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September 9 March on Washington

Taking back America

So today was the day of that big march of “freedom loving people” on Washington, DC, to take the government back from the rest of us freedom loving people. Some title the  march “Walk like an Egyptian,” a not-too-subtle reference to removing a government through popular uprising.

It’s all over the Internet…

Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association:

Dear Friends,
we need millions upon millions of American people to attend and march on Washington DC, September 9th, (peacefully,) look at what is happening right now in Egypt, millions and millions of Egyptians citizens are demonstrating peacefully & demanding their tyrannical government step down, they are doing it peacefully, WITH NO WEAPONS! , now the Egyptian military has sided with the people and has given the tyrannical government 48 hours to step down or the military will intervene,
we can do the same here, but we need millions and millions to stand up go to Washington , and have our military stand with we the people & the constitution once and for all !
Sincerely,
Chief Kessler

The Western Center for Journalism:

by Bobby Powell

THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!
THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR PARODY!!! THIS IS REAL!!!

Ordinary citizens are not the only people up in arms over the tyrannical policies of the Obama administration. Members of law enforcement – Police Chiefs and municipal police, Sheriffs and their deputies, and State Troopers from around the country – plan to take a message of dissatisfaction to Washington D.C. on September 9th and redress their Congressmen with a list of grievances.

U.S. Patriot News.org

Walk Like the Egyptians: September 9, 2013 in DC by 1389 on July 9, 2013 in 1389 (blog admin), Barack Hussein Obama, Egypt The Conservative Speaker: March on DC – Sept. 9, 2013 (h/t: anyonebutbarry2012) [Following was Kessler’s letter cited above.]

March on DC September 9th 2012 Facebook page

March On Washington D.C. September 9th 2013.
We are NOT going to ask congress to Impeach Obama And HIS Administration,
We ARE going to DEMAND it!

The Facebook page organizer wrote about 2:30 PM:

I have walked from the monument to the white house down around the capital building and have not found anyone from the march yet but ran into a lot of good people.

Here’s the view of the National Mall from the Washington Monument at 3:48 PM.

Elevated view of National Mall from the Washington Monument

What if they held a revolution and nobody came?

How to start a movement:

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61 Responses to September 9 March on Washington

  1. avatar
    Majority Will September 9, 2013 at 3:04 pm #

    Arthur:
    OMG! I just remembered that today is the day! It’s finally come! Today “We the People,” led by uber-patriot Bobby Powell, are taking back our government!

    Remember what the Western Center for Journalism said about this day?

    “Ordinary citizens are not the only people up in arms over the tyrannical policies of the Obama administration. Members of law enforcement – Police Chiefs and municipal police, Sheriffs and their deputies, and State Troopers from around the country – plan to take a message of dissatisfaction to Washington D.C. on September 9th and redress their Congressmen with a list of grievances.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/sworn-officers-plan-to-march-on-dc-sept-9th/

    And of course, you remember what Bobby Powell himself predicted on July 27 about this historical event:

    “On September 9th millions of Americans will gather in Washington D.C. to let their Congressmen and Senators know that they are sick and tired of the crimes being committed by the Obama administration, that they have had enough of the coverups, lies, and scandals that are endemic in the Executive Branch, and that they want their elected Representatives to take immediate action to Impeach – and imprison – Barack Hussein Obama and his Attorney General Eric Holder.”

    http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2013/07/millions-of-americans-set-to-gather-in.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheTruthIsViral+%28The+Truth+Is+Viral%29

    So all you Obots, I hope you are enjoying your last day of freedom! The day of reckoning is at hand! Tremble and be afraid!

    Is that this lunatic? (see link)

    https://www.facebook.com/TheTruthIsViral

    Seriously paranoid and disturbed.

  2. avatar
    Kiwiwriter September 9, 2013 at 3:20 pm #

    Fogbow has some hilarious Facebook posts from people at the “rally” looking for it, and embarrassed admissions from would-be attendees that they could not make it.

    No sign of hordes of angry police chiefs yet. Looks like business as usual in DC.

    I remember when I was a kid, there was a nutter named William Depperman, who slapped enormous left-wing conspiracy theory posters around Manhattan, on walls, with oceans of 11-point Courier type, spouting the most incredible drivel. They were on my route to and from school, so I would look at them while I waited for the traffic light to change.

    This fella denounced everybody as a CIA stooge, and said that karate actor Bruce Lee’s death was a government conspiracy. He denounced just about everybody as part of the plot, which involved the JFK assassination, the 1980 transit strike, a Mark Lane talk at NYU, and on and on and on.

    His posters drew the attention of Mayor Ed Koch one day, as he was driving in his limo, and Koch saw these ghastly ugly posters defacing walls and phone booths. He told the police to investigate, so they did, sending in an undercover guy to join Depperman’s one-man political party, and catch him in the act. Which the cop did.

    Depperman got arrested and went into the system for the misdemeanor, got his Desk Appearance Ticket, and went back to slapping up posters. His next posters demanded that the masses demonstrate in front of the County Courthouse on the day of the trial.

    After the trial, new posters went up on the walls. These complained that the trial had been delayed three times by government chicanery, and whined that every day that a protest had been scheduled, it had rained, which prevented anyone from attending the protest.

    The poster further noted that the government had admitted to seeding clouds in Vietnam to create thunderstorms and flooding. Depperman was clearly accusing the US government of preventing him from holding a mass protest of millions of supporters by deliberately causing a thundershower on it.

    I could think of a lot simpler and cheaper ways that Uncle Sam could, if it gave a flying frazzoo, prevent millions of people from marching on the courthouse to demand Depperman’s release, but it was obvious to me (if not Depperman) that the reality of the situation was that nobody besides Depperman cared about his plight, either, and the paranoid idiot needed and excuse for the non-rally’s non-existence. So he picked on the silliest one he could find…bad weather. I guess nobody pointed out to him that the Long March wasn’t held up by snow, rain, or gloom of night…whining about the rain was pretty sophomoric.

    I never got the chance to point that out to him, because a few weeks later, his posters stopped appearing, but a Village Voice writer did an article about this daffy character and his whole case. The writer was mostly interested in Depperman’s fascination with Bruce Lee as a revolutionary who needed to be whacked by the capitalists. The article said that after paying his fines and being put on probation, Mr. Depperman fled New York City for somewhere in New England, and that was the last I ever heard of him.

    But his argument…that his grand million-man protest against government oppression (in the form of a DAT) was defeated by rain — and government-produced rain, at that — always kept me in stitches. That had to be the silliest excuse for failure I ever saw. It made the “dog ate the homework” excuse look realistic.

  3. avatar
    aarrgghh September 9, 2013 at 4:17 pm #

    any. minute. now.

    </rwnj>

  4. avatar
    Arthur September 9, 2013 at 4:21 pm #

    How dare you use photographic “evidence” to mock us! If it wasn’t for Al Linskey, you Obots wouldn’t know what sarcasm was!

  5. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 9, 2013 at 6:18 pm #

    Yikes, invisible birthers!

  6. avatar
    john September 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm #

    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking. It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

  7. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 9, 2013 at 6:35 pm #

    Not really:

    http://embed.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement.html

    john: Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking. It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

  8. avatar
    BatGuano September 9, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

    john:
    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking.It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    so, how many people were they short of their expected millions?

  9. avatar
    Bob September 9, 2013 at 6:47 pm #

    Remember that re-doing the Capitol lawn was one of the first projects that Obama proposed? It was something that was needed (as you can see in that photo) and everyone could get behind but Obama-deranged Wingnuts opposed it because SOCIALISM!

    The photo shows that it is indeed being re-done and, according to a friend, is being done using advanced technology and environmentally-friendly solutions.

  10. avatar
    CarlOrcas September 9, 2013 at 7:14 pm #

    john:
    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking.It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    “Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt.”

    Source: Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, whoever.

  11. avatar
    bob September 9, 2013 at 7:16 pm #

    ORYR, Kerchner, etc. yanked the triumphant video of Rep. Woodall blowing off Zullo.

  12. avatar
    Bob September 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm #

    I think the turnout was low/non-existent because people don’t really fear that their guns are going to be taken away or that the government is tyrannical.

  13. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 9, 2013 at 7:21 pm #

    I was writing this article while you were commenting.

    Majority Will: Arthur:
    OMG! I just remembered that today is the day! It’s finally come! Today “We the People,”

  14. avatar
    misha marinsky September 9, 2013 at 7:33 pm #

    Has anyone noticed that the 2nd Amendment absolutists are also absolutely opposed to reproductive freedom?

    They are also absolutely opposed to the 1st Amendment, but I’ve read they’ll make an exception for the Jewish people.

  15. avatar
    Bonsall Obot September 9, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    john:
    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking.It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    Shorter john: “Stop it. This is hard.”

  16. avatar
    justlw September 9, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

    Here’s the view of the National Mall from the Washington Monument at 3:48 PM.

    Zoom in! And… enhance!

    Close-up photo of teeming throng, from the “Walk Like an Egyptian” FB page

    So on the bright side for them, it looks like they did outnumber the attendance of every DC birther rally ever held, combined.

  17. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 9, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

    You guys can’t see the millions of patriots dressed as ninjas?

  18. avatar
    Arthur September 9, 2013 at 8:11 pm #

    john: Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking. It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    True, but all Bobby Powell wanted out of this was a couple of thousand dollars, and yes, his website is set up to take one-time or monthly donations:

    “In order to get to Washington D.C. though, I need your help. The $2,200 it is going to cost me to rent a vehicle and get to D.C. and back with my gear is equal to more than 2 months of my Social Security Disability income. I will gladly throw my own body on the gears to ensure a future for my children and grandchildren, but I need you to get me to the machine.”
    http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2013/07/millions-of-americans-set-to-gather-in.html

    What do you think, John: total idiot or pathetic grifter? Guess we’ll never know until ol’ Bobby reveals how much his scam took in.

  19. avatar
    Arthur September 9, 2013 at 8:13 pm #

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I was writing this article while you were commenting.

    Well, okay.

  20. avatar
    donna September 9, 2013 at 8:13 pm #

    misha marinsky

    scalia said on Friday: Capitalism Requires ‘Traditional Christian Virtues’ To Succeed

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/antonin-scalia-capitalism_n_3894153.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

    does he KNOW he works with JEWS?

    obama appointed Srikanth (“Sri”) Srinivasan, a HINDU, to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, who some legal analysts are floating as a potential frontrunner for the next Supreme Court opening

  21. avatar
    Rickey September 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    john:
    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking.It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    It looks like they had ten people there. I was part of a group of 12 people who spent the weekend at the Jersey shore, and all it cost us to organize it was a few e-mails and phone calls.

  22. avatar
    Arthur September 9, 2013 at 9:02 pm #

    Rickey: It looks like they had ten people there. I was part of a group of 12 people who spent the weekend at the Jersey shore, and all it cost us to organize it was a few e-mails and phone calls.

    Yep. It seems pretty obvious that birtherism is little more than an internet rant club.

  23. avatar
    Benji Franklin September 9, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    john: Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking. It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    I see, John. Just reviewing your expert opinion, it would take millions and millions of dollars organizationally for the organizers to get millions and millions of people who want Obama impeached to show up for the rally.

    Hmmm.

    What was the number of angry Obama haters who the organizer actually got to show up?

    The Facebook page organizer wrote about 2:30 PM:

    “I have walked from the monument to the white house down around the capital building and have not found anyone from the march yet but ran into a lot of good people.”

    That’s ZERO ATTENDANCE, John! Straight from the organizer’s mouth!

    Nobody came, John! Nobody! Using your formula, if they spent $1 on publicity, they should have drawn at least an entire person! And where were the true believers that always join any real populist movement, John?

    Where were the 4 and one-half adults in this country who really believe Obama is an Usurper and that his online informational PDF file that truly conveys the officially confirmed vital birth information from his Hawaiian birth certificate, is instead a “forgery” that makes the likeness’ creator a felon – where are those folks today if they really believe the crazy Birther charges that together with an idiotically alleged stolen security number and a forged selective service registration card, these lunatic ravings constitute ample evidence pointing at the “biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America”?

    Double check! How many attended, again? Count them on your fingers, John! Take the populist temperature of the rotting and pathetically unsupported movement which the silly likes of you can serve as a kind of champion-substitute – your triumph has been in becoming the Birther equivalent of Hamburger Helper.

    You’ve taught us all the rule of Birther Football. To Birthers, moving the goal posts is the only way touchdowns are scored.

  24. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 9, 2013 at 9:15 pm #

    john:
    Organizing a movement like that is a momumental undertaking.It takes literally millions and millions of dollars to organize such a movement whether it be birther or not.

    So, another one of your heroes turns out to be a zero*. But does that stop you from making excuse for them? Hell no!

    *I deeply apologize to the number zero. It isn’t fair to lump it in with scum like Kessler and Zullo. And in all fairness, John probably can’t even count that high.

  25. avatar
    justlw September 9, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

    A couple of reasons why people said they couldn’t Walk Like Egyptians today.

    John R says:

    sorry I did not make it car problems forced me to turn back I wish I could be there with you all so bad, but the good lord has other plans for me right now his will be done I am with you in heart and you and your safety is in my prayers

    Joy B says:

    It is with a very sad heart and deflated spirit that I must tell you all that I can not make it My daughter had to go to Fort Bragg, N.C. and I have to stay with my grandson. I guess there is a good reason why God doesn’t want me there.

    I don’t want to sound disrespectful, but: Tea Party God seems like kind of a jerk, you know?

    Couldn’t He have just left John and Joy notes, maybe burnt into their toast at breakfast? But no, He has to go break the guy’s car and inconvenience innocent family members to keep them away.

    And if He had to bust John’s ride, couldn’t He have done it in John’s driveway instead of making him drive a piece, first?

  26. avatar
    G September 9, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

    ROTFLMAO… ;)

    justlw: I don’t want to be disrespectful, but: Tea Party God seems like kind of a jerk, you know?

    Couldn’t he have just left John and Joy notes, maybe burnt into their toast at breakfast? But no, He has to go break the guy’s car and inconvenience innocent family members to keep them away.

    And if He had to bust John’s car, couldn’t he have done it in John’s driveway instead of making him drive a piece, first?

  27. avatar
    G September 9, 2013 at 9:48 pm #

    BINGO !!!

    Arthur: Yep. It seems pretty obvious that birtherism is little more than an internet rant club.

  28. avatar
    jdkinpa September 9, 2013 at 10:03 pm #

    My small town in PA, population 2,030 at the 2010 census, had two protestors with an impeach Obama sign walking in front of our busiest convenience store. Does this count?

  29. avatar
    misha marinsky September 9, 2013 at 10:04 pm #

    “Walk like an Egyptian” – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

  30. avatar
    misha marinsky September 9, 2013 at 10:08 pm #

    donna: scalia said on Friday: Capitalism Requires ‘Traditional Christian Virtues’ To Succeed

    He’ll never learn how to buy wholesale.

  31. avatar
    JPotter September 9, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

    Suspiciously, the mall looks far emptier than usual, in my experience. It’s bad enough to throw a revolution and have no one show, but to throw a revolution and have everyone run away…!

    Perhaps their chief weapon is surprise, and today was a feint?

    PS — I have not been to the mall since the ’90s, perhaps the security situation has changed? I suppose they could blame the weather, but I’ve been there in the heat of July and there were plenty of diehards about.

    PPS — “Walk like an Egyptian”? Cripes. Do they also admire the giving the country to the military bit? Oh crap, being devotees of the Winger Military Cult, they probably think that’s a great idea. The irony … dreaming of overthrowing imaginary martial law in favor of …. actual martial law.

  32. avatar
    Arthur September 10, 2013 at 12:33 am #

    Benji Franklin: Nobody came, John! Nobody! Using your formula, if they spent $1 on publicity, they should have drawn at least an entire person! And where were the true believers that always join any real populist movement, John?

    Well, birthers are deluded and hate-filled, but they seem to have had enough sense to realize that the goals for this march were so utterly absurd that even they stayed away:

    “9th Day 1, Monday: Demand OUR Right for a Redress of Grievances. A redress properly done INSIDE the Capitol Hill building, not just a protest out on the sidewalk. We will select our group leaders to go inside. Inside will be televised, and we expect our Congressmen of both Houses to be sitting in their seats LISTENING TO US WHEN WE HAVE THE FLOOR….

    “10th Day 2, Tuesday –The Senate and House each has a task to complete:
    a. The House of Representatives must by the end of day vote to Impeach President Obama by a simple majority vote.
    b. The Senate must by end of Day pass by a 3/4th vote for OUR Anti-Bribery Amendment (not a bill to be later forgotten) so neither politicians nor political parties will be paid or get campaign contributions to change our laws.
    c. The Senate must pass by a 3/4th vote on OUR American Equality Amendment to insure ALL Politicians hereafter obey ALL our own laws without any retirements except towards current public programs open to all United States citizens.

    “11th Day 3, Wednesday:
    a. The House must complete a 3/4th vote to pass OUR Anti-Bribery Amendment.
    b. The House must complete a 3/4th vote to pass OUR American Equality Amendment.
    c. The Senate must start Impeachment proceedings.

    “12th Day 4, Thursday:
    a. Once these actions are done to our satisfaction by Congress, Congress will hear from each and every one of us, and address our complaints with the high regard and dignity due us. They will work through the weekend, and every day thereafter until we are all heard. If Congress had permitted us our Redress of Grievances, maybe then they wouldn’t need to hear so many of us!!!”

    https://www.facebook.com/marchondcsept9th

    “They will work through the weekend, and every day thereafter until we are all heard.” Did this idiot ever stop to think that if a million people actually came to this event, and they were all given a chance to complain to their representatives, most of the attendees would be dead before they ever got a chance to speak?

  33. avatar
    The European September 10, 2013 at 2:14 am #

    misha marinsky: He’ll never learn how to buy wholesale.

    “In business it takes three French to match one Jew. But it takes three Jews to match one Armenian!” – that is what Charles Aznavour said

    (And we all know that there are French Armenians – like the great CA himself – so do not take it too literally).

  34. avatar
    Keith September 10, 2013 at 3:27 am #

    Where’s all the port-a-potties they will be needing when the millions show up?

    Police barriers? Refreshment stands? Relay speakers? Security? Emergency medical facilities?

    What the heck do these people think they are doing? Looks like they couldn’t organize a piss-up in a brewery to me.

    Obviously, the organizers wouldn’t be able to figure out how to pour water out of a boot if you wrote the instructions on the heel.

  35. avatar
    Bovril September 10, 2013 at 4:32 am #

    Ahhhhhhh, buts it is all a cunning plan by the RWNJ’s…This was a feint and ploy as the REAL deal is the Million (or is it 2 Million) biker rally on 9/11…..fooled ya..

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3064220/posts

    Of course as happens in Wingnutistan, the sequence of events shows the true paucity of truth and facts……

    Seems originally it was a simple 9/11 drive through as has happend previously to commemerate the victims of 9/11 and the military. Probable headcount a couple of thousand.

    Then them Ebil Mooslems horned in with the “Million Moslem March” or more correctly “Million American March Against Fear”. Of course as with any rally of any ilk, the name disn’t QUITE reflect on ground expectations with…….

    “National Park Service spokesperson Carol Johnson told U.S. News in July that organizers applied for a National Mall permit citing just 1,000 likely participants.”

    The march also appears to have been bolstered by initially some 9/11 truthers and then folks with very understandable issues around the ever increasing Big Brother environment we are living in.

    Of course in Wignutia, that actually means that a Meelion Mooslems will be trampling and peeing on the graves of the fallen and we can’t be having THAT….Ergo the biker rally sudden;y morphed into a bit of a hate fest with TWO MEELION bikers gonna keep them people in their place

    The organizers of said Two Million rally kept on saying “We haz permit”….until suddenly they turned around and said that the Ebil regime had not provided said permit but forget what we kept telling you, “We haz KONSTITITIONAL right to drive bikes through DC, IZ FEERST AMEENDMENT!!”

    Naturally, as soon as some sort of Damn Fine Patriotism reared it’s head, the various tribes of Wingnuttia all decided that the ACTUAL rally was all about them and the various impeachments, hog tieing, tarring and feathering of Damned ‘Rat Lieberal Libtards etc.

    Inevitably, based on applying reality based facts, what will happen is, some bikers will turn out, drive to commemerate appropriately, there will be no marching of frogs, a small and semi literate group of mouth breathing placard wavers will babble about Benghazi, NWO, Syria, impeachmen and stuff and be soundly ignored.

    This will of course be the latest “success” and means that the Demon Prince will be out of office and used as an early Christmas tree decoration.

    ANY….DAY….NOW.

  36. avatar
    Dr Kenneth Noisewater September 10, 2013 at 8:31 am #

    “Failure is an option”

  37. avatar
    alg September 10, 2013 at 8:36 am #

    Dang! I missed it!

  38. avatar
    Andrew Vrba, PmG September 10, 2013 at 9:39 am #

    Those people couldn’t organize a bowel movement, let alone something with millions of people.

  39. avatar
    roadburner September 10, 2013 at 10:41 am #

    looks like they had even less than they get at their `overpass protests.

    ah well, guess itll make oily feel better about her last historic protest

  40. avatar
    misha marinsky September 10, 2013 at 10:53 am #

    The European: “In business it takes three French to match one Jew. But it takes three Jews to match one Armenian!”

    One Russian is a revolution.
    Two Russians is the Kremlin.
    Three Russians is the Red Army.
    Four Russians is the Budapest String Quartet.

  41. avatar
    roadburner September 10, 2013 at 12:34 pm #

    ive already pissed of a lot of folks on stateside bike websites about showing a pavlovian response regarding the `million muslim march (of which the organisation trying to get it going has 9 members ) and the 2 million bike march.

    theres something they also havent considered.

    just for 200,000 bikes

    X 16 ft (bike length and space between) = 3,200,000 feet, or 609 miles

    if you ride side by side, its still over 300 miles!

    houston, i think we have a logistical problem!

    and it gets better, as 500,000 bikes in staggered formation would come out to about 1532 miles in length.

    there will be a turnout (mainly because bikers will use any excuse to ride together in a group and go for a beer after), but nothing as big as the dreamers want, even though the dog-whistle word `muslim has been used.

  42. avatar
    roadburner September 10, 2013 at 12:59 pm #

    oops! i also forgot to factor in the space needed for the recovery trucks.

    thered be a lot of harleys there :D

  43. avatar
    Benji Franklin September 10, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    bob: ORYR, Kerchner, etc. yanked the triumphant video of Rep. Woodall blowing off Zullo.

    They sure did! And that act summarizes the brick wall of reality that the legally absurd Arpaio/Zullo/Gallups “forgery” premise disintegrates against when anyone who respects and knows the law, (in this case Representative Woodall, who has a law degree) can immediately sees how empty their false charges against Obama actually are.

    The fact that ORYR let the second clip, which was headlined with “On The Record: Rep. Woodall And Lt. Zullo Talk Obama ID Fraud; Phony Forged Document ” be seen at all suggests their editor is not getting enough sleep.

    That headline, in keeping with the core Birther principle of ‘always lie and misrepresent what has actually happened’, wants the reader to think there was a mutually reinforcing conversation between Zullo and Woodall embracing the notion that ID Fraud had been committed by or for Obama. The headline also gratuitously adds the expression “Phony Forged Documents”, exhibiting yet another common Birther assault on logic, the fallacious assignment of existential import to an unproven assertion, by just mentioning it as though it is a proven fact.

    The Obama-hating CCP crowd begins by prepostering that they started on this project to prove that the birth certificate was legitimate! Yeah, sure. Their real goal is to conflate the laws that forbid the production of likenesses of currency and which outlaw the use of forged identity documents to intentionally defraud a person, with the White House’s perfectly legal production of an informational PDF file placed online that faithfully showed what his vital birth information was, as confirmed by the State of Hawaii.

    Zullo goes on and on to Woodal about how anomalies verify that such a PDF file is a “forgery” and worries out loud to the Representative, about how this likeness published online, was not itself conveyed by an unbroken chain of custody after leaving Hawaii. That’s absurd on its face, since the likeness created at the Whitehouse, was never in Hawaii, and anyway, only purported to accurately reflect the birth information on the original in Hawaii.

    Woodall runs out of patience listening at this point and states his disagreement with the document fraud charge much more forcibly than on the clip of the previous contact, (a few days earlier) in which he (Woodall) suggested that he thought that the Zullo/Gallup perspective was one that “misinterpreted” the PDF file and it’s intended purpose.

    In the second clip which you correctly noted, has been removed Woodall makes it a little clearer that it’s obvious that a fraudulent attempt to use the PDF illegally has not happened, when he responds to Zullo on the phone by proclaiming that the accusers are imagining an event (for example, Obama submitting the PDF to some governmental agency as identification) which simply never happened.

    I contend these Birthers also know that no crime has been committed. They simply hoped to get an embarrassing rumor mill campaign started that would go viral and wound the Obama Presidency somehow. They seek a Kangaroo Congressional Investigation hoping only that some embarrassing evidence of SOMETHING would be uncovered.

    What sad sack liars! Another one of their heralded VIP’s craps on their parade, so they immediately scrub the evidence of their hollow charges and their disagreeing VIP vanguard.

    NBC blew them out of the document fraud water with the Xerox explanation. Now another VIP confirms that their flawed premise couldn’t stay afloat their anyway.

  44. avatar
    Curious George September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm #

    Benji Franklin,
    “What sad sack liars! Another one of their heralded VIP’s craps on their parade, so they immediately scrub the evidence of their hollow charges and their disagreeing VIP vanguard.”

    This mirrors their organized effort to conceal the race code errors reported by His Excellence and Most High, Mr. Z on July 17, 2012. The Birther leaders are as dishonest as they come. Their effort is not honorable. They are not seeking the truth. Eventually even the most ignorant Birther will realize they’ve been taken for a ride. Are you having a light bulb moment, John?

  45. avatar
    Majority Will September 10, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    The RWNJs Held a Rally and Nobody Showed Up
    TUE SEP 10, 2013 AT 08:27 AM PDT

    “Here’s a shot of the National Mall at 3:48 pm yesterday (courtesy of the birther debunking blog Obama Conspiracy Theories.)”

    “Scattered reports from Twitter and Facebook indicate a couple of dozen people wandered around DC trying to find the rest of the group. All in all, a major FAIL.”

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/10/1237802/-The-RWNJs-Held-a-Rally-and-Nobody-Showed-Up

  46. avatar
    Daniel September 10, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    Arthur: Did this idiot ever stop to think…

    Ummmmmm…. no

  47. avatar
    Rennie September 10, 2013 at 9:14 pm #

    I can give an eyewitness report as I was in a cab passing through the National Mall between 2 and 2:30 pm on Monday. We were not delayed by hordes of birthers. As far as I can tell, DC was pretty much running as normal and I only had the standard wait for a latte at the illy at M and New Hampshire.

  48. avatar
    G September 10, 2013 at 10:13 pm #

    I agree completely with this part of what you said:

    Curious George: The Birther leaders are as dishonest as they come. Their effort is not honorable. They are not seeking the truth.

    Here, however, I think you are being to optimistic. These sad-sack remnants are pretty much permanently stuck on stupid. Sure, some “may” eventually realize that they are being nothing but fleeced, but if they couldn’t figure that out by now….*sheesh*. I expect quite a few of them will remain doubling down on throwing their money away on these scams, no matter what and regardless of how irrelevant they are and how many false promises and endless failures their “birther leaders” shovel them John is probably one of them.

    I’ve learned from this whole experience that willful ignorance can be in unlimited supply… At some point, they’ll simply pass away, having wasted a good portion of their life, money, time on a nonsensical and meaningless hate cause. Their loss and the world will continue on, mostly without even noticing they were ever here or are gone.

    Curious George: Eventually even the most ignorant Birther will realize they’ve been taken for a ride. Are you having a light bulb moment, John?

  49. avatar
    Kamrom September 10, 2013 at 11:03 pm #

    Wait, I fell asleep. is it over? Has the country been overthrown? Odd. It was such a good plan too.

  50. avatar
    RanTalbott September 11, 2013 at 2:47 am #

    justlw: Close-up photo of teeming throng,

    Hmmm, I count 8 protestors in that photo (the two at the far end don’t seem to be part of the group). So, add the photographer, and you have … (wait for it…)

    The 9/9 Nine

    Or, if you want to be nasty, you could just call the whole flop “The 9/9 ‘Nein'”.

    (I _was_ going to put an exclamation point after the “Nein”, but I realized that implied a level of emotion that just wasn’t there ;-) )

    Or, for the nerds in the audience, the “.000001M Moron March”.

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    Keith September 11, 2013 at 3:56 am #

    RanTalbott: Or, if you want to be nasty, you could just call the whole flop “The 9/9 ‘Nein’”.

    So then, when the flop is completed, its the 666?

  52. avatar
    Tim September 11, 2013 at 9:38 am #

    “Ordinary citizens are not the only people up in arms over the tyrannical policies of the Obama administration.”

    Ordinary citizens? I call them extraordinarily stupid, deranged, deluded.

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    Woodrowfan September 11, 2013 at 10:23 am #

    OK, it wasn’t so much a “march” as it was a “saunter about looking at the monuments.”

  54. avatar
    Thomas Brown September 11, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    RanTalbott: “The 9/9 ‘Nein’”

    Nice.

  55. avatar
    roadburner September 11, 2013 at 12:21 pm #

    i left a post on ORYR passing comment on the huge turnout they got.

    looks like im banned there – again :D

    they have been most quiet about it. i wonder if theyll keep posting about the `overpass protests. probably, as they get more of a turnout than the DC protest did

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    justlw September 11, 2013 at 5:10 pm #

    What if this week was the Rapture, and the only true Christians were those who went to protest in DC?

    …including the missing million Muslims?

    Have I blown your mind?

  57. avatar
    Arthur September 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

    justlw: …including the missing million Muslims?

    Think of all the hummus going to waste!

  58. avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy September 11, 2013 at 5:26 pm #

    The number of visitors to the site nearly tripled yesterday, I think because of the link to this article from The Daily KOS.

  59. avatar
    Arthur September 11, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

    misha marinsky: “Walk like an Egyptian”

    I know that The Bangles performed live (saw them in the summer of ’85), but they’re lip synching in this video (which is supposed to be a live performance). Notice that Debbi Peterson, the band’s drummer, isn’t sitting at her kit and no one is actually playing percussion. Also, there’s no sign of a keyboard player. Finally, their guitars show no evidence of being plugged into amps. Nevertheless, a fun band for summer vacation frolics–and they’re still performing.

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    The Magic M September 12, 2013 at 8:00 am #

    roadburner: regarding the `million muslim march (of which the organisation trying to get it going has 9 members ) and the 2 million bike march

    Basically it’s been a weak turnout in response to a non-existing turnout.

    The problem with wingnuts is that they always love to generalize in order to build straw men.
    If three guys in their basement dream up a “Million Muslim March”, their right-wing counterparts act as if the Pope himself had called on all Catholics to attend.
    If some guy in a cave in Papoopistan croaks “kill all Mericans”, they claim “Islam declares war on US”.
    If some Democrat in Lost Marbles, TX, says “maybe we should not give guns to children”, they go “Democrat Party demands nullification of 2nd Amendment” and so on.

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    G September 12, 2013 at 5:04 pm #

    Well said on all points!

    The Magic M: Basically it’s been a weak turnout in response to a non-existing turnout.

    The problem with wingnuts is that they always love to generalize in order to build straw men.
    If three guys in their basement dream up a “Million Muslim March”, their right-wing counterparts act as if the Pope himself had called on all Catholics to attend.
    If some guy in a cave in Papoopistan croaks “kill all Mericans”, they claim “Islam declares war on US”.
    If some Democrat in Lost Marbles, TX, says “maybe we should not give guns to children”, they go “Democrat Party demands nullification of 2nd Amendment” and so on.