Reality Check Radio interview with Patrick Colliano

3 Responses to Reality Check Radio interview with Patrick Colliano

1. Reality Check says:

   December 22, 2011 at 11:17 am  Reality Check(Quote)

   Patrick was an interesting guest. He is quite knowledgeable on the Birther claims on the Minor v Happersett and Wong Kim Ark cases. I found his view on the status of persons born outside the US to one citizen parent to be particularly interesting. He quoted USC Title 8 Section 1401 Paragraph G:

   “(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
   (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
   (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and ..”
   

   Birthers have always argued that if Barack Obama were born in Kenya his mother was not old enough to convey US citizenship by the laws in force at the time. This section seems to directly contradict that claim. So even if Barack Obama were born in Kenya he would have been made a natural born citizen retroactively by the current US laws.
2. dunstvangeet says:

   December 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm  dunstvangeet(Quote)

   RC, it is a debate whether or not someone can be made an NBC retroactively, though. And that is actually an honest debate, rather than this “It requires two citizen parents to be an NBC” crap that the birthers are peddling.
3. Dr. Conspiracy says:

   December 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm  Dr. Conspiracy(Quote)

   And it is debatable whether someone born a US Citizen outside the United States is NBC.

   dunstvangeet: RC, it is a debate whether or not someone can be made an NBC retroactively, though.

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