at home.
Home births were quite rare in Honolulu in 1961 (only 14 all year). Typically when registration fraud is involved, the birth registration is delayed, which is not the case for Barrack Obama’s birth (4 days after birth).
I should point out that there is no evidence Obama was born anywhere else. There are claims that somebody saw a Kenyan birth certificate, someone with no name and no affidavit. The grandmother tape, is of course, evidence he was born in Hawaii if one listens to the unedited version available here and elsewhere.
We take evidence very seriously here.
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=915
Dr. Orly Taitz needs your assistance
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=914
Obama- in empty words is pro Israel, in reality-Pro Palestinian terrorists, pro destruction of Israel.
Note the mixture of the lie (automatic Indonesian citizenship) with the truth (Naturalized citizens are not eligible…).
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http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-do-we-all-believe-everything-bad.html
Friday, January 30, 2009
Why do we all believe everything bad, illegal and unconstitutional, when it comes to Obama?
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You DO? That’d be a first. And if you did it might be because you researched his background, FINALLY, and learned how he was taught politics work. You scratch my back, I’ll feed you pork. He did it before and is attempting it still.
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The article which begins: “As you know, I posted yesterday an article, that was forwarded to me by Devvy Kidd, a reporter and writer with some 20 years of experience. The article ” has been deleted and that’s all I can retrieve. Devvy Kidd is a prominent nObama, that I haven’t talked about here. She doesn’t put much at all about Obama on her web site but is quoted elsewhere with remarks like:
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Devvy Kidd is a lawyer. She was involved with the “We The People Foundation”. I think she broke away, but still subscribes to their ideology. (My guess is, she didn’t want the bad press from the tax protestor convictions. But, that’s just speculation.) She touts the 16th Amendment was never ratified, therefore taxes are illegal mantra.
Anyway… the Constitutionalists are supposed to be about protecting your rights, including right to privacy. What happened to that idea.
Also, I thought it was understood (and shown) that a parent cannot renounce a minor’s citizenship.
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Mimi,
This bunch “upholds” on part of the Constitution while they trash another. LOL
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http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-and-antimilitary-actions.html
Obama and AntiMilitary Actions
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I don’t understand her point of posting this. Unless she wants war-mongers to get riled up? Who wants war? Why is looking for a peaceful alternative a bad thing?
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I still don’t understand her point in posting the paper, but, it does show Obama went by the name “OBAMA” while at Columbia. Orly was trying to prove he didn’t. Oh well Orly.
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I think Orly’s point to this post is to imply that Obama will weaken USA defense. The whole dictator/muslin/destroy America thing.
The opposite to anti- war would be pro -war and nobody in their right mind would be pro- war? And I really don’t think anybody would want a arms race/build up so we could/would blow each other up? So, I guess I am also anti-war and advocate nuclear arms reduction. Never considered that to be a bad thing.
This has nothing to do with her case which is Obama a NBC? and if you will notice, some of her followers are beginning to take issue with this.
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Oh, and I forgot to add “The Big Bad Wolf.” (Muslim)
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I have a really smarmy remark to insert here, but I will refrain. I will just say college students may change their views in later life.
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No kidding. Still… don’tcha have a glimmer of that ideology left in ya?
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http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/how-much-is-obama-paying-to-defend-his.html
How much is Obama paying to defend his ineligibility?
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The funniest part of that rant is this: ”…instead of allowing Robert Bauer and Obama a free ride claiming NoFactNoCheck.org political blog garbage as a reputable source. Why aren’t the judges sanctioning them for even claiming that this stupid political unverified blog is a reputable source?”
Her entire case is based on internet rumor. And, a guy named Polarik who won’t reveal his name.
She should wonder when, exactly, the Courts will start to impose sanctions on her.
Also, in the article posted 2 entries before this one, she says “When a man spends reported $800,000 on attorneys to keep original birth certificate sealed…”
Where did that come from Orly? Who reported that? Was it a “reliable” blog? What a sham you are.
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Mimi,
When she first posted that article, somebody asked her how to provide evidence of President Obama’s legal fees, but they also asked her how much she had spent in legal fees and if the allegation that she had received $10,000.00 from Ed Hale/Plains Radio for appearing on his show. When I went back later, that post had been deleted. And, Orly did not respond to the later two questions. Interesting. A blogger posted that about Ed Hale on her blog. Probably not true? I’ve also seen that comment made on other blogs.
Orly, in my opinion, certainly has two sets of rules/double standard.
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I think the recent “Obama military oath” fiasco should tell us a lot about what a “reliable blog” is. Very few blogs (this one included) have the right to call themselves “reliable”. I try, but I don’t have the resources of The New York Times.
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Dr. C.,
I think you do a great job and always correct something if needed when it is brought to your attention/proven wrong. That is reliable to me in itself.
I saw the best debates today between GeorgetownJD and Phil on The Right Side of Life under the article “Hollister v Saetoro Motion to Dismiss.” GeorgetownJD really had his “lunch packed.”
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What I find remarkable is some of the comments questioning Orly following this article. I didn’t know such things made it onto that blog.
Applause!
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Mimi,
I nearly fell over when I saw that. Couldn’t believe “Robert” hadn’t deleted it. Of course, then someone came right behind that post and said “Obot alert.” LOL. Whoever that was made some very valid points.
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Orly says: “In my Keyes v Bowen case there are 4 attorneys representing Obama, …” When dealing with Orly (who doesn’t check sources) one never knows whether she speaks truly or just repeats an unreliable source. That is, Orly is “no information” and if you want to know something you have to go elsewhere. I feel sorry for the poor electors she’s suing.
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There is a question up on Ed Hale’s forum right now trying to figure out what case she has? Some have heard that she no longer represents Keyes. Nobody at Hale’s board can find a case… yet.
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/970741
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You are not going to believe this: http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=931
Congress sued to remove prez (Usurper) from White House
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It’s the Kerchner case. Same old, same old.
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Mimi, Yes, I know–realized that after I posted it. My bad. Learn to read before I post. LOL. Usually do but was in a hurry. Is any of that stuff they are saying about Orly at Plains Radio true? One blogger has been posting it on her blog too. Orly/Robert are now requiring the comments to be moderated. Somebody who is posting anonomyous is posting the stuff–claims not to be a O-bot but who knows?
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Orly is going to moderate her board. Yes. As to what’s true about any other claims, who knows. Word at Plains Radio Board was that Orly was off Keyes case. I heard that a week ago or so as well. But, today Orly says she’s not. And, she lists a bunch of other stuff too.
She says ”Judge Carnes in TX has granted a pro hac vice, allowing me to represent Jody Brockhausen in TX.” - I wonder if he knows how she got her law degree and looked at any of her stuff? And, being that Orly sometimes “stretches” the truth (or lies), I don’t know if that would be true or not.
I also see she started “Defend Our Freedoms Foundation”. I would be curious if she will take a salary from the foundation.
She has lost a lot of credibility of late, and I think she’s scrambling.
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Hahahahahaha. Admission pro hac vice on a case that has been dismissed is … worthless. Pro hac means “for this one particular case.” Newsflash to Orly: This one particular case is over, vamoosh, done. Your 3-minute admission to practice in Texas has concluded.
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Mimi,
There was another allegation by the blogger about Orly receiving 10K for appearing on Plains Radio. Notice she didn’t address that issue. Also, a issue with the story she tells about fleeing Russia 20 years ago–evidently someone has been “investigating Orly.”
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I'm a little o-botShort and Stout
Here is my handle
Here is my spout
When I tell the truthThey start to shout
Kick the sorry
O-bot out.
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ROTFL
Is that going to be our “theme song?”
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Doc Orly just posted this on her forum:
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/false-rumors.html
False rumors
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=932 The Usurper has some Priorities
I recall during the election that one of the news stations reported that the military was more scared of McCain than Obama on defense cuts because McCain knew where all the “bones” were buried. It is my understanding that there is alot of “pork” in the defense budget?
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Bogus, Go to google video or YouTube and search for Rumsfeld September 10 2001. Rumsfeld admitted they lost track of TRILLIONS of dollars. Into the Pentagon black hole. But, the next day, 9/11, the world changed.
I think the figure went up afterwards, but not much was reported on it.
I am not so naive to think there are not secret projects and places where the money was spent. They might have “lost track” of some money, but not the amount they’re talking about.
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http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/good-news/obama-begins-meet-amnesty-internationals-challenge-20090122
USA: Move to suspend military tribunals a positive first step
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Doc Orly is a nutcase. Do you think this representitive is trying to “object?”
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=939
Update on the congressman that raised his hand
Posted on February 1st, 2009 by David-Crockett
Update II:
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Looks like applause to me.
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Dr. C., Have you checked the Jan. 8, 2008 Congressional Record to see if there is an objection filed by anyone? It is PDF and I can’t open them.
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Dr. C.,
Is this it?
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/digest2009/d08ja091.html
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Too far-fetched to check.
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Sometimes I wonder if these people actually know anything about how our government actually works. It really seems as though they are making it up as they go along because this is the first time they’ve ever followed plain old ‘parliamentary procedure‘ as it takes place on Capitol Hill.
The truth of the matter is, although Cheney spoke the words “without objection” when instructing the temporary Tellers of the joint session, the correct point to have made the verbal objection was when Ohio came up for certification of their electoral results. Any legitimate objections would have been known to at least one of the Teller’s or the Clerk of the House — if not the Vice President himself before the joint session was even called to order. You see, the objection to a certification of electoral votes is only recognized WHEN MADE IN WRITTING!!!
See this CNN Transcript for how an objection was handled back in 2001’s joint session of Congress over the Florida debacle as an established example to refer to. I’d get it straight from the Congressional Record but its kind of late and just not up to it right now.
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This has already been well hashed at Berg’s blog, And the fact that the objection has to be in writing.
Orly is just stupid. and that is just the plain truth. Orly is like a mule and a pit bull combined, which can sometimes be a good quality unless it is combined with stupid. For people who are unholding the Constitution, they sure don’t appear to have read it. But, Orly is just looking for ANYTHING.
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George O.,
Is this is?
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/digest2005/d06JA051.txt
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Bogus,
That’s for the 2004 election I believe. What the CNN Transcript was about is the 2000 elections and the certification of the Electoral vote on January 6, 2001. For a non-pdf version, see page H31 on forward from the THOMAS website HERE.
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GO, III, David over at The Betrayal forum is trying to imply that Cheney put the “objections” in File 13. LOL. That bunch is actually looking at that video to see if they can find someone who wanted to Object but wasn’t given the opportunity by Cheney. Claiming Cheney did not go by the “Constitution”.
Thanks for the non-PDF site.
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New Conspiracy. Judge Surrick’s Decision was Rigged. Evidence in the form of time stamps on faxed copies. Video and full explantion here:
http://bloghostingfunsite.com/law-firm-in-chicago/31.html
Basically, Chicago writes decision, faxes decision to Judge Surrick, who faxes decision to Berg.
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Mimi, Something doesn’t pass the smell test on this post. Go look at the dates on the comments???? Is this a rerun of a old article?
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Yep. Comments are into March 2009. Odd.
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Real conspiracy theory quality evidence. Two people in the same time zone–must be an association!
What I found interesting was the obviously disguised voice in the YouTube video. Polarik?
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I assumed it was a voice board. Computer generated voice.
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It was very robotic, but I thought a human was doing that intentionally.
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=943
Jean Kulig-Tucker – US Attorney Coordinator
“It appears that there is mounting, if not conclusive, documentary evidence that Barack H. Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro, is not a “natural born” citizen, as provided by Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution, and therefore, is Constitutionally ineligible to hold the Office of President of the United States.”
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I guess these people don’t understand how the Justice Dept. works, either. Your link points to a letter that is written to a Bush appointee (see: http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2008/05/matthew-friedri.html) – asking for a criminal investigation into the whole eligibility thing. I guess Ms. Tucker doesn’t understand that Obama gets to appoint his own replacements. I doubt that Eric Holder & his subordinates will be interested in pursuing this, when they have so much more interesting cases to pursue what with the whole Karl Rove defiance of Congressional subpena’s thing. Out with the old & in with the new…..
As to her basic question… “who decides?” … I think the Constitution makes it pretty clear that Congress decidese, and as far as I can tell… they’ve already made the determination.
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I think “rotting” is a more accurate term than “mounting”.
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=949
A short answer for Mountain Jack
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Tell it to the judge.
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Donofrio has gone off the deep end. Totally. It is my opinion that this dude does some serious drugs OR he is a mental case. Judge for yourself:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
About the only thing rational thing he did say was that Orly SHOULD NOT ADVISE MILITARY TO DISOBEY ORDERS!
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Donofrio’s a poker player and a chess player. He knows when to fold/resign.
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I don’t know anymore Doc. Leo is hard to figure out. If you get a few minutes, check this…
http://robotpirateninja.com/2008/12/15/the-final-word-on-leo-donofrioand-the-natural-born-citizen/
He’s certainly a colorful character. But, after reading that article, I might believe Leo’s claim that someone was following him.
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Mimi,
Personally, I think he’s into some heavy duty drugs. So, there may be several reasons he would be followed.
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That same blogger includes in another entry a debate he had at Leo’s blog:
“[Leo Donofrio: The law doesn't recognize the absurd or frivolous. In the case above, there would be no basis in Jus Soli or Jus Sanguinis for the Chinese citizenship. Obama was a citizen - by blood descent - of Great Britain not by an absurd hyopothetical.]
No he wasn’t. You clearly state that..
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When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. (Emphasis added.)
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You even added emphasis that it is BRITISH LAW that you are using to make your argument. In the hypothetical Chinese case, all they would have to do is have a “one drop of blood” rule and it is the exact same thing.
BTW, my point is exactly what you said. The concept that British or Chinese law would trump U.S. law is so absurd it keeps getting tossed out of court. Thank for you confirming my point.
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[LD. The Treatise was written in 1758 and was the way of the world. The Constitution was ratified in 1788 and the original intent of the phrase is explained in The Laws of Nations. The treatise as cited would appeal to an originalist like Justice Scalia, who referred Cort's case to the full Court. Scalia just recently used The Laws of Nations in the Heller case where he wrote the opinion of the Court. Obviously, somebody like Justice Ginsberg probably wouldn't be influenced by the Laws of Nations as to this issue. ]
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Yes, I know the world was very sexist in 1758. It was also very racist. That was the point of the Fourteenth Amendment, if you’ll recall, to try and address the direct issue of how people treated former slaves.
Your lack of clarification or real argumentation seems to mean that you agree that a gender-neutral test is fine, and so Obama wins again.
Scalia, BTW, hates using other country’s laws to interpret the Constitution. I don’t see him agreeing with your contention that British Law somehow trumps U.S. law in the context of citizenship.”
http://robotpirateninja.com/2008/12/12/horse-drinking-water-corollary-leo-donofrio-is-off-his-rocker-and-blognitive-dissonance/
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=950 Bill creates Nazi camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’
Other than “the nutcases” stupid headline, does anybody here see anything wrong with this? Does Katrina come to mind?
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=948
Open Letter to Senator Warren from Lt.Col Dr. Earl-Graeff
What’s the scoop on Lt. Col Dr. Earl-Graeff?
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“Clueless with repect [sic] to the definition of what constitutes a Natural Born citizen” is code language for “doesn’t subscribe to our fringe views”.
As for “Lt. Col Dr. Earl-Graeff?”, the name could be as fake as these.
There is a real Dr. David Earl-Graeff (Georgetown University) , but I don’t know if it is the same person who wrote the letter to Senator Warner. The letter writer based on the address lives in a half-million dollar house.
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http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/article-from-australia.html
An article from Australia
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In fact, there are a bunch of these people who aren’t “wrapped too tight.”
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=951
WEBSITES IN POTENTIAL DANGER—THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING
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That’s a pretty run of the mill “viral email”. It’s interesting to see the rather familiar hallmarks making it into the Obama Conspiracy Theory realm. Maybe worth an article.
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This is from the email:
They would have wet their pants had they known about the Organizing America email that came out today.
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=952
Formal Request to Senator Murray
Posted on February 2nd, 2009 by David-Crockett
Natural Born Citizen…Orly? published:
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Interesting how they leave out the “that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States,” of both acts in the letter.
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The facts don’t suit their argument.
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RE: Broe v Reed
Stephen Pidgeon updated on Ed Hale’s forum with the following:
Stephen Pidgeon IP: 71.231.99.129 Feb 2nd, 2009 – 12:17 PM
Re: What Happened to Pigeon and $
Here is an update concerning Broe v Reed.
The plaintiffs have elected not to make an appeal to the US Supreme Court, but are considering other strategies.
We have pursued our investigation, and have incurred over $30,000 in billing doing so. A complete dossier will be available as soon as we complete the remaining legs of our investigation.
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I did check the I.P. address, and it’s in Washington State. No way to be sure it’s him though.
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/971295
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Mimi,
So, translate. What do you think this means? Other strategies? I take it mean “they’ve got nothing.”
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Is Orly serious?
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/citizens-grand-juries.htmlCitizen’s grand juries
Is the above what the Constitution says about Grand Juries?
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/02/kanye-blagojevich-obama.htmlKanye Blagojevich Obama?
Read the Huffington Post article inside this Orly post. I take it to be “satire”, meant to be “funny”, don’t you? Isn’t Huffington Post pro-Obama?
Orly is jumping all over this–”URGENT! Need Blago’s and the Huffington reporters phone numbers.”
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I guess those “citizen grand juries” will work with her new “citizen militia” and her “new government”. Yes, friends, it looks like Orly intends to overthrow the government of the United States of America,. replacing it with The United States of America…Orly?
The farther our Orly gets, the less I worry about her.
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Yes the Huff Post article is satire.
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Odd that they didn’t also quote from the second photo and caption in the Huffington Post article:
And here’s Obama standing by some fountain in his “Indonesian shirt,” looking for all the world like a guy who totally has a valid birth certificate from the State of Hawaii: See: http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/57294/original.jpg
(As I read the tongue-in-cheek photo captions on Huffington Post, Obama looked like the campus radical-type…. but also the natural born, home grown, chill campus radical-type.)
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I think the most hilarious thing about this is that Orly requests help obtaining the reporter of that article e-mail address. Either Orly did NOT read the article or she is NOT a very observant person because the reporters e-mail address is at the top of the article. You would think her “supporters” would see this too?
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=960
THE ARTICLE 138 UCMJ REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES SOLUTION
“Article 138 of the UCMJ is one of the few provisions of the code that permit the service members to go on the offense. This provision gives you the right to file a formal complaint against your commanding officer for ANY grievance you may have , including harrassment, violations of rights, unfair treatment, ect”
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It seems Orly may have got herself a plaintiff for her military suit.
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=3371&cpage=1#comment-4657
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All I can say is that I wouldn’t sign that Petition with Orly as my attorney. The guy deserves what he gets and nobody can say he hasn’t been warned. He’s not active military but reserve?
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His freeper profile is posted at the polijab. I couldn’t tell you more.
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A nice comment on standing also at the right side:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=3371&cpage=1#comment-4655
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He has his own blog. He tries to advise Orly, and gets frustrated when she doesn’t heed his advice. He told her the consent form for the military was dangerous and gave language to use instead. But, she didn’t listen. At least for awhile. He sometimes posts their exchanges at his blog.
I think his fans were upset when Leo posted his Section 138 theory. And, that might have been what set Leo off on his latest crazy rant. Leo said something about it not being about who gets the credit, or something along those lines and indicated that he had received emails and comments about stealing the idea. Then, he shut down all commenting on his [Leo's] blog.
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Yep, this is the guy that “tries to help” Orly. Think he knows what he’s doing? Thinks he does.
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http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=979
New York v. US: A Closer Look at SCOTUS’ Affirmation of the 10th Amendment
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This is reported on the Yes To Democracy website:
From the docket:
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That sounds rather ominous for Berg.
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Bogus, GREAT FIND.
Dr. C lights fuse and runs away.
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http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/02/05/another-dangerous-bill-can-take-away-your-parental-rights.aspx
another dangerous bill can take away your parental rights
THIS IS ALARMMING–CALL YOUR SENATORS/REPRESENATIVES ASAP AND TELL THEM NO WAY!!!!! THIS IS NOT A JOKE. HOPE! CHANGE!
HERE IT COMES, PEOPLE!
Why does there aways have to be so much DRAMA?
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So if this is not a joke, then which of her articles are jokes?
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Because DRAMA IS EXCITING!!!!!
Emphatic typefaces make all the difference between plain old information and BIG STUFF.
I mean, really, WHAT DID YOU READ FIRST! HMMMMM?
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Obama’s socialism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwgHNtyD54
Glenn Beck on Obama’s ‘Change’: Socialism
Glenn Beck: O’ Hail the Messiah Lord Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEwRB_gOUDg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4&feature=related
..look at the subliminal messages!
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There they go again with that “messiah” word.
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Dr. C.,
This is the phrase that made me chuckle: “..look at the subliminal messages!”
Orly likes to use the word “demand” alot too.
It makes me angry when they refer to President Obama as “the messiah.”
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But when I go subliminall, something really happens!
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8 States of submitted types of bills claiming sovereignty.
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?page_id=1909
If you state is one of them, please contact the sponsoring representatives and ask them to contact Dr. Orly Taitz. She can represent them in an action against Barack Obama’s eligibility.
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http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/02/05/office-of-personnel-management-has-been-served.aspx Office of Personnel Management Has Been ServedAs per President Bush’s January 16th, 2009 Executive Order , The Office of Personnel Management has been served. List of subpoenas can been viewed at our main website download page.
If I understood one attorney right, Orly kind of got her cart before her horse on these subpoenas.
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http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/02/06/from-contrarian-report-an-example-of-horrific-insanity-and-waste-in-nationalised-healthcare.aspx From contrarian report- an example of horrific insanity and waste in Nationalised healthcare
“Here is what a sane society would do:”
“1. Immediately declare both the babies and her other six children wards of the state. That way officials can seize and control any money that finds its way into Suleman’s hands. Otherwise, some greedy media will pay her, and she will be free to use the cash for new crackpot ventures. Once the children are under judicial and state supervision, her ability to conduct new schemes will be more limited.”
Now, this is the bunch that claims to be “Defending Our Freedoms?”
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http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/02/06/members-of-the-military-please-fill-out-your-138-grievancies-to-verify-soetoroobamas-legitimacy-for-position-of-commander-in-chief-and-write-to-your-congressmen-and-soldiers-and.aspx
Members of the military, please fill out your 138 grievancies to verify Soetoro/Obama’s legitimacy for position of Commander in Chief and write to your Congressmen and “Soldiers and Sailors Act”
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