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Virginia Company Charter of 1612

vamap1612Here is another in the line of colonial charters that treat the phrase “natural born”. What we have seen so far is that all consider those born in the colony as its natural born subjects, with no regard for the citizenship of the parents.

The Virginia Company charter of 1612 empowered the company to admit to its membership

“any Person or Persons, as well as Strangers and Aliens … being in Amity with us, or as any our natural Liege Subjects born in any of our Realms and Dominions.”1

This exemplifies American attitudes towards citizenship in allegiance, generations before Emerich de Vattel was even born.

1 Virginia Charter of 1611/12, in Thorpe, ed, and comp., Constitutions, Charters and Laws, VII, 3806,3807.


16 Responses to Virginia Company Charter of 1612

  1. misha August 11, 2009 at 1:41 pm  (Quote) #

    This is what makes us unique: we have had birthright citizenship, almost from the beginning. And parents’ status is irrelevant.

    Birthers will never let go.

  2. AdrianInFlorida August 11, 2009 at 3:03 pm  (Quote) #

    yeah, but the Virginia Company Charter mysteriously leaves out what the status of those “Person or persons” are if they are black and if they are born to Kenyan fathers…..It’s a plot going back to 1612, I tell ‘ya.

  3. misha August 11, 2009 at 4:08 pm  (Quote) #

    As I wrote before: you’ll really see mental gymnastics when Corey Booker announces.

    This crowd is just getting warmed up.

  4. jtx August 11, 2009 at 7:12 pm  (Quote) #


    So … you really admit right there in front of God and everyone that you don’t know what “Liege Subjects” are???

  5. AdrianInFlorida August 11, 2009 at 7:19 pm  (Quote) #

    OMG,he’s blacker than that Obama fella, what are we gonna do to save our country from all these usurpers?!?!?!?


  6. Bob August 11, 2009 at 7:23 pm  (Quote) #

    1612 documents deserve 1612 maps!

  7. misha August 11, 2009 at 8:18 pm  (Quote) #

    I’m sorry, but the connection to a feudal lord escapes me.

    Please explain the relationship. Oh, wait – I get it. Obama has turned us into a vassal state. Am I close?

    This gets nuttier by the hour.

    BTW, I’m agnostic. Hercules is the son of Zeus and a human woman. Jesus is based on the goddess Isis and her son Horus. So invoking the deity does nothing for me.

  8. anon August 11, 2009 at 8:20 pm  (Quote) #

    “Booker was born in Washington, D.C.”

    DC isn’t a State!!! How can he be a citizen of the United STATES ??!!?!??!!!?!

  9. Dr. Conspiracy August 11, 2009 at 8:34 pm  (Quote) #

    Al Gore already broke the “DC barrier”.

  10. misha August 11, 2009 at 8:49 pm  (Quote) #

    “DC isn’t a State!!! How can he be a citizen of the United STATES ??!!?!??!!!?!”

    You’re laughing now; just wait. That’s EXACTLY what the birthers are going to use as their argument. And when that doesn’t go anywhere, they’re going to start he was born in Canada. Or they’ll create some twisted logic invoking Dred Scott.

    They have lawsuits for Piyush ready to go – you know, the 2-parent rule which only Orly, Puzo and Donofrio can find in the 14th.

    The spirit of Gerald L. K. Smith lives on.

  11. anon August 11, 2009 at 10:57 pm  (Quote) #

    Al Gore was never president. !!!11!!!!1!11!! (Barrier not broken(

  12. jtx August 11, 2009 at 11:08 pm  (Quote) #


    I doubt that anyone gives a rat’s ass whether you’re agnostic or have herpes. It’s not about YOU at all but about your lack of understanding what was said.

    But all of your false claims and misdirection (not to mention the forger BC and other documentation you promulgate and proclaim as valid means nothing at all.

    The real issue is whether or not Obama is legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies … and that will be decided in court with formal evidence rather than the image-manipulated nonsense the Flying Monkeys have been promoting.

  13. dunstvangeet August 11, 2009 at 11:26 pm  (Quote) #

    Read the 12th Amendment, anon. Especially the final sentence. It confirms that Al Gore broke the D.C. Barrier, anon.

  14. Shrieking wombat August 12, 2009 at 3:25 am  (Quote) #

    I won’t link, but Orly’s having a complete meltdown over Judge Lazarra’s dismissal of her motion to re-hear Cook and recuse Lazarra.

    Deliciously, he sealed his reasons for decision.

    There are sprockets and hydraulic oil and bits of rubber flying everywhere.

  15. Chris August 12, 2009 at 11:43 am  (Quote) #

    Orly is wrong, as usual. The judge did not “seal” his reasons. He simply did not give any detailed account of his reasons. The federal rules of civil procedure do not require a judge to give detailed reasons (in the form of a memorandum opinion or otherwise) to justify every order the judge issues.

  16. Shrieking wombat August 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm  (Quote) #

    “Orly is wrong, as usual.”


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