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Corsi’s Hawaiian mole

Phase of the birth certificate?

Jerome Corsi alleges that anonymous moles within the Department of Health in Hawaii told his investigator, back in February, 2011, of a plan by “Obama operatives” to insert a fake birth certificate into a blank position in the bound volume of Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961. Corsi was speaking on the Alex Jones InfoWars radio show today.

Yes you heard me right. Now of course this immediately brings to mind the question of what former Republican-appointed health director Chiyome Fukino found when she looked at the bound volume back in 2009 that led her to report that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was on file. Does this birth certificate wink into and out of existence with the phase of the moon?

Birthers like confirmation (it’s their  bias) and Corsi supposedly offers some in a zip file of articles (available on the InfoWars link above) he was preparing for WorldNetDaily that mention this Obama plot two months before the birth certificate appeared. Corsi says that the time stamps on the draft articles (in Microsoft Word format) prove his claim that he knew of the plot in February. Given that I wouldn’t had believed these fantastic tales in February, I don’t see how 3 months aging adds any credibility. There is nothing in the reports that demonstrates knowledge of anything in the public record today that was not in the public record in February. There is nothing “inside” or predictive in these reports.

It is of course possible to alter date stamps, but there’s no reason to assume they were altered.

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22 Responses to Corsi’s Hawaiian mole

  1. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 25, 2011 at 5:56 pm #

    Doc have you tried taking them into illustrator to see how many layers are created?

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    Sean May 25, 2011 at 5:57 pm #

    I love that none of these stories require evidence.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 25, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    Doc at first I thought it was the zipping which might have changed the modified date, so I took some files I had from as far back as 2008. Zipped them into a zip file. Then extracted them into a different folder. The created date may say today but the modified date says 2008. Corsi is full of crap those articles were probably saved or created yesterday.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 25, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    The original version of this article reported, in error, that the time stamps did not show a February date. They do. The internal zip file date for the articles was May 24.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 25, 2011 at 6:06 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: The original version of this article reported, in error, that the time stamps did not show a February date. They do. The internal zip file date for the articles was May 24.

    Which part shorts a time stamp of February? Just marking the file name with the dates doesn’t help at all because he could have put those in at any time.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 25, 2011 at 6:07 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): The created date may say today but the modified date says 2008. Corsi is full of crap those articles were probably saved or created yesterday.

    No, I just screwed up. I looked at the modified dates INSIDE the zip archive. Once extracted, they were February as claimed. However, that just means the story was made up in February rather than May.

    One should always keep in mind the possibility that Corsi’s investigator is the fiction writer, and that Corsi is being duped.

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    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross) May 25, 2011 at 6:09 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: No, I just screwed up. I looked at the modified dates INSIDE the zip archive. Once extracted, they were February as claimed. However, that just means the story was made up in February rather than May.One should always keep in mind the possibility that Corsi’s investigator is the fiction writer, and that Corsi is being duped.

    Weird because I extracted them and didn’t see the february dates inside the properties

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 25, 2011 at 6:13 pm #

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater (Bob Ross): Weird because I extracted them and didn’t see the february dates inside the properties

    See screen shot added to article.

    What did you use to unzip the files? I used 7-zip.

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    Daniel May 25, 2011 at 6:27 pm #

    Besides which the only thing required to have a Word document show any date you want is to set the computer clock to that date, and then create the document.

    I can create a document today that would show a creation date that would show forensically to be 1995.

    This is why file dates, document attributes, and things like exif information are not admissible in court.

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 25, 2011 at 6:27 pm #

    The phase of the moon link has been changed to:

    http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/phase-of-the-moon.html

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    Daniel May 25, 2011 at 6:30 pm #

    Sounds to me like Corsi and Farah are getting very desperate. Book sales are in the toilet. Birtherism is faltering. There’s no chance of getting a birther into the Republican nomination…..

    I’m looking to see increasingly ridiculous excuses out of WND in the months running up to the election.

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    Loren May 25, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    What I think is most important in those February documents is that there’s nothing anachronistic or predictive about them. It’s simply an anonymous ‘source’ claiming that the White House possibly has intentions of forging a birth certificate at some undisclosed point in the future.

    In other words, the ‘source’ is saying exactly what other Birthers have been saying for two years. There’s absolutely nothing to support the assertion of inside or advance knowledge.

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    aarrgghh May 25, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

    that’s funny, ’cause i have documents on my computer from april 2009 i’ve been cautiously sitting on until “just the right moment” to spring on the usurper:

    “Don’t know about 9/11 conspiracy, but do know from DC source that an Administration team is working on perfecting a forgery of the long-form birth certificate. They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.

    They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.

    The blanks in the forged form were filled in with an old Underwood Manual typewriter bought at an estate sale in Skokie, IL. The raised seal was the easiest piece to fake, since you can by a special order corporate seal from just about any online office supply store.

    The only reason they haven’t rolled out the foregery yet is that it is “seasoning” under mild UV light and a back and forth rotation between between a humidifier and a sauna.

    Get ready….one to two months tops.

    I also said they’d have to get a 1960s Printing Press, and indeed, by this information, looks like they found one.

    The banking connection is disturbing too, gives more credibility to this also. The details here are solid.

    Obama visited Canada not that long ago, anyone know if he went to Toronto?”

    oh boy, just wait’ll this bombshell gets out! they’ll be frog-marching the usurper out any day now! one to two months tops — solid!

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    Dr. Conspiracy May 25, 2011 at 7:39 pm #

    aarrgghh: that’s funny, ’cause i have documents on my computer from april 2009 i’ve been cautiously sitting on until “just the right moment” to spring on the usurper:

    See also:

    The Long Form: coming to a theater near you

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    Critical Thinker May 25, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

    Keep moving…nothing interesting to see here. Despite WND’s “cloak and dagger” tone in phrases like, “According to a top-level WND confidential source with access to officials within the Hawaii government…” there is nothing new or even particularly interesting in these articles. The articles are actually about the serial numbers on Obama’s and the Nordyke girls’ birth certificates. I have no problem believing they were written in February, 2011 since all the information in them was publicly available at that time. These guys sure know their audience, though. “WND cannot release the identity of the confidential source without risking the person’s life.” Birthers will eat this stuff up.

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    aarrgghh May 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy: See also:

    The Long Form: coming to a theater near you

    hey! someone’s been peeking at my superseekrit files!

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    Hawaiiborn May 26, 2011 at 12:05 am #

    However, that just means the story was made up in February rather than May.

    Its easy to fake the “save date” on a file. Just turn back the clock on your computer to whatever date you want.

    Here I’ll show you:

    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5778/clipboard01hcn.jpg

    I created both documents today. But one shows as being created on March 31, 2011

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    richCares May 26, 2011 at 10:54 am #

    Corsi’s mole is really easy to find, tell him to turn around and bend over. WA LA!

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    katahdin May 26, 2011 at 11:14 am #

    Someone should introduce Corsi’s mole to Trump’s investigators. He won’t believe what they’re finding.

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    Thrifty May 26, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    Hawaiiborn: Its easy to fake the “save date” on a file. Just turn back the clock on your computer to whatever date you want.Here I’ll show you:http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5778/clipboard01hcn.jpgI created both documents today. But one shows as being created on March 31, 2011

    I bought a digital camera back in October after my previous one broke. Got the new one from a pawn shop. The date stamp is set to some time in 2003, and I can’t figure out how to change it. So when I plug the camera into my computer, every file says “Date Modified” and a date in 2003. I could take a picture of today’s newspaper and it would have a picture dated in 2003. FUTURE CAM!

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    Rickey May 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm #

    Wasn’t Corsi supposed to produce the license for his Hawaii investigator by now?

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    richCares May 26, 2011 at 6:15 pm #

    Wasn’t Corsi supposed to produce the license for his Hawaii investigator by now?
    3 guesses
    ..1. Corsi lied
    ..2. Investigator not availalble
    ..3. he’s Corsi’s gardener
    .
    winner gets a 4 day 2 night stay in BirfiStans Royal hotel, in the upper birth!