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A view from the other side

By on May 16, 2009 in Lounge
John McCain

John McCain

Reading over some new material on citizenship from early in our country’s history, I was suddenly struck by the thought: John McCain probably isn’t a natural born citizen of the United States. If we were talking about President McCain today instead Obama, how would the story be different?

The historical fact is that McCain was nominated by the Republican Party to run for president, and that he was on the ballot in all 50 states. A lawsuit was filed, Hollander v. McCain, that challenged his eligibility, a lawsuit that was dismissed. We can reasonably presume that the lawsuits against Obama, had they been  filed against McCain would have been similarly dismissed for the same reasons, reasons that are not tied to the truth or falsehood of his eligibility.

McCain’s (and Obama’s) eligibility was not a significant factor in the election. Given that the Senate had already unanimously declared John McCain a natural born citizen in  Senate Resolution  511, it hardly seems credible that any Senator would have objected to the certification of his election and an objection must be raised by one Senator and one House member before an objection is recognized. There were articles written by law professors challenging McCain’s eligibility, but I don’t see  a mechanism by which the process would have run any differently than it did. Continue Reading →

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James Madison on Birth and Allegiance

By on May 15, 2009 in Citizenship
James Madison

James Madison

James Madison of Virginia, framer of the Constitution, member of Congress and 4th President of the United States is often called “The Father of the Constitution”. The Federalist Papers, co-authored by Madison, was influential in turning the tide of popular opinion in favor of the ratification of the Constitution.

In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, Madison said:

It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.

Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856 From Gales and Seatons’ Annals of Congress; from Their Register of Debates; and from the Official Reported Debates, by John C. Rives By United States. Congress, Thomas Hart Benton

Thanks to contributor Ballantine for the citation.

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Treatise on Citizenship

By on May 9, 2009 in Research Notes

In my researches, I have come across a major work:

Citizenship of the United States, Expatriation, and Protection Abroad Letter from the Secretary of State, Submitting Report … By United States Dept. of State, James Brown Scott, David Jayne Hill, Gaillard Hunt Citizenship of the United States, Expatriation, and Protection Abroad Letter from the Secretary of State, Submitting Report … December 20 1906 Referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs and ordered to be printed. By United States Dept. of State, James Brown Scott, David Jayne Hill, Gaillard Hunt

Over 500 pages. Enjoy! I know I will.

Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for Obama eligibility deniers.

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Government interest in this web site?

By on May 7, 2009 in Lounge

I frankly do not know how to interpret the following result showing where this site’s visitors come from. Note who is number 1, ahead of the major private Internet service providers. Note also the government of British Columbia farther down.

I am assuming that the larger number of bytes for other providers refers to direct links to large PDF copies court documents here from other sites. A request is access of any file, including a HTML page, a picture or a document. Continue Reading →

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Obot-proof web site

By on May 7, 2009 in Lounge, The Blogs

It was a slow news day on the Obama conspiracy front, but Repubx.com is always good for something noteworthy (I think humor is noteworthy). I was greeted by a flashing banner:

This site implements the Obot-proof guidelines for Blogsphere v1.5

Don’t ask me what that means.

But what I really wanted to comment on was this headline:

Tracking Congress: HR 985 – Free Flow of Information Act submitted by Democrat to further protect Obama’s documents

Rather than letting the reader read and understand the bill’s language, it is excerpted and INTERPRETED for them in long paragraphs beginning “in other words”. Of course, no link is provided to the actual legislation (for reasons that will be come obvious shortly). We at Obama Conspiracy Theories think our readers are smart intelligent folks who deserve a link to check things out for themselves. So you go read it before I start poisoning your mind with what follows. Continue Reading →

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Dr. Conspiracy challenged by MommaE

By on May 6, 2009 in Dr. C. Comments, Who’s Who

I went over to BlogRadio.com to see the Chalice show; Phil Berg, Lisa Liberi and MommaE were on talking about their lawsuit against Orly. I joined the chat room. I said something against the nObama grain and you’d have thought that I was Frankenstein’s monster and they were the villagers. BAN THE OBOT!

It was an incredible experience to be beset by so many people, throwing out so much fake information, and claiming they had proved me wrong with little more than “you’re an Obot”. They were sure my web site was full of false statements without so much as every being here! I kept asking over and over, “why do you think that” (Obama was adopted by Soetoro, Indonesia was a police state so Obama had to be adopted, only Indonesian citizens could attend school, etc.) None of them had a clue for a source on what they so fervently believed–except MommaE.

She joined the chat room for a minute after the live broadcast was over. She had a source. She said Obama admitted to being adopted by Lolo Soetoro on page 26 of his book, Dreams from My Father. So I looked it up; I have a copy of the book here. Nothing about adoption, and I said so. Oh, she said, it was in the FIRST edition of the book, which “is impossibly expensive to get”.

Well, I will say that page 26 in my copy is just a couple of pages before Chapter 2 starts, the chapter on Indonesia. Not knowing what to look for, I’m not going to try to find what I didn’t see the first time I read it. My guess is that Obama calls Soetoro his “stepfather” at some point, which, of course, doesn’t imply adoption.

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