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  1. George Orwell III January 21, 2009 at 5:16 am  (Quote) #

    Is Hawaii a state yet?

  2. Dr. Conspiracy January 21, 2009 at 7:59 am  (Quote) #

    Depends on who you ask.

  3. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 10:47 am  (Quote) #

    Berg v. Obama: SCOTUS Denies Stay Application

  4. Andrew A. Gill January 21, 2009 at 6:48 pm  (Quote) #

    Say, does anyone know why the various applications are no longer available on the SCOTUS web docket?

    Doc Orly is going nuts about it, as is her wont, but I don’t truly understand it, either.

    While I’m here, I thought I’d also forward some treason:

    For those of you that actually read it, you might recall that my last blog entry presented a cogent argument — supported by the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and by military-security rules — for why members of the military should DISOBEY any order issued by Barack Obama. And, specifically, I suggested that its guardians should REFUSE to hand over to Obama the nuclear “football”.

    Intentionally, I back-channeled that blog entry to someone that was previously
    well-placed in the military intelligence community (but, “officially”, no longer is).

    My hope was that he would help to spread the word among patriotic, law-abiding military members — who could then act as an unofficial “First Team” to slow down the erosion of our country from the White House outward.

    Instead, he apparently passed it along to military cyber-warriors (most likely
    the 83rd Network Operations Squadron out of Langley AFB, Virginia). And, apparently, they erased my blog.

    Or, y’know, the updater script broke or your CSS is messed up or you ran out of drive space or aliens are jamming it. But I think I’ll have to go with the CIA spooks are monitoring you all the time and the ex-CIA guy you thought was your friend is actually a mole, sent to check on the spy, and they totally deleted your entry. Except for when they didn’t. Because they are incompetent unless they are pretending to be your friend.

  5. Dr. Conspiracy January 21, 2009 at 7:07 pm  (Quote) #

    Her blog is back.

  6. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 7:14 pm  (Quote) #

    Whose blog is back? I must have missed something.

  7. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 7:22 pm  (Quote) #


    Yes, they have some “treason” petition on Berg’s blog too. Blocking “obots” right and left. LOL Suppose to have some Representative on Plains Radio tonight. Just scanned the stuff on Berg’s blog. Saying Biden is President, not Obama. Saying Donofrio’s/Orly’s case hurt Bergs. Blah, blah, blah.

  8. Dr. Conspiracy January 21, 2009 at 7:23 pm  (Quote) #
  9. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 7:24 pm  (Quote) #

    I didn’t know it was gone. Where did it go?

  10. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 7:48 pm  (Quote) #

    The Constitution is clear that its 35 words must be spoken exactly’

    Could someone please point me to where it says this in the Constitution?

  11. Andrew A. Gill January 21, 2009 at 7:54 pm  (Quote) #

    It’s a little confusing, but I think the idea is that Tom Kovach thinks that the CIA deleted a blog post from the front page of .

  12. Andrew A. Gill January 21, 2009 at 7:55 pm  (Quote) #

    Or . Whatever the link above that I posted was to.

  13. Tes January 21, 2009 at 8:10 pm  (Quote) #

    No, because it doesn’t exist exist. See also this SCOTUS Blog article, particularly the update at the end: “…Obama also signed a written copy of the constitutional oath after the public swearing-in.”

    As for a primary source for that statement – haven’t yet found it.

  14. Tes January 21, 2009 at 8:12 pm  (Quote) #

    Breaking: Obama makes calls, signs executive orders — and retakes oath.

    “Chief Justice John G. Roberts was ushered into the Map Room of the White House on Wednesday night to re-administer the oath of office to President Barack Obama because the original oath on Tuesday had a word out of sequence.
    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the move was made out of “an abundance of caution” in consultation with White House Counsel Greg Craig. Obama’s second swearing-in, devoid of the pomp of the initial event, took place at 7:35 p.m. in the presence of a few aides and a press pool. The chief justice was wearing a court robe. “Are you ready to take the oath?” Roberts said. “I am,” Obama said, “And we’re going to do it very slowly.”

  15. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm  (Quote) #

    Why are we even having this discussion? LOL. President Obama was sworn into office yesterday. Berg’s application was denied today. The case in Texas will be denied tomorrow. Doc Orly’s petition/applicaation will be denied Fri/Mon. The rest of these cases will also be denied.

    Why would anybody think they wouldn’t be? After all, President Obama, the DNC, RNC, Congress, Supreme Court, lower courts, media, FBI, CIA and who knows else are in on this conspiracy. Why did this bunch ever think they would/could prevail? After all, this is a really good conspiracy effort.

  16. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 8:26 pm  (Quote) #


    The Betrayal blog had a article on his “botched oath” and that statement was in there. I tried to post the article but it didn’t go through.

    They are also claiming that Obama’s thugs removed Doc Orly’s case from SCOTUS website. Who knows? Is it still there?

    Now Doc Orly/Betrayal Blog have a article title “Supreme Court’s Hottest Potatoe and are claiming this in the article:
    The New Media Journal reports
    Recent polls tell us that from 55-60 percent of the American people now believe that the question of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States has at least some merit.

    And the usual disinformation in the article. LOL

  17. Dr. Conspiracy January 21, 2009 at 8:32 pm  (Quote) #


    Presidential appointments subject to Senate confirmation (PAS) are effective on the date the President signs the commission document. However, the individual’s pay does not begin until the appointee is sworn in and signs the oath of office.

    Close as I could get.

  18. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 8:42 pm  (Quote) #

    Oh, I forgot to add all the States, especially Hawaii and the Kenyan govt. too. Have I left anybody out?

  19. TRUTH January 21, 2009 at 8:46 pm  (Quote) #

    See, I KNEW you had a little bit of sense about you Bogus, you DID catch on that Obama was sworn in yesterday. I didn’t think they could sneak that past you, you ARE a sharp one.

  20. TRUTH January 21, 2009 at 8:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Its hard to tell. I recommend you take a trip around the world and find out. Get back with us on that when you return.

  21. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 9:26 pm  (Quote) #


    If you want to “make a fight” with someone, I suggest you pick on somebody else. I’m not going to bite.

  22. Dr. Conspiracy January 21, 2009 at 9:37 pm  (Quote) #


  23. bogus info January 21, 2009 at 9:54 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    You are not “part of the conspiracy.” You are the “conspiracy buster.” (ghost buster/conspiracy buster; get it?) LOL. And a mighty fine one at that I might add!

  24. mimi January 21, 2009 at 10:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Actually, he did re-take the oath. And joked about it with a comment on how some are saying he isn’t really a citizen, so just in case… (paraphrased.)
    However, as Orly petitioned the Supreme Court Justices to recuse themselves from administering the oath due to a conflict of interest (her cases), I suppose it’s not legal anyway. 🙂

  25. mimi January 21, 2009 at 10:51 pm  (Quote) #

    I think a New Conspiracy is developing:
    “justanamericancindy4 Says:
    January 22, 2009 at 3:29 am

    written by MommaERadioRebels, January 21, 2009

    Anybody that has any replies from any Senator, Congressman, etc that you wrote to about Obama ineligibility where they wrote back and said that he was eligible and a Natural born citizen, please send them to me ASAP!!

    I need them to Archive to use with something that is coming up in the future!!! If you don’t have my personal e-mail address then e-mail them to me at it and I will get them.


    From RosettaSister’s nut house.’m-a-sugar-bowl-and-other-songs-i-sang-with-my-children/
    Those folks really scare me sometimes. And, they are all followers of Schulz. One of ’em was telling the others that wages are not income, but just part of bartering.
    And, earlier this evening, one was talking about the next door neighbor’s stash of guns and such:
    “j.b. Says:
    January 22, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Hubby’s back, guy has a grenade launcher, dummy grenades, night vision scope and “more AK’s than a Central America Armies!”

    I then reply, “Costa Rica has NO army”. (totally irrelevent, but it does enhance his point, I guess.)

    He said, “We didn’t even get to the pistols…….the whole time I was there we were looking at his (30 some odd) rifles.”’m-a-sugar-bowl-and-other-songs-i-sang-with-my-children/

  26. George Orwell III January 22, 2009 at 7:07 am  (Quote) #

    The Associated Press reporting on there-do of the oath mentions that Coolidge and Arthur also had to repeatthe oathdue to similar circumstances.

  27. bogus info January 22, 2009 at 10:50 am  (Quote) #

    Ankeny v. Daniels: Indiana Eligibility Case Update

    Update:The docket summary can be viewed hereusing the Cause number. Be aware that there are fees associated with viewing the details of the case.

  28. bogus info January 22, 2009 at 10:59 am  (Quote) #

    What is this?

    The Federal Grand Jury (5th Amendment)

  29. bogus info January 22, 2009 at 12:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Anyway, it seems that Orly has finally had a day in court and it did not go too well…

    “Thursday, January 22, 2009
    Today at the Williamson County TX Courthouse
    Yesterday Dr. Orly Taitz flew down to Texas to assist in a suit filed in Georgetown, TX in a case against the Texas Secretary of State for not verifying that Obama was elgible for POTUS.

    The case was heard this morning at the Williamson County courthouse.

    In short, Dr. Taitz just told me that we, as citizens, have no standing.

    They were only give 3 minutes to speak and that was done begrudgingly.

    The information she just told me was pretty distressing. I’m going to let her tell the story herself; but she asked me to post this.

    Check back for her full story when she is back at a computer.”

  30. Dr. Conspiracy January 22, 2009 at 1:35 pm  (Quote) #

    Arthur’s circumstance was not similar to the best of my knowledge. Arthur was sworn in by a New York judge upon the death of Garfield and repeated a ceremonial version when he returned to Washington. But this is an excellent example of a president not being sworn in at noon.

  31. Dr. Conspiracy January 22, 2009 at 1:40 pm  (Quote) #

    My reading is that without a legitimate reason, it’s illegal to access the PACER information, so I have stayed away from it.

  32. Patrick McKinnion January 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm  (Quote) #

    It’s my understanding that PACER is available to anyone who wants to access the info and pay for the charges.

  33. Dr. Conspiracy January 22, 2009 at 5:09 pm  (Quote) #

    “This is a Restricted Web Site for Official Court Business only. Unauthorized entry is prohibited and subject to prosecution under Title 18 of the U.S. Code. All activities and access attempts are logged.”

  34. bogus info January 22, 2009 at 5:16 pm  (Quote) #
  35. bogus info January 22, 2009 at 5:18 pm  (Quote) #

    You don’t have to worry about me trying to access this site. LOL

  36. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 11:33 am  (Quote) #
  37. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 11:35 am  (Quote) #

    Oh boy, they are now reposting some of Corsi’s old articles both on Doc Orly’s blog and The Betrayal blog.

  38. mimi January 23, 2009 at 12:10 pm  (Quote) #

    Yeah, I commented on this here yesterday. One of the plaintiff’s may be a geneology guy dabbling in DNA. I think another of them ran for Senate. I think another may be a lawyer.
    And the world is aghast. All you have to do is go to the docket search system and type in Bush, or Pelosi, or any high level govt. official to see how many hundreds of lawsuits are filed against them each year. Some are truly funny.
    Here’s the docket for the newest. But, I can’t see what they are claimining.
    I think this may be by the Kerchner in the suit:
    Maybe the Patterson in the suit:
    Patterson is shown as State Chairman, Constitution Party of NJ in 2001 elsewhere. Don’t know status today.
    Nelson is shown as a candidate for senate here:,+JR.%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
    I’m not sure if these are the same guys.
    Dr., you can delete this comment after reading. I know it’s too long.

  39. laughinghysterically January 23, 2009 at 2:12 pm  (Quote) #

    New political discussion forum lauched! To talk intelligently about all things political!! There is adesignated area for chatting about the “obama ineligibility” conspiracy theoriest lunatics and all of their continuing adventures in futility-land, from the Bergites to the Queen of Nitous Oxide to Ed Hale and his Bigfoot hunting!!

    Lol! Come on by and register, you will surely find yourself among good company, and likely some old friends!!

    Doc, I really hope you’ll join us, and you too bogus, and Doc, do you mind linking to us from here??
    I’d really appreciate it!

  40. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 2:43 pm  (Quote) #

    Jerome (Swiftboat) Corsi, PhD, author of Obama Nation.

  41. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 2:44 pm  (Quote) #

    It’s not too long at all. 😉

  42. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 3:12 pm  (Quote) # As of 1:30 p.m., the Court has issued no other orders on pending cases. It thus appears that the next release of orders will come next Monday.

  43. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 5:30 pm  (Quote) #

    Obama Conspiracy Theories Comments passes the 2,000 count! Woo hoo!

  44. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 6:02 pm  (Quote) #

    Updates: Lightfoot v. Bowen, Kerchner v. Obama, Ankeny v. Daniels, Gitmo in the Judiciary

  45. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 6:05 pm  (Quote) #

    Brockhausen v. Andrade: Judge: “This Court has no Jurisdiction”; Update: US Attorneys Getting Involved

  46. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 6:26 pm  (Quote) #

    Brockhausen recites the usual disinformation about Hawaiian birth certificate law.

  47. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 6:52 pm  (Quote) #

    I downloaded
    Charles F. Kerchner, Jr, Lowell T. Patterson, Darrell James LeNormand, and Donald H. Nelsen, Jr.,
    Barack Hussein Obama II, President Elect of the United States of America, President of the United States of America, and Individually; United States of America; United States Congress; United States Senate; United States House of Representatives; Richard B. Cheney, President of the Senate, Presiding Officer of Joint Session of Congress, Vice President of the United States and Individually; and Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House and Individually,

    Did you know that “on November 4, 2008, Obama defeated John McCain in the general election with 365 electoral votes to McCain’s 173”. That’s what the lawsuit says. Not quite sure why, though.

    He even trots out the ambassador tape and cites as authority WorldNetDaily. I’d take the Wikipedia over WND any day. It has the fake foreign registration in Hawaii thing.

    Oh lookie! “Obama also stated publicly that he traveled to Pakistan in the 1980s. But such travel was forbidden to American citizens at that time.” Attorney Mario Apuzzo, you better pray no court reads this or at the very least you’ll have a very bad day.

  48. bogus info January 23, 2009 at 7:13 pm  (Quote) #

    Yes, same poop, different day. LOL

    I’m not too sure about the “U.S. Attorneys” and I do not understand how Doc Orly can change what is a “civil” case into a “criminal” case. GeorgetownJD say NOT! This will be interesting to watch.

    BTW, this was posted at Berg’s blog by a Obot:

    “B) As they always do, SCOTUS updated in the early after noon, several hours ago. They only accepted one case and Orly’s was not among them. Surely, by now, you know the pattern. If a case is not accepted on Friday, it gets rejected on Monday. ”

  49. mimi January 23, 2009 at 10:58 pm  (Quote) #

    Andy Martin is now suing Obama, Gibbs , Fox News, The NYTimes, etc.
    I remember when Gibbs gave Hannity an earful about having Martin on his program. And, he’s never been back on Fox.
    I guess Martin needed a new venue.

  50. mimi January 23, 2009 at 11:05 pm  (Quote) #

    Just love this suit. Some excerpts:
    “1) Defendant Olbermann called Plaintiff a “transparent nut job” based on Rutenberg’s misinformation about Plaintiff’s “draft physical.”
    “d. Rutenberg similarly sought to portray Plaintiff as being against “Jews.” Plaintiff did indeed disparage the corrupt lawyers and judges in the bankruptcy and district courts in Connecticut, all of whom with one exception were unfortunately Jewish, but he did so based on their specific misconduct in a lawsuit.”

  51. Dr. Conspiracy January 23, 2009 at 11:55 pm  (Quote) #

    A motion he filed in a 1983 bankruptcy case called the judge “a crooked, slimy Jew who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race.”

    Martin claimed that the anti-Semitic comments were inserted into his court papers by malicious judges.

    New York Times

  52. bogus info January 24, 2009 at 1:21 pm  (Quote) #

    This was posted on Berg’s blog by one of the bloggers: The disbarment – Inquiring Minds Want to Know written by XXXXXX, January 24, 2009 I’ve been lurking here fomonths. People keep asking why she was disbared. Maybe people don’t tell becasue they are afraid of messing things up. She was criminally charged with Insurance Fraud. The code for her inactive status is for insurance fraud. The plea bargain included permanent disbarment. The deal was set in concrete when the court sanctioned the deal and explains the permanent court ordered disbarment. Things didn’t reach disciplinary complaints at the bar. And the whole deal was put under seal.

  53. Dr. Conspiracy January 24, 2009 at 5:23 pm  (Quote) #

    And the evidence?

  54. bogus info January 24, 2009 at 5:44 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    As usual, none.

  55. Dark Matter January 24, 2009 at 11:23 pm  (Quote) #

    I posted this on Anti-Puma

    ” doesn’t xxxxxx style of written look like Starr’s?”

  56. Dr. Conspiracy January 24, 2009 at 11:46 pm  (Quote) #

    Polarik signs his name that way on affidavits. Could Polarik be Linda Starr?

  57. Dr. Conspiracy January 25, 2009 at 5:08 pm  (Quote) #

    I don’t think we’ll be seeing any more of Linda Starr on

  58. bogus info January 25, 2009 at 5:27 pm  (Quote) #


  59. Dr. Conspiracy January 25, 2009 at 7:43 pm  (Quote) #

    A little bird told me.

  60. Dr. Conspiracy January 25, 2009 at 7:48 pm  (Quote) #

    So Linda over at Plains Radio, talking about a trip Barrack and Michelle took: “why is there no US passport on record for him for that year?”

    To which I ask, how do you know that? [Actually, you can logically deduce that Barrack Obama did not have a US Passport in 1990 from the fact that “he must not be president”.]

  61. bogus info January 25, 2009 at 8:11 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    I didn’t ask “who told you”, but rather “why is Linda Starr not going to be on the Obamacrimes blog anymore?” Reason why?

  62. Dr. Conspiracy January 25, 2009 at 8:27 pm  (Quote) #

    The little bird didn’t explain.

  63. Dr. Conspiracy January 25, 2009 at 8:59 pm  (Quote) #

    For an explanation of this issue, check this article on Politjab.

  64. mimi January 25, 2009 at 9:05 pm  (Quote) #

    First of all, everybody knows about berg’s “secret suit”. I mean he initially filed it without putting it “under seal”.
    So… maybe stuff like this got berg a little hot under the collar?
    But… I’m just speculating. Linda Starr has put out so much disinformation that it’s hard to keep up with her.

  65. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 7:47 am  (Quote) #

    Dr. C., Evidently that “little bird was wrong” because this is on Berg’s blog:

    “SE: FUNNY and STUPID!!! There’s many kinds of consequences. written by Linda Starr, January 26, 2009 I know about a story from back around 2001 where a friend who I knew had been through hell with a federal case. My friend was not found guilty and the entire case was put under a federal seal. Now this person was injured in a very serious fall and nearly lost their legshortly after the case ended. An Internet “friend” came to visit under the guise of coming to help my friend out. Now my friend who was injured was completely incapacitated physically and had to have help to even go to the bathroom. What this so-called “friend” was actually doing was stealing discovery documents under federal seal. After the “friend” left at the end of the week, when my friend discovered the theft and telephoned to demand the documents be returned, the thief made a threat about doiputting the stolen items on the Internet. One phone call by my friend’s attorney to the FBI had the thief’s home and business in California tossed until EVERY item was recovered. Their computers were confiscated to find out if they had made copies and/or posted them anywhere. They were charged with possession of COPIES of documents under federal seal and threatening to reveal documents on the Internet that were under federal seal. I think they were also charged with extortion and conspiracy. Somehow, I don’t think Barry is going to be very happy these stupid trolls are giving us so much extra publicity. The controversy helps us. I’m not a lawyer, so no, I don’t know what possible legal consequences might come out of Steve’s and other troll’s actions. I didn’t keep up with the thief and spouse, but the last I heard, they lost thier home and business over it. The legal bills were staggering and they were bankrupted from paying lawyers. That’s what happens when you go messing with documents under federal seal. I guess it depends on how badly the government wants to keep things sealed. I don’t think Barry wants this going. Ever heard the expression “a pot will never stop boiling if you don’t turn off the heat.” These trolls are keeping this pot going to a full rolling boil. And we have too much evidence. Our numbers went up this weekend. So thanks for helping us. They continue to do the absolute worst possible thing. They clearly do not understand about “consequences”.”

    And this:

    “Tim Baker – financial equality for lawyers
    written by Linda Starr, January 26, 2009

    Then you better dig deep in your pockets. Phil filed the first suit and he’s still got suits that are alive and well. Most of the rest have all been dismissed, but Phil kept filing suits and he’s got Barry SOb in a triangulation of the suits. These suits ae very expensive, a big chunk of donations go to maintain this website. We use a lot of space for the archives for the site and the blog. That costs money. I donate my time moderating this site and doing other little chores for Lisa & Phil. I come to the chats at times when Phil is on radio shows. ”

    “People like that fool SE think he’s doing something big putting my message to him online. He’s helping us. He is bringng attention to us and our cause. I love it. I might leave him some more messages and hope he puts those up, too. Maybe I’ll leave a really controversial message so we’ll get even more traffic here. They are helping us and too stupid to realize it. ”

    “Does anyone have a documented comparison of how much Obama has spent in defending the lawsuits vs. how much the attorneys filing the suits have collected in donations? We want to make sure the attorneys fighting for the Constitution are on equal financial footing. ”

    written by Tim Baker, January 26, 2009

    “I think a really controversial message would be good. Staying subtle and restrained does not attract the publicity needed for this cause to receive the national attention it deserves.”

  66. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 8:27 am  (Quote) #

    So much for the bird.

    The part about storage expense is total bunk. You can get web accounts like mine for under $100 bucks a year with hundred of gigabytes of storage. All Berg has would be less than a drop in the bucket for my plan.

    In the interests of full disclosure, if you were to click on the link above and through it sign up for hosting service, I would receive a few bucks. By they way, they are having an Obama presidential special sign-up deal in honor of the 44th president. You can get 4 years for $4.44 a month.

  67. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 8:43 am  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    You would think that these people would “check out” what these people saybut it doesn’t appear that they do. Isn’t that Tim Baker a Obama supporter? LOL.
    IF that is indeed Linda Starr–guess you never really know? I think it is hysterical that she pretty much admits that they have no idea how much Obama has spent on legal fees yet turn around and claim Obama has spent millions. Wouldn’t Linda Starr have a “documented comparison” of Obama/Berg expenditures? After all, she has claimed that Obama has spent “millions”–Berg too, and wouldn’t she just get that information regarding what Berg has spent from Berg? Why is she asking others for the info? Contradicts herself all the time. Would also question her claim of being “tight with Berg/Lisa” in my opinion. Guess it’s hard for herto keep up with all the misinformation she puts out. LOL.

  68. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 8:55 am  (Quote) #

    This is what the Betrayal Blog is claiming now:

    Posted on by David-Crockett

    Patriots this is going to be the end the Usurpers stay in the Whitehouse. God Bless Ed and Caren Hale and the entire staff of Plains Radio Network. More cannot be said at this time other than it even being worse for Barry Soetoro.”
    vikaryan on Restore the Constitutional Republic reports
    “Obama did not become a U.S. citizen until age 19
    1) Obama successfully achieved U.S. citizenship from his birthright nationality at birth at age 19 via the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, §349(a)[1988]. This law allows a child reaching majority to reverse naturalization forced upon him/her as a minor by parents or legal guardian.”

  69. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 11:30 am  (Quote) #

    They are reporting on the Yes To Democracy blog that Doc Orly’s case has been denied. Not on the docket yet but the orders are at the Scotus blog but I can’t open that doc because it is PDF.

  70. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 12:07 pm  (Quote) # Lightfoot v. Bowen: Application for Stay Denied; Other Case Info

    “including Mr. Stephen Pidgeon’s case,Broe v. Reed; this case was dismissed without prejudice, meaning that the Plaintiffs could file a subsequent petition if they so desired.”

    Was the Brow v. Reed dismissed without prejudice? Explain the above–Berg/Orly’sjust deniedand they were able to file subsequent petitions.

  71. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 12:11 pm  (Quote) #

    This is what was previously reported regarding that case by The Right Side of Life:

    Broe v. Reed: Case Dismissed “Without Comment”; Going to SCOTUS!

  72. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 12:21 pm  (Quote) #

    Chris Strunk FOIA: State Department Responds
    My computer will not let me open a PDF file. What does the response say?

  73. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 1:34 pm  (Quote) #

    Just one problem: Obama was born in the United States.

  74. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 1:40 pm  (Quote) #

    Dear Mr. Strunk:
    United States Department of State
    Washington, D.C. 20520
    Case Number 200806553
    This is in response to your Freedom of Information ActlPrivacy Act
    (FOIAlPA) request, dated October 16, 2008 for any and all entry and exit
    records for travel outside of the United States from 1960 through 1963 for
    Stanley Ann Dunham.
    Based upon the information contained in your communications, it appears
    that the records you seek are with the Homeland Security’s Bureau of
    Customs and Border Protection. Accordingly, you should direct your request
    Bureau of Customs and Border Protection
    Mark Hanson
    FOIA Division
    799 9th Street, NW
    Mint Annex
    Washington, DC 20229
    telephone number: (202) 325-0150
    fax number: (202) 325-0154
    For further communications with respect to this request, see our contact
    information at the bottom of this page.
    We hope we have been of service to you.
    Office of Information Programs and Services
    U.S. Department of State, SA-2
    Washington, DC 20522-8100

  75. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 1:45 pm  (Quote) #

    The application for stay addressed to The Chief Justice
    and referred to the Court is denied.

  76. mimi January 26, 2009 at 1:57 pm  (Quote) #

    Bogus, Just curious, why can’t you open pdf files?

  77. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 2:00 pm  (Quote) #


    My computer is in the shop and I am using my son’s computer. He somehow screwed it up where Adobe Reader won’t open files–who knows–he now hasa laptop. So I use his old one until mine gets out of the shop. That is why. LOL. Then we are going to take his in and get it straightened out.

  78. mimi January 26, 2009 at 2:01 pm  (Quote) #

    Bogus, why browser do you use? I have to save the pdf files before I can view them. I’m using Opera. I need to right-click on pdf link and choose “save linked content”. After it saves, I can open it. When you choose to save, another tab opens at right where you can access from. I don’t know if this info will help you or not.

  79. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 2:08 pm  (Quote) #

    Well, Doc Orly has truly lost it:

    A Natural Born Citizen…Orly?

    Urgent-need affidavits for motion to compel for the Supreme Court, Senate and Congressional Judicial committee hearings and FBI and US attorney

    I will be demanding from the Chief Justice John Roberts an immediate full investigation, as to how the information about a case of National and World importance, dealing with Mr Soetoro- Obama’s illegitimacy for Presidency, disappeared from the docket of the Supreme Court.

    There is that word “demand” again.

  80. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 4:25 pm  (Quote) #

    Uninstalling Acrobat Reader and then re-installing it might help.

  81. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 4:49 pm  (Quote) #

    Everytime I see “Natural Born Citizen…Orly?” I want to say “No, you are not a natural born citizen.”

  82. Hitandrun January 26, 2009 at 5:01 pm  (Quote) #

    What’s the skinny on this Kenmore teacher Barbara Nelson, recalling her Honolulu Punahou Schoolstudent Obama, as well as an earlier 1961conversation with then Baby Obama’s “obstetrician” Dr Rodney West? Did Dr West retire from medical practice in 1956? Is he the same retired “Rodney West” of 2969 Kalakaua Ave, Honolulu, who contributed $50 to Mr Bush’s campaign in 2004?


  83. mimi January 26, 2009 at 6:47 pm  (Quote) #

    Indeed curious. Some ideas:
    1) Barbara makes up stories.
    2) The article says Dr. West said ” Well, today, Stanley had a baby.” Doesn’t say he delivered it? Perhaps she assumed? Though, that would make less sense if she knew the doctor well?
    3) Did he give up his license and priviledges? Or, could he have, in fact delivered even if retired?
    I really couldn’t tell you. But, I don’t think it’s paramount to anything.

  84. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 7:16 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    Ed Hale, Plains Radio claims to have obtained Obama’s Indonesian Passport and BC from Interpol. Suppose to be here Fri. or next week. On another blog, the claim is that the docs are the passport and divorce decree. So, who knows? Now, I don’t know much about Interpol but doesn’t seem like they would just “hand out” these docs. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

  85. George Orwell III January 26, 2009 at 7:32 pm  (Quote) #

    MORE nuggets on Dr. West

  86. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 7:33 pm  (Quote) #

    And Interpol would have these documents because…? Are there any pictures of Ed Hale around? I need to put him in my Who’s Who detention center featured section under an article: “The Steady Drip of Lies from Ed Hale.”

  87. bogus info January 26, 2009 at 7:40 pm  (Quote) #

    At that Plains Radio website I did not see any pictures of Ed Hale. Supposedly he’s a Texas Rancher? God, another nutcase from my home State.

  88. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 9:43 pm  (Quote) #
  89. George Orwell III January 26, 2009 at 9:51 pm  (Quote) #

    Online conversion tools for Adobe PDF documents

    Give it a shot. Try HTML 3.2 before you try just text.

  90. Dr. Conspiracy January 26, 2009 at 11:01 pm  (Quote) #

    Interesting comment over at about conspiracy theorists.

  91. mimi January 26, 2009 at 11:48 pm  (Quote) #

    Alan Keyes has a new website… for Obama bashing. What a guy.
    I do not have an account so I cannot ask him why, if he professes to uphold the Constitution, does he want to repeal the 17th Amendment. (although I know the answer.) What a sham.

  92. mimi January 26, 2009 at 11:50 pm  (Quote) #

    A link to the super secret berg “under seal” (except when he initially forgot to file it that way) suit can be found here:

  93. Dr. Conspiracy January 27, 2009 at 12:17 am  (Quote) #

    Keyes, speaking almost correctly said:

    If Obama was born in the US, acquisition of citizenship by those born under US jurisdiction has generally been recognized by US courts even when both parents owe allegiance to a foreign power (the children of foreign diplomats born in US hospitals, for example.) Practically speaking, I think the arguments based on the foreign allegiance of Obama’s father stand at best on shaky ground.

    He’s right about Obama but not about the ambassador’s children. There is a myth going around that a foreign embassy is foreign territory and one can gain citizenship by being born there (same myth about military bases overseas). The ambassador’s child is not a US citizen because his family under US law and custom is not fully under our jurisdiction. It doesn’t matter whether the child is born in the embassy or a US hospital. Ambassador’s kids do not acquire US citizenship.

    I posted the following reply over there:

    So you say “Obama would be eligible no matter who his father was, except that he wasn’t born in the United States” while Donofrio and his followers say “Obama was born in Hawaii but he’s ineligible no matter where he was born because his father was a British citizen.”

    Well I think you’re both half right.

  94. mimi January 27, 2009 at 12:45 am  (Quote) #

    Dr.C., I can’t remember where the comments were about Dr. West. Where some woman named Barbara told a story. Anyway, would you please post this info for the person who asked about his retirement.
    This is a cached page of his obit. It says he practiced until 1977?,9a20604

  95. bogus info January 27, 2009 at 7:49 am  (Quote) #

    Here is a link to the Eligibility Lawsuits:

    Why they keep saying the Wrotnowski and Schneller cases are “procedurally active” is a mystery to me because both were just applications for stays–no petitions for cert filed.

    Doc Orly plans to file the Petition for cert in her case that she failed to file, application was denied yesterday. Go look at Rule 14–think Doc Orly can do this? LOL

    And of course Berg has his case in theThird Circut Court of appealsthat was denied by SCOTUS, his “sealed case” and his plans of filing a “Petition for writ of Quo Warranto.”

    Three possibles at SCOTUS: Pidgeon, Strunk and Hunter.

    And of course there is the Ed Hale claims of Obama’s passport and BC/DD? obtained from Interpol–this should keep us on the edge of our seats.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall when SCOTUS gets “the motion to compel/demand” from Doc Orly with affidavits attached. Hope she does it before she files her “Petition for a writ of cert.”

    My, my, isn’t this fun? Are we having a good time yet?

  96. mimi January 27, 2009 at 9:31 am  (Quote) #

    “Though Keyes is sometimes referred to as “Ambassador Keyes,” the title is misleading since he only served as the U.S. ambassador to the UN Economic and Social Council under Ronald Reagan’s administration, not as ambassador to the UN or as an ambassador to a country.”

  97. bogus info January 27, 2009 at 9:41 am  (Quote) #

    Thought this was rather interesting:

    Before processing a request, the Commission assesses its admissibility with regard to the requesting party’s right of access to the necessary files, and the documents supplied.

    As stated on the Access Request Form, ‘Requests for access to personal information are only admissible if they emanate from persons who may actually be the subject of such information or from the duly authorized or legal representatives of such persons’ (Article 9.6 of the Commission’s Rules of Procedure).

    Therefore, if the person submitting the request is not the person who is the subject of that request, in order to allow the Commission to examine the admissibility of a request, he/she must provide a power of attorney (original document) authorizing him/her to gain access to any information concerning that person in INTERPOL’s files. In the absence of this, the request will be inadmissible.

    To enable the Commission to process a request, if admissible, it is essential to supply, by post, a copy of an identity document for the person who is the subject of the request so that his/her identity can be accurately established. Without this document the Commission will not be able to reply to the request.

    The reasons do not necessarily have to be given for requests to simply access the Organization’s files. On the other hand, requests to delete or amend information that may be in the files must be supported: the requesting party must give all the necessary details (see ‘Additional information’ in the ‘Form for requesting access to INTERPOL’s files‘).

    NB: The Commission declared inadmissible a request from the chief executive of a company asking for information about a member of his Board of Directors, and another requesting intervention in relations between NCBs.

  98. Tes January 27, 2009 at 9:44 am  (Quote) #

    Why they keep saying the Wrotnowski and Schneller cases are “procedurally active” is a mystery to me because both were just applications for stays–no petitions for cert filed.

    They say that because the order denying the application was listed, on the Orders List, under “pending cases.” What they don’t get was that the application WAS pending – until the Court denied it.

    The docket for each case does not indicate that it is “procedurally” or otherwise active. Each docket starts with “application submitted” and ends with a full court “application denied.”

    Thus, the application is no longer pending. Wrotnowski and Donofrio (and, I believe Orly, per one of her posts) all filed applications “in lieu of writs” (i.e., instead of writs). Therefore, I don’t think they can come back for another bite at the apple.

  99. Tes January 27, 2009 at 9:48 am  (Quote) #

    Re: Doc Orly plans to file the Petition for cert in her case that she failed to file, application was denied yesterday. Go look at Rule 14–think Doc Orly can do this?

    Well, given her past filings, which included dozens of nonsentences, runon sentences, misspellings, and other non-grammatical text, as well as her tendancy to include paragraphs (term used loosly) and paragraphs of irrelevant info, I think that Supreme Court Rule 14, particularly 14(4) will be quite a challenge:
    “4. The failure of a petitioner to present with accuracy, brevity, and clarity whatever is essential to ready and adequate understanding of the points requiring consideration is sufficient reason for the Court to deny a petition.”

  100. bogus info January 27, 2009 at 10:24 am  (Quote) #


    Yea, LOL, that was my opinion too. Unless she gets some help. Interesting comment by one of her bloggers yesterday:

    In my jurisdiction, my “legal name” is the name I use and by which people know me. Any oath I take using this name sufficiently identifies me so as to hold me legally accountable for representatiions made therein. Has anyone checked to determine the corresponding law in D.C.?”

    Sometimes, “common sense” is not that common; you have to do the research. (I cannot do any more of your legal research for you; you never give me the credit.)”

    “Orly stated, “The swearing of Mr. Obama is null and void due to the fact that he was sworn in on a name that is not legally his name…”

    According to your legal research, is she right?”

    And here is another interesting comment from one of Doc Orly’s bloggers:

    Why do you need affidavits? What would you have us declare in writing under oath? I don’t think any of us have any evidence to declare.
    I also noted that you had filed an application with SCOTUS, there was no petition. Is that what you are filing now with a writ?
    I also found out that the docket was being updated and many cases were temporarily off the docket for a short period of time. They were inputted after a brief amount of time. so rest easy on that.
    As for your concerns about deletions on Wiki. That is the sort of site it is. That is why it is not a reliabe source for reserch.
    I noticed that you responded to an email about Ed Hale. I am sorry to inform you that everything that was said is absolutely true. He also announced that he paid you 10,000 to be on his show the last time you were a guest, and that you had requested that amount before you would be a guest. Also, on various occassions he did request funds and in consideration for those funds he promised to supply various specific documents. He also stated that if he did not supply those documets that he would “give the money back.” Individuals have stated that when they requested their money back, he called them obots and banned them from his site. I did not give him any money. However, there is a huge credability issue. As it is we are seen as having little or no credability, thanks to the mainstream media, we all wear tin foil hats. Perhaps, there is another program, you could utilize. I don’t know what or if they pay their guests. But continued association with Mr. Hale is not conducive to credability. I anticipate that sooner than later this matter with Ed Hale will be litigated. He cannot continue to do as he is doing. Last night he stated that he has Obamas Indonesian passport, that it is in the states in a safe place and on its way to him, and that the Dept of Justice procured it for him. Think about that one.

    This Constitutional crises is not a joke or an opportunity for individuals to obtain higher ratings, more listeners, or take money from hard working patriots on false pretenses.
    Your continued affiliation with Ed Hale is your decision. However, keep in mind that most individuals believe that “birds of a feather flock together.”

  101. Dr. Conspiracy January 27, 2009 at 11:20 am  (Quote) #

    I think it’s a valid point that it’s no better to characterize Orly through Ed Hale, than to characterize Obama through Bill Ayers. Guilt by association is a bad thing.

    On the other hand, Orly is a flake as evidenced by her own writing. No need to go further.

  102. Dr. Conspiracy January 27, 2009 at 11:27 am  (Quote) #

    I filed my own FOIA request this morning. Anyone know how long the Department of State backlog is?

    I actually believe I will get something from this request, but I don’t know if it will be useful.

  103. Dr. Conspiracy January 27, 2009 at 11:29 am  (Quote) #

    You can use a Google account or OpenID (version 1 unfortunately) to sign on.

  104. bogus info January 27, 2009 at 11:34 am  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    That was not “my comment”. And I agree. The point I was trying to make is that this bunch is “turning on each other.” Linda Starr/Doc Orly, Hale/Berg, Keyes/Kreep/Doc Orly.

    And the comment by the blogger may or may not be factual. Who knows?

  105. bogus info January 27, 2009 at 1:59 pm  (Quote) #

    More on Doc Orly’s subpoenas in her “Executive Orders” lawsuit:
    Tuesday, January 27, 2009 Proof of Service To US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and FBI Chicago This was a subpoena for “records to be produced” are described as follows: “Per Executive Order from January 16, 2009, any and all documents relating to “fitness and determination” in regards to level of character and conduct necessary to perform work for or on behlf of a Federal Agency….continued with “Attachment 3”

  106. Dr. Conspiracy January 27, 2009 at 3:47 pm  (Quote) #

    The entire lawsuit is a publicity stunt.

  107. bogus info January 28, 2009 at 2:45 pm  (Quote) # Hunter v. Obama: TX Case Dismissed on Failure of Claim, Jurisdiction

  108. bogus info January 28, 2009 at 3:22 pm  (Quote) #
  109. Hitandrun January 28, 2009 at 3:35 pm  (Quote) #

    It’s not the foreign embassy that’s foreign territory but rather the ambassador — hence the fiction of extraterritoriality.


  110. mimi January 28, 2009 at 3:41 pm  (Quote) #

    Someone over at plains radio took orly’s request to heart. Found an article saying …”Wajar when friends in Jakarta do not know Barack Obama. They know more Barry. While entry to Francis of Assisi elementary school in Menteng Dalam, South Jakarta, Barack listed as’ Barry Soetoro ‘.”

    Not that I think it makes any difference at all. Still… it’s giving ’em something to chew on.

    here’s the plains radio chat room front door:

    The thread to which the article is mentioned:

    I didn’t go to the article source link, but it’s listed in the thread as:

    but, you gotta go to google translate to read it… unless you can read indonesian.

  111. Dr. Conspiracy January 28, 2009 at 3:44 pm  (Quote) #

    But of course this is misinformation. If you follow the Occidental link, what you will find is that the President went by the nickname “Barry” and then dropped it at Occidental, like President James Earl Carter went by Jimmy on the ballot. There’s nothing about Soetoro in that article and hence the essential lie of the Orly article.

    If she had said :” Proof Obama went by ‘Barry’ at Occidental,” then it would be true and “so what?”

    But don’t you think “Barry” is a very foreign, Muslim sounding name?

  112. Dr. Conspiracy January 28, 2009 at 3:55 pm  (Quote) #

    They rediscover old news from time to time. For example the Sun Yat-Sen Hawaiian Birth Certificate made the rounds again starting about January 9 and picked up at The Betrayal last weekend, even though it was thoroughly discussed at last November.

  113. bogus info January 28, 2009 at 4:35 pm  (Quote) #

    Dr. C.,

    Did you read the comments? There was one on there Doc Orly’s blogger’s didn’t like very much. LOL

    As I recall, Obama has never denied using the name Barry–my point about this article is that it keeps trying to bring in a “Indonesian passport.” Now, why on earth would Barry need a “Indonesian passport” to get from Hawaii to Occidental College in California?

    That is why they are trying so hard to say Obama used Soetoro so they can allege Obama had a “Indonesian passport.” Thus, a citizen of Indonesia.

  114. mimi January 28, 2009 at 4:41 pm  (Quote) #

    Doc, Please delete my comment. Cuz, I don’t know what the big deal is. After reading it, it’s clear they say he used “Barry” and not “Barack”. Who cares? Also, here is an article where a high school classmate shows the yearbook from 1979. She said they knew him as “Barry Obama”. If you click through to the photo gallery, lots of photos showing he used Obama.

  115. Dr. Conspiracy January 28, 2009 at 5:07 pm  (Quote) #

    It’s not the high school but the college that’s key to their argument, claiming that Obama used some kind of foreign student program to his advantage, hence digging out the imaginary Indonesian passport to prove he was an Indonesian and get some special loan.

  116. mimi January 28, 2009 at 6:57 pm  (Quote) #

    video of interview at Occidential. At about 6:45 into the clip, they talk about his name. He went by “Barry Obama”, and also “Barack Obama”.
    Also of note was at the 4:00 mark where he talks about an Anti-Apartheid rally that Obama spoke at. Keyes was against economic sanctions against South Africa.
    The following text is from the HuffPo, where I got the video link from:
    “Way back when, Moore asked him, “What kind of name is Barry Obama? For a brother, you know, it’s very unusual.” Obama told Moore about his parents and how his real name was Barack. As it turns out, Moore had recently been to Kenya, specifically, the village where Obama’s father came from. “I told him, Barack is a strong name…you should rock Barack.”
    video link:

  117. mimi January 28, 2009 at 7:18 pm  (Quote) #

    “Wahid Hamid, a good friend at Oxy who attended Obama’s wedding years later, says that even before he became Barack, most friends simply called him “Obama.”

  118. Bob March 13, 2009 at 11:49 am  (Quote) #

    The Russians are coming!
    The Russians are coming!

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