The occasional open thread: Gone but not forgotten

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108 Responses to The occasional open thread: Gone but not forgotten

  1. Dave B. says:

    Publius Huldah’s been going on about coverture:
    https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/natural-born-citizen-and-coverture/
    and it’s been getting plastered all over the internet.
    “The Man is the one who counts!”
    How far behind can Dred Scott be?

  2. Punchmaster via Mobile says:

    It’s been a while since the birthers crowed so much as a note about Shurfjoke and his pet Capuchin, Zullo. Maybe they woke up and realized the A/Z dream is dead.

  3. Huffington Post
    Yer Mama’s an Anchor Baby, and Other Electoral Silliness

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-luz/yer-mamas-an-anchor-baby-_b_8017034.html

  4. Dave B. says:

    Doc, theres a cussword so-and-so taking your name in vain over at the Chico Enterprise-Record:
    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chicoer/letter_are_those_birthers_still_ranting_about_obama/#comment-2208929449

  5. Keith says:

    Eat ’em up Dave.

    I just ‘had’ to respond to ‘the 4 points’, but have lost access to my disqus account. By the time I had made a new one, you guys had exceeded any possible input from me.

    Well done.

  6. Dave B. says:

    I’m loaded for bear on that one. I’ve got the Kenya Gazette from the same day Obama’s birth certificate was filed and everything. I actually cut down the Kenya-was-Kenya references I usually use.
    But ain’t it ironic that somebody’s opening salvo is a barrage of inept lies, and then they reload to fire some more of ’em at Doc?

    Keith:
    Eat ’em up Dave.

    I just ‘had’ to respond to ‘the 4 points’, but have lost access to my disqus account. By the time I had made a new one, you guys had exceeded any possible input from me.

    Well done.

  7. Keith says:

    Dave B.: Publius Huldah’s been going on about coverture:

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  8. Keith says:

    I spilled coffee on my keyboard, and now I gotta use this tiny ’emergency’ wireless one.

    I HATE TYPING WITH TWO FINGERS! This thing is too small! Where are the HOME/END/PAGE UP/PAGE DOWN keys? What the heck are those silly icons above the function keys and why aren’t the function keys the default selection? Razzacraps to the max! I hate scratchpads – this is NOT a laptop fer cryin out loud.

  9. Dave B. says:

    I don’t know what I’d do without a regular keyboard.

    Keith:
    I spilled coffee on my keyboard, and now I gotta use this tiny ’emergency’ wireless one.

    I HATE TYPING WITH TWO FINGERS! This thing is too small! Where are the HOME/END/PAGE UP/PAGE DOWN keys? What the heck are those silly icons above the function keys and why aren’t the function keys the default selection? Razzacraps to the max! I hate scratchpads – this is NOT a laptop fer cryin out loud.

  10. Rickey says:

    Dave B.:
    I’m loaded for bear on that one.I’ve got the Kenya Gazette from the same day Obama’s birth certificate was filed and everything.I actually cut down the Kenya-was-Kenya references I usually use.
    But ain’t it ironic that somebody’s opening salvo is a barrage of inept lies, and then they reload to fire some more of ’em at Doc?

    You certainly eviscerated Mr. Mullins.

    I’m always fascinated by birthers who “quote” from Obama’s book when they clearly have never read any of it. Apparently Mullins has never seen Obama’s birth certificate, either.

  11. Dave B. says:

    Tough room to play over there, ain’t it?

    Keith:
    Eat ’em up Dave.

    I just ‘had’ to respond to ‘the 4 points’, but have lost access to my disqus account. By the time I had made a new one, you guys had exceeded any possible input from me.

    Well done.

  12. Dave B. says:

    So Doc– those “4 questions” like that doofus copied over at the Chico etcetera are supposed to be from a certain “reputable attorney.” I’ve often wondered what was up with that. As it turns out, I just looked at his Google reviews. They’re all about these “4 questions from a reputable attorney.” And according to the replies to those reviews, he says he didn’t write them:
    “I did not write that and I do not know how to get it removed from my name.”
    That might make an interesting story.

  13. Dave B. says:

    Okay, I been doing a custom date-range search for those “4 questions.” Found this over at the Weekly World News, January 6, 2012:
    http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/42157/obama-birth-certificate-fake/

  14. And he complained about Salon.com. 😯

    Dave B.: Found this over at the Weekly World News, January 6, 2012:

  15. Dave B. says:

    I figured he picked up on Salon from the picture of Donald Trump’s hand. That’s why I wanted to pin him down on specifics there. Anyway, what I’m looking for is the earliest connection between this mess and that attorney. It looks like this showed up first mighty soon after the long form came out:

    https://prof77.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/obamas-birth-certificate-curious-discrepancies-evidence-of-forgery/

    Now that’s almost as far back as that could go, but I want to find the first “reputable attorney” connection.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    And he complained about Salon.com. 😯

  16. Keith says:

    So “4 questions” were ‘asked’ at least as long ago as 2011 but have still not been answered? Doesn’t anybody read the internet anymore?

    Seriously, between the anti-evolutionists who think biologists stopped thinking when Darwin published “The Origen of Species” and the deniers of human caused climate change who think that because one scientist says the glaciers are melting at 5 centimeters a day and another says the glaciers are melting at 6 centimeters a month (I made those stats up) that ‘there is no agreement about Global Warming in scientific circles, this place is going crazy.

    I thought the internet was supposed to make it easy for bad ideas to be corrected, for the uneducated to ‘get better’. In reality it is just a high speed rail to ignorance.

  17. Dave B. says:

    As it turns out, when I looked at that prof77 page on the Wayback Machine, the “4 questions” appear to have been added as an update, sometime after the latest available version of the page. It does appear to have been collected as an e-mail with the “reputable attorney” part, here:
    http://www.armsmart.com/includes/emails/2012/4SimpleQuestions.html
    sometime in 2012. So it’s looking to me like it DID start at the Weekly World News, although they only had the first three “questions.”

    Keith: So “4 questions” were ‘asked’ at least as long ago as 2011 but have still not been answered? Doesn’t anybody read the internet anymore?

  18. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Dave B.:
    As it turns out, when I looked at that prof77 page on the Wayback Machine, the “4 questions” appear to have been added as an update, sometime after the latest available version of the page.It does appear to have been collected as an e-mail with the “reputable attorney” part, here:
    http://www.armsmart.com/includes/emails/2012/4SimpleQuestions.html
    sometime in 2012.So it’s looking to me like it DID start at the Weekly World News, although they only had the first three “questions.”

    I’m trying to remember the last person who was pushing those supposed bad 4 questions. Was it Adrian Nash? I can’t remember it was one of the more crazy of the birthers.

  19. y_p_w says:

    Keith:
    I spilled coffee on my keyboard, and now I gotta use this tiny ’emergency’ wireless one.

    Is it under warranty? Granted, I’ve heard of people spilling liquids on their laptop keyboards (replacing a desktop keyboard is trivial) and hoping that they might be fixed under warranty – especially if it was just water. Then they found out that the laptop contains moisture detectors (electronic and/or chemical) that can detect when liquid has entered the case. The “liquid submersion indicators” are little stickers that turn color in the presence of enough water. Some of the more advanced methods include electronic detection, but that’s typically to control internal humidity (i.e. turn on a fan) although I suspect that a “catastrophic event” might be recorded somehow.

  20. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Anything of interest happen in the world of Birthers or Shufjoke this weekend? I’ve had my nose buried in 2DS for most of it.

  21. All I heard is that the Melendres status conference dealt with technical issues, and that we can expect some sort of order from Judge Snow. The court docket shows a “Sealed Lodged Proposed Document” along with a “SEALED motion to seal a document.” It looks like there’s some switching of attorneys.

    The mainstream media has published several articles on birthright citizenship.

  22. Keith says:

    y_p_w: Is it under warranty?

    No, no longer on warranty (receipts? who keeps receipts?) – not waranteed for accident. I let it dry out over night and it still is cactus. The good news is that the model is still current and now costs about a third of what I paid three years ago. That’s a bargain I reckon. I think its the best general use keyboard going – Microsoft Natural Ergo 4000. So I’ve go it replaced now. I really like the feel of that keyboard and the curved/split keypad.

    The kicker is that I decided that a Logitech G910 Orion Spark looked like it could be programmed with macros do a lot of repetitive things that I do in my program development environment (Delphi) – and the ae502 mouse 8-). I don’t do gaming though so this thing is probably way overkill – especially since I’m not liking the feel of it all that much yet.

    I’m typing this on the G910 and I am making a lot of mistakes. I’m used to the curve/split of the EN4000. It might get relegated to my Linux/Windows Experiments machine (I was using that little wireless Logitech K400r I was complaining about yesterday) if I can’t get used to it.

  23. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    Keith: I thought the internet was supposed to make it easy for bad ideas to be corrected, for the uneducated to ‘get better’. In reality it is just a high speed rail to ignorance.

    It multiplies dumb ideas which, by human nature, have always had a tendency to win over good ideas.
    As one example, the German law on online shopping was changed in 2002. You still find thousands of offers on eBay quoting “the new European Union regulations” when referring to said change (getting both the source and the age of the change severely wrong). It simply won’t die because everyone copies from somebody else who got it wrong.

  24. You use the Ctrl J code insight thingy?

    Keith: repetitive things that I do in my program development environment (Delphi) a

  25. Keith says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    You use the Ctrl J code insight thingy?

    I used to use it a little, sorta forgot about it recently. It can be quite useful, especially to find the right template, but mostly I just use as-you-type code insight. With the Logitech keyboard, so far I haven’t been able to figure out how to program the programmable buttons. I’m pretty sure I’ll switch back to the Microsoft Keyboard anyway.

    But I’ve been spending my time today trying to figure out how to setup my new Logitech Harmony Ultimate to replace the old Harmony One+. Well folk, I’m telling you, you can’t, unless you have a very simple setup, in which case you didn’t need the One+ in the first place.

    The genius of the Harmony Remote Control was built around ACTIVITIES: watch TV, Watch DVD, Listen to Radio; whatever. They are now trying to build it around FAVORITES and there is only one set of favorites and they can only be assigned to one activity. Totally 100% USELESS – you need to have favorites for every source, not one favorite source with dedicated shortcuts.

    If you have two TV activities, say CABLE and FREE-TO-AIR, then you have different channels and different favorites for each. With the ‘new’ (apparently people have been complaining about this for 3 years now) if you are on some arbitrary activity and press a favorite button, it kills the activity you are in and switches to the watch TV activity.

    Hopeless. How could they screw up their single most important market differentiator like that.

  26. y_p_w says:

    Keith: No, no longer on warranty (receipts? who keeps receipts?) – not waranteed for accident. I let it dry out over night and it still is cactus. The good news is that the model is still current and now costs about a third of what I paid three years ago. That’s a bargain I reckon. I think its the best general use keyboard going – Microsoft Natural Ergo 4000. So I’ve go it replaced now. I really like the feel of that keyboard and the curved/split keypad.

    Several coworkers have used one of those split keyboards. So in any case it sounds pretty easy to replace, although it sounds like you’ve had yours programmed for specific tasks.

  27. Rickey says:

    Keith:

    But I’ve been spending my time today trying to figure out how to setup my new Logitech Harmony Ultimate to replace the old Harmony One+. Well folk, I’m telling you, you can’t, unless you have a very simple setup, in which case you didn’t need the One+ in the first place.

    The genius of the Harmony Remote Control was built around ACTIVITIES: watch TV, Watch DVD, Listen to Radio; whatever. They are now trying to build it around FAVORITES and there is only one set of favorites and they can only be assigned to one activity. Totally 100% USELESS – you need to have favorites for every source, not one favorite source with dedicated shortcuts.

    If you have two TV activities, say CABLE and FREE-TO-AIR, then you have different channels and different favorites for each. With the ‘new’ (apparently people have been complaining about this for 3 years now) if you are on some arbitrary activity and press a favorite button, it kills the activity you are in and switches to the watch TV activity.

    Hopeless. How could they screw up their single most important market differentiator like that.

    Wow. I have the Harmony One and I love it. I hope I won’t have to replace it anytime soon.

  28. Rickey says:

    Ken Burns: Birther Movement Is ‘Politer Way Of Saying The N-Word’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ken-burns-birther-movement-confederate

  29. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Rickey:
    Ken Burns: Birther Movement Is ‘Politer Way Of Saying The N-Word’

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ken-burns-birther-movement-confederate

    Looks like he delivered a real burn!

    …I’ll go stand in the corner.

  30. Keith says:

    y_p_w: although it sounds like you’ve had yours programmed for specific tasks.

    not really because its not really programmable. Its got some extra keys that you can assign favorite commands to, but thats just program invocation – not macro execution.

    I was hoping to get the logitech to do that, but haven’t spent enough time with it to figure it out.

  31. y_p_w says:

    Keith: not really because its not really programmable. Its got some extra keys that you can assign favorite commands to, but thats just program invocation – not macro execution.

    I was hoping to get the logitech to do that, but haven’t spent enough time with it to figure it out.

    My fun with keyboards is that I can apparently plug in a generic USB keyboard into my Blu-Ray player with various functions like free internet movies and YouTube. You can select alphanumeric characters (for searches) with the remote but it’s a pain. The USB port is really meant for a memory device but apparently it recognizes keyboards and will allow entry with an external keyboard. Haven’t tried with my satellite box though.

  32. Keith says:

    y_p_w: My fun with keyboards is that I can apparently plug in a generic USB keyboard into my Blu-Ray player with various functions like free internet movies and YouTube.You can select alphanumeric characters (for searches) with the remote but it’s a pain.The USB port is really meant for a memory device but apparently it recognizes keyboards and will allow entry with an external keyboard.Haven’t tried with my satellite box though.

    COOL! I gotta try that with my BluRay and my TV! I never thought to just plug in a keyboard and see if it worked, but I sure complained to myself that my ‘internet ready TV’ with a built-in browser was actually impossible to use.

  33. y_p_w says:

    Keith: COOL! I gotta try that with my BluRay and my TV! I never thought to just plug in a keyboard and see if it worked, but I sure complained to myself that my ‘internet ready TV’ with a built-in browser was actually impossible to use.

    Well – I found out it doesn’t work with my DISH Network receiver. And the irony is that it has three USB ports. However, I found someone who claims that he could use his mouse on his receiver. Maybe his was a different model or has different firmware.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h-nkeHAOaw

    Heck – I don’t think my Blu-Ray player cost more than $70 retail. I got it almost four years ago using credit card points and it still works, although I’m getting this message that YouTube will no longer be supported by Google for this machine (apparently they discontinued the API that works with my older player). It doesn’t have built-in WiFi which might have been nice. It should be pretty cheap to replace this thing with something more advanced.

    I suppose the main thing is that I’m supposed to be able to hook up a USB flash drive or something to store video content or use for Blu-Ray Deluxe. I can insert a data disc with images and view it. However, I remember searching for videos was a huge pain trying to type a number and then use the direction arrows.

  34. Dave B. says:

    They’re recycling Orly’s 21-days press release from Taitz v. Colvin over at the American News, same exact story, word-for-word, same headline, that the US Patriot used over a year ago. But that took me back to an old Freedom Outpost article about it, where I found this nugget some birther wrote in response to somebody pointing out that the story was past its sell-by date:

    “It is rather Obvious that You Linda have no concept of how the clogs of the Legal System works; time is most often a Positive for facts seem to come to the surface as more understanding and knowledge of a Person and or Event tend to Prove Out!!!”

    The “clogs of the Legal System.” They do move in mysterious ways…

  35. Keith says:

    Dave B.: The “clogs of the Legal System.” They do move in mysterious ways…

    Indeed.

    Flash Mob!

    Its the American Way

    Gangnam Style?

  36. I found one Harmony One Plus for sale on eBay (and a bunch of plain Harmony One’s).

    Keith: But I’ve been spending my time today trying to figure out how to setup my new Logitech Harmony Ultimate to replace the old Harmony One+.

  37. I left this reply:

    In the United States, it is not the parents who determine the citizenship of their children under the Constitution, but the child’s place of birth. In fact [the] first Congress had to pass a law (The Naturalization Act of 1790) to prevent the alienage of the children of US fathers born abroad.

    The Chancery Court of New York in the case of Lynch v. Clarke (1844), in an extensive historical analysis prior to the 14th Amendment, concluded that the term “natural born citizen” derives from the English Common Law’s ancient principle of birth within the realm and within the allegiance of the King, conferring natural born subjecthood, without regard to the citizenship of the parents.

    The US Supreme Court affirmed this common law principle in the case of US v. Wong. The Court cited Dicey’s “Digest of the Law of England with reference to the Conflict of Laws” (calling it careful and thoughtful) which says “’Natural-born British subject’ means a British subject who has become a British subject at the moment of his birth.” Dicey goes on in his book (in the same chapter cited by the Supreme Court) to explain that of those natural born subjects, there are two types–those who became subjects at birth under the Common Law, and those who became subjects at birth by statute.

    At the time of the ratification of the Constitution, these principles were in force in all the thirteen original states, and were the law of the land under the Constitution (except in regard to the special case of slaves and Indians) until birthright citizenship was more explicitly codified in the 14th Amendment.

    Dave B.: Publius Huldah’s been going on about coverture:

  38. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I found one Harmony One Plus for sale on eBay (and a bunch of plain Harmony One’s).

    I just upgraded to the new harmony ultimate. I would have sent you my old harmony one

  39. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Keith: But I’ve been spending my time today trying to figure out how to setup my new Logitech Harmony Ultimate to replace the old Harmony One+. Well folk, I’m telling you, you can’t, unless you have a very simple setup, in which case you didn’t need the One+ in the first place.

    I set mine up pretty easy through the phone app. Got it controlling my xbox two tvs bluray player and window ac unit.

  40. Keith says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I found one Harmony One Plus for sale on eBay (and a bunch of plain Harmony One’s).

    Yeah, and notice that the price for them is more than the current model, the Ultimate One. Just shows to go ya.

  41. Keith says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I set mine up pretty easy through the phone app.Got it controlling my xbox two tvs bluray player and window ac unit.

    Phone App? I’ll have to check it out. Do you get separate favorites for each TV activity?

  42. gorefan says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I left this reply:

    She responded to it with misinformation.

  43. Dave B. says:

    The entity known as brianroysinput made a big hoopdedo about that over at the thing that will not die. He went nuts when I called it a malignant anachronism. Told him he had pulled it moldering from its grave; which wasn’t exactly fair. He ain’t the one did the digging. He’s just parading the stinking corpse around.

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I left this reply:

  44. Dave B. says:

    Another birther genius weighs in over at the American News:

    “If all your people were smart. You didn’t know that Obama is a prodigy of Henry Kissinger and colon pal for the New World Order. If that happens he will never leave the White House check it out”

  45. Bonsall Obot says:

    Dave B.:
    … a prodigy of Henry Kissinger and colon pal…

    General Powell deserves better than this birfoon’s voice-recognition software.
    But not much better.

  46. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Since A/Z Day has been cancelled, BR is back to recycling the “Subud cult” theory, involving some guy who, if you squint really hard, with all the lights turned off, and its the third Wednesday in October, and you’re wearing just your left sock, during a thunderstorm, still looks nothing like the President!

    I don’t get why they’re trying to prove someone other than Obama Sr was his dad. Even in the most plausible(And it’s birthers were talking, so that word is reallllly being stretched thin here) scenario, it doesn’t discount his American birth by blood. So what’s the point?

  47. Jim says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: “Since A/Z Day has been cancelled…”

    You know, we might be missing something here. Why can’t we have our own A/Z Day? You know, a complete summary of birther failures from A-Z…with particular emphasis on A and Z. Have it as a celebration of Obama’s time in office. That’d drive the birthers batty. 😀

  48. Jim says:

    Bonsall Obot:

    Dave B.:
    … a prodigy of Henry Kissinger and colon pal…

    “General Powell deserves better than this birfoon’s voice-recognition software.
    But not much better.”

    Are you sure? Maybe his colon pal is just a pile of sh*t..like his writing.

  49. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Bonsall Obot: General Powell

    Any time I hear or read his name, I remember this time back when I was a teenager. I used MS Paint(or perhaps an early version of Paintshop Pro. I hadn’t discovered Photoshop yet) to put Colin Powell’s head, on Jet Jaguar’s body, and called it “Colon Kapow”. Still looked worlds better than anything BSE has made.

  50. Northland10 says:

    Fyi Doc, I was getting the screen to request access, because if Spam. It was not accepting my captcha entry until I skipped the optional message box.

  51. JPotter says:

    I was exposed to FOX tonight. Greta va Sussasomething was giving free air time to a Trump Rally.

    Hilariously, he just kept rambling on about himself. Even a bit about how he generates ratings and that all the TV people care about. Very surreal that bit was. Most honest moment on FOX ever.

    They repeatedly cut to commercial and blatantly stated they would come back when he moved on to a new topic.

    Every time they came back … more rambling about self.

    Then it struck me:

    Trump is to “run for President” as Irey is to “analyze document”.

    Both make the same error.

  52. Latino writer sees continuity between birthers and debate over birthright citizenship.

    http://www.lavozcolorado.com/detail.php?id=8237

  53. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    So, right on cue, BSE is calling that horrible shooting that took place on live TV a hoax. Some of the other denizens at BR are already jumping down his throat about it. One person said it was because he’s “damaging the brand”, while others were legitimately fed up with him calling any and all tragedies hoaxes.

    If through some twist of fate, he finds himself on the receiving end of such a tragedy. Losing everyone precious to him, because of some unhinged bomber or gunman, it would be delicious irony, to have someone screaming “HOAX! HOAX!”, and I’ll be the first to admit that I’d be just fine with stooping that low for the likes of him. Hell I’d get up in his face an scream it so hard he’d be able to smell what I had for lunch that day.

  54. Dave says:

    GR has the excellent news that Andy Martin is running for President.

    Gonna be tough deciding which birther to vote for.

  55. Bonsall Obot says:

    I’m already committed to Trump. Granted, he’s no internet powerhouse, but he’s doing a great job.

  56. Lupin says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Latino writer sees continuity between birthers and debate over birthright citizenship.

    http://www.lavozcolorado.com/detail.php?id=8237

    Trump is the new messiah and Apuzzo was his prophet.

  57. Lupin says:

    It’s almost useless now ratf*cking the Gerbils for Trump; they’re like roaches running towards the motel & don’t need any more help. They turning on Cruz was a thing of beauty.

    Now I hope they turn against the GOP itself when the party elite uses dirty tricks to smother a Trump nomination. Ideally i hope he runs as an Independent Candidate.

  58. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    Lupin: Trump is the new messiah

    Will “another season of Celebrity Apprentice” count as “rising from the dead”?

  59. gorefan says:

    Anyone notice anything unusual about this Bush flyer? Hint his left hand

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM3Y_A_UYAAntL_.jpg:large

  60. Nope. Nothing unusual. In fact it reminds me of a photo of Ann Dunham I saw once.

    ROFL.

    gorefan: Anyone notice anything unusual about this Bush flyer? Hint his left hand

  61. gorefan says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Nope. Nothing unusual. In fact it reminds me of a photo of Ann Dunham I saw once.

    ROFL.

    Bush’s dad must be either Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis.

  62. Crustacean says:

    I hate myself for being such a grammar pedant (trying to cut back on my use of the word “Nazi”), but there should be a comma between the words “Why” and “Jeb”.

    gorefan: Anyone notice anything unusual about this Bush flyer? Hint his left hand

  63. And, Trump’s sincere. I truly believe he’ll address the illegal immigration problem come hell or high water.

    Bonsall Obot:
    I’m already committed to Trump. Granted, he’s no internet powerhouse, but he’s doing a great job.

  64. gorefan says:

    At the one hour mark of Where’s Obama’s Birth Certificate – the impeachment panel is clearly scared of the Fogbow. Had to laugh at that. Also a shout out to RC.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/wheresobamasbirthcertificatexcom/2015/08/28/urgent-update-about-impeachment-proceedings-from-nalc

  65. bovril says:

    I love how JB Williams in his bile and spittle inflected babbling shows his fundamental gasp of constitutional law when he starts on the Bill of Rights.

    He starts babbling how the portions of the Bill of Right have not all been held against the states and holds up the Second Amendment as one of them..

    Problem is he used the magical word “transmogrified” which he calls the  process of holding the amendments against the states. Trouble is the actual word is “Incorporated” which is a legal word with specific meaning as opposed to “transmogrified” which, well isn’t.

    Then there is the issue of the Second Amendment. As such a sh*t hot “Constitutional expert” one would expect him to know that the 2nd was incorporated against the states through the District of Columbia v Heller and McDonald v City of Chicago cases in 2008 and 2010.

    Truly these idiots are as dim as a 5 watt bulb a yard up a hogs a**

  66. Keith says:

    bovril: He starts babbling how the portions of the Bill of Right have not all been held against the states and holds up the Second Amendment as one of them..

    Its that pesky 14th amendment again.

  67. GLaB says:

    Speaking of Gone But Not Forgotten (yet), one of Larry Klayman’s rare legal successes in Klayman et al vs. Obama et al was just reversed on appeal.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/appeals-court-allows-nsa-data-collection-program-to-continue#.feYg5B7Yo8

  68. Keith says:

    I have just been cleaning out my olde Thunderbird email cache, since I haven’t used it for anything real for years and its now full of spam on the only addresses I still let it look at and I found a pointer to a forum I put a brief snarky response on way back in 2010:

    This week in military justice 21 November 2010 edition

    Boy, those were the days.

  69. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Wow first time in a long time a birther brought up Quarles Harris:
    http://www.westernfreepress.com/2015/03/05/ted-cruz-and-natural-born-citizenship-a-belated-reply-to-mario-apuzzo/?hubRefSrc=email&utm_source=lfemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=lfnotification#lf_comment=370189914

    I thought this thing was long dead? It seems he’s still recycling the old claims. Oh and it’s another birther who claims he met Obama in 1981.

  70. Joey says:

    I’m getting ready to wach the new Netflix series “Narcos” which is about Pablo Escobar. I hope Scarlett Johansson is playing Nancy Ruth Owens.

  71. Dave B. says:

    The list of names of FEC Form 2 filers is up tp to 953 names now, including these:

    http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=P60012184&tabIndex=3

    http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=P60013265&tabIndex=3

    Deez Nuts has garnered copycats Bofa Deez Nuts, Ceedeez Nuts, and Deez W. Nutz. There’s a Kim Jong Un, too, along with several birthers.

  72. Jim says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Arpaio attorneys again talking settlement. ACLU skeptical.

    Let’s see, less than a month before the next round of hearings and release of more embarrassing evidence, Arpaio is seeking a settlement and end to the hearings. When have I seen this soap opera before?

    When we last left the bidding, it was at $350,000…can I get a half mill…how about a cool million? 😀

  73. y_p_w says:

    I found the earlier article about the verifications sent by HDoH, and of course noticed that Osaka’s [[Onaka’s] signature looks to be identical without any of the typical handwritten differences.

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/

    That’s not really all that unusual since it’s obvious that a stamp is used. Heck – when my marriage license was filed (to become my marriage certificate) the county registrar’s signature line was stamped with his name in block letters. I got a verification letter for my grad school attendance once, and the signature of the school’s registrar looked like a somewhat pixelated reproduction. It did however contain an embossed seal (that I could barely make out).

    However, in the Obama verifications I did notice initials next to the signature, which ostensibly were the initials of the HDoH employees who generated the documents under the authority of the registrar. Several birther sites went into a tizzy that Onaka didn’t specifically initial them. However, the initials were “JK”, “BP”, and “ATO”. So I guess one time he personally went over it himself.

    I could have sworn this came up once here.

  74. Notorial Dissent says:

    Usual procedure in most offices of that type is that a rubber stamp or some type of device is allowed by law, usually stating that if a stamp is used a facsimile must be filed in the appropriate office. There are some jurisdictions that used an electronic or digitized signature on almost all documents at this point, just too many to manually sign. If you check, most state’s laws have provisions for just such an action. It is also usual for someone who is deputized by the actual person to do the stamping will also initial it to show that they did it under their authority. Welcome to the 21st C birfers.

  75. Official Announcement:

    There is a new editorial rule for this blog:

    15. No commenter shall demand personal information from another. Instances of this may result in redaction of the comment, deletion of the comment, or in extreme cases moderation or banning of the commenter.

  76. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Official Announcement:

    There is a new editorial rule for this blog:

    15. No commenter shall demand personal information from another. Instances of this may result in redaction of the comment, deletion of the comment, or in extreme cases moderation or banning of the commenter.

    I demand to know what your personal choice is when dining at Denny’s

  77. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    y_p_w: However, the initials were “JK”, “BP”, and “ATO”. So I guess one time he personally went over it himself.

    Imagine how birthers would react if one of the initials were “GFY”

  78. y_p_w says:

    Notorial Dissent:
    Usual procedure in most offices of that type is that a rubber stamp or some type of device is allowed by law, usually stating that if a stamp is used a facsimile must be filed in the appropriate office. There are some jurisdictions that used an electronic or digitized signature on almost all documents at this point, just too many to manually sign. If you check, most state’s laws have provisions for just such an action. It is also usual for someone who is deputized by the actual person to do the stamping will also initial it to show that they did it under their authority. Welcome to the 21st C birfers.

    I’m under the impression that Hawaii birth certificates are the rubber stamp, and that’s pretty obvious. Onaka’s signature on the verification letters look more like the digitized signature variety. I’ve gotten a variety of signatures for various vital and academic records. It appears that most California vital records have the signature placed during the printing of the information, although I suppose it can be pre-printed or stamped if office policy calls for it. I’ve got one academic transcript where the registrar’s signature is printed directly to the form and is identical on all pages (my transcript is two page). I’ve also seen a multi-color bleeding stamp. I’m not quite sure how they do that, although I’d guess it would be one of those pre-inked deals where the ink is in a reservoir that feeds ink through the rubber.

    I mentioned it before, but I found at least one birth certificate copy (city in MA) that looked to be handwritten by the registrar, right down to the signature. It was also a preprinted form on green basketweave paper.

    Someone once told me that MIT diplomas are all hand-signed. Not sure if that’s true or not, but that sounded pretty interesting. I mean – my hand would cramp up after doing it 10 times.

  79. I am the financial secretary for my church and it is my job to send out tax receipts at the end of the year. At one time I hand signed them all (around 200), but more recently I include a signature image as part of the printed report.

    Could it be easily forged? Yes, but the church’s computer records and the PDF file of all statements printed would not match.

    It reminds me a bit of a birth certificate.

    y_p_w: I mean – my hand would cramp up after doing it 10 times.

  80. That is public information:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/09/obama-kenya-tribe-human-sacrifice/

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: I demand to know what your personal choice is when dining at Denny’s

  81. New article at The American Thinker:

    An Objective Guide to Birthright Citizenship

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/an_objective_guide_to_birthright_citizenship.html

    It’s not as bad as it sounds, and I actually learned something.

  82. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    New article at The American Thinker:

    An Objective Guide to Birthright Citizenship

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/an_objective_guide_to_birthright_citizenship.html

    It’s not as bad as it sounds, and I actually learned something.

    Hmm Natelson. Mario tried using him as a source at the westernfreepress only to have it backfire as Natelson didn’t support Mario’s position.

  83. Dave B. says:

    I am shocked– SHOCKED, I say!

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Hmm Natelson.Mario tried using him as a source at the westernfreepress only to have it backfire as Natelson didn’t support Mario’s position.

  84. Rickey says:

    Keith:
    I have just been cleaning out my olde Thunderbird email cache, since I haven’t used it for anything real for years and its now full of spam on the only addresses I still let it look at and I found a pointer to a forum I put a brief snarky response on way back in 2010:

    This week in military justice 21 November 2010 edition

    Boy, those were the days.

    I participated in that thread. Col. Sullivan told Mario that his SCOTUS petition was dead on arrival and Mario refused to believe it. After Sullivan was proven to be correct, Mario never returned to the thread.

    It’s hard to believe that was nearly five years ago!

  85. J.D. Sue says:

    Rachel Maddow just announced the results of a PPP poll of Republicans, which found, among other things:

    29% of Republicans think Obama was born in the U.S.
    44% of Republicans do not think Obama was born in the U.S.
    26% of Republicans are not sure.

    Ironically, more Republicans (40%) think Ted Cruz was born in the U.S.

  86. RanTalbott says:

    J.D. Sue: Ironically, more Republicans (40%) think Ted Cruz was born in the U.S.

    Not the adverb I would’ve chosen, especially given some of the other results from that poll: I’m leaning toward “frighteningly”. It’s not so bad that people don’t know about the still-somewhat-obscure Cruz at this ridiculously-early stage of the process, but not knowing about Obama is just nuts.

    Most Republicans (54%) think Obama is a Muslim. It’s even worse (66%) among Trump supporters, 61% of whom are also quite sure he was born abroad.

    We now have one of our two major political parties dominated by people who live in a fantasy world. Whether it’s climate change, evolution, the effects of tax rates, or the nationality of the president, if reality conflicts with what they want to believe, they simply deny reality, and go with the myth.

    Someone should ask the makers of Idiocracy whether they thought there was any chance they’d see it start to become a documentary in their own lifetimes…

  87. donna says:

    Chart: Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory Ever

    Fake birth certificates, ghostwriters, teleprompters, a teenage trip to Mars, and more of the most paranoid and bizarro Obama conspiracy theories out there.

    (Scroll down for more detailed descriptions of the conspiracy theories in the diagram.)

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories

  88. RanTalbott says:

    Keith: I thought the internet was supposed to make it easy for bad ideas to be corrected, for the uneducated to ‘get better’.

    It does. It also makes it easy for people with confirmation bias problems, and an inability/unwillingness to engage in critical thinking, to reinforce their delusions. Not only by seeking out supporting misinformation, but also by huddling around e-campfires like Daily Kos and BR with fellow True Believers to build protective bubbles and grow tall tales.

    In reality it is just a high speed rail to ignorance.

    It is that, but not just that. It’s like any other powerful tool, and can be used well or poorly, for good or ill. Don’t forget that that train also stops here: although many refuse to get off and enlighten themselves, many others have benefitted from its “high speed rail” accessibility.

  89. RanTalbott says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: New article at the Phoenix New Times

    Hmmmm: I wonder whether they asked their “ex-NSA experts” about the authenticity of the “metadata-erasing manual” they presumably got from Monty…

    It’s looking more and more like they knowingly concealed the fact that they didn’t have the “universe-shattering evidence” as they continued to use the promise of it to solicit donations.

    There’s a rather unpleasant name for that…

  90. Rickey says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    New article at the Phoenix New Times:

    AS ARPAIO’S TRIAL APPROACHES, MORE MCSO SHENANIGANS POP OUT OF THE WOODWORK

    Reading it now.

    To me the most interesting part is the reference to Arpaio and his minions possibly being guilty of committing in “inchoate crime,” Even though Montgomery’s hard drives apparently contained no classified information, the MCSO and CCP people who were involved thought that they were buying classified information. It’s similar to being charged with attempted robbery even if you break into the bank vault and find that they is nothing of value in it.

  91. roadburner says:

    just when you think the comedy has reached a peak over at BR, a new peak gets seen over the rise

    mario and kerchner `schooling’ the obots on article II history….

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/09/full-audio-fantastic-discussion-on.html

    LOL! 😀

  92. Benji Franklin says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: New article at the Phoenix New Times:

    What blows my mind, is the fact that all of this precourtroom and precourtroom press attention can be directed at the general direction of the Montgomery provided SEKRET materials as they relate to Judge Snow, without some specific references emerging yet to Zoo Low’s simultaneous claim to have gotten “universe-shattering evidence” of (presumably) criminal behavior on Obama or his administration! The reporters are not yet revealing, or noting, the Birther connection, I guess because the very word connotes lunacy and non-serious reportage.

    Still, Zoo Low has enough LoW cunning to rise from the witness stand on an exuded column of his own filth, if the questioning forces him into EITHER full Birther affirmation mode or full Birther Judas-like denial!

  93. Pete says:

    NEWS FLASH!

    THE PRESIDENT HAS JUST BEEN REMOVED FROM OFFICE, AN ARREST WARRANT HAS BEEN ISSUED AND A JUDGE HAS ORDERED HIM TO JAIL!!!

    HE IS BEING CHARGED WITH DEFRAUDING THE PEOPLE!!

    THE VICE-PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SWORN IN IN HIS PLACE.

    I AM NOT KIDDING. CNN IS ALL OVER IT:

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/americas/guatemala-president-arrest-warrant/index.html

  94. RanTalbott says:

    roadburner: just when you think the comedy has reached a peak over at BR, a new peak gets seen over the rise

    And there’s another (albeit perhaps a little lower) peak today. Trump had a publicity stunt/presser around his signing of the GOP candidates’ oath of fealty. But BR decided to upload an excerpt to youtube because there was a question from the audience about the number of birfoons in the party.

    Which The Donald … ducked.

    But BR included his non-answer, in which the alleged Wharton graduate demonstrated that he doesn’t know what the labor force participation rate means.

    It’s a little bit weird, and sad, the way they keep seizing upon snippets from people who not only fail to deliver any birther results, but show off their incompetence to ever do so, just because they make some vague reference to birfoonery. It reminds me of one of my favorite Far Side cartoons.

  95. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    RanTalbott: in which the alleged Wharton graduate demonstrated that he doesn’t know what the labor force participation rate means

    All RW’s don’t know or pretend not to know to keep their ODS memes up.
    Then again, “Make America like Tanzania again” isn’t such a good claim. (Tanzania has a LFPR of almost 90%, US 63%, Germany 60%; numbers from 2013).

  96. RanTalbott says:

    Arpaio and Klayman both got legal gifts on Thursday.

    The judge approved the settlement in the federal suit, including the part that says no new spankings for arresting people for “Felonious Disagreement with Da Shurf”.

    And the DC Circuit dismissed the appeal of Arpaio’s immigration lawsuit, so Klayman gets to waste more of the time of the SCOTUS staff, and exhort the suckers to keep clicking that Paypal button “For Freedom”.

  97. Dave B. says:

    TJ McCann and Joe Montgomery are being cross with each other over at the IVN thing-that-wouldn’t-die and it’s downright hilarious. McCann:

    “1) ksdb , thsi is why you are so tremendously exasperating to converse with. You make things up without regard for the conversation, and take things down obscure rabbit holes.”
    http://ivn.us/2013/08/13/defining-natural-born-citizen/?hubRefSrc=email&utm_source=lfemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=lfnotification#lf_comment=373421943

    “ksdb repeating a chant like some devout temple priest does not make it true, and less so when you so artfully constrain it so that it might possibly have a shred of accuracy, albeit by ridiculous terms.”
    http://ivn.us/2013/08/13/defining-natural-born-citizen/#lf_comment=371015415

  98. Dave B. says:

    More fun and games over at the thing that wouldn’t die– David Farrar using General Jedi Pauly as a reference:
    http://ivn.us/2013/08/13/defining-natural-born-citizen/#lf_comment=373642084
    That’s almost as much fun as when he fell for Squeeky’s April Fools Day joke about Mario being appointed to the Ezra Pound Chair on Common Law.

  99. New article at the Phoenix New Times:

    Arpaio begs for money while his lawyers make bank in Melendres

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arpaio-begs-for-money-while-his-lawyers-make-bank-in-melendres-7624460

  100. Information for Donald Trump is on a “need to know basis.” I guess if he needs to actually know something, he’ll get someone to explain it to him.

    RanTalbott: But BR included his non-answer, in which the alleged Wharton graduate demonstrated that he doesn’t know what the labor force participation rate means.

  101. RanTalbott says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: Information for Donald Trump is on a “need to know basis.”

    Apparently not: it’s reasonable to expect presidents to rely on experts for opinions about whether the latest velocity-of-money figures are “a good sign” or a bad one, or whether a temporary tax cut is the right move to improve the economy over the long term.

    But they need to know the basics, like “most of those people who are ‘not in the workforce’ are either retired or housewives”, so their advisors can’t BS them.

    Someone who thinks the GDP went negative shouldn’t even be voting, much less running for president.

    And he does it again and again, on a variety of subjects. When they roll the credits at the end of the 2016 campaign, he’s going to be listed as “Chief Gaffer”.

    Dr. Conspiracy: Arpaio begs for money

    Personally, from the looks of it: that’s a truly pathetic appeal, that suggests referring to his “fundraising budget”, instead of his “fundraising goal”, wasn’t a mistake. Surely no professional would write anything that bad. I’ve gotten 419 spams that were more credible.

    Having taunted many a birther with the prediction that Arpaio will drop out next year, and turn his campaign fund into a retirement nest egg, it’s encouraging to see any sign that the part about his “retiring as a multi-millionaire” might turn out to be wrong.

  102. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    RanTalbott: that’s a truly pathetic appeal, that suggests referring to his “fundraising budget”, instead of his “fundraising goal”, wasn’t a mistake. Surely no professional would write anything that bad

    I also like “That’s why I pleading with you” and “Emegency Donation” (twice). The initial address as “Patriot” is the worst, not even “Dear…” or “Esteemed…”?

    Person, I must to be needing the money in short supply. Please shall be make a donation to account of mine at Nigeria National Bank Of Alabamizona in excess of the $50 (fivety dollar)“.

  103. The “need to know” comment was made in the context of various bits of confusion by Trump, for example: Trump: I’ll Know The Difference Between Hamas And Hezbollah “When It’s Appropriate” He confused the Kurds with the Quds. He didn’t know a number of middle eastern leaders, explaining: “I think by the time we get to office, they’ll all be changed,” Trump said. “They’ll be all gone.”

    RanTalbott: Apparently not: it’s reasonable to expect presidents to rely on experts for opinions about whether the latest velocity-of-money figures are “a good sign” or a bad one, or whether a temporary tax cut is the right move to improve the economy over the long term.

  104. Arthur B. says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: He confused the Kurds with the Quds.

    For me the killer line was “I will be so good at the military it will make your head spin.”

    Good at the military? WTF is that about, a video game?

    And that’s what he understands to be foreign policy proficiency?

  105. Dave B. says:

    Now I just wonder how many of the folks having such orgasms over this, uh, candidate have in the past, when it suited them, maintained that the president has to have had some military experience.

    Arthur B.: For me the killer line was “I will be so good at the military it will make your head spin.”

    Good at the military? WTF is that about, a video game?

    And that’s what he understands to be foreign policy proficiency?

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